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Describes erasing a detail showing Hamas fighters dressed as civilians after a threat, and notes editor overruled a note about Hamas censorship.
Asmongold breaks down a controversial California fraud claim, weighs treason vs. sedition in media, and riffs on birthright citizenship and national security with guest Chris Rufo.
Summary
Asmongold presents a provocative segment centered on California’s alleged fraud crisis, citing a claim that fraud losses under Governor Newsom reach $180–$150 billion and asking hard questions about state oversight. The discussion pivots to media integrity, with Ruptures in reporting and Hamas-related censorship in Gaza framed as a warning about how power can shape narratives. The conversation then veers into immigration policy, birthright citizenship, and security concerns after a pair of US-born individuals were involved in a suspected bombing plot, prompting heated opinions about who belongs here and how to enforce the law. Throughout, Asmongold challenges viewers to consider the incentives behind public programs, using examples from medical fraud, unemployment payments, and refugee assistance to illustrate how systems can be exploited. The tone oscillates between combative advocacy and investigative curiosity, naming real institutions (Harvard, HHS, Lexus Nexus) and public figures (Chris Rufo) while pressing for stronger enforcement against fraudsters and propaganda. The segment closes with a practical nod to tightening oversight and choke points in financial systems, and a call for accountability at the top of government.
Key Takeaways
- California’s fraud discussion centers on a claimed $180 billion loss under Newsom, with speakers comparing it to the GDP of many countries to underscore scale.
- Chris Rufo argues that California’s medical fraud and unemployment programs are systemic vulnerabilities, citing estimates up to $50 billion annually from HHS and other sources.
- Audience members debate the line between treason and sedition in media, suggesting reporters or outlets may be amplifying Hamas or other extremist narratives.
- Birthright citizenship is criticized as a security risk by some commentators, who advocate swift policy changes or more aggressive enforcement.
- The discussion emphasizes practical enforcement ideas, such as tighter checks for money transfers from public assistance recipients and enhanced fraud oversight by Treasury and IRS units.
- Rufo and Asmongold suggest that fraud funding can indirectly support protests and political movements, framing it as a deliberate design rather than random crime.
Who Is This For?
Essential viewing for viewers interested in political commentary, media ethics, and policy reform—especially those who follow Asmongold’s takes on governance, immigration, and public fraud. It’s a wake-up call for skeptics who want concrete examples of how policy design can enable abuse and what to demand from leaders.
Notable Quotes
"Gavin Newsom is definitely becoming associated with the word fraud, but it's not for fighting it, it's for enabling it."
—Rufo-style critique of the governor’s handling of fraud claims.
"The biggest mistake in this entire controversy is believing that it wasn't intentional. This entire dysfunction is by design."
—Assertion that fraud and public program failures are systemic and purposeful.
"Birthright citizenship is a threat to our national security."
—Viewer-facing stance on immigration policy and citizenship rules.
"If you steal a billion dollars, you need to be up on your head on a block. That's the ethical decision."
—Extremes of punishment proposed for fraud and corruption.
"There are no western reporters in Gaza. The press has been essentially an amplifier for one of the most poisonous ideologies on earth."
—Claim about media coverage and Hamas propaganda.
Questions This Video Answers
- How credible are California fraud estimates like $180 billion and who cites them?
- What is the difference between treason and sedition in journalism and law?
- How could birthright citizenship affect national security and immigration policy?
- What reforms could realistically reduce medical and unemployment fraud in California?
- Why do some commentators claim the media amplifies propaganda from extremist groups?
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Full Transcript
Here, listen to this. AP, as far as I know, I was the first staffer to erase information from the story because we were threatened by Hamas, which happened at the very end of of 2008. We had a great reporter in Gaza, a Palestinian, who had always been um really an excellent reporter. We had a detail in a story. The detail was a crucial one. It was that Hamas fighters were dressed as civilians and were being counted as civilians in the death toll. Wow. Big surprise, huh? Real shocker. An important thing to know, um, that went out in an AP story.
The reporter called me a few hours later. It was clear that someone had spoken to him and he told me I was on the desk in Jerusalem. So, I was kind of writing the story from the main bureau in Jerusalem and he said, "Mate, you have to take that detail out of the story." And it was clear that someone had threatened him. I took the detail out of the story. I suggested to to our editors that we note in an editor's note that we were now complying with Hamas censorship. I was overruled. And from that point, that is crazy that he was overruled.
Like I understand why you would change it to not put one of your reporters in danger. I would say that that's it's probably the ethical thing to do, but to not state that is crazy. point in time, the AP, like all of its sister organizations, collaborates with Hamas censorship in Gaza. What does that mean? You'll see a lot of dead civilians and you won't see dead militants. You won't have a clear idea of what Hamas military strategy is. And and this is the kicker, the center of the coverage will be a number, a casualty number that is provided to the press by something called the Gaza Health Ministry, which is Hamas.
And we've been doing that since 2008. So all of the information that people are getting out of this is from Hamas. Is this surprising? Well, it's good to have like I mean everybody knew this was happening, right? We all knew this was happening, but it's one thing to know it's happening and it's another thing to have it confirmed by a person that worked there. And it's a way of basically settling the story before you get into any other information because when you put, you know, when you say 50,000 50 Palestinians were killed and one Israeli on a given day, you know, it doesn't matter what else you say, the numbers kind of tell their own story.
And it's a way of kind of settling the story with something that sounds like a concrete statistic. And the statistic is being, you know, given to us by one of the combatant sides, but because the reporters sympathize with that side, they're happy to they're happy to play along. So since 2008, certainly since 2014 when we had another serious war in Gaza, the press has not been covering in Gaza. The press has been essentially an amplifier for one of the most poisonous ideologies on earth. Hamas has figured out how to make the press amplify its messaging rather than covering Hamas.
There are no I think that's exactly what they're doing. By the way, that's a this I think he's completely right. No western reporters in Gaza. All of the reporters I think by the way the fact that we don't go after these journalists and these press people that are openly publishing propaganda for terrorists and charge them for treason. I think it's a huge mistake. I think it's a mistake that we didn't do that in Vietnam. I think all the people that were pushing positive stuff about the Vietkong and then pushing and like pushing narratives and we should have charged them for treason after that.
are Palestinians and those people fall into three categories. Some of them identify with Hamas. Some of them are intimidated by Hamas and won't cross Hamas, which makes a lot of sense. I wouldn't want to cross Hamas either. And the third category is people who actually belong to Hamas. Ah, there you go. That's where the information from Gaza is coming from. And if you're credulous, then of course you're going to get a story that makes Israel look pretty bad. That's insane. So they're just out there. So AP is basically, at least according to him, uh, publishing literal Hamas propaganda.
You mean sedition? So sedition is going against your country. Treason is siding with another organization against your country. That's at least what my understanding of the difference between the two things are. So it would be treason because this is an oppositional force. Does that make sense? And not surprised, unfortunately. Yeah. Is the Flattened City fake? Well, I mean, why do you think that they would need to reframe the conversation in a way that makes it look like they don't have combatants there? It's so they can make it look like they're only killing innocent people, but they're not.
A lot of these people are Hamas, and it seems like that's the case. I mean, and I think that's probably true, too. It is. And uh I bet it's probably it will probably just continue to get worse until we get somebody in charge that's willing to do that. Right. Treason is when you give aid or comfort to the enemy. I mean, would you consider it would you consider running intentionally running propaganda for the enemy as giving aid to the enemy? I would. I absolutely would. And I don't know who wouldn't. I think anybody would. So, I hope that that's what happens.
I I I want to charge these people for treason. I do. I want to charge him for treason and uh you know capital punishment the whole thing right and uh if it's found out that that's actually the case right I mean I wouldn't obviously you know like do it without that reason but yeah um in general let me go and look at these other ones too cuz there's been a whole lot more of these by the way so Red Lobster to bring back endless shrimp that brought it to bankruptcy entire customer base black people offers endless shrimp promotion Black steal all his shrimp.
Is that true? It causes your company to go bankrupt. How do you black sea shrimp? There's no way, right? No, bro. Like, do I need to go to do I need to go to Red Lobster? I've never been to Red Lobster. The circle. Yeah, bro. It just will never end. Oh my [ __ ] god. And uh let me go I'll look at some of these other uh other posts here that I haven't really gotten around to yet. But uh some of this other [ __ ] is just so [ __ ] ridiculous. Oh, here it is. Let me go and find this here.
No, that's Oh, here we go. Manhattan Institute senior fellow Chris Rufo has been investigating widespread fraud in California. In a new report, he found that fraud losses during the Newsome administration totaled at least $180 billion. Let's do a little bit of math just real quick. I want you guys to understand what that means. This is this is really it's really substantial. There are 59 countries with a nominal GDP over 180 billion. So that means that a hundred because it's country the world is over 200 countries over the amount of fraud in California is greater than the GDP of the majority of countries in the world.
That's right. That's where we're at. You understand? Listen to it again. California Governor Newsome responded to that report saying it relies on quote guesses. Newsome says California has been a leader on com. It's only 150 billion. Okay. Combating fraud. It's only 150. joins us now. Chris, what's your response to news Newsome's response? Yeah. Well, you know, Gavin Newsome is definitely becoming associated with with the word fraud, but it's not for fighting it, it's for enabling it. And look, even under the most conservative estimates, experts from Harvard, from the Department of Health and Human Services, from Lexus Nexus Fraud Division have told us that the fraud in California is unprecedented.
It represents the largest financial crime in American history. And scammers have been stealing billions of dollars per year. Some estimates say as high as 50 or 60 billion a year from the state of California. Keep this in mind whenever they tell you that we can't pay for child care for Americans. Keep this in mind whenever they tell you that teachers have to earn $50,000 a year. Keep this in mind whenever they tell you that the real problem is some fat girl that buys food stamps uh you know funions on food stamps. That's not the real problem.
The real problem is the billions of dollars that is going out the door to fraud so we can finance an entire underclass of nonwestern migrants that shouldn't even be in the [ __ ] country and so they can give each other kickbacks and import the rest of their country or sorry the rest of the uh their family from the [ __ ] hole country that they came from. That's exactly the reason federal taxpayers who actually send money to the state. Uh and so look, this reputation is catching up with the governor, he's going to try to run away from it, but the facts are not on his side.
So what's the most egregious example of fraud that you found? Yes. The answer to that should just be yes. Sure. Well, uh, really medical is the, you know, 100 pound fraud, uh, within the system. And that's the medical is, uh, the California medical. I mean, it's obvious. And HHS officials told me that they estimate that the state of California is now losing up to $50 billion a year to fraud. And what I've noticed in the reporting is that it seems 50 billion $50 billion dollar a year. Oh my god. Like every criminal enterprise from around the world has looked at California as a vulnerability.
They're seizing. our in our reporting, we show that neo-Nazi prison gangs, uh, Romanian fraud scammers, death row inmates, uh, and foreign fraud gangs have all been ripping off the state of California to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars. Um, and we're just looking at the tip of the iceberg. Look at this. It's insane. You know, the buck stops with the governor clearly, but um, how many people are dropping the ball on this? cuz if it's that easy to steal money, there's they're they're putting the ball down. They're doing this on purpose because they're making money off of it.
The biggest mistake in this entire controversy is believing that it wasn't intentional. This entire dysfunction is by design. They've create they've created this dysfunction so they can fund all of their different [ __ ] Like I think this is what my opinion is. I don't have any basis for this, or at least I have a minor amount of basis for this, is that I think that that's where a lot of the funding for these different protests and these different events comes from. I think that it's redirected fraud money that's gone through three or four different launder uh like basically laundering attempts that now it's money that's being used for these protests and these events.
I think that's what's happening. And so what they're doing is they're effectively funding their own political ideology by indirectly enabling fraud. That's what they're doing. And it's happening on purpose. Got to be a lot of failures along the chain. Yeah. Well, what's happened is that essentially California is operating many of its public programs in essence on the honor system. There's very little oversight during the pand. It's again that is it is totally by design. They are allowing this to happen because they want it to fund these migrants, they want to overrun the country with these people and they know that if they create these systems that don't have checks that these people will take advantage of the systems because they again uh educate them in how to do that and then they're taking advantage of these systems.
they're paying into the systems and then they vote to continue the systems when the California was distributing tens of billions of dollars in unemployment insurance. There were only two state employees in charge of guarding against fraud for the entire system and even worse some of those those employees that were in charge of guarding various programs were committing fraud themselves. We've seen this. Wow. Wow. Who could have guessed? Through criminal indictments and it goes all the way to the top. It's outrageous. If there are not, look, I think we need to solve this pro. I think his problem needs to be solved and it needs to be solved severely.
That's what I think. I think this is crazy. This is insane that we put up with this. The fact that we let this happen. And the thing is that here's the worst part about it. If these people get off with a slap on the wrist, that is the best advertisement for more people doing it again. Uh, and that's a good place to leave it. Outrageous indeed. Chris Rufo, thank you so much for for bringing this report to us. We do appreciate it very much. Insane, crazy, ridiculous, totally unheard of. Like, I don't even know what to say.
Uh, pen you for being vague. I mean, I would charge a lot of the people for like I mean, I I'd put them up on charges for capital punishment. I would if you steal a billion dollars, you need to be up on you you need to have your head on a block. That's what I think. That's actually that's what my that's what my opinion is. Like that's a billion dollars and that should be for politicians. It should be for scammers. It should be for uh you know fake information. Like even a million. Well, I'm just saying like I mean a billion's the easy one, right?
Like that's what should happen. like that that that that is the that is the ethical decision to make. That is the correct moral decision to make. So what is this here? Parents of US-born siblings uh in McDill bomb plot evaded by deportation for decades. So what is this? Uh not subject to any foreign power is pretty straightforward. Oh, this is some other Okay, this is something else. So, what happened here? Just breaking moments ago, the FBI indicting a brother and sister in connection with the placement of an explosive device at Mcdell Air Force Base in Florida.
The FBI says Alan Zang, who is believed to have planted the device, is currently in China. Device did not detonate. Uh, but minutes after the device was planted, a 911 call reported uh that a bomb had been placed on the base. When that phone call came in, no location for that bomb was in fact uh given in that 911 call. The device was found on the base six days later. Thankfully, no one was hurt. FBI Tampa also arresting the suspect's sister and Mary Zang, who is charged with accessory after the fact, after the fact, and tampering with evidence.
No motive was given, but McDell Air Force Base is the headquarters of US Central Command. That is insane. Two birth and look at this. They were both birthright citizens born to illegal immigrant parents from China tried to bomb an Air Force base in American soil. Whoever they were subject to the jurisdiction thereof wasn't the United States of America. Two Chinese anchor babies tried to bomb a United States Air Force base. Again, the the idea that people should put up with this [ __ ] birthright citizenship is ridiculous, man. It is crazy. After all that time, why? Who cares why?
They should have never been citizens in the first place. It was a mistake. And and this is the type of stuff that I was talking about. This problem would not exist if you didn't give them that opportunity. They should have never had that right. They should have never had birthright citizenship in the first place. And to the extent that they do, you will have problems like this. And that's it. What's going to keep happening? Nothing. I know. It's so [ __ ] annoying. The fruits are coming to mutation. Yeah. And and it's it's going to keep getting worse, too, until people realize it.
And uh was there ever a Chinese terrorist before? Well, I don't know. It It's not about like where they're coming from. Like I don't care if they're Chinese, they're from Lebanon, they're from Britain. Uh at the end of the day, they don't need to be here, right? They're not supposed to be here and the fact that their parents are coming over and we'll probably figure out more about this in the future, but uh Chinese Americans simply exploiting an IED there. The US has uniquely insane immigration policies for quite some time. Yeah. I mean, again, they need to just start deporting these people and just doing it.
Like, I don't know why it's not happening. It's It's very very frustrating. And uh don't include Lebanon in that. We don't do that. Well, I mean, to be fair, you guys actually did. Well, I mean, listen, man. Listen. I I know a lot of people from Lebanon. They're great people, but you guys did have that one dude crash out. You did. You had that one guy crash out and then he shot himself. Remember that? That was a bad one. Like that guy. And hey, hey, we took care of him for you. We took care of him.
You're welcome, by the way. But like Jesus, actually, no, he took care of himself. That's right. Blew. He shot himself. So, yeah. No, you guys you guys have your own problems over there, too. And like I'm sure we have our problems as well. We have a lot of them. But like you know it's not anybody's specific fault, right? That's what my point is, right? It's not about the country. It's the fact that they don't need to be here. Why do we have so many Chinese in our country? I mean cover is a lot of Chinese in general, right?
So like on average there's going to be more of them and uh what is this power is pretty straight then lawful per permanent residents all Oh Jesus Christ. It's more of that [ __ ] I want to see if there's any more of this information out there or not. According to Judge Kanji, uh, bombing a US military base makes these people American citizens. It is so ridiculous. Birthright citizenship is a threat to our national security. Well, then why are we waiting for the Supreme Court to tell us if it's okay or not? Shouldn't you just remove it and find the people that are taking advantage of it and get rid of it and then order people not to like just simply not acknowledge it anymore?
Like, I mean, that's what they need to do. Like I mean if the Supreme Court doesn't uh doesn't strike down birthright citizenship, I think Trump should just ignore them. I do because what happens when you have people that have controlled and they've taken over the enforcement uh the enforcement mechanisms? What do you do? Yeah, I think Trump should totally just ignore them and uh just say [ __ ] it, man. Uh why are the politicians not in a goule? Well, I don't know. There are tons of Chinese run brothel and massage parlors in SoCal. Don't ask me how I know.
Well, listen, man. I don't think anybody has a problem with it happening very low-key. It's a few massage parlors and maybe they do something else. Nobody really cares about that. It's whenever it's happening at an industrial scale is the problem. That's the real issue. I mean, you're always going to have a little bit of things that fly under the radar. It's not a big deal, but this is happening on a much much larger level. And brother Sher turns constitution to a suicide pact for the country. I like to hear that. That's true. And these are the people that uh that I arrested the parents of two su US-born citizens.
Oh my [ __ ] god. Well, there it is. Two Chinese anchor babies who wage war on behalf of China are just as American as George Washington. The Constitution says so. Oh my [ __ ] god. These people are ridiculous. Yeah, I don't know what the hell this is. Actually, people getting handles on these parlors. Maybe Nick Shirley can investigate. I don't think I I don't want to have Nick Shirley investigate that. I think that seems like it's fine. But there is Yeah. And then here's another one. The scale of fraud reporting is staggering. California is losing 50 billion a year just to medical fraud.
That is more than the budgets for 29 states. That's all the money that's being funneled away. No. Here we go. Take a look at this. Right. So, we're lowering that to 3,000. Oh, good. And we're also targeting the two counties here. And we're going to do enhanced surveillance. And from now on, anyone who wires money out from one of these money service businesses has to check a box saying whether they are on public assistance. And if you are on public assistance, we are going to start pushing that you cannot wire money out of the country.
Oh gosh. Well, and what if they lie and they don't tell us public assistance? Well, then then that gives you grounds to deport them and put them in jail. That's a crime lying on a federal form. We're we're going to follow it up and we are going to uh push that you can no longer do that. The American people, our generosity has been taken advantage of. Our generosity is funding al-Shabaab in Iranian interest. It could be. Well, the the money, okay, this is really bad. The the the money is supposed to go for alleged asylum seekers and their families and children.
And if you were wiring the money out of the country, yeah, you're going to need asylum in America. One of two things must be true. You are getting too much money and your benefits should be cut or you are part of this conspiracy. Where did that money come from? We're going to find it out. That's what Treasury does. IRS has a group called Criminal Investigations. Criminal Investigations was the group. And so you the thing is that I'm so thankful for this guy because he's one of the only guys that understands the way the systems work.
See, basically if you understand the way the system works, you can figure out where you can strangle the system and where you can get choke points and stop people from doing bad stuff. This guy is great. Scott Bess's amazing. I love him. And uh this is Toothless. Well, it it it's everything is toothless unless you enforce it, right? And I think that it should obviously be enforced and I totally agree with that. I want to see that obviously, but uh we'll see what happens.
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