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There are reports of a shooting uh at the Islamic Center of San Diego. There is an active shooter report there. Again, this is video from just a few moments ago. Police are asking people to avoid that area completely. This is happening just east of Mission Bay. It appears there's at least one casualty. We are working to get more information on this. Yeah. Now, there also might be a special report from ABC News. If that happens, we're going to bring that to you. We'll keep the images of the fire in Seami Valley on the screen. Again, this is uh a report of a shooting at the Islamic Center of San Diego, which is Claremont, 20 minutes north of downtown. Now, one of the things that we're going to tell you about as well over three dead suspects, if you have you know of somebody that might be going to San Diego today, the Dodgers are playing in San Diego. Petco Field is in downtown San Diego. Claremont is 20 minutes north of downtown. So just to give you an idea, if you know of someone who might be traveling to San Diego possibly to go to the Dodger game, understand that there is now breaking news in San Diego. Uh reports of an active shooter. People are asked to avoid the area. This is in Claremont again 20 minutes north of downtown. Two dead suspects 17 report again. We will bring back themselves the images of the fire in Seami Valley on the screen. So you can see what heavy police presence after reports of active shooter at this Islamic center. Such sad images coming out of San Diego. You see the little kids walking. Yeah. That I mean what a relief. Terrible to see. Not not another [ __ ] [ __ ] that they're going to drag out and do this. Yeah. And uh it's so sad. I mean, I I think it's obviously really bad. A security guard was killed. Oh [ __ ] So, three people were killed and they killed one security guard and then they ended up killing themselves. Holy [ __ ] President Trump has been briefed. What the [ __ ] man? That's awful. Yeah. I I I'm I'm don't even know what Five total Wait, five total people were killed. Oh my god. And uh two five died, two suspects. Jesus, man. It's being blamed on Zionists on Twitter. I I mean, I don't know. I mean, like, it wasn't one I mean, there was one of these guys that did that that was like an atheist, like he he left Islam. I mean, like I I don't I I don't think that necessarily just because something like if a mosque gets attacked, for example, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's somebody from like a different religion. It could be somebody that's unhappy with that religion. I don't know what happened. I mean, I don't think anybody knows what happened. So, where is this here? Islamic center islamophobia. Like, I mean, this is the kind of stuff, right? Islamophobia. We don't even know why it happened. We don't like Well, how do we know about this at all? Uh yeah, I have no idea. Like it's it's just crazy. I mean, again, like this is uh there are reports the suspects might be Muslim. Yeah. I mean, like I don't think like why would you even say this? It's friendly fire. They left suicide notes. Oh, great. Uh uncorroborated claim that hate speech was written on the firearm. reports that uh are the kids left an anti-Muslim sewer slide note. I don't even know what that means. They said they found a suicide note and hate speech on the guns. Yeah, I guess we're going to have to wait and find out. Hate speech was scrolled on one of the weapons used in the shooting. Law enforcement says uh what does it say uh about racial pride? Additionally, hate speech was scrolled on the on their like but what is the what is it being what what's being said? Like I don't even they're blaming this on Israel. Of course, they're blaming it on Israel now. RIP victims, I hope the suspects burn. I mean, they're dead, right? I mean, so I mean, that that's done. Problem solved there, right? And why are a lot of shooters riding on their weapons? Because the reason why is the media. The reason why shooters do all of this stuff is because we talk about it and we glorify it. Like in my opinion, I would be okay if they had a law where like I mean I don't know it it does go against the first amendment, right? So like I'm I'm not even really I guess I'm not really advocating for this, but I do think that like this is the reason why it's happening is that basically inside of American media, they plaster a person's manifesto, all the photos of them, they do a biopic of them. It's basically, you know, being one of these like mass murderers or at least an attempted mass murderer is like an instant free ticket to infamy. And I think that the reason for that is the media ecosystem. And the media ecosystem rewards those people. And so somebody who feels like they've been marginalized, they feel like they've been, you know, like uh not given a fair chance, their message isn't being, you know, like seen in the way that they want it to. uh this is the motivation for them to go out and do one of these shootings because now they can get their message read out by everybody. They can, you know, like have people remember them, etc. And there's a lot of um there's a lot of reward that you get out of that. That's everybody now. Yeah. And so that's why they do it. Naturalb born killers. No, they're not natural-born killers. Like I think that like I mean somebody that goes and shoots up a school with like young children in it is mentally ill. Like this is what a person that's mentally ill would do. Like uh average people, normal people don't do that. I have dead. That's an afternoon in Chicago. Yeah. Otherwise they're not going to be next Elon Musk. But they're desperate for people to know them. Yeah. Exactly. There was an imam and a moss that praised the October 7th attacks as well. Well, yeah. I mean, there's plenty of people that support terrorism. We we know that. I mean, it's pretty obvious. What is this here? Islamic center San Diego like me. Muslim America is targeted today. Pray in peace. Yeah. I mean, obviously all of the Islamic identity politics people are going to start immediately playing for, you know, sympathy or something like this. We don't even know what the shoo who who the shooters were. like they could also be Muslim. Like this is the thing. It's like as soon as this happens, they're trying to pre pre-flight and craft the narrative, you know, proactively. Oh, who knows? Never waste a crisis. Yeah. Not dead in a car near scene. You know, act of terrorism. Yeah. I mean, it it is terrorism. It's hate crime or terrorism. Either one. A mom of the terror mosque. Is this No, this is something else. This is from a long time ago at that mosque. Back to the breaking news. Uh we started this show with the deadly shooting at that mosque in San Diego, the Islamic Center of San Diego. Multiple law enforcement officials just briefed uh tell CNN that hate speech bigotry was scrolled on one of the suspects. There be a press conference really. Uh let's get right to CNN's Josh Campbell. Josh, tell us more. Well, San Diego police said a short time ago they were treating this as a hate crime until it's not is how the police chief described it. But we're getting these critical new details about the alleged suspects in this incident. Multiple law enforcement sources tell CNN that one of the suspects in the shooting uh took a firearm from their parents' home left a suicide note that contained writings about racial pride back. Okay, let me see. All right, they might have more information about it with this. Let me open it up. Okay, let's see what they say about it. to the families of the three that are deceased because of the horrific actions of today. This is a city's and a community's absolute worst nightmare as a free society. And I appreciate all of your patience as we try to work through and piece this scene back together again. I have some updated information that I want to make sure everybody has. At about 9:42 this morning, we received a call of a runaway juvenile. Mhm. Yeah. After speaking with the mom, mom began to bits and pieces of information over an extended period of time. The information that she was gathering and conveying to us began to elevate the threat level that we were perceiving with this information. Mhm. She believed her son was suicidal and she began to share information that sever several of her weapons were missing. That's pretty bad. her vehicle was missing in addition to her son. She also said that she was her son was with a companion and that they were dressed in camo and that is not consistent with what we would typically see from some that is suicidal. Okay. That began to trigger a larger threat assessment picture. Uh-huh. Our threat management unit began to take the tips and leads that we had and utilize the technology we have available to us. Our license plate readers was at the top of that list. We began to have uh we we noted that there were hits with the vehicle down in Fashion Valley. We dispatched officers into the area of the mall as a possible uh location that was a threat. We also gathered information that one of the individuals was associated in some form or fashion with Madison High School. Oh. We alerted school school police department and we dispatched officers into the area of Madison High School. While we were gathering this information and we were trying to zero in on where these individuals were at, we received the call at approximately 11:43 that there was an active shooter at the Islamic Center. Okay. Officers were in the area still talking with mom trying to piece together where they might be the locations that she felt that they would be at. And that was just a few blocks away. Those officers once they heard what was happening at the Islamic Center immediately dispatched themselves to the mosque. And just to recap what we talked about earlier, when officers arrived on scene, they came across in some form or fashion three deceased indiv uh individuals victims. One was a security guard at the center. Who are the other two? Was he the big guy? We'll get some questions in just a minute, sir. Thank you. because of what the officers were encountering and because we know that this is a large gathering facility with kids, with adults, with community members from throughout our county. Officers immediately began to uh enter the facility utilizing our active shooter protocol, looking for a suspect or two. At the same and in about the same time as they were making entry and searching through the facility room by room, we got we received calls of a vehicle a couple blocks away that was shooting at a landscaper. The landscaper is going to be okay, but we are still investigating that scene. It appears he may have been shot in the helmet that deflected and saved his life, but that is not totally confirmed at this point. A couple blocks away from there, we also received a call where a community member reported our two suspects in a vehicle and it appeared they had gunshot wounds and upon our arrival, we determined they were deceased. Damn. We are in the process of serving search warrants that will continue tonight and on into the days ahead. We're going to continue following any leads and any any information that comes forward as we're all focused on figuring out how this happened and what could we have done to prevent it. I will end by saying it's not a cliche. If you see something, if you hear something, if you know something, that is an integral part of preventing the things like this from happening. and it's an integral part for us to be able to take that information, utilize the tools that we have to try to prevent something like this from happening. So, with that, I'm going to bring up uh Mark Remley from the FBI to discuss a little bit more information. Great. All right, we got the FBI guy. He going to let people know. Thank you all for coming and thank you, Chief. My name is Mark Remly. I am the special agent in charge of the FBI San Diego field office. As was reported earlier, three adults have lost their lives and today's senseless act of violence. We also know the teenage subjects responsible are also deceased. Oh, also Okay, so it's five total. The FBI is determined to uncover all the facts associated with this incident and learn why this shooting occurred at the Islamic Center of San Diego. Here's what we know at this time after our preliminary assessment and working closely with our law enforcement partners to gather evidence. victim specialists deployed to the reunification center at 4125 Hathaway in San Diego. We're also having additional victim services personnel deploy from our headquarters in Washington DC to assist with the families that have been impacted. Our bomb techs have cleared the vehicle associated with the subjects. We are in the process of interviewing family and friends of the subjects and evidence tech evidence response teams are gathering all the evidence from the scene for review. We will process everything as quickly but as meticulously as we can. We again thank you for your patience as we work through the scene. The FBI stands with the communities we serve and our hearts weigh heavy for those killed and everyone who's subjected to this violence today. Holy [ __ ] Shooting incidents like this not only impact those within the immediate vicinity but everyone in the community also sounds during elections. We will continue to coordinate with our law enforcement partners and work closely with them for as long as it takes until we understand the synagogue like less than a month. This happens always. We thank the public for your continued cooperation. As we continue to work through this active investigation, we ask that you send photos, videos, or any visual evidence or information you may have. How long until we get a new civil war cuz two retards of San Diego shooting? What are you talking about? As I mentioned earlier, no piece of information is too small. I mean, this doesn't represent everything evidence we need to better understand. I mean, let's be honest, man. I'm going to turn it over to the mayor for some comments. This has nothing to do with politics. It probably has something to do with the religion, right? Get direct results. It's your leadership. Your leadership, our Muslim brothers and sisters have been talking. Hags mad. Hags mad. Oh my god. Shut up. Shut up. They muted her. They should approval rating that a fascist dictator with [ __ ] in his pants. Oh god. Today our city was shaken by a violent act of hate here at the Islamic Center of San Diego. And my heart is with every person that is impacted by this horrific tragedy. I just not even in our city should live in fear because of their identity, their faith, or their place of learning. I'm grateful to the San Diego Police Department, our San Diego Fire Rescue Department, and our partners at the local, state, and federal level. All of whom showed up here to help with this investigation and this response and help to bring this threat to an end. just blaming Trump. Yeah. Like this tragedy is particularly hurtful to our Muslim community as it comes together at the start of the dual hidage, one of is Islam's holiest periods leading up to and ala a time of deep faith, reflection, and unity. Hate has no home in San Diego. Islamophobia has no home in San Diego. An attack on any San Diegon is an attack on all San Dieagans. And we will not stand for it in America's finest city. Let there be no misunderstanding. For anyone who would seek to bring this kind of violence to this city, you will be met with the full force of our law enforcement partnerships. Anyone who seeks to do harm here will understand the response will be swift and you will be brought to justice. In the meantime, I want to assure San Dieans, in particular, our Muslim brothers and sisters. San Diego Police Department will be guarding all of our local houses of worship with additional presence to asssure your safety during this very, very tragic time. We'll be guarding other houses of worship and making sure that we anticipate and try and prevent the very worst. We didn't meet that mark today, but I have deep gratitude to the security officer who was here, whose actions and heroicism undoubtedly saved lives. And I'm grateful to every law enforcement individual who ran toward this call to help bring these people to justice. I my prayers and my thoughts and our whole hearts community is with the Islamic Center of San Diego and all Muslim San Dieans. With that, I'll turn it back to our chief. Any questions? Before I open up to questions, we're a little over 5 hours outside of this incident. Understand the complexity of and the dynamics of a situation like this and the emotions that are without a doubt behind everything that's going on. much of what else there is to answer is is currently being investigated and I cannot go into some of those details but I will do my best to try to make sure that you guys have the information you need moving forward I don't know what happened to some question that we have sources we have sources who say that there were anti-Islamic writings inside you talk about how you received information from 2 hours if any of that information they have of how he might asking if there were any is anti-Islamic writings. Yeah, we are we are actively investigating this uh as a hate crime. Uh there are details and information uh uh that that we are investigating as to uh exactly what those uh uh what the hate speech or the hate words uh were that were conveyed. Um, some of that is going to have to take more time to develop further uh to see where that information is coming from, but yes, it's being investigated as a as a hate crime at this point. There was definitely hate rhetoric that was involved that was found inside the Tell us about the shooter involved. I'll leave it at that for now. Yes. Two dead retards. We had heard earlier reports that he engaged with these guys in some gun Is that true? We're It's still preliminary. We're still looking into that. Uh we do believe the security guard uh was able to help at least minimize uh uh the situation to to to the front area of the mosque. Uh I until we know more, I don't want to speculate, but at this point, I think it's fair to say uh his his actions were heroic. Uh, and undoubtedly he saved lives Yes, ma'am. Do you have any details about total suicide? Uh, I don't have details, but yes, the call came in as a runaway and then it it kind of elevated as mom began to kind of piece together uh what she was finding with her son uh being missing. She came up uh she realized that she was missing weapons, multiple weapons. Uhoh. her vehicle was missing. There there are details that she she was beginning to develop a bigger picture as to what she was dealing with was conveying that to our folks and and we were trying to put that together and and get out in front of this as quickly as we could. Suicide note there. She found some note left by him. What that note looks like, what that note says, uh I'm not going to disclose right now. Yes, sir. Search warrants. search warrants that we're going to be serving. I'm not going to put that information out right now. No. Prior to today, some of that information we're we're that's what we're actively looking and investigating right now. Uh obviously, we have a lot of questions is what led up to this moment. Uh and that will that will be ongoing in this investigation as we move forward. How far inside the teenagers were getting are race groups? I'm sorry. government, American policy to influence. I I I don't I feel like this is just two guys that did a shooting. What do you mean? Not everything is part of a grand conspiracy. You know, sometimes it's just two idiots doing something stupid. We have we we we've just basically notified family of those victims. Uh we're not going to put out their identity right now. You sure? No. Nobody else should be either. We will we will put that information out here in the days ahead, but but for now we're not we're not putting that information out. We're trying to protect kind of what we have. There's more work to be done and we want to make sure that we're preserving some of that for the moment. Yes, ma'am. Provide specific identifying information, but can you tell us anything about their roles at the center? Uh I'm going to let Imam Taha answer that type question. I don't know for sure. I don't know for sure. share anything more about relationship between 17 and 19 17 conspiracy I think it's 18 and I need to correct that I think I put out earlier it was 19 I believe it's 18 I mean there's no evidence for that right now relationship no unknown at least one but unknown about the other one is true that in the past has also should be addressed in there crime uh hate from around the country they are unert I I I think uh sounds like it happened in Austin too it's fair to say that that all religious facilities across this country around the world uh in today's world um are well aware of of the risks of that are associated u it's an it's an unfortunate reality of the world we live in Okay. Um, but I I would say absolutely everybody feels that that insecurity about the hate crime investigation. Are these were these materials anti-Islamic? Were they anti-immigrant? Can you share anything more about this? Well, first let me make sure I'm clear. There was no specific threat uh especially no specific threat to the Islamic Center. Uh it was just general hate kind of speech that I think covered a wide gamut. Uh I don't want to go into any of the specifics at this point. Uh again, we are still actively investigating this as we speak. Uh but it was more generalized. What was the relationship? What is it? A terrorist attack, not a high crime. It's so funny to see all the different groups in some form or capacity like getting mad that like how do they know it's a hate crime? How do they know it's not a terrorist attack? We're not sure. We don't know. Like how do you I don't nobody knows. So the question is did was there a a specific threat to the high school? There was no specific threat to any facility or any place with what we knew. There was generalized hate rhetoric and speech. Uh, mom believed that her son was suicidal, but the additional bits of information led us to believe that there was a bigger threat picture here that we needed to consider. Look at this kid's internet history. One person that's suicidal is not going to take three weapons from a location. Those little bits of information were are were significant, important that triggered a much bigger threat assessment that began to to bring additional investigators in to utilize the technology that we have available to try to get out in front of what we feared would be coming. But there was no specific threat to this center or any religious facility or any school in or any mall in any way. I want to make sure that's clear. We don't we don't get that wrong. three weapons, right? You spoke about the landscaper who was shot at. Um, is that confirmed that these shootings are related or is that something you're still investigating? It's probably not related. Uh, we're still investigating, but yes, we do believe that's all associated with the larger picture of today's events. It's not they're not they're not separate. The the names of Let me sir, go ahead. So Chief, I I just I want to know and hopefully watching us do. How do you want to protect these these types of what you're doing today? Yeah. So first of all, this is why we need the community. This is a partnership. Public safety is a shared responsibility. It is important that people share information when they see, hear, or know something that pertains to threats of violence. That is what allows us to filter through who is going to cause harm and who is not. So that information is is is priority one. Do you know when you're going to reopen the mosque? I'll let him imam Taha speak to that. Chief, just a clarification, the mother that you're speaking about, mother of the younger juvenile or the It's the old the younger one, right? The younger. Yeah. I mean, because the other one juvenile, right? We'll sit here all night and and go question and answer. We will provide more information when more information is available and we have more uh of the information confirmed that we're now starting to speculate on. I want to make sure that you have the details thus far so that you understand exactly what we were responding to, what we were dealing with. And I'll close by saying this. Uh was it our hearts go out crime? Nobody knows obviously the greater Muslim community is trying to create a narrative. Nobody knows. We're one city. I just give one. You're not going to have all the information immediately. As police chief, I am grateful that we have police officers and sheriff's deputies from throughout this county that dropped what they were doing and didn't do just what they were trained to do. They did what we hire them to do to step into harm's way to be willing to willing to run towards gunfire to protect people they don't even know. And so with that, thank you for your patience and uh we we will be back out in the days ahead with more information. Thank you. Well, there it is. All right, listening in there to an update from San Diego police about this a deadly shoot. This is the way I see it, right? Is I don't know who this guy is. probably some other like the guy the leader from the mosque or something. Yeah. Um there it is. Google hate crime is targeted towards people of certain ethnicity. A terrorist attack is broader on the spectrum. So it's a hate crime. I mean I I don't really know. I mean people can go back and they can reframe it however they want, but at the end of the day it's too I mean like terrorism, hate crime. I mean it seems like it was probably motivated by identity. It seems that way. I mean, like there there's literally no evidence that doesn't point to that direction. So, it's hard to say. I I really don't know. I guess we're going to have to wait and see what uh what happens here. But uh yeah, I'm going to take a break and and relax. I'll talk about this for a little bit, but um you know, then I'm going to go and uh probably eat some food. And I wonder how generalized the hate messages are. Yeah. I mean, like we don't really know what he said. We don't know why he said it or what the reasoning was. So, I mean, a lot of people are trying to like, you know, come out and like have a narrative, right? They're trying to craft a narrative like this is, you know, like right-wing violence on Muslims. This is, you know, uh, it done by Israel. I don't think anybody really knows. It seems like, I mean, very obviously, you know, there's not a lot of mosques out there. And so, it's pretty easy to tell that this was probably targeted, right? But at the same time, you don't know why. What was the reasoning? who was doing it or anything. I mean, in my opinion, this is just going to this is the same thing I've said before about like I think it was a trans shooter or something like that is that when you go into a school full of young children to kill them, your reasoning I don't think really matters a lot. And the reason why is that a person that does that is so profoundly mentally ill and deranged and evil that they're not like, you know, you have the spectrum of like conservative to liberal. Like these people aren't on that spectrum. They're on a totally different spectrum. They're crazy. And so like you're trying to assign rational indicators to a person who does not have a sound mind. And when you do that, guess what? You're going to have a lot of misfires. you're going to have a lot of mistakes. So, yeah, I don't know what the what the reasoning is on it or anything else. I have no idea. You can't make rational sense out of rational. What's generalized hate speech? I don't know. I We'll have to wait and see. It could be anything. Could be like four or five different things. So, Americans have been arrested in Japan for harassing Punch Monkey. Is a part of crypto monetization. One of them jumped into habitat. Good. Put him in jail for 30 years. [ __ ] annoying. Yeah, the shooters uh or weapons stolen from her teen were missing. Search warrants are being served now. Holy [ __ ] The mosque was shot up today. People want the mosque ones. I mean, I don't know why like the mosque that was supposedly shot up today. I I don't like Can we just like I I It's just It People are so annoying. They're so They're so annoying. I don't understand this at all. Bad news about the FTune file. Oh yeah, people might not like that. Mos shooter guy hasn't been named. They're already blaming a white racist guy. Jesus Christ. Every single time there's a tragedy, everybody is just clamoring to [ __ ] figure out who they can blame it on. Oh my god, it's so exhausting, bro. Like, it's so tiresome. Jesus Christ. We don't know. Just wait. Just give it a few hours, man. Is this Are you planning to be like on on later? No, no, no. Absolutely not. Let me see if there's any more of this. Oh, it's not even on there. The optics are all that matters. Yeah, I think so. Do you want me to call the Islamic Center of San Diego a shooter at an Islamic center? You mean a mosque? What? Muslim just got shut up on San Diego by a Tommy Robinson fan. Tommy Robin. What does Tommy Robinson have to do with this? This guy I mean this guy makes [ __ ] up constantly. Yeah. I I don't know. Are people People are probably blaming Israel, right? Never let a good tragedy go to waste. Junior lies about most things. Yeah. I think that like what they should do for people that are just like constant misinformation peddlers is they should replace the check mark with a clown emoji, a clown face. I do I think it's it's so annoying. They're so obnoxious. Feel bad for the mother if she knew her car. Yeah. I mean again like it was you realize the Islamic center hosted two of the 9/11 attackers. Yeah, I saw I mean I I still don't think that you should, you know, 25 years later go into that same place and then try to kill eight-year-olds in there. Like I I don't think that's that's not like I I don't know what you're trying to add to the conversation by saying like, yeah, uh, they shouldn't have hosted those guys. And you can have a conversation about, you know, whether like they're terrorists or whether they're supporting terrorism or anything else, but you can have that conversation at the same time as saying that, yeah, you shouldn't go into a [ __ ] school and try to kill the kids and shoot random security guards. I mean, let let's [ __ ] like I mean, don't allow your mind to be um don't allow your mind to be colonized by third worldism, right? Don't let that happen. Like this is it. It is third worldism. Whenever like one of the core tenants of third worldism is that you treat dis uh like distaste with something or frustration with something and you respond to it with violence. Like this is something that again this is something that every third world country basically uh is a victim of. And if you look at it like and you look at like the way that they solve problems over there and everything that is probably one of the core issues is that it's the fixation around using violence as a problem-solving technique. Uh no, you can't do that. How much you believe your ideologies translate to the real world for the average 9 toive Taco Bell manager? Are they all just cooked? I don't know. It depends. Yeah. I I don't know. Nothing's your fault. Everything deserves uh justified silence. The world needs to adapt to me. Third worldism in a nutshell. Yeah. Exactly. Like don't that ideology. And I I think that this happens inside of America a lot. And it's a huge problem. Like fundamentally, you know, if you're unhappy with something, there is a process to solving that and to dealing with it. But you can't just go in like if everybody was angry every time that they got angry they get to go and shoot some place up. Everything would be getting shot up all the time and everybody'd be getting killed. Like it it would be chaos. So you can't allow a world like that to exist. Unfortunately, I'm so radicalized against Islam as a whole. I can't find myself upset with this. Any ideas how to get past this? I mean, the security guards might have not even been Islamic. the guys are probably just working security has got they might just be hired from a private company and they got killed for no reason. Like I mean yeah it doesn't have anything to do with it. And also another thing is that a lot of these like super bigoted crazy people that like go out on these shooting rampages they'd shoot you too. Like just because you um you know they might dislike Islam, they'll probably find something else to dislike you for too because that's what crazy people do. That's why the mom immediately called the police. Probably it's because she she put two and two and two and two together, right? I mean, that's it. So they're hateful people. Yeah, they're hateful, deranged people. So, never think that one of these shooters, whenever the shooter is aligned with your ideology, never think that one of these people is on your side or is some sort of, you know, misunderstood actor. They would probably kill you, too. The mind of a person that goes into a school to shoot 8-year-old children is not something that you can find any common ground with. You can't understand the way a person like that thinks. So the more that you try to go and you know like reverse engineer what their reasoning is, the more that you just put yourself at a disadvantage is it is actually compromise our side. I mean maybe. Yeah. I don't know. And and also like you you just can't I mean you even if you don't like Islam or you don't like Muslims or you don't like Jews or you don't like Israel, you just can't go around shooting Jews and Muslims. You just we we can't do that. We can't do it. That's not the way we do things around here. Sorry. Sorry. I mean Jesus. Yeah. Period. Yeah. There's no asterk to that. Is this considered political violence? I'd say I mean it's it's it's a hate crime. You could say it's like it sure I mean you could say that maybe like you could say maybe it's terrorism. I mean like I I don't know like like I mean these definitions are very specific but like overall I think that it's it's obviously ideologically motivated. If you want to win an argument, you attack your opponent's argument. It's not a person. You attack a person. You lost by default. Yeah, for sure. Everyone should condemn political violence and and violence. The only time violence is appropriate is in self-defense or in defense of others. Yeah, I think you're right about that. But I think right now um nobody really knows what happened. I mean, there's there's no certainty for it. This is just the names of the people, but that's it. What are people saying about this? Vasquez and Fuentes, the white supremacists. that this is just it's oh my god there's not two sides of this. There's like five. Sounds like Muslim on Muslim crime. Nothing special. I don't know why that is. Yeah, it's Wow. Wow. Kane and Caleb, good job. Yeah. Uh, dumbass kids, cowards killed themselves. You should be happy. It's good. Um, yeah, there's not really a lot of information about this that you can really say. Identified says hate rhetoric is involved. Yeah, we'll see what it is, man. You'll need to stop trying to find things to point fingers at. Yeah, this isn't a left or right versus issue. I I don't think in a lot of cases it is. I It's the same thing I said with the synagogue or anything else, right? Or like any of the the trans shooter that went to the school. Like the people are just nutballs. That's really it. They're nutballs. And it's always it's just a bunch of people like Laura Loomer, Medi Hassan. Like this is it's all about an identity war. It's all about an ideology war. It's not about what even happened. Like they don't even know why they shot him. They don't know who the people are. They don't have a picture of them. And these people are like writing out entire [ __ ] you know, a synopsis of like what this means politically. It's just so exhausting and annoying. These people are obnoxious. I hate it. Uh yeah, that's propag. It's a propaganda war. It's such a massive propaganda war. It's so annoying. I hate it. I see it all the time. And I'm just so tired of seeing it. I'm ex-Muslim. I hate nothing more than Islam. Yeah, I I I understand that. There's a lot of people like one of the shootings in uh say Iran, but no. Uh it was in what do you call it? What was the the place? Uh it was in like Germany or something. It was done by an ex-Muslim. And like it's possible that could have happened too, right? I mean, we just we we don't know what happened.