People have lost their f***ing minds..

Iron Mouse decided that she was going to avoid a partnership with uh Neverness to Everness. And the reason for that apparently is that uh I'm trying to find like where the actual I think this is this seems to be like the main clip, right? Yeah, it is. This is the main clip. Let's just take a look at it. And they they had told they had told my people from weathering with you on a big TV in the city with an AI filter over it. It's not even a whoops, we forgot to take out the temp assets. It's theft and they keep lying. Feel sorry for anyone that was involved without knowing about this having already signed contracts without being able to back out. Bro, I would have never known until I I didn't know until I saw that thing on Twitter after the stream. I guess like since I did it, I got pushed like a lot of stuff got pushed me and then people also added me with stuff. So, I saw it and I'm like, "What the [ __ ] bro?" Uh-huh. And they told my sponsor people, they told my sponsor people, they said they said no. They said we do not have AI in anything. There's no AI anywhere. Apparently that wasn't true. Why are you [ __ ] lying, bro? Like I feel like I mean if that there's like there's two components to this, right? So the first component is that the AI like the the AI virtue signaling I just think is so [ __ ] cringe. It's so insanely annoying, cringeworthy, obnoxious. Like I mean there are so many other companies like people brought this up like uh she was like apparently Iron Mouse is new in the new Hongkey Gotcha game and then you have Mihoyo hiring people for AI stuff. So like where really is the standard here? How is that okay? But like what you were doing over there isn't like I mean what they're doing like I I don't I don't get this right. I don't think that there's really a standard here. It's racist towards AI. Yes, it is. It's racist towards AI. And so also like there isn't a team of devs anywhere that are using AI as an assisted tool right now. Yeah. Exactly. And this is really what I think things are doing. Arbitrary lines in the sand. Exactly. And so like I I think that it's just Anyway, well, let me talk about the easy one first, right? I'll talk about the easy one, which is that it's so obvious that it's so obvious that if a company lies to you that it would give you reason and pause to work with them in the future. I think that's super reasonable and anybody could understand that. Like if if they if they're telling you something but then they're doing something else or they want to change the deal or the nature of the contract or whatever. But here's the reality is that if you're trying to draw a line in the sand with not playing video games made with AI, my best advice to you is to stop playing video games. And the reason why is because a lot of these studios are using they're using AI, but they're just not telling people because it's just part of the development process. It's not there's no like grand design here. It's just that's what people do, right? They're using it with everything. They're using it with pre-production. And they've said, by the way, uh, Hottest Studio, these are the people that made Neverness, stated, "AI is used only for pre-production renderings and never for core assets or final content, but apparent AI generated billboards and cutscenes with visual inconsistencies are present in the released game." So, they said that there was an AI, and there seems to be, well, we don't know this for sure, but it seems to be the case. So, go back to original Mega Man and Metroid. Yeah, exactly. And so who gives a [ __ ] about billboards? I don't think anybody really cares. And this is the problem is that I think there is a manufactured outrage around AI. There is a massive manufactured outrage around AI. And I think the reason why is because you have all these people who are you have all these people that are trying to push the idea of like AI being this horrible thing, but the reason why they're actually pushing AI being this horrible thing is because AI stands to put their job at risk. So it actually doesn't have anything to do with AI fundamentally. And if it wasn't for that one thing, they'd be totally okay with it. Resident Evil 9 where developers admitted the assets like the TV and bed were made with AI. Is that true? Let me let me look and see this. This is just a playthrough of her playing the game. I have no idea. And so, uh, yeah, it's Terminator. It's just jealousy. Well, I don't think it's jealousy. I don't think that's the right word, but um, anyway, so let's go back. I will no push AI billboards with zero related to the game. I was on a date with men. I will no longer be playing AI. Genuinely super fun. And I care about supporting media that supports artists and supports our planet and keeps it safe. Is this person also another artist? Uh, I have no idea if they are or not. What is this here to all the AI bros in your comments here? Your lack of empathy for our earth. The only one the animals we have here. Like what the animals? What does AI have to do with animals? So, uh, once again, it's the artsy fartsy theater kids. You're right. Well, and and these are the people that always have to create some sort of um like some sort of uh theatrics, right? there has to be some sort of thing that they're getting upset about or mad about or whatever. And uh yeah, the amount of energy it consumes. Yeah, but I mean like obviously there's a lot of things that consume a lot of energy, right? I mean AI isn't the only thing that consumes a lot of energy. Like I don't even understand this. So uh 99% of the games made by artists whose work they're now discarding. Well, I think it's more than that. I think the truth is that every single game that you're going to play, there are going to be games that you can tell are made by AI and there's going to be games that you can't tell are made by AI. I don't think that there are going to be that many games that are not made with AI. And if you want to make the argument that for example like it takes jobs away from people, if you have AI that's doing pre-production or it's doing uh storyboarding or some other variation of that, fundamentally that is a job that a person used to have that's now being taken away from that person and being given to AI instead. So even if it doesn't make it to the final product, if AI is being used in the creative process, it's probably being used in order to mass-roduce work that would have otherwise had to have been paid for. So I don't really even understand this distinction because really the problem is if you have a problem with generative AI, then I think that you should have a problem with it categorically, right? You shouldn't have a problem with it when it's only you can only see it, right? That's it. It's longer a story then. Exactly. And so, uh, AI is used everywhere in tech to write code. Exactly. Yeah. And so, and also writing code with AI, is it really that much different from the person, the programmer's perspective, between having your code be written by AI versus having an image be created by AI? Well, whenever you're firing the person that's doing it, whether it's the code or the artist, um, they're still losing their job. I don't think it's a big difference for them. For example, it's the exact same thing. How do you think AI wouldn't remove all industry? What is this here? Which would hinder our outlook to winning World War II? I mean, no. My outlook on AI, this is my outlook on AI. I think that we should have almost zero regulation around AI. I think AI should be massively funded and I think it's a huge resource and it's a massive tool that everybody should be using and I think the government should be in like it should be encouraging more companies to double down on using AI like zero regulation. Yeah. Yeah. pretty much zero regulation. Uh that that's that's my outlook on it. And and here's the reason why. Here's the reason why I think that uh it's because other countries in the world are using AI and they're doing this. And I view it in the same way that I view developing nuclear weapons. Obviously AI is very different, but it's the same concept where I think that it's such a powerful tool and it's such a worthwhile resource that the focus should be about making sure that we're the ones that control it first and we're able to define what the control of it actually is. Because the only thing worse than us spending a lot of resources and having unregul unregulated AI is another country like imagine if Iran had that. Imagine if China had that. Imagine if Russia had that or another country that's oppositional to the United States has that. Then it becomes an even larger problem because the reality is that we live in a global economy and inside of a global economy you are competing against Chinese products. You're competing against Russian products. Like right now there's sanctions but there's not always going to be sanctions. It's the same with Iran. There probably won't always be sanctions on Iran. So eventually these people that are using these types of tools will be able to weaponize them and affect them in a way that is beneficial for their company. So if you have one company that's using AI and the other company isn't using AI, I wonder which one is going to be more successful. And I think that what's going to happen is that you're going to have a convergence where you have the good companies that are also using AI to multiply their effects, right? things like Palunteer, right? Things like this. And then you're going to have a crazy amount of of of resource allocation. 20 uh AI 2027 is a good YouTube video about what you're talking about. AI 2027. I wasn't I going to watch this like [ __ ] 3 months ago? I think I was and I never did. Maybe I should watch this. Uh a realistic scenario of AI. Yeah, maybe this is this it here. We're not ready for it. Yeah, I think this is it, right? I'm not going to look at it right now. I just want to have it listed. Second video, maybe. I don't know really which which one is is worth watching. It's the second video. Okay, maybe I I can watch this. We'll see what happens. But anyway, let me talk about this first. Right. People are only employed now because they can't scale fast enough. Exactly. But if you aren't applying the effects of the human mind or the idea when uh uh that when at war the civilians are the most important aspect of your nation's industrial capacity, I don't know what you mean by that. So you'd have to explain it a little bit differently. Then why do I listen to you if I can ask AI? Because AI isn't good enough. That's the reason why. And also a lot of my answers to things you could get through AI. And a lot of people choose to use AI. Like look at people that are jerking off to like fake AI girls on on Twitter, right? And [ __ ] like this on Instagram and Only Fans even, right? And so so is AI art? Well, I I think that the focus is around generative AI, right? It's around AI that creates images and it creates creative content. And I think the reason why there's such a negative hostility around that. The reason why is because the people are out there that are pushing the hostility are the ones that have something to lose. I think that the overwhelming majority of people that are on Twitter and on social media that are screaming from the rooftops about how bad AI is, AI can directly stand to take their job. And I think that's what's happening is that you have these people that are so upfired, voice actors, people like this, because voice acting is going to be you you'll still have voice acting. You're always probably going to have voice acting, but it's it's going down massively. And you're having these tools be generated and whenever you have other countries that are using these tools, you simply can't compete in the free marketplace if they're using these tools and you're not. So I'll give you a good parallel to this, right? and it's illegal immigration and how construction is basically the same thing. So, if you have two contracting companies and one contracting company is hiring illegal aliens and they are paying them under the table and they're able to get the job done for $1,000, then you can quote the uh you know the the person that you're doing the uh the work for for let's say $1,500, right? But if you're hiring all Americans and everything is totally above the board and no edges are, you know, or no no corners are cut and it's totally above the board, let's say the cost of that is maybe $1,500. The base cost is $1,500. So now in order to achieve the same profit margin you have to now charge I don't know how much would that be like $130,000 $150 or sorry uh it would be it would be $2, like $100, right? So you have to charge more money. So my point is that whenever all things are considered equal, the company that uses more things to save time, save money, and save resources will win in the free market. And this is something that's ev it's evident and I'll give you a couple of examples of this, right? Is that think about how many people moved away from, you know, bespoke leather goods and they chose to go with plastic instead. And now you have plastic that is massive in the market, right? And you have some people that are going back to leather and things like that, but for the most part, they're using these types of uh, you know, synthetic materials. And I think that like my dad told me about this whenever it happened like same as styrofoam etc. And so what's now happening is that you have so many of these people that you know like I'm trying to think of a better way to explain this right how how can I explain this better? Plastic is [ __ ] though. Well plastic is reusable. People said it's durable. It is. And ultimately it's a lot cheaper. So if you can deliver a worse product at a better market price because this is the way that so a lot of people don't really understand this because they just look at value. So this is the way it works right is that value this is value right and price have to go up but the thing is that there are various intersections let's say every intersection between uh between the red lines and the black lines is a sale okay and so this is this is the total amount of price that you have here and this is the value right it's very very simple So, you can buy something right here that has a low price and a low value. And for a lot of people, that's going to be more than good enough. They don't need to have the latest and greatest highquality material. They just need something that's good enough. You have other people that want something that's a little bit higher quality. And then you have some people that are still going for the, you know, the bespoke um, you know, higher quality goods. So yeah, it's basically like this is uh I guess this is Teeu. Uh this is let me think a good way to say it. Okay. Uh all right. Uh this is this is AliExpress. This is um Kohl's and this is Gucci, right? I mean like just or Balenciaga. So each one of these different companies has a value proposition and there's a different price point where at the market people find value in it. But overwhelmingly the luxury goods sell a much lower volume. And the problem is that luxury video games I don't really think are going to I don't think that's going to become a thing, right? It's not going to happen. And so uh yeah, team to Walmart. Yeah, something like that. Except it's not cheaper for the consumer. It's cheaper for the companies to massproduce. Used to be able to buy better crafted ship locally because they weren't trying to produce it everywhere in the world. Well, what the point is is that like I mean AI is going to be used with everything. Every company is going to be using AI. There's not going to be a company that isn't using AI. I mean like I like for example like Iron Mouse has YouTube videos, right? Like let me see if I can just pull up like give you an example, right? I mean and and this is how this is how ubiquitous it is, right? Is that you know you have somebody like this, right? I mean let me just go and I'm just going to pull up a random video. Okay, this is like two days ago, right? And so you you probably have if you go through this uh you can do there's a transcript, right? And and all this is transcripted like this this is done with technology, right? It's done with some form of AI. Same with uh you know like subtitles and everything like that. And you you have all these instances of people that are basically fishes complaining about water whenever they're able to perceive it. But I think the reality is that we're totally surrounded by AI. AI is part of our everyday lives already. Like if you're using Twitter, your information and what you're typing and saying is being fed directly into Grock, for example. And so there's nothing that you can really do to get away from it. So drawing these imaginary lines in the sand about AI doesn't make a lot of sense to me because how can you have a how can you have a how can you have a platform and have a have an internet presence on a platform that you know basically is being used for AI generation. You're uploading content onto a platform that is you know actively using your content for AI generation. They're obviously doing this like duh. And so, but you're going to draw the line at a video game making an AI billboard. There's no logic to that. You see what I'm saying? There's there's no logic. Like, I I I don't I don't understand this at all. Like, there's no none of this makes sense to me. It's ridiculous. Where do you draw the line? Well, I would draw the line. So, this is where I would draw the line. I think that I mean I I really kind of don't if you want me to be honest, right? I've played AI video games before. I've been a pretty big supporter of AI. Like I use AI on my stream. Like I feel like I'm a pretty big advocate of AI if you want me to be honest. It's cheap virtue signaling. Well, what I want, this is what I want. I want a list of every creator that's going to virtue signal about how bad AI is. And I want to wait five years. I want to wait three years. And then when Twitch integrates AI, because you know they're going to do it, they're going to integrate AI themselves. And then when other things integrate AI, I want to ask them, is AI good now? Do you support it? But the reality is that I think with a lot of people they are more than willing to say that this is bad when it is of no cost to them. And I think that again like she is taking not taking a sponsorship but I think there's a secondary reason for that that they literally lied to her which is I think extremely valid but the staff will sabotage it. I don't think that they will. I I think that that's not going to happen. We just found out a game I worked on. Oh, so this is this is another person here. Um I don't know really what this is or who this person is. Uh, a game that I worked on has been using AI and has been dishonest about it. I want to be clear that I do not support generative AI in any creative field, including voice over, art, writing, and music. If this is not addressed and removed, I will not I will not be continuing my work with this team. And but as coding and software development using AI is fine. Exactly. Yeah. There is no This is the problem that I have, right? There's no logic to this. Where is the logic there? There isn't any. There's just none. Like it it's AI is the new gambling outrage. I think it is. I think that AI is the and gambling I mean like I I don't like gambling, right? I don't. And I can see why artists don't like AI. I can understand that. It's actually very easy to understand why they don't like AI. But at the same time, nobody is entitled to have their job kept on life support by delaying a cultural innovation. This is it. you you you you're not entitled to this. No artist is entitled to this. Nobody has the right to be able to do that. So like for example, and I said this beginning of the stream and I I'll go through some examples, right? Like you used Did you know computer used to be a job? Computer was not like I I don't need to grock this, right? Like you guys can just believe me, I hope. Um is computer used to be somebody who literally computes things. It was not a machine. It was a person and it has shifted from that into becoming a machine. What do you how many scribes do you think that there were before we invented the printing press? How many people do you think were mailmen before we had internet and the email? How many people do you think uh you know were blacksmiths for making horseshoes and you know husbandry you know like uh you know horse wranglers and you know breeders and [ __ ] like that whenever you needed to ride horses around. How many people do you think that we needed to I don't know like let me think of some more examples. Oh yeah, shovel coal into a uh into a train when it's moving and like you know like run trains, gunsmiths, etc. Milking cows, right? All of these things. So all there's never been a single instance in all of recorded human history that we've ever Yeah. Sewing. Yeah. Imagine what it was like without sewing machines. For example, a cotton gin, milk, etc. All jobs no one wants to do. Well, again, I don't think you can say that no one wants to do it. Are you going to say every artist wants to be an artist? I'm sure there's some artists that might want to do something else, but they're stuck being an artist because that's what makes the most money. I think that logically you could assume that, but there is a perception that being an artist is some form of a uh like a luxury job. I think that's it. Uh Photoshop is cheating. Exactly. Weaving fabric. Innovation. Yes. Innovation and the advances of technology always kill jobs. It always kills jobs and you can look at it over and over and over. Do you think MT will fix the placeholders and the AI stuff? There's going to be soft big creators just funnels uh players in general. I don't think that it really matters. Like if I was them, I think that the problem is that they have to be direct and honest with the people that they're working with, right? Because that transcends any sort of business practice that is the practice of business, right? So like if you're lying to people that you're working with, you're just being a piece of [ __ ] So that should be something that they obviously shut down and they don't let happen. The same things are said about AI that was said about the Substance Painter texturing program that's now standard and Photoshop before that, which is the industry standard. Yeah. And I think that again, it's people that are trying, there's a lot of people inside of the creative industry that have a lot of social media credibility and social media clout that are trying to manufacture an artificial consensus against AI so they can keep their job security. That's the reason why they're doing this. There is no like these would be the same people that would be laughing and patronizing a bluecollar worker and telling them learn to code. But now that AI is coding and you tell them learn to uh learn to weld, well now somehow this is a huge problem that's affecting the environment and we need to have a solution for it and you're evil if you don't agree with me. I think it's [ __ ] It's total [ __ ] Yep. The learn the coders. Exactly. So the issue with advancement is that it won't create a chain of jobs afterwards. Well, that's not the the goal of advancing something is not to create jobs. It's to create a product. A a business is not responsible for creating jobs. That's that's not the way it works. A business exists to create a product and jobs are a byproduct of creating the product. Like it this is it. How do people not understand this? So nowadays you just code less or you adapt. Easy. Yes. And any company that is refusing AI is the stinky poo poo, all of this stuff, right? All this [ __ ] Voice actor, another person, right? There is nothing you can do to stop this. There's nothing you can do. It doesn't matter how many likes you get. It doesn't matter how many people agree with you. These companies and the the companies that you that you don't know are using AI are probably still using AI. And that's the difference. It's inevitable. It is. It's completely inevitable. I'm done with voice acting is correct. Yeah, exactly. What's the value of lives if non-living is replacing it? I mean, I don't think you need to get like I mean, do you really need to become so abstract that you're saying that? I mean, what I'm saying is that if you can automatically generate an image, then people are going to want to use that instead of paying somebody, right? It's like what I said earlier, right? I mean, if I can generate an image of a night in the style of World of Warcraft, well, wow, that was really fast. I'm just instantly able to do this. So why would you want to pay somebody for something like this instead? The water usage argument is [ __ ] too. Data systems use a closed system that may fail once in a while. I don't know about the water usage. I have no idea about it. Then how do we get our money if we eventually use our jobs to innovation? Everything relies on money to survive. Well, that's fine. But if you're relying on money to survive, then your focus should be with the government, not with a company. A company's responsibility is not to take care of you. It is two groups of people's responsibilities to take care of you. It's your it's your responsibility and your community and to a broader extent your government's responsibility to take care of you. So really the the company has no obligation to take care of you unless they signed a contract with you or something like that. Chatter's wrong. Water's legit. That goes with everything. Yeah. Windmills make microplastics. Yeah, I guess so. and uh tell it to the homeless. Well, I mean, yeah, either way, right? And uh let me see here. In uses Gen AI in their game. It's funny that you say that. The whole AI at this point, it wouldn't be surprised, you know, the character designs were made by AI. I think that there are a lot of instances where you do have people that use character designs made by AI or at least they are informed originally from AI and sold the shot from weathering and you and you ran with it. It's AI taken again. Dead ass zero, weathering waves and cut scenes like this. I I don't even know what this is, but let me go back and scroll down and find this. NTE installed already. 3D characters based off 2D AI designs. That's a dealbreaker. I don't even think that they said that. It seems like that's total [ __ ] So, yeah. I mean, again, game she was working on. There it is. Can't tell if it's an anime or AI. Yeah, exactly right. Workers need AI for information, especially at SSA. Well, here here's my point, right? is that it doesn't matter how much complaining, crying, malding, getting upset, or anything else that people do. You're not changing this. AI is the future. It's going to be used by every single company whether you like it or not. And I understand that there's some people that want to, you know, like fight against it, but I think that they're doing this, and this is the important thing that I want to say is that the people that are fighting against AI, I think, are doing so for selfish reasons. I think that they are. I I I don't think this is some sort of like uh, you know, morality thing or, you know, ecological thing. I think that even if AI consumed no water, even if AI consumed uh, you know, no energy at all, I think they would still be complaining about it the exact same way that they are now because fundamentally it is an existential threat to their influence and their existence. And that's the reason why they don't like AI. And it has nothing to do with water. It has nothing to do with energy. It has everything to do with jobs. And it has everything to do with money. That's what I think. I'll read a few more of the comments about this. And so anyway, AI Bros. Empathy because it's everywhere, which it actually isn't true. There's plenty there's plenty of games and media that are fantastic without the use of Gen AI. Oh man. Oh, I got bad news. Oh, I got bad news. Let me go back. I'm going to pull this up and and I'll show you something. Based on reports of J April 2026, Jason Shrier has stated almost every big studio is currently using generative AI tools behind the scenes. Man, they're all doing it. Not true. I would I mean again Jason Shrier is a like I think that his opinions on things are are wrong and I think that he's I think he's wrong about like pretty much everything that he says like his opinions but this isn't an opinion. This is just simply a factual statement. I think that's what's happening. I do. I think that's exactly what's happening. It's a competitive market. Yeah, exactly. And uh what is this? How does Jason have such infinite information for all these companies? Because he's been a he's been Jason Shrier is probably the most wellrespected games journalist that is inside of print media. Like I mean I would say there's a few other people that are relatively wellresected, but he's probably the highest profile, most well-known and the person that most people would know. Jason's a fraud. Yeah. But I think that they're all big. He's the he's the the smallest fraud and the biggest person, right? I mean, that's really about it. Not anymore. Well, I don't know who else would be besides that. So, and uh who? Yeah. I mean, I'm not saying the guy's super popular. I'm just saying that inside of I'm surprised I'm getting any push back for this. Yeah, he's a really popular games journalist and so he's interacted with people inside of the field for years and he knows this because he's interacted with them and he's giving his firsthand experience based off of what people have told him who are his sources and I think that he's been right about other things in the past previous to this, right? Like Jason Shrier has been able to he's posted and said things that ended up being leaked later on that were true. So anyway, every company is doing this. Isn't that funny? And then this is again I I think this is the the funny thing about it, right? Is that uh you know Iron Mouse in the new Hongkey Gotcha game and then they're literally hiring people to do AI stuff, right? Job responsibility, the exploration of use of AI tools and 2D art production, highquality art that aligns with the project's art style requirements. Yep, there you go. AIGC, midjourney, stable, the fusion, dolly, etc. Right. So, this is literally I mean this is this is the same thing, right? They're hiring people to do this right now. The W picture you generated looks pretty [ __ ] cool. Companies would be dumb to not use AI. Yeah, definitely. And are we even surprised that it's almost always Western players to make a huge big deal out of nothing? The situation is delicate. While the issue originated in Asia and was actually received fairly positively there, it is now escalated to the point to where forums in China and Japan are discussing the controversy being stirred up by the West over what may consider a minor issue. And this is the other big issue is that like well actually let me use the bathroom and then I'll I'll talk about it a little more. Give me a second. All right, I'm back. Excuse me. We good. We good. All right. This Asmon's AI, he actually hasn't streamed in months. If as soon as, bro, as soon as I can turn on the bot, as soon as I can do the auto clicker stream, oh my god, bro. Like, I'm going on vacation. I'm relaxing. I'm chilling. Everything is [ __ ] fine. It's going to be great. Like, y'all never going to see me again. You be like, damn. Like, wait, I thought I saw this guy. Wait, why is he in Hawaii? I thought I was watching your stream five minutes ago. [ __ ] It might that might already be the case. You're going to pull a Quubble Cop on us. I will, but I wouldn't say it. I would just one day I would run an AI. I actually have already strategized how I'm going to do this. I've already remember what I said before about the animal thing. I I've already thought this whole thing out, okay? So, just keep that in mind. Don't worry. Anyway, stream with remote desktop. Maybe. What do you think? AI will struggle to replace. AI will struggle primarily to replace um the more create like the more creative that you have to be with solutions to problems, the more resilient your job will be to AI replacement. But I do think and and here's another big component is that inside of Western culture, Western culture has been astrourfed to think that AI is really bad. That doesn't exist in the rest of the world. I'm sure other parts of the world don't like AI for different reasons and some people share these same sentiments, but it seems to me that the anti- AI sentiment is overwhelmingly a western sentiment, right? Non non-re repeatable functions. Yeah. I mean, basically, right? And so, uh, comedy, it's like comedy. Psych work for now. Yeah. Psych work. Exactly. And, um, anyway, the rest of the world wants to slow us down. Rust belt mechanics are safe for a while. I'd agree with that. So anyway, I'll go through the rest of this. I don't even know if this is an official account, so I don't think it really matters. So Pokemon of the V tubing space calls her Pokemon of Vubing. When are you going to publicly denounce the Neurosama? I think that fundamentally if you are against AI, you would view Neurosama and Veto as a bad actor. I I can't see a rationalization for why Neurosama is okay, but generative AI in video games is not okay. I I don't It's not the same. Why not? Let me I'll pull somebody up. I haven't pulled anybody up today. Why not? This is literally an LLM. Yeah. Well, what is Neurosama for us millennial retards? Neurosama is an AI girl. This is Neurosama. She is an AI generated girl by an engineer named Veto. I think it's like 987 or something like that. and he has created this uh this AI girl that he streams with and has continued to iterate on and to make her more uh you know interesting and compelling to people. That's basically what's happened. Neurosama is the goat. Yeah. Neuro and and also like the channel is like ridiculously popular. Like people really really like it. Like it it recently broke the record for largest hype train ever. Right. Yeah. Most brutal. So this is this is Neurosama from 2 years ago. So this isn't even her at full power. AI Vtuber Neurosama Rose Asminagold's gaming setup during a PC review stream. Okay. Wow. With a setup like this, I'm surprised any gaming gets done between archaeology digs through ancient cup civilizations. But hey, if insects ever run out of places to live, at least they know where to go for a five-star experience. No, they don't. And what's with the blank for aesthetic trying to bring back childhood memories or hide the chaos from the outside world? She's good. She knows. Bless your heart. We both know the only streaming happening here is the continuous flow of soda spills on the carpet. No, that's I never spill soda. I never do. I've never spilled sodas for room. Yeah, right. I mean, the blanket thing was like uh that was a bit too much, man. Do you like Asmin Gold, the king of baldness? I don't really like him. He makes my skin crawl. I didn't see that part. Okay, that's new. Yeah, there you go. And so it it's cringe. I It baffled me how people like this. I think that people like the novelty of it and they like the It's such a unique odd experience that I think it's compelling for people. It was created without taking things without permission. So, so let me get this straight and I'm going to give you I'm going to give you a real question. Do you think that if a company paid a bunch of artists to create a datab bank that they could then use for generative AI? Like for example, like they paid a voice artist to use their voice and then you know like they said we're going to AI generate your voice from now on and then they fired them. Do you think that those people would be mad about it? Because I think they'd still be mad about it. I do. I think they'd still be angry about it because fundamentally, I don't think it has anything to do with taking things without permission. Because here's also another thing is that you are going to find literally thousands of instances of copyright infringement that people that are VTubers use all the time in their content. Whether it's them playing copyrighted music, whether it's them playing video games that they don't have a license to play. And by the way, if you get into the details, fair use is a defense, but it's a it's not a proactive defense. So, you could still get sued for playing a video game. This I know it sounds crazy, but it's true. So, how is it like am I supposed to believe that these people are these, you know, like super uh caring people about copyright law? Do am I really supposed to expect that? Like am I am I really going to believe that? Absolutely not. Also regarding copper infringement. Let me see this here. Can I find it? And uh yes, in case it already happened two years ago on techn if they forced them into it if they protest. Yes. Let me go back. I'll see this here. Is this the copyright? My brother's eyes are gone. Oh yeah. And this is all AI. Yeah. What the [ __ ] It only got better, by the way. Yeah. And this was two years ago. That's pretty funny. Keep that in mind. two years ago. 2023. Oh, no. I know is I just now I see Iron Mouse is sweating. I mean, I I don't think that it's really uh direct competition in that case, but yeah. And so anyway, um AI is the future. Anybody complaining about AI or anything like that is just really wasting their time. No idea how much AI generated slop I was looking at. Again, all these people that are doing this, that are posting on Twitter, etc. There's nothing that you can do about it. Iron Man's literally just envious and worried about herself getting replaced. I I'm not I'm not saying that. I mean, people can say that if they want. That's not what I think is going on, but uh anyway, like it's funny. The outrage is exclusive to art and gaming. Other industries use AI massively, like telecom, and we can deliver new features for phones each year. Exactly. And that's what I think is very interesting is that the only people that are going out there and crying about this are people that are inside of art and entertainment industries. And I think that's very unfair. It's unfair that their that their job is protected while everybody else's job gets removed. It's totally unfair. Why is it okay that you know some other person gets replaced but you aren't allowed to be replaced? It's virtue signaling. Exactly. No one's saying graphic designers. Yeah. And uh Gen AI is different. I don't think Gen AI is different. I I feel like why is why is Gen AI fund? Well, I I'll pull a couple people up and I I'll I'll listen to some of these arguments, right? Why is Gen AI different? Like I I want you to explain it to me. I I'm I'm Let's We're We're going to work through this. You do realize China is trying to put laws to make it illegal to fire and replace employees with AI? Of course. I mean, a lot of everybody is trying to make a rule to stop. First, I want to say I don't give a [ __ ] about AI, but I I I get why people think it's different, but you know that it's not different, right? cuz like I don't want to have a devil's advocate argument. Like if if you understand that it's not different and that it's doesn't really matter then like why even spend the time doing it? But like if you really think that then I I I'll I'll engage with But there's tools and [ __ ] that people tend to be okay with. I don't care what people are okay with. I care what makes sense. I know that people have opinions on things. Uh it's come around to getting sh getting it from art friends. I I don't know what you mean by that. Gen AI is not different as AI is essentially all Geni. It's all Transformers. Mouse cares about generative AI cuz she have a relationship with artists. So, it wouldn't make sense that she would be upset about it. Yeah. But like here's here's what I'm saying, right? Is that I think that every stream on Twitch commits blatant and obvious violations of copyright law every single day on like a minute-to-minute basis. Whenever you're showing copyrighted content on your stream, like for example, the music that I'm playing, like there I don't have a license to play this music. Like I'm just playing the music. So this is effectively like a gray area that you would have to go to court to resolve. Like if you're playing Spotify and there's a reactions, too. Yeah. A reaction like I could say it's fair use, but that's something that I would have to prove in court. So what's your opinion on AI music? I think AI anything is totally fine. The Okay, so this is the thing that I have a problem with. I have a problem with AI that's being used to deep fake people. I think translation coding is something I use, but when it comes to companies coming artist stuff, people get upset. People get upset like that they're goyam. Those are goyam that are getting upset. Are are are you really going to are are you you're listening to the the whales of the goyam and you're considering if your righteous path is the wrong one? Are you truly being led astray by the delusional cries of the [ __ ] Are we kidding? You're really going to start this dude? You can't do that. don't want to take them seriously at all. Like, you're definitely a I I'm telling you guys that's probably fair, brother. I know. I know it is. You fundamentally don't understand the argument. Great. I'm glad you're here because I want you to explain it to me then. Good. And we'll do maybe one person after this, but then I want to move on and look at some other stuff, too. No, it's all right. It's all right. I'm not I'm not mad about this. There's no reason like I'm not I'm not upset or angry at anybody. I'm just talking. But I I have to say that like as I said, bro, like ever since the word [ __ ] entered my lexicon, my my entire world has improved. Everything about my life improved. Every negative thing that a person says to me, I just think of them as being [ __ ] I I don't like this like a like, you know, like a lower level, right? It's the final P. Somebody in chess says my credit score went up. I don't have a credit score. Okay, I don't do any credit. I've never done credit. I never want to do credit. I've got plenty of money. I only buy things in cash. Okay, so maybe I'm a [ __ ] But anyway, what is this here? So, so what is the actual argument about this? Thank god Gen AI is cancerous to humanity. That's a great argument. Can you expand on it? Yeah. Okay, that that's nice. You have a credit score where you like it or not? I I've never I don't know what my credit score is. I have no interest in my credit score. I don't like taking out lo I I guess. So, if I ever needed to get money for something, right? Like, let's say I needed $30 million or more realistically, let's say I needed like $80 million. I could just lock that in, bro. Like, you you you I there are guys I would just instantly call and I would be like, "Listen, this is the plan. This is the guy I'm going to work with. This is how we're going to do it. This is the business plan. This is the profit margin. This is what we're going to do." And that's it. Like, there are ways that you do that. So like if if you have money like you do this lone sharks, no there there's privilege. What the [ __ ] Well, no. I mean if you if you work in business, you know people that work in venture capital and they know people that work in venture capital. Like this is something that you regularly do. Like if you work in any degree of entrepreneurship, you know this. It releases soulless and meaningless. Refresh quick. I type fast. I I know maybe you shouldn't. Maybe you should think more about what you're saying. So, you're just simply all you're doing is repeating your um you're repeating your evaluations. I don't think that Gen A is Gen AI is bad. I think that it's good because it allows people that would otherwise not be able to create things be able to create things. So, like I that that that's what my opinion is. I I'll listen to this a little bit more. And also, you said I didn't understand the argument. What part of the argument am I not understanding? That's something that I find to be very odd. Cat's making an emotional appeal. Well, I mean, as I said, it's Yeah, it's mostly women are complaining about this, right? I mean, what do you expect? Uh, let me go. Let's hear it. This guy's a little [ __ ] It's okay. They type so fast. Yeah. I thought you were typing fast, man. What do you mean? Yeah. What is this? Soulless and meaningless is already disproven. Yeah, I think it is, too. says you don't understand the argument does nothing to make the claim. He's inherently wrong. You need human input to make Gen AI. I mean again like let me All right. You've got art is a form of expression and AI replaces expression. AI is a form of expression. Creating something with a prompt is a form of expression. So like I So are you going to say that your expression is like there it's more valid? Right. AI replaces work. Uh AI replacing work replaces function. Yes. Does want to respond to your reply? I know. I know. I get it. No, it's not. It adds without understanding why it's there. Well, it's still expressing what I want it to express, right? So, like if I can use a tool to do something, like Photoshop doesn't know why it's doing something. It just does what I tell it to do. So, if the machine does what I tell it to do, then it's me expressing myself through the machine, right? I mean, I don't see where this isn't just obvious. It's not the same thing. Photoshop doesn't replace the expression. Well, it does. So, like for example, if I can create a gradient, right? Like let's say like I don't have Photoshop here, but like let's say like I want to fill in a red box. Like if I click just the red fill button, that replaces the expression of me having to paint it myself. And there are other types of things like for example how you can apply text uh text generation or you can apply different effects that are being done in an algorithmic way. For example, like adding a shadow to something that is replacing an expression because let me let me listen to what you're saying. Photoshop is a function, not a function. Photoshop is a function. Well, Photoshop is being used. So, uh word art, 3D fonts. Yeah, AI is a function. Like I don't I don't recognize this to be a difference. I don't see AI generating something as being any different than a person creating it with like an inspiration from something else. I just don't see it. You're unttimed out. You can type again. Like I like if if you're using another piece of art as a reference point. AI is a function but with art it replaces the expression. Okay. Well, let's say it does replace the expression. Let's assume that it does. Why is that bad? Why why is that bad? So you you've you've now created like the expression you you have now assigned a value to the idea of this expression. But what about people that don't share that value? Like if I don't feel that that value exists with the expression, then why would I listen to that? It kills the soul. I don't think it kills the soul. I think that there's plenty of soulless slop that's made by people and there's plenty of cool stuff that's made by AI that I like a lot. So I I don't even think that's true. I mean, if you think that if you think AI stuff is soulless, didn't you look at merit? then there's a fundamental misunderstanding. But see what you're framing as a misunderstanding I think is not a misunderstanding because a misunderstanding implies that there is a correct viewpoint and that there is an incorrect viewpoint. I don't think that your viewpoint is incorrect necessarily. I think that it will be proven wrong in the future. Like I think that in the future and I think that even now if you showed a person a bunch of art and you presented it as if it was humanmade, people would really resonate and think that the art is amazing. And then afterwards if you told them it was AI, they would feel tricked. And that's because the emotion comes from a secondary source at modern architecture. Yeah, exactly. Uh look at the wow art you generated. What what about it? Why are why are the things in the background? Well, okay. So, like let's say that's the first draft. Why couldn't I just change the background to make it more interesting? Is it there? Because it's supposed to be there. Well, it just guessed. Yeah. So, here's my point. Like, we're going back and forth about this a lot because like at the end of the day, you are an AI art is soulless, etc. I think that human art is soulless. I think that in a lot of cases, human art is totally soulless. It's slop. It's garbage. It's bad. And I think that this is an artificial distinction. And I think that as AI improves and it gets better, fewer and fewer people will be able to even tell the difference, not to mention recognize and care about the difference. So I I think that we have tons of bad soulless garbage that is made completely with human beings and it's terrible. So that's what my opinion is on it generally whenever someone commissions work. Yeah. Exactly right. And uh that's the way that I feel about it overall. Like obviously it's you know a little bit more complicated than that. But yeah I think that AI is uh AI is definitely you're wrong. I it's not a matter of being wrong. You you you're not understanding this. This is my value judgment. I'm not I'm not giving you I'm not telling you what you need to think. If you think that AI art is bad, you have every right to think that AI art is bad. But what I am telling you is that if you think AI art is good, nobody who thinks it's bad has a right to tell you that it's bad. Does that make sense? This is my opinion. They've always said art is in the eye of the beholder, right? And so what about that? It's a different tool. Yeah. And your opinion is that of a non-art and that's okay. Well, yeah. I mean, obviously it's my op like I mean I I've done some I've you know painted some things and done some things but yeah generally no. I'm not an artist. Like I I used to do a lot of animation. I I did but like that was about it. So yeah. Um, I I think that I think again I cannot wait I cannot [ __ ] wait for 5 years from now where I can go down the list of every virtue signaling person that wanted to talk about how they wouldn't take an AI sponsorship from a game and I want to wait until a game that they come out with or that they're involved with is AI made because I think that it's going to be because I think this is the nature of the way things are done now. That's it. Entertainment art is entertainment. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I guess so. Who told us Picaco Picasso or anything else was good? It's ridiculous. Yeah, exactly. I'd argue being a creator is a form of art. Well, I mean, I think that he obviously means that I'm not I'm not I'm not an like an illustrator, right? I'm not drawing things. So, I mean, yeah, sure. But, uh, that that's what I think. You see, just next time they pick up a sponsorship for Marvel Rifles. Yeah, definitely.