Something wild just happened

Asmongold TV| 00:49:08|Mar 24, 2026
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Kent announces his resignation from the director position at the national counterterrorism center and aims to ensure all details are covered.

Asmongold weighs in on Joe Kent’s shocking resignation and the Iran war debate, flagging contradictions and demanding a clearer explanation for the 180 in his views.

Summary

Asmongold examines Joe Kent’s sudden resignation from a counterterrorism leadership role and the fiery, controversial statement that followed. He notes the post’s viral reach and discusses Kent’s claim that Iran isn’t an imminent threat and that the US fought a war for Israel’s interests. Throughout, Asmongold contrasts Kent’s veteran status and patriotism with what he sees as inconsistent positions on Israel, Iran, and Middle East policy. He pushes for an explicit explanation of Kent’s shift in stance, especially givenKent’s past calls to confront Iran and support for aggressive action. The conversation weaves in broader U.S. political dynamics, debates about “imminent threat,” and whether negotiations or preemptive strikes are preferable. Viewers get a sense of how quickly online discourse spirals into deep geopolitical arguments, with multiple commenters offering competing narratives about 2015–2024 policy decisions, nuclear enrichment, and foreign aid. In short, the clip captures a heated, tangled moment where loyalty, ideology, and strategic judgment collide. Asmongold emphasizes the need for clarity from Kent while acknowledging the difficulty of reconciling longstanding beliefs with recent statements. The piece ultimately foregrounds how personal narrative and political framing shape public interpretation of military action in the Middle East.

Key Takeaways

  • Joe Kent announced his resignation from the National Counterterrorism Center in a post that drew tens of millions of views and sparked intense online debate.
  • Kent asserted that Iran posed no imminent threat and implied the US war with Iran was driven by Israel and its American lobby.
  • Asmongold voices confusion over Kent’s sudden reversal, arguing that a 180-degree shift requires a clear, public explanation.
  • The discussion touches on the credibility of intelligence assessments, with references to enrichment levels (60% vs 90%) and IAEA inspections as points of contention.
  • There’s a recurring theme about whether preemptive action or negotiation is preferable, with participants debating the costs of war and the strategic leverage involved.
  • The dialogue shows how fans and critics interpret patriotism, loyalty, and policy expertise when a public figure shifts positions on high-stakes foreign policy.
  • There’s skepticism about whether personal relationships or external pressures (alliances, media narratives) are driving Kent’s stance, highlighting how complex public explanations can be.

Who Is This For?

Essential viewing for viewers who follow U.S. foreign policy debates, veterans’ viewpoints, and political commentary on Israel-Iran dynamics. It’s especially relevant for fans of Asmongold who want a blunt, insider-style read on a controversial resignation and the rhetoric around interventionism.

Notable Quotes

""I cannot in good conscience support the ongoing war in Iran. Iran posed no imminent threat to our nation.""
Kent’s resignation statement centers on his claim there was no imminent threat from Iran.
""There is a clear path to swift victory. this was a lie and the same tactic the Israelis used to draw us into the disastrous Iraq war.""
Kent accuses foreign lobbying and misinformation of misleading U.S. policy.
""The time for bold action is now. Can you reverse course and chart a new path for our nation?""
A direct appeal from Kent’s statement calling for policy change.
""Iran has been after Trump since January of 2020 after he ordered the targeted killing of Kasam Solamani.""
The transcript references ongoing debates about Iran’s threat and U.S. actions.
""You hold the cards. The time for bold action is now.""
A recurring call-to-action vibe in the discussion around policy shifts.

Questions This Video Answers

  • Why did Joe Kent resign from the counterterrorism center and what did his statement imply about Iran?
  • What does ‘imminent threat’ mean in U.S. foreign policy debates, and why does it matter for decisions to go to war?
  • How do enrichment levels (60% vs 90%) affect perceptions of Iran's nuclear ambitions and the JCPOA?
  • Did Iran’s nuclear program actually justify preemptive action, according to contemporary intelligence and IAEA findings?
  • What are the political risks of changing one’s stance on Iran and Israel after years of advocating a hardline approach?
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Full Transcript
So Joe Kent today put out a statement and he is resigning from his position as a counterterrorism uh I guess like leadership role, right? I don't know what what the specific role is, but I want to make sure that I have all these lined up first. Okay. And okay, this should be everything, right? Let me make sure and scroll all the way down that way I don't miss anything. I have not. Okay, good. All right. So anyway, so he made this statement here and this was the original post he made and this post has gotten a tremendous amount of attention, right? Obviously the guy's a patriot. Uh I disagree with his outlook, but he is a patriot. He is a veteran and he should be respected as much. 50 million views. Okay, a lot of people have watched this. After much reflection, I have decided to resign from my position as director of national care counterterrorism center effective today. I cannot in good conscience support the ongoing war in Iran. Iran posed no imminent threat to our nation. It is now it is clear that we started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby. It has been my honor serving over president of the United States under Tulsi Gabbard leading to the professionals at NTSC. And so here it is national uh national counterterrorism center. I've decided to resign from my position. I cannot in good conscience. Let's see here. I support the values of the foreign policies you campaigned on 2016, 2020, 2024, which you enacted your first term. Until June 2025, you understood that wars in the Middle East were a trap that robbed Americans of the precious lives of our patriots and depleted wealth and prosperity in our nation. And uh in our first administration, you understood better than any modern president how to decisively apply military power without getting us drawn to never- ending wars. You demonstrated this by killing Kasam Solammani and by defeating ISIS. Early in the administration, high-ranking Israeli officials and influential members of the American media deployed misinformation campaign who uh that wholly undermined your America first platform and swed pro-war sentiments to encourage a war with Iran. This echo chamber was used to deceive you into believing that Iran posed an imminent threat to the United States and you should strike now. There is a clear path to swift victory. this was a lie and the same tactic the Israelis used to draw us into the disastrous Iraq war which is that is crazy to say that the Israelis not only is it Iran but it's also the Iraq war in the in the past too uh cost us the lives of thousands of our best men and women we cannot make this mistake again as a veteran who's deployed to combat 11 times and as a gold star husband who lost my beloved wife Shannon in a war manufact this is insane in a war manufactured by Israel I cannot support sending the next generation off to fight and die in a war that serves no benefit to the American people, nor justifies the cost of American lives. I pray you reflect on what we're doing at Iran and who we are doing it for. The time for bold action is now. Can you reverse course and chart a new path for our nation and allow us to slip further into decline and chaos? You hold the cards. So, this is massive. It's huge. So, this guy dropping out, a lot of people are calling this out. It's very, very controversial. Now, this is, in my opinion, the first time that an official has actually dropped out of anything very big and cited in just plain English that Israel, America is acting in the best interests of Israel and also that America is going to war for Israel. That's it. I think that's you. The guy's a traitor. I don't think he's a traitor. I disagree with his analysis. I think he's wrong. And I think that he was also more than okay with fighting like let me see if I can find a few more of these comments here, right? Because there were other ones too. And where is it here? This is Biden criticized Israel. I stand firmly with Israel against Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iranian. And so this is in 20121. So like I don't see how you can put this out there but then not want to get rid of Iran. Like I don't see how these two values can coexist. I don't see how you can think that Iran, Hezbollah, and Hamas, Islamism is a threat to Western civilization, but at the same time, you don't want to do that. People say he leaks intelligence. That's what people said is that he leaked intelligence. There's more to the joke meets the eye, according to friends. Apparently, Joe leaked intelligence under the nose of the Secretary of War. Now, this is I mean, again, Buzz Patterson, some random guy. I mean, who the knows whether he knows what he's talking about, right? He's not stepping down due to his allegiance and integrity. He's being forced to leave. Uh I don't think that's what happened because if it was, I think Trump would have said that. But yeah, my speculation is that he's the one leaking to Tucker and that's how Tucker got pulled in. His hate for Israel is stronger than his love for freedom and oppression. Maybe he changed his mind once he got in a position of power. I don't know. Like the the reality is that we can't know. like you you have no idea. And so I'll read some of the other ones too, right? Uh Perez voted to leave our troops in Iraq and Syria and voted against funding the VA so wounded vets can't uh receive the care they wanted. Perez voted against assisting Israel. So this is again so now he's criticizing somebody for not voting for helping Israel. And this is before Oh no, this is right after October 7th, right? So butchered and took US hostages. So we have another one here. The Gaza Strip is controlled by Hamas. This is 2021. So, uh, by a terrorist organization that calls for the death of all Jews. Anyone that says Israel is a terrorist state is out of touch with reality. Uh, Hamas and Islamic jihad would commit would commit mass genocide against the Jews if given the chance. Now again, I I I think you should respect this guy as a patriot, but how the can you do both of these things? How the can two h how the can you say that Islamism, Hamas, Iran, and Hezbollah are threats that we should help Israel get rid of, but also not want to do it? I don't understand how you can have both of these values. That's very confusing to me. And I don't I have not read a single explanation that can reconcile these values in a way that makes sense to me. He says not imminent threat. What? So you should only do something if they're an imminent threat. Shouldn't you do something before that? Like that's just in my opinion that's what I would do, right? If I saw that some crazy was going on, then I would say, "Well, Let's stop this before it gets worse." That's my opinion. That's what I think. I think that's obviously what you should do. So his new wife changed him. That's stupid logic. Exactly. So I don't understand how he can think that some places are afraid of war. I don't think he's afraid of like he's been deployed in combat 11 times. The guy's not afraid of war. So, I don't think that's at all that's true at all. And this is him. Iran has been after Trump since January of 2020 after he ordered the targeted killing of the terrorist Kasam Solamani. This isn't a new threat. The Secret Service is constantly failing to secure Trump is new. So, now he's basically bringing up I don't know if this is whenever Trump uh you know that assassination attempt happened, but like there's very there's very clearly a problem here, right? And I don't I I don't know how you can square these two things. I don't understand at all. And here's more comments that he's made, too. Trump's restraint shows he wants to deal with Iran, and his red line is American loss of life and Iran nuke development. So, this is what I find to be so odd is that Joe Kent can literally say his red line is American loss of life and Iran nuke development. Iran said they're building nukes and they also killed Americans on October 7th. That was six years ago. Yeah. I mean, do you think that the nukes are going to expire? How does that work? Do you see what I'm saying here? I'm very confused by this. And uh I personally think I personally think that we should have crushed their ballistic and nuke capabilities, but Trump has a plan. He definitely earned the confidence of any cleareyed observer. October 7th happened because Biden and Harris gave Iran access to over a hundred billion dollars. So there it is again. So this is extremely you can't change your mind. I guess I have no problem with him changing his mind, but I do have a problem with him not explaining what the change is coming from. Do you understand that? So I don't think it's an issue like him saying, "Okay, well this is what I used to think and now I don't think that anymore because of, you know, X, Y, and Z." But like whenever you do a complete 180 for something, I would expect to get some sort of explanation for it, especially with something that's such a large existential threat like Iran making nuclear bombs. Like holy That's like the biggest possible thing. Whatever changed his mind is 100% classified. It is. But like here's what isn't classified. Iran saying that they had 60% enriched uranium. They said that themselves. In order to use it for energy, you need 3 to 5% at the most. Why the is it at 60%. It's because they're trying to make a bomb. So, how can you think that? And that this is all out in the public. This isn't like a secret. It's not like I didn't read this on 4chan. Uh this is what the Iranian government themselves is saying. So the Iranian government says that the uh the international atomic agency says that or whatever the hell they are the IAEA and then also the American. So basically everybody that has any understanding of this all says they're trying to make nuclear weapons, right? Every single thing points in that direction. But for some reason now and and this is something even he said that we should stop them from doing that. And he's even like obviously going to bat here for Israel too. Like and in in my opinion, I think this is very extreme, right? This is an extremely like aggressive stance against it. How can you go from this to saying that Israel got us in into this war and we shouldn't get into the war with Iran? Like I I don't understand how you can have these values. They seem absolutely contradictory. I don't see how you can reconcile these two realities. 5 years later, by the way. Yeah, exactly. No one's ever lied about their capabilities before. Well, okay. So, so this is the problem though, right? Is that so so much shit's happened between now and then? Isn't it crazy to make you see? What do you think? So, like I just man Okay, let me think about this. All right, so you said nobody's ever lied about their capabilities. The United States also said this and the IAEA like here, let me ask you a question. Why do you think that they were building the nuclear factories underneath a mountain? Why do you think they were doing that? Just, you know, if you had to guess. This was September of last year. It takes weeks to get to 90%. Oh, September of this year. Today, we have reached an advanced level in uranium enrichment. While countries aiming to develop nuclear rippons uh enriched uranium up to 90%, we have limited ours to 60 because we have no need for such weapons and we have not intended to pu pursue nuclear weapons. Yeah. It takes weeks to get to 60 to 90% from there. Yeah. To build nukes. Okay. So, so then so we're this is what's so confusing to me. So then why would you even bring this up? No one's ever lied about their capabilities. If if everybody This is the weird like I I I don't I don't understand this. Everybody, we're all in agreement. They're trying to build nuclear bombs. What are we doing? Why are we trying to pretend like this isn't what's happening? Mental gymnastics to fit a narrative, I guess. So, uh I don't get this at all. So, why are you arguing with retards? Because there's nobody else. I I don't get this at all. Yes. And and it's just it's just crazy for me to see this. I I don't get it, man. It drives me crazy to see this. So anyway, I think obviously um I think he's totally wrong about this. I think that this goes against everything that he had said literally for years following this. And I think that it makes no sense that you want to get rid of You think Iran's trying to make a nuclear weapon. You think Hamas are terrorists. You think that they would commit a genocide if they could. You think that, you know, Islamism is a threat to Western civilization. You think all this stuff, but you don't think that we should stop it at the source. That's really confusing to me. It is. That's extremely confusing. I don't get it. Makes no sense. Yeah. So, tell us why he's stepping down if he's lying. I don't know why he's stepping down, but I think it's very confusing. That's the reason why. I just don't think the guy changing his mind is that crazy. Okay. Well, let me let me ask you. So, this is the same person. Why do you think it wouldn't be crazy? Like, I mean, I I I don't What could be the impulse that would cause him to change his mind that would make sense? I think he's just worried about a forever war. Well, like wouldn't it make sense that the sooner that you get rid of Iran's leadership, the lower the probability of a forever war is because right now they're already weakened from protests and also from previous bombings. But who knows where they're going to be in 6 months? Who knows where they're going to be in 2 years? So, wouldn't it make sense to kick them while they're down? I think it would. I think it would make a lot of sense. I think that makes perfect sense to me. It's only been three weeks. Yeah, true. So, like, cuz to me, I I don't understand this at all. Maybe he's against sucking Israel's dick. That's the only thing that makes sense to me. But he's making other comments that are very positive about Israel, right? Voted against assisting Israel. He's talking about Israel again. Criticized Israel when they were under attack. I mean, like, he's talking about Israel positively as well. You've changed your mind, too. Weren't you against the war in Iran some years ago? Yeah, I was. But, and the thing is that if I'm speaking personal, I've used a lot 5 years ago. I don't think someone can be locked on one line of thinking for eternity. So, here's the difference, right? I agree with you. I think that you're right about that. I think that's totally a fair position to have. Here's where I have a problem with it. If you can't reconcile the reason why you've changed your viewpoint, then I think that it's going to be confusing for a lot of people. I think it's extremely It is. It's extremely confusing and like there's no explanation that's provided. Now, the odds are that the reason why he's not providing an explanation is because it's probably classified for some reason or other, right? So, and it's understandable definitely and maybe he can't. That's what I think it is too. So, uh and the reason why I changed my mind on it here, it's very simple. Uh it's because number one, it seems like Trump knows how to execute military strategy better than Biden did and also better than Bush and Obama did. That's the reason why we were able to get Maduro and also blow up their nuclear facility. Nobody even knew about it. Nobody got killed, right? And so that's that's one big reason. The second reason, too, is uh that Iran is weak in a way that they weren't weak 2 years ago. So like if you've if you've already had the entire country on the brink of destruction from a protest, that's a totally different scenario than if it's just another day and they still have the same power that they had. But they've already been weakened dramatically based off of the protests and all the fires and everything that's gone down. They had to shut down. And the thing is that it's so obvious that it got out of control because they literally turned off their internet to kill everybody. Like they wouldn't have turned off their internet to kill everybody in order if it wasn't a a a critical thing. It was very obviously a critical like situation for Iran. And there's also that you also have um as soon as Russia ends the war with Ukraine and as soon as that happens the probability of Russia assisting Ukraine will increase dramatically or sorry assisting not assisting Ukraine obviously uh assisting Iran will increase dramatically because obviously Iran sells them drones. So if you also are attacking them whenever a strategic ally of theirs is distracted, this is like the perfect time to attack. You have obviously a consolidation of power. You have as much political capital as you're ever going to get to do it. You have the country that's destabilized. You have uh other militia groups that are in the area that are trying to take over. You have uh Iran uh you know what do you call it? Iran saying that they're going to build a nuclear bomb having nuclear bombs. Like all of these things together I think fit together to make a pretty good argument for doing it. You see what I'm saying? It's a hosemad situation. His new wife has got to him. I I don't want to I I don't know if that's true or not, but that's my position on this. It is. I'll read a few comments. And uh they just wanted to save uh Iranians off your broadcast. Maybe. I don't know. Access of terror groups disbanded. There will never be a better time. And it's leverage against ch Russia and China. Now it is. It's massive Russia. It's massive leverage, excuse me, against Russia and China. Yeah, that's what I meant to say. And uh this joke can't fail to see the bigger picture of things. It's about oil control. Well, I don't know. I mean, like again, I just I I I hope that he can come out and explain why he has seemingly to me 180ed totally 180ed his perspective on this because I can't reconcile these comments with this statement. I can't I'm not going to say he's being paid to you. Yeah, exactly. To me, I think a lot of people feel this way. I don't think this is unreasonable. He's a patriot. You can be a patriot, but it can still be wrong. Not everybody that disagrees with you is evil. Like this whole idea that everybody who disagrees with you is like an evil demon that wants to destroy the country is not true. There are a lot of people that have good intentions, but they go about them in bad ways that you can think are problematic. That doesn't mean that they're bad people or evil people. It just means that their perspective is wrong. That's really it. I mean, I I don't think that you have to get angry at the guy, but I just don't see how this makes sense. Again, you can defend Israel's right to exist, but point out that Israel lobbying has a massive influence on political decisions. I don't think it's that crazy of a turn, honestly based. Um, well, what does that have to do with Iran making a nuclear weapon and then potentially using it to destabilize the region? He couldn't have won 80s cuz the older comments contrary to new ones. Yeah, I think that's what a 180 is. Yeah, usually it's going in the opposite direction, right? Because it's like the exact opposite, you know, side. And so Iron War is benefiting Russia by over hund00 million a day. The Iran war is benefiting Russia. You think the Iran war is benefiting Russia? Why do you think it's benefiting Russia? I'm kind of curious about this. This is this is a new one. I haven't heard this before. How's it benefiting Russia to have one of their main allies get totally incapacitated? That's like sending them drones. Oil. Trump removed tariffs on oil, my brother. Yeah. How's that going to help them win over in Ukraine? How's that going to happen? It's not. Yeah, they're going to make some more money in the short term. You're right. And it's okay to do that because it's more important to get rid of Iran now and deal with Russia later. You can't fight a war on two fronts. There's no reason for us to try to do that with Russia and Iran at the same time. We're basically paying them off to not interfere with the Iran war. That's obviously what's happening. It's it's obvious that's what's happening. So why like there's very clearly a strategy here. Like in in my opinion, I think that's a good idea. Like that's what I would do. I've been saying that you're basically pals with Russia. Not really. But like I I can see what you're saying with the oil thing. But uh what is this here? Russia 100% benefits from uh because less goes to Ukraine right now. They're doing well in Ukraine. Really? Uh because I actually read recently that the uh uh Ukraine territory. What is it here? Um uh I like I I I think that that's not even true. Uh what's this here? Like gathered like uh controlled. Let me see I can show this gains. Yeah. Like my understanding. Can I pull this up and show this? So yeah, I think this might be it. Ukraine. This is in this is two day literally two days ago. This is two days ago. two days ago is new to me. Yeah. Doesn't mean you think you're smarter than him. I I didn't say that he was stupid. I never said that he was stupid. But I don't like You're not going to get me to just assume that somebody is right whenever they're saying something that makes no logical sense. If there is classified or special information that he knows that I don't know, then I I how how do you like I can't write a blank check? Yeah. I I feel like especially recently, Ukraine has been very aggressive and they've been winning or at least taking back territory. I think this is a lot. Not bad considering America isn't providing any aid. Yeah. Look at that. Holy At what price though? Well, I mean like I don't know like a lot. I mean people like there are thousands of people that are dying in Ukraine. Like you say at what price? Like it's awful. It's terrible. What do you mean? Like I don't even know what people are saying. Of course that's the case. So uh what is this here? President national terrorism. Oh yeah. This is the guy talking about it or Trump talking about this guy. So let me see if I can find this real quick. And I think there's a longer clip for it, too. Okay. Yeah, I'll just use this one. Let me scroll down. Make sure there's no Okay, this is good. Well, I read his statement. I always thought he was a nice guy, but I always thought he was weak on security. Very weak on security. Uh, I didn't know him well, but I thought it seemed like a I do want to say that like how the are you guys doing counterterrorism whenever we've had four terrorist attacks this year already? Like how how do you how do you not have a group going after the people that are like, you know, we're bombing the Teslas, right? Like I mean really like we have such a huge problem with domestic terrorism. What the hell were you doing? Like, and I'm sure that there are probably a thousand problems that they solve that I don't even know about, but like all of the ones that I think are very physically and and just like obviously publicly evident haven't been solved at all. So, I'm sorry, but that doesn't really fill me with a lot of confidence. It doesn't. Nice guy. Um, but when I read a statement, I realized that it's a good thing that he's out because he said that Iran was not a threat. Iran was a threat. Every country realized what a threat Iran was. The question is whether or not they wanted to do something about it. And many people, many of the greatest military scholars are saying for years that president should have taken out Iran because they wanted a nuclear weapon. They were uh if we didn't do the attack or if I'll go a step further. If I didn't terminate the Iran nuclear deal given to us, one of the worst deals ever made by Barack Hussein Obama. Remember when they sent Boeing 757s over there loaded with cash? Hundreds of millions of dollars. You very happy. This was a wonderful. They said hundreds of million. People forget that. Does anybody remember, right? You remember hundreds of millions of dollars in a Boeing 757. I think there two of them loaded. They took the seats out and they put cash and it was so much that there wasn't a bank in Virginia, Maryland or DC that had any money left. They stripped them of all their money, put it into place, sent it to Iran almost as ransom for the Those are the soldiers that got captured. It happened right after that with Trump and nobody ever did anything about nobody ever said anything. Can you imagine if I did that? So, they've been a threat for a long time, but they've really been a threat if if I didn't terminate Obama's horrible deal that he made, the Iran nuclear deal. You would have had a nuclear war four years ago. You would have had you would have had nuclear holocaust, and you would have had it again if we didn't bomb the site. So when somebody is working with us that says they didn't think Iran was a threat, uh we don't want those people because and there are some people I guess that would say that but they're not smart people or they're not savvy people. Iran was a tremendous threat and virtually every NATO nation and this is the thing if they told me it wasn't a threat and therefore they don't want to help. But when they say it was a threat, and it was a major threat, every one of them, I think every one of them, I don't know of one that said they're not a threat, but when they say it was a threat, but we're not going to help. Uh I think it's a little bit weird. Yeah, it's a little bit weird, right? And we're supposed to believe a guy that's a known liar. Well, I believe I Here's what I do, right? Is that I listen to what people say and I make a decision based off of information. So like I'm not believing what a person see this is I I think that a lot of people make think make make decisions like this where you're not really making a decision based off of like what's being said. You're making a decision based off of who's saying it. Shouldn't you be thinking for yourself and making this decision on your own rather than waiting for another person to give you what your opinion is? Because that's the way that I think you should handle it, right? is that like yeah I've got no problem money sent to Iran is uh what is this a I don't know about that and uh yeah what is this here because people lie yeah what is this here scroll up Iran was not a threat the benefit is petro dollar being destroyed bricks is taking over the global reserve currency so so you think we shouldn't attack Iran let me let me explain this all we're going to go through one of these guys and then after that like there's other stuff I want to look at today too you support us pulling out of NATO not entirely but I think it should be discussed and uh makes me feel like superpower having logic seems rare these days. Yeah, I I don't I don't get this. They chant Death to America. That's all you got to tell me. Yeah, exactly. Bricks was 5 years ago. Well, let me let me let's let's see what he's saying. Uh-oh. And then I I'll just pull up one other person that like says like, "You insulted your allies for months. We won't help you now. You're not helping. This is this is the type of like that that is the mentality of like a fifth grader. It's not about helping America. It's about securing a situation where there's not any terrorism that could happen. It it it's not about like you're thinking about this from like a personal honor standpoint. It's not about that. It's about national security. Duh. Of course. Anyway, what's what's the question? Well, what do you say? Do you think that we shouldn't have attacked Iran? Like I'm just I'm just confused by uh like America shouldn't have attacked Iran. Like that's obviously what I'm asking. Let's help ourselves. Yeah, exactly. It's so much emotional messaging. Well, it's more about like kind of well what it I think it's people are not thinking about what is in the best interest. They're thinking about what makes them feel good. And there are a lot of people that make mistakes by doing that. I think it's very common. There are reports Trump is preparing to take full control of the state of Hormuz. That's going to be pretty hard to do. I'm going to be honest. It seems like it will be, but I guess we'll find out. Iran could have been negotiated with. Why do you think Iran could be could have been negotiated with? Why do you think that? What makes you think that? That's what NATO was was saying clearly. Yeah. But I mean like what do you do you really think that like I mean do you think they know what they're talking about? I don't think they know what they're talking about. How's it ever going to Yeah. Have you ever heard don't negotiate with terrorists? He's going to start vague posting. Yeah. What makes you think that we could have negotiated with Iran? Like, let me ask you something. Do you think that there's The only reason to believe there's a threat is Israeli intelligence? This has nothing to do with Israel. I I don't want to hear about what whatever you think about Israel. I don't care about Israel. Uh like if if Iran and Israel wipe each other out, it will make no bearing on my life. Like, I'm an American. My concerns are not in, you know, what what the what the wars in the Middle East are between two Middle Eastern countries. This is not my point. This is not it's not my focus. I don't give a Talking about something else. What makes you think that we we would be able to negotiate with Iran? We negotiate for them for 30 years and all we got was more proxy groups and harassing the world. That's true. Yep. And so we we also have a you know this is the um you know the low-level intelligence. Uh why the do you care about this? And you just went back on your own words. You're going to get permab banned. But I'll answer your question. Uh the reason why is because it will uh grow into a larger problem. That's the reason why it will manifest into a larger problem than it is right now. 9% messages. Yeah, exactly. Like I have no problem. You're very brainwashed on this topic, bro. It's always funny for me to hear people say that. Oh, here we go. Let me I I I'll I'll let one more person come up and talk about it. Right. Is there is there any other example this guy has? Not a single one. So, I ask you, why do you think that we could have negotiated with Iran? I'll give him one more chance. Mhm. Bro's on a spree. I am. There's a lot of these morons. There's a whole lot of them. Destabilizing a country with 92 million isn't a threat. Well, it it absolutely isn't. Like, I mean, no, not in the same way with them stabilized. We will see when this is all over. Yeah, you're going to say that because you know you know that your argument is bad. You know that Iran uses negotiation as a delay tactic so they can get more power. That's the reason why they're using negotiation. That's the whole reason. What are you talking about? So So what what am I brainwashed about? What is this? The timing for the attacking was terrible. They should have done it during the protests. Well, they weren't able to do it then for whatever reason. I mean, you're right. Like, I mean, don't get me wrong. I agree with you. I think that we should have done it during the protests, but we weren't able to for whatever reason. Why would the USA be begging the UK to join? Do you think that the USA is begging the UK to join? Do you think that's happening? They got the money from Obama's nuclear deal and the rule was a max 3.7% enrichment and then they literally posted on Twitter that they had 60%. Wow. It's almost like they just lie and make up and then do whatever they want. Well, it's just I I don't understand how so many people can be so naive. I mean, you know that the like you know how big the UK Navy is, right? I think there's an infographic that has it, right? Is this from now versus or is it now or from before? From 2020. Like look at that and compare that to the American Navy. Like it's not so big anymore. No, it's not. Like this is the way it used to be. It used to be massive. Look at that. Was insanely huge. It's gigantic. That's only one carrier fleet. Yeah. To say that like we needed them is not I don't think I just don't think that's true. UK territories is what the US wants to use. Yeah. UK media pushed with people pushing Star to help and condemn. Um, I I'm I'm confused by like are are you making a point here or are you just like saying something? I'm just very confused by this. They get poorer after not being able to loot nations. Yeah, let me I'll I'll let this person respond one more time. Then I want to meet I want to move on to something else. Only 63 uh ships for a country that used to rule the world. Yeah, exactly. A lot of NATO countries have relied on American military tools. Yeah, I think that's true. Honestly, I think it's very true. Please reexamine the facts of the Obama deal and uh and the timetable on the nuclear enrichment. Well, what does that mean? Let me ask you something. The word of the dance isn't what happened. Do you think that you can trust Iran? Very simple question. Very simple basic question. Do you think that you can trust Iran? New Tulsi Gabber tweet. Ooh. Oh. Okay. Okay. Let me pull it up. Okay. Where is it? Okay. Yeah, I will look at it here. Uh, you absolutely cannot implicitly trust them. Okay. So, then why would you make a decision based off of that? They held uh true to the low percentage until after the deal was torn up. So, so you're saying you can't trust them? Okay. So, then why would you even listen to what they're saying? That's why uh we had the inspections. Yeah. And what did the inspections say? They said they had 60% you know, get Iran's full of trust. This is the kind of stuff like I I don't understand how there can be so much dissonance. Do you trust Russia? No, I don't. But Russia already has nuclear weapons and look at how many problems that caused us. That's incorrect. What is what what about it's incorrect? Yeah. What does that mean? 60% was after the deal was torn apart. You really think they weren't trying to develop it from then? Uh before then? Come on. Maybe I'm wrong. And uh the inspections were showing they uh they were adhering to the deal. Yeah, of course. Because weren't there certain areas like Let me see if I can find this. Um I want to see if I can pull this up and find it. Give me one second. And uh maybe I'm wrong. Inspection is showing. Let me read the other comments. And okay, separate side arrangements. I'm just trying to find this out. And let me see here. They were the uh they were until Israel preempted an attack. I see there were areas off limits to the IAEA. You're correct. That's what I was looking at. So basically the joint comprehensive plan JPCOA uh for declared nuclear sites the IAA had robust amounts. The main points of contention regarding exceptions or limitations uh centered around access of undeclared or suspicious sites including potentially military ones. H wow. This is the kind of guys. Like, I I remember reading this and it's like, "Yeah, of course they got rid of this. Of course they got rid of it. Duh. Iran promoted more terrorism under JPCOA. They they had more funding." Yeah, exactly. And uh so that's it. I mean, like I I don't understand how like I don't know where these people come from. I really don't. It's very confusing to me, but that's just how it is. Anyway, uh let me go and I'll read. So, this is a new statement that was just made. Uh, Donald Trump was overwhelmingly elected by the American people to be our president, commander-in-chief. As command, as our commander-in-chief, he's responsible for determining what is and is not an imminent threat and whether or not to take action he deems necessary to protect the safety and security of our troops, the American people, and our country. The Office of Director of National Intelligence is responsible for helping coordinate and integrate all intelligence and provide the president and commander-in-chief with the best information available to inform his decisions. After carefully reviewing all the information before him, President Trump concluded that the terrorist Islamist regime in Iran posed an imminent threat and took action based on that conclusion. I don't like this messaging. I don't let me explain the reason why. I think we should have done it even if they weren't an imminent threat. Should have obviously done it because they want to be an imminent threat. Why would we wait for them to become problematic? We should have stomped them out as soon as possible. Honestly, probably should have stomped them out 20 years ago whenever we were in a whenever we were in the Middle East. Anyway, we should have done it then. So, this like this entire like and this is the false premise because everybody is arguing about the semantics of the term imminent threat. I don't give a if they were an imminent threat or not. They're chanting death to America. They want to build nukes and they fund terrorists. Kill them. Duh. What are you Of course you should do that. Like imagine not thinking that. Like of course you should go after them. And uh why? Yeah. Why would you let them become an imminent threat? Like it's just And so this messaging is just so Like I don't know why they keep fixating around it because and here's the reason why I find it to be is that imminent threat can mean multiple different things and it depends on how you interpret it. Some people interpret imminent threat meaning that it's a threat to Americans across the world. Other people interpret imminent threat as it is a threat to Americans that are inside of America and Iran bombing America, you know, domestically. Other people see imminent threat as Iran whether they would bomb US bases around the Middle East. And so this word can be reinterpreted in like three or four different ways. Look up the definition. It doesn't matter what the definition is whenever nobody is saying the same thing. Do you see what my point is? Oh my god. And so uh I care more in the imminent in the future. Yeah. Exactly. Okay. We've got All right. We have one more person. I promise this will be the last one. Okay. I promise, guys. You guys delusional. What am I delusional about? Let's go. Let's get it. One more. It depends on political capital and will along with the narrative campaign. If we attacked earlier, it could have been destructive political capital. Maybe I think it would have been better if we had attacked like in January whenever they were having the protests. But that's just my opinion. It's a battle royale. Yeah. I I think that like as soon as somebody as soon as a as soon as a country becomes a potential threat, I think we should stomp them out immediately. It's in our best interest. Well, we should immediately do that. Like, if if it seems like that they're going to oppose us militarily or sabotage us militarily, we should immediately do that. Like, why would we wait for even a day? Just do it instantly. Yeah. I'm just confused. Don't tell me. Don't tell me. We don't even have a single response, man. Do not tell me that. What the man? Are you serious? No. What do you mean? I'm absolutely serious. Yes. You want to destroy uh communist from 80 years so Russia should bomb you? Well, wait a minute. You think that the reason why Russia isn't bombing us is that they don't want to seem hypocritical. The reason so the the reason that's the reason why Russia hasn't attacked us. Oh my god. Where do Because you can't wipe out countries who may be a threat. That's extreme as Why are you a tyrant looking to take over the world? Well, it's simple. Um, so basically, why would you not do that? If you're working in America's best interest and you have a country that is trying to build a military to destroy America and they're saying that they want to kill Americans, why would you not kill them? Why wouldn't you do that? So, you're evil? No, I'm not. We're just sitting here in our country. We're not like it. We're not trying to kill them. Like, we're not trying to blow up Saudi Arabia. We're not trying to blow up Qatar. Like, what the is Iran doing it? The reason why Iran is against the United States is because it's run by a bunch of psychotic extremist religious zealots. That's the reason why. There's nothing else more to it. There's not a huge grand geopolitical reason or anything else. They go around, they stop people from dancing, they stop people from showing their hair. They have thousands of other rules. They allow child marriage. They're nuts. They're absolutely crazy. You came to Yeah. What is this here? It's It's obvious, guys. We saying death to America. Yeah. I was so much better at that. No, I wasn't. I was bad at WoW, too. But anyway, so you uh you you can't explain it because you are taking this is in my opinion prey morality. This is morality of people that assume that you can't take action to defend yourself. If somebody pulls out a gun and they say, "I'm going to load this gun and I'm going to shoot you with the gun whenever it's loaded." I would shoot them before they load the gun and I think everybody would. But the moment that you apply this logic to a larger scale, people act like it's unreasonable. This is outrageous. It's not even a It's not even debate. Yeah, of course. Absolutely. Happens all the time. If they if they threaten to shoot you, you should just play Wow. Yeah, exactly. I I'll let this person make one more response. And uh they're holding a gun for 47 years. Not a sing you cuz you know you know it's true. You know it's totally true. There's nothing that you can say that's going to make it make sense. The guy got debunked uh by a New York bomber is the perfect example. Yes. Clearly the US has been meddling in Iranian affairs since 1950. You've embargoed them, waged economic warfare on them. Okay. What does that have to do with whether they're going to pull a gun on us? What does that have to do with that? The moment that somebody pulls a gun on you, do you think to yourself, it's okay for them to shoot me? Because in their mind, they're right. No. You think to yourself, I don't want to get shot and you shoot them first. Duh. Jesus Christ. Some of these people, plenty of other people die in that scenario. If it's just Trump, they're a leader in a duel, I'd be all for it. Okay. So, you think that nobody is going to die? If Jesus Christ, this is the mentality that these people have. It's so embarrassing. Don't you think that there are motives behind the war that we're not fully aware of? I mean, not I mean, I'm sure there are some, but like I don't think you can really I think that people are aware of them. They're just guessing. That's the reason why we got to teach people how to survive nowadays. There's no survival instincts. Exactly. I thought, you know, yeah, the guy in charge charge of intelligence didn't say so. And the other 10 other people that were in charge of intelligence said they said so. Like, how does that make sense? the one guy that agrees with you is right, but the 10 people that don't are wrong. Like, you're trying to make an appeal to authority whenever this is one person that said that when the majority of other people said the opposite. So, anyway, let me go back. I'll look at the other stuff because I think that people have massive, massive brain rot. It is so stupid. And I think that the main reason why this is the main reason why you're falling for US propaganda, bro, it's not propaganda. It's self-defense and it's self-preservation. That's the reason why. I think that any country, I will repeat myself and make it very clear, any country that is saying death to America that wants to build a nuclear bomb and that funds terrorism, if we have the means to destroy them completely, I think that we have a moral obligation to do so. Not only do I think that we should do it to secure our presence and to make sure that we're safe, but I think that we have a moral obligation to use the military to protect our civilians and our citizens by preventing threats like that from emerging and getting worse. And I think that we do have the technology for that. We spend a trillion dollars a year on that. And I think that that is the thing that in the long term will result in the least amount of lives lost for both sides because if that government gets powerful enough and there's a full-scale war with the United States in 25 years, then millions of people on both sides will die. I don't want to have that happen. So, it's better to cut it out at the very root and then prevent it from getting worse and get with a government that's more reasonable. It's just common And I agree basically it's our planet. Well, I mean it's the thing is that like I don't really care about like uh you know like what oh it's not fair or whatever. I mean like it is it not fair for your own government to like try to work in your best interest. Of course it is. So uh yeah that Israel wants this war to hasten the end times to bring back their Messiah by the way. Yes. I know it's all about Israel. Israel wants everything. So anyway, I'm not going to get into that again. I I just want to move on but like that that that's what my perspective on it is. I've said it more times. It's common sense. It obviously is. It obviously is. There there's no actual argument against

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