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Discussion of a girls-only Valorant tournament and skepticism about its legitimacy and participants, including issues of AI art and online criticism.
Asmongold TV dives into a viral girls-only Valorant tournament controversy, dissecting policy, biology debates, and the online backlash.
Summary
Asmongold breaks down a viral incident around a girls-only Valorant tournament and the online fallout that followed. He highlights a sponsor or organizer’s stated rule: participation limited to biologically female players, and he notes the polite and firm response from the organizers about maintaining a women-focused space. Throughout, he references heated comments and debates about whether trans women should be allowed to compete in women’s spaces, often contrasting scientific and cultural arguments. He cites examples from social posts, responses to the tournament, and public statements that frame the issue as a larger fight over identity, validity, and access in esports. The discussion veers into broader comparisons between sports and esports, touching on reaction times, biology, and whether “real” differences exist between men and women in competitive contexts. He also notes how some commenters frame these spaces as necessary to protect female competition, while others push back by arguing inclusivity should be universal. The tone oscillates between critique of the backlash and defense of women’s communities, with viewers invited to consider the stakes of labeling spaces as exclusive or hostile. Finally, the video underscores the complexity of balancing community rules with evolving conversations about gender and inclusion online.
Key Takeaways
- Tournaments aiming to create women-focused spaces may explicitly forbid transgender participation, as stated by the organizers in response to the controversy.
- The host cites public replies that describe the rule as a protective measure for female spaces rather than an exclusion of transgender individuals in general.
- There is a recurring claim that biological differences translate into competitive disparities, used by some to justify separate women’s events in esports and other sports.
- Public reactions often mix personal beliefs, scientific claims, and political ideology, demonstrating how identity debates spill into gamer communities.
- The discussion highlights the tension between inclusivity and space where women feel protected and prioritized in competition settings.
- Some commentators point to the potential toxicity of online harassment when any exclusionary rule is perceived as anti-trans or discriminatory.
- Organizers emphasize that the tournament’s rules are their prerogative for the space they’re creating, even as critics label it transphobic.
Who Is This For?
Essential viewing for esports fans and community managers who want to understand the arguments around gender-based spaces in gaming, plus anyone curious about how online backlash shapes tournament policies.
Notable Quotes
"This is from Violet. Okay. Sorry, but no. May I know why? And so, uh sorry, cutie, but we don't."
—Illustrates the explicit rule limiting participation to biologically female players and the rationale given by the organizer.
"We currently limit participation to players who are biologically female as our goal is to create a space specifically for women in that category."
—Official response quoted by the host to explain the policy.
"If trans women are real women, what's the point of them being trans?"
—A provocative line used to challenge the idea of trans inclusion in women’s spaces.
"They want us to acknowledge they're trans, but then when we call them trans, they call transphobe."
—Summarizes the perceived double standard in the dialogue around identity.
"What pisses me off here is the fact that she's being so nice to them and they're all calling her names."
—Captures the tension between organizers’ respectful communication and online harassment.
Questions This Video Answers
- How do esports communities justify women-only tournaments and what are common counterarguments?
- What does biology say about performance gaps in esports between men and women?
- Can transgender players compete in women-only esports spaces without violating the space's intent?
- What are the ethical and social implications of gender-based spaces in online gaming communities?
- How should organizers handle backlash when implementing inclusive or exclusive tournament rules?
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Full Transcript
Speaking of fantasy, uh we have a girlsonly Valerant tournament. So, uh this is something I talked about yesterday. It's kind of gone viral now. And uh this is and obviously the girls only Valerant tournament. So, you have somebody here. Surely there's a graphic designer, an artist who would love to contribute to the project. So, this is somebody complaining that the art is done by AI and uh again, it's a scam. They made the account a few days ago. It's not real. Our account was made a few years ago, of course. And so anyway, do they include trans?
Well, that is the big question. That's the big one. And the answer to that is no. They do not include trans. So, I was wondering if trans women were allowed to participate. This is from Violet. Okay. Sorry, but no. May I know why? And so, uh, sorry, cutie, but we don't. The reason is that we are Muslims and we think that it's not fair to let transgenders play our tournaments. And in my opinion, like this is what I find to be very funny is that this is like the obvious like crash that a lot of leftists are going to have where whenever you make your bed with one of the most conservative religious groups in the entire world, you are going to have problems with this.
Like a lot of these Muslims don't have the same like I'll tell you this. If you have a, you know, like think about your most racist Republican that hates gay people and everything else and you have him sit down and like the guy's not actually racist, right? But like, you know, the Republican that you say like this is the biggest problem ever and then you take a guy from the Middle East that's a devout Muslim. I bet a lot of those two guys, I bet they're going to have a lot of things in common. I bet they are.
And that's something that a lot of people don't talk about is that inside of those two groups, there are a lot of vin diagrams. And so anyway, also it's their tournament. It's their rules. Yes, exactly. And uh yeah, cloud gaming the Muslim things just to cover. They probably added one Muslim to have an explanation. Well, it doesn't really matter why. I mean, the reality is that um you know, like uh let me scroll down and show you some of these, right? I I think this is kind of funny to watch everybody crashing out and getting mad about this, but uh let me scroll down and and pull up everything else because obviously this is a uh a new thing, right?
Where basically, and this is the kind of thing that I was talking about how people it it's not enough for these people to, you know, basically have their own, you know, their own spaces, etc. They want to be uh involved in women's spaces. is they want to invade women's spaces and then they use everybody else having to cooperate with that as personal validation. They expect to be treated as if they're women. And here's the truth, right? Is that if you're a trans woman, you're not a you're not a real woman. You're not. You're biologically not a woman.
You don't have the chromosomes. You don't have the biology. You don't have the genitalia. You're not the same thing. And anybody who anybody who argues differently from that is purely doing it out of a like this is it is an ideology. It is not biology. It's not logic. It's not rational. Everything about it is counter to everything. It is what I am saying is pure science. And so anyway, you don't have the cards. That's right. You don't have the cards. And uh yes. Anyway, destroy the construct of lemon. That's the goal. Well, maybe. And um anyway, what do you mean transphobic?
So you're trying to make some Muslim females drop their religious beliefs and let anyone around them in their own safe space not respecting their religious boundaries is Islamophobic. Man, that is funny. Yep. Phobic wars. Now we have the phobia wars. Okay. We had the racism wars and the sexism wars. Now we have the is trans phobia big like higher up on the pyramid than uh than Islamophobia. Now in my opinion I think Islamophobia is going to win out because there's way more Muslims than trans people. Number one. And number two um the majority of the people that are I I mean if you look at look I just say it right.
I mean some people wouldn't say this. the rate of people that are trans, it's overwhelmingly white people. It is like, let me let me look this up. I just want to prove it to you guys. And and in the US, okay, in the US, what percentage of trans people are white? I would bet 70 to 80%. 56% uh transgender identify as white. Okay, there we go. 55% white. Okay, that's that's actually lower than I thought it was going to be. Key context trans some non-white groups and black. Oh, wow. Wow. Okay. Well, maybe I might be wrong about this.
It seems like this is it's half. Yeah, that don't count. Well, yeah, but the half of the country is white people, too. So, like I would say that's accurate, right? That's proportional. No, I guess maybe that's not accurate. Um well, anyway, uh cuz they lie, bro. Yeah, I think that they might be identifying that way. They identify as white. Yeah, it's hard really for me to say, but uh should do that per capita as well. Well, they already showed that and talked about it. But either way, what my point is is that I do think Islamophobia is higher up on the tier list than uh than this is, right?
Than transphobia is. White's still a strong majority. Did you see Sweden drop the term Islamophobia as a hate term? Yeah, I did see that. So, anyway, uh and this is it here. Uh, thank you so much for reaching out and for your interest in joining future tournaments. Uh, for our game changers events, we currently limit participation to players who are biologically female as our goal is to create a space specifically for women in that category. We really appreciate your understanding and we'd still love to if you'd be part of the community if you want to be part of the server.
So, this is the most reasonable, nice, polite, and everything way. And so this is the problem that I think trans people have is that it's not enough for you to just simply be able to exist in society. You have to be validated by being able to participate in women's events as well. This is a this is a trespass. It is it is a trespass in women's spaces. And I think in a very general sense, you are asking the entire world to basically participate in this in this value right now. Everybody has to see this. Oh, dear God.
Yeah. Do we have a nasty reply to that? Of course we do. It's classic. Give an inch, they want a mile. Yeah, they do. And and that's the problem, right? And so anyway, what pisses me off here is the fact that she's being so nice to them and they're all calling her names. Grown ass people harassing girls that are 13 to 17. By the way, I don't know about that. And I used to be an ally and respect how they stood up for minorities. But never again after these ill people. The problem is that again, it's these purity tests, right?
I can't tell you how much as a woman, this whole thing enrages me. It's so [ __ ] dumb. Well, of course it is. And I think there's a lot of people that feel that way. Respectfully, I'm not convinced that wanting to have a tournament with only cis women is inherently transphobic. Well, here's the reason why it's transphobic. I'm going to explain it. It's very simple. It's because they think that they're women. So, at any point whenever you draw a distinction between a trans woman and a biological woman, that distinction fundamentally to them is transphobic. That's the reason why it happens.
Like, I I I don't even know why. Like I mean maybe we're asking this question in pertaining to be [ __ ] right? But like that's clearly why and uh not cis women. Women. Yeah, exactly. You're only an ally until they deter uh decide you're not. And I'm big on inclusivity and the trans community already is set uh has the rest of GC to participate in. Why does it matter if a small tournament doesn't wish to include them? It's actually very simple why. It's extremely simple why. It's because if the tournament doesn't include them, then they're not real women.
That's the reason why. That's exactly it. That's the main purpose. That's why they want to be a part of the tournament. That's the whole thing. And so, yeah, it's it's literally that. I mean, I I I don't know why. Like, I mean, the problem is like I mean, you you should be able to understand what these people's point of view is, right? And uh why don't they just lie? Because it's pretty obvious. Game Challengers, the proine for women in Valerant. Well, trans women shouldn't be competing in biological women's tournaments, right? I mean, it's just because men and women obviously are different.
They're different with everything. uh you know like eye hand coordination, reaction time, etc. is different. That's why you see and and I saw somebody making a post about this and I actually even responded to it. I I I don't make a lot of tweets, but I I do every once in a while. And so this is somebody saying uh biological girls only in a Valerant tournament. The whole reason I love competing in esports rather than actual sports is because there are no biological advantage and disadvantages to playing video games. So I don't understand the reasoning behind excluding trans women in this.
Well, obviously at the highest levels of competitive play, men are better. Only a [ __ ] would look at something that happens a 100 out of a 100 times and come to the conclusion that there's no correlation. Biology is real even if you pretend it's not. Too bad, huh? And I start watching your stream. Yeah, exactly. Right. And so different brands, genitals, bone mass, etc. They want us to acknowledge they're trans, but then uh when we call them trans, they call transphobe. Well, they want to be acknowledged as trans. They only want to be acknowledged as a woman, right?
That that's really what the goal is. I think that's generally what it is. And so, who is the base poster? Yeah. I mean, that that's really it. I mean, there's a reason why, for example, like even in chess, there are different grandmaster levels. Like a woman grandmaster, uh, like let me see if I could find this. Let me see if I could pull this up, bro. like this kid. Oh my god. What is this [ __ ] The [ __ ] out of here. Just give me a [ __ ] link. Here we go. What's that? That's made a better success.
I'm Squad. How old are you? 11. And I'm a master. Wow. I'm small, too. And I'm a grandmaster. Yeah, but you're a woman. It's only 2,300. I saw that. But still higher than you. Who cares? I'm much younger. So this skill. Yeah. Yeah. But you're a woman grandmaster. I mean like No, I mean like I'm a real one. like a real one though, right? So anyway, uh no in chess is because women are assumed to be historically oppressed. That's all the thing. Women need special treatment to equalize. Right. Right. They're oppressed and giving them a higher rank is what the reason why.
Pull up the video of the girl going against the Grandmaster and playing on her phone and getting it taken away. It's f It's hilarious. I didn't see that at all. That's why you get women healers in video games. They usually panic. Exactly. And so, uh, this is really, uh, the only anomaly was Judith, uh, Judith Poggar got top six in the world, including men. Some say it's a lower sized pool. Well, the thing is that, so if you have, let's say, um, like a one in 100 chance, if you have 100 chances, you're probably going to hit that one in 100.
If you have a 1 in 1,000 chance, the probability is much lower that you're going to have it happen. It's not that women have a ceiling. It's that the probability of the stars aligning to where women are going to be this good and be this much of a genetic anomaly to be this good at something is extremely extremely low. That's why all the tallest people are men. All the strongest people are men etc. Now it doesn't mean that there aren't strong women. Of course there are. Or tall women. Of course there are. But at the same time whenever you go into the extremes right Jith Pulargar and realize how [ __ ] your take is.
So this is a person. So so you're arguing with me because you can come up with one example. Do you really think that? So so I want you to ask yourself the question the fact that you can come up with one example. Don't you think that that kind of proves my point? Don't you think that proves my point that you can come up with one example? Her sister too. What do you think that? So, do you think that there is no biological difference between men and women in their thinking and reaction time? What about IQ?
What even is his argument? She was a great chess player. What does that have to do with the topic? Well, here's what it has to do with the topic. The the average is women on average are 5' 3, but I'm 5'4. Fighter pilots are women. What do you think the what do you think the percentage of that is? It's cultural, not biological. Really? Oh, it's cultural. Okay. Well, um, how many cultures, let me think about this, right? So, why is it that inside of every single culture, the same thing has happened? It's cultural, right? This is it.
So, Alexander the Great, a woman, exactly less than 10%. This is again, it's just a [ __ ] [ __ ] right? And uh anybody that thinks like this is uh is [ __ ] right? And just the the problem that people have like this is that they think in terms of exceptions because they don't understand like uh averages, right? They they can't understand statistics. So, whenever they see something that is an exception to a rule, then they think that that disproves the rule. that that's the way that a [ __ ] thinks. Those are people that shouldn't be allowed to vote, right?
And they don't understand statistics. Yes, exactly. And so I've got another example. Yes, of course. And uh I'd agree if chess was a physical sport, learning moves is something called women uh can do just as easily in 2026. Then why do you think so? Why do you think that there is a like with esports for example, men are overwhelmingly dominating every single one of these competitive spaces whether it is uh you know esports uh regular sports uh chess why do you think that's happening that like literally in every single in every single instance in every single place in the world.
Because if it was just culture, here's another example, right? If it was just culture, you would see different cultures that would obviously produce different results. They don't. They all produce the same results. That's how you know it's not culture. That's all mental. Yes. Exactly. At the competitive letter, men have a reaction time 30 to 50% uh milliseconds faster than women. It's extremely significant. Yeah, it's it's more hands are used in eports like CSGO. I point chess is all mental is what I think. Do you think that men and women's brains are the exact same? Do you think that like so just what because you you say it's all mental as if this means that it's the same.
Men and women don't think the same. They don't have the same kind of brain. Absolutely not. Okay. So, so if you know that men and women's brains are not the same and you recognize that in every physical sport men outperform women, what would lead you to the conclusion that women would be able to compete with men when every single other instance they don't? What would make you think that Sam's not going to [ __ ] you? I know it's not even about being a simp, right? It's just the truth. And honestly, I think women should have their own spaces.
They can compete with each other. I think that's what's totally fine in every in every and I mean every single sport, right? Reaching the top requires enormous dedication. Women are generally not able to sacrifice social life for it. I think it's a lot more than that. Women have one-third smaller brains. It's biology. Really? Well, don't they make 77 cents the dollar of a man? I Maybe you know what? Maybe that gender gap made sense after all. I don't know if that's true, by the way. I have no idea. And uh yeah, brain capture, I see your point.
I just think women's have the channels to be just Why would you think that? What would what would make you think that? Why would you Why would you think Why would you think this? Yeah. I I mean like what's the reason they're brainwashing? Yeah. His mama told them, I guess, right? And he's a s. Yeah, of course. You're trying to advocate for women's spaces and they don't even get that. I know that delusion. I don't know. Shrug. I don't think I have a reasoning to it. I I know. I'm aware. I'm aware of that. I I I know that.
That's the whole That's the problem. That that's the entire issue, right? And uh look at how many how many women are in the top 100 chess players. Let me see how many women are in the top 100 chess players. I don't know the answer. I I mean I can assume the answer to this, right? But like I'm going to assume it's zero. Yeah, it would be zero. Okay, there you go. All right. So, um there you go. So zero I yeah of course right I mean duh right yeah two I guess right and as two is player Max Carlson rated down highest rated woman places your outside top 100 other top women as well as other ones has been the ca this has been the case for years right of course and so anyway there you go guys how many top 100 uh in esports earnings um well earnings are not really a good way to look at it right uh it's very hard to say and the highest rated woman 2050.
I have no idea. Or 2,500. I have no idea. And also, by the way, there are other vectors that you can look at this from that tell a very interesting story. There are very interesting vectors. And so, uh, this is a, uh, this is because whenever you go into Yeah. And I I don't want to get into the examples of this, right? I'll get in trouble. But um just be be creative and think about it and you're going to come to that same conclusion. And so uh attractiveness. Exactly. Yeah. There's people that get paid more in esports for different reasons.
So anyway, let's go back. I'll go back to this, right? Because we we kind of got off on a tangent for no reason. And so anyway, this is what's happened, right? Is that you know, obviously a lot of these people have been calling this uh this team out and this tournament out, etc. And I'm going to look at it and transphobic. Look at this here. Transphobic and using AI. Insane. Ah, man. How about that? Didn't uh Bruce Jenner win of the year on his first go? Yeah. I mean, if you think that men aren't better than women, how the hell did that happen?
The guy's only a woman for a year and he already beats the rest of them. I mean, Jesus. I mean, what a clean sweep. What do you mean? Yeah. Sexist poster. Girls only. What? Yeah, exactly. And they blocked you. Transphobic for only including biological females. Someone clearly can't support female spaces. Trans women are females. I support all women as should you. Saying it doesn't make it real. This is the problem that you have. You guys see this is the problem is that everybody that does this, they think that, well, all we have to do is keep saying this mantra, right?
Like it's a spell or something like that. And at some point, they're going to be able to, oh my god, wait a minute. Now I understand. I'm not going to do that. They're manifesting. We love our dulu world. Exactly. They're totally out of their [ __ ] mind. If trans women are real women, what's the point of them being trans? I don't know. and whole conversation shouldn't even matter. If they want a female only tournament, that's their right. Well, here's the reason why it matters. And I want to explain the reason why it matters. It's because these people are trying to rewrite reality and they're trying to go after your livelihood when you don't accept their delusion.
That's the reason why they want everybody to live in this collective delusion. And the way that they maintain the delusion is by mercilessly and collectively harassing anybody who dares to break out of the matrix. That's what happens. And so it's evil. And so th this is the reason why it matters. It's because these are people. And and and why is it a big deal? It's a big deal because fundamentally what these people want to do is they want to tell you what to think. They want to control you. They want to be able to, you know, dictate what you believe, how you feel, what you uh respond to, and and everything.
They want to dictate your language, your thoughts, your feelings, and they also want to control how you choose to interact with other people. And that's it. What made them that way? Who cares what made them that way? I just don't like it. It's not my I don't give a [ __ ] what made it that way. I don't know. Like, maybe their m their dad was mean to them. Who cares? So, it's unironically a fascist ideology. Yes. Exactly. They want to matter because their partner parents never cared, I guess, right? But uh transphobia and both screenshots [ __ ] disgusting.
Them saying this is a safe space for women only after being if trans women can play actually disgusting. All it took to get blocked. So all of these delusional, deranged freaks are going around and harassing this tournament because this tournament dared to have a tournament for actual women. That's right. And I think that everybody should uh should push back against this. I do because what these people want to do is they want to rewrite reality. They want you to accept a lie and they want you to do it with the uh you know the cost of not doing so to be that they will try to systematically destroy your life.
I think the only thing to do better is to go after them first. That's what I think. And uh if you matter I I don't even know what that means, right? And uh trans are making enemies of everyone who isn't in this sad reality. Uh would you agree that some uh women kind of enable this behavior from these people? They do. I think that women have overwhelmingly enabled this behavior. And women are completely responsible for the destruction of their own spaces. And every time that I see women say that they aren't safe in in women's spaces, I say you should blame other women for that.
Men didn't do that. Men tried to protect you from this. and you called people like me and everybody else transphobic, racist, sexist or something like that. We tried to protect you because we could see this, but it's women that didn't want to see this. And overwhelmingly, uh, you know, they're the ones that are the victims of it. And I really can't say I feel bad for them. I can't because too many women think that it's okay to say this stuff because they're looking for social approval. That's the reason why. So, no, I don't care about it at all.
And uh when savagely compete with there exactly the destruction of competitive drive for females uh begins in high school. The teachers shut up pace your timer and did not let us actually push ourselves to make to not make the fats feel bad. Yeah. But like I mean if they did push you, you still wouldn't be as fast as a guy, right? I mean so like and I understand that you know there is and and this is this is the way that society is now, right? is that you don't want to make the fat girls feel bad because they can barely even walk to the other side of the gym, let alone jog back and forth, right?
And so that's really what happens. Literally turned off the timer. I thought I was going to go to the end. No, I mean again like there are a lot of people that do
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