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Discussion about flagging or canceling DEI grants and the personal judgments involved in those decisions.
Asmongold TV digs into a controversial clip where Doge Bros discuss DEI grants, prison abolition, and what counts as a “real” degree, sparking fierce debate about merit, funding, and censorship.
Summary
In this sharply opinionated clip from Asmongold TV, the host and guests dissect a chaotic exchange about DEI-funded grants and the implications of canceling them. They reference Elon Musk’s circle, the DEI language in federal grants, and a history of HIV/AIDS activism tied to the prison system, weaving in critiques of academia, “Karen consensus” jargon, and the notion of “real” vs. “fake” degrees. The discussion hops between moments of heated confrontation and wild assertion, with participants debating what constitutes legitimate scholarship and who should decide which grants survive funding. A recurring thread is suspicion toward DEI-based criteria and the claim that personal judgment can or should override official rules. The host notes how the Doge Bros allegedly advocate for dismantling DEI-driven funding and champions the idea of peer-reviewed history and “scholarly” legitimacy as a counterpoint. Throughout, the tone stays combative and unfiltered, highlighting the internet’s culture wars around grants, academia, and national service. The clip also features attempts to parse DEI concepts against executive orders, providing a raw window into how these arguments unfold in online communities. If you’re curious about how these heated debates play out in real-time discourse, this video offers a case study in rhetoric, grievance culture, and the online skeleton key to public policy talk.
Key Takeaways
- Doge Bros reportedly argued for canceling grants by interpreting DEI language as noncompliant with an executive order.
- Participants frequently equate “fake degrees” and bureaucratic academia with inertia, calling for personal judgment over grant approvals.
- The discussion frames DEI as a target for removal in funding, while critics push back by insisting on understanding the EO and DEI terms precisely.
- The clip includes assertions that philanthropy and policy grants should prioritize practical impact over identity-focused criteria.
- Elon Musk’s circle and Doge references are used to legitimize rebellious, anti-elite sentiment and to mock traditional institutions.
Who Is This For?
Essential viewing for viewers who want to understand the online culture wars surrounding DEI in grants, reform rhetoric, and the way pro- and anti-establishment arguments are framed in livestream commentary.
Notable Quotes
"This right here is a patriot. I love it. I love seeing this."
—Expresses strong support for the Doge Bros’ stance against DEI-driven funding and the broader critique of academia.
"A real degree is a degree that causes you to do something that matters."
—Central claim contrasting “real” vs. “fake” degrees, tying merit to tangible impact.
"Shut the [expletive] up with your fake Karen Consensus degrees."
—Crude dismissal of degrees and credential culture used to justify funding cuts.
"If you’re curious about how these heated debates play out in real-time discourse, this video offers a case study in rhetoric, grievance culture, and the online skeleton key to public policy talk."
—Editorial framing of the video’s purpose for the audience.
"No, it’s not complicated. These people think they’re smart. They’re stupid."
—Host or participant’s blunt take on academia and expertise.
Questions This Video Answers
- How do DEI requirements influence federal grant funding and policy discussions?
- What is the controversy around DEI language in grants and executive orders?
- What is prison abolition and how has it intersected with HIV/AIDS activism in U.S. history?
- What does the debate over ‘fake degrees’ versus ‘real degrees’ say about credibility and merit in academia?
- Why do online communities defend or reject DEI-funded programs and what arguments do they use?
Asmongold TVDoge BrosDEI grantsExecutive Order on DEIPrison abolition movementHIV/AIDS activismAcademic credentials and “fake degrees”Elon Musk influenceScholarly peer reviewKaren consensus
Full Transcript
One of Musk's Doge bros explains how he flagged DEI grants for termination. Oh yeah. So you missed it. Shut up. You don't regret that people might have lost important incomes and to support. Let me turn this one up. You don't regret that people might have lost important incomes to patriot champion. I love it. No. I think it was more important to reduce the federal deficit from $2 trillion to close to zero. Did you? [clears throat] That's right. Reduce the federal deficit. No, we didn't. This is a history of the HIV AIDS prison movement and its legacies in the United States.
My book project narrates how activists fought the convergence of HIV AIDS and incarceration. He's laughing, bro. From inside [clears throat] and outside prisons across the Reagan through Clinton years and argues that this organizing holds legacies in the prison abolition movement of the 1990s to today. This is one of the grants that you or Mr. Fox identified as craziest of any age. Is that right? Craziest. The craziest ones. Yeah, that's about right. Huh? Oh man, I love it. Why did you one of the craziest friends? Um because it references um feminist and queer insights into prison abolition um and LGBTQ studies.
[laughter] All right. This one we're waiting on. Okay, let's go. So, why'd you do that? He just lets him know. Thank God. You okay? No, I'm not. I'm happy. See this this guy? I think they said he was like 29, right? He looks younger. But uh you say he's like 29, he's in his 20s. Uh I was very worried that my generation was going to just be the biggest losers until the next generation came out. Um, it seems like we have a new generation of base chuts and I think that these young men can hopefully save us from the fat karan that we have allowed to fester and rot our country.
This guy's a patriot. It's amazing. Any other reasons? No, that's it. Oh, you're using queer and feminist studies about getting rid of prison. You're going in the garbage. Why? I just said you're in the garbage now. That's it. Your job's done. That's it. You're done. Examining military service from the margins. The comp from the margins. His service discussion series will bring together veterans and community members to examine the experiences of service members who identify themselves as female, black, Native American, LGBTQ or an immigrant. The dynamics, reasoning, and strength behind serving a country that does not always serve you in return.
Did I read that correctly? Um, yes. You and Mr. Fox identified this as one of the craziest crimes at NE. Yes, it appears so. Why it appears so. Why did you do that? Um, because it explicitly says LGBTQ. [laughter] Do you have any? That's it. Oh my god, bro. Elon hired the best of the best. He did. He hired some real winners. Holy [ __ ] This the most based I've seen. I told y'all like they need to This is the thing is they need to bring Doge back. And they need to take the like like I guarantee you that you can get like a thousand of these guys [music] and just have them total Karen obliteration.
That's what I want to see. Doge still exists. Well, they got to go even more to it. History and like let's say scholarly peer review. He just bro he just just the concept of that is just funny. Scholarly peer review, right? Scholarly peer review. Okay. No. So, but this judgment call was made by you and your personal judgment combined with Justin's personal judgment to cancel grants based on DEI. Yes. Okay. Finally. [ __ ] finally. Wow. Yes. Do you think it's inappropriate in any way that someone in their 20s with no experience with grants for federal government was making personal judgment calls about what grants be?
Um, no. I don't think it's inappropriate. Yeah. It's just a bunch of stupid [ __ ] people that have a bunch of fake degrees with a bunch of other stupid [ __ ] people that agree with them. It's just a bunch of sociologists that have created a Karen consensus and then tried to develop a curriculum around it. And now everybody's supposed to pay attention. [ __ ] that. Get the [ __ ] out of here. It's not complicated. These people think they're smart. They're stupid. That's why they're in a position they're in. Why not Jackson? Um, I think a person can have enough judgment from reading books and being well informed outside of traditional [clears throat] experience to make judgment calls about obvious things like a grant that literally lists DEI in its description to know whether it violates an executive order.
You just I'm sorry. I'm saying books because you said books. What books would you have read that would have informed your opinion on what grants to cancel based on DEI or there there were no books? Why would you need a book? It's see this is the this is the um bureaucratic oppression of academia where they create an endless Russian nesting doll of qualifications to where they can endlessly purity test out anybody who disagrees disagrees with them. This is all like of red tape. This this is what they do and uh books taught me how to read.
Yeah, it's pretty obvious. No books needed. Just common sense. Yeah. Like, oh, prison abolitionist feminist language. Yeah, we're not paying for that, obviously. Like, it's crazy how these people think that their fake degrees matter. Isn't it funny? Like, well, no, no, you don't understand. So, I had this degree and the degree says I understand books. Oh, no. No. This means that Oh, no. No. Now, it's okay for us to waste everybody's money on this. Nobody gives a [ __ ] about this. Shut the [ __ ] up. Shut the [ __ ] up with your fake Karen Consensus degrees. This right here is a patriot.
I love it. I love seeing this. What's [snorts] a fake degree and what's a real degree? Simple. A fake degree is one that causes you to write an essay about prison abolition. And a real degree is a degree that causes you to do something that matters. Any other questions? Got anything else? It's pretty simple. Yeah, it's really that simple. I mean, like if if you It's a click. Yeah, exactly. Like actually work. I know. Imagine that. And so we got this Doge Bros. Explain how I flag DEI. This guy received a neural link. What is this?
Why would learning about anti-black violence not be to the benefit of humankind? Objection. That's He says no, bro. [ __ ] the objection. I'mma let him know. Oh my god. And you got to keep in mind this is the reason why they're attacking Doge so hard and these guys so hard. The reason why is because they are breaking down the institutional like uh basically structure that they use to create white guilt inside of new Americans and young men. And so as soon as you delete all of this garbage, this worthless garbage, then finally you can have people that can learn to have self-respect for their own identity.
That's the reason why they go after these guys is that they're stopping the source. They're systematically breaking down the [ __ ] Yep. Not what I'm saying. Okay, then what are you saying? I'm saying it's relates to diversity, equity, and inclusion. You said it's not to the benefit of humankind, Is that what I said? Yeah. Um, yeah. Is that what I said? Could you read back the witness's response about benefits to humankind? Mhm. Question. Why would that be DEI? Answer. It's focusing on a singular race. It is not for the It is not for the benefit of humankind.
It is focused on a specific group or a specific race here being black. [sighs] I am so happy right now. I am. This is amazing. Thank God. You are completely right. And all these stupid people. Oh no. Oh, what's this? Oh, but it's just you can't say his answer because I'm not a re His answer could not a [ __ ] and that would have summed it up just fine. Yeah, I guess so. Holy [ __ ] [ __ ] And wait, I I I the audio is just so bad I can't watch this. And uh the meme lives. Yep, there it is.
Why are former Dogeian boys being interrogated like this? I I don't know actually why. I didn't really look into it. And uh spitting cold reality. Yep, there it is. Why are they even questioning these people? I I think that there's a few other of these that I've seen. I just didn't get a chance to look at them. And let me go back and No, there is this one. This is the one I think these guys deserve to have their lives ruined. And I hope this all goes brutally for them. So, this is some guy uh from the co-host of Left Reckoning.
Uh-oh, here we go. Um, I don't think that's what's going to happen. I think it's actually the opposite. It looks like these guys ruined a bunch of other people's lives. That's it. And deserved, by the way. And most of the military leadership pissed at Doge. He gave me a huge brain drain. Most of the recruitment was snatched away. Oh, I don't know about the Doge and the recruitment for the uh for the military. I haven't even heard about that. It's the first time I'm hearing of it. Is this Okay, here it is. This is the same one.
Same idiots who canled State Department grant for a conference with transpecific security issues because it had the word trans in it. So, this is what this is another this is another tactic of the mind of a Karen. Now, this is a guy named Tom. So, it's probably a dude, but at the same time, there can be people that are Karens that are men. You create a system and a structure that is so obnoxious, annoying, and ingrained into a like created into a problem. And then you now complain when somebody tries to unravel this system. Somebody tries to solve the system and now it's like, "Oh my god, but you made a mistake." Yeah, your entire system was a mistake and they made a few fuckups getting rid of it.
If you didn't want that to happen, maybe you shouldn't have made the [ __ ] system. How do you interpret DEI? There was the EO explicitly laid out the details. I don't remember it off the top of my head. That's I'm asking for your understanding of that. Yeah, my understanding was exactly what was written in the video. Okay. So, can you I don't remember in the We know exactly what he thinks DEI is. And he's right. We all know what it is. Now, do you have an understanding of what the EI is? Yeah. [music] Okay. So, what's your understanding as you sit here today in this position?
Um well it it was exactly what was written in the EO and so anytime that we would look at a [music] grant through the lens of complying with an exact order we just refer back to the EO and assess if this grant had relation to it. Okay. But I guess I'm stepping back from your uh methodology [music] strictly interpreting the grants. Do you have an understanding as you say here today of what BEI means? Okay. So what's your understanding of what it means? Well I it is exactly what was written in the uh Okay. So you he knows that he's [ __ ] with them.
The thing is that the real answer is the answer that everybody knows, but it's not politically correct to give that answer right now. So, they're giving a fake answer until it is. We all know what's in it. We all know what DEI is. Everybody knows it, but you can't really say that yet. So, we've got to use these games. And I don't have the EO in front of me, but that was we would always reference back to the EO and make sure that this grant was in compliance with the EO. I understand that. Okay. But I'm not asking necessarily about what was in the EO.
I'm asking very specifically about your present [music] understanding of what DEI just say it because it would be politically inconvenient to do so. It's pretty simple. What's DEI? It's exactly what's referenced in the EO. I mean, he just said it. Yeah. So exactly what they say in the executive order understanding of can you [music] explain what that present understanding is? Um well it's just easier for me to be referencing back to the EO. Yeah. Exactly. So that's obviously the reason why bunch of [ __ ] That's okay. No it's the thing is that whenever you're dealing with people like this sometimes you do have to be deceptive.
Uh it's annoying. Oh and then here we go too. Even Elon is is retweeting it. Legendarily based. Abso fuckingutely. Thank God we have this happening. Do you regret taking money from programs that may have led to people dying? No. I used to pray for times like
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