They’re STILL MAD about this.
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Hosts react to a Techone podcast segment about them, recalling and reacting to controversial clips.
Asmongold becomes the center of a spicy, messy debate, with hot takes on abortion pragmatism, gun rights, and the infamous Eevee/loi controversy fueling a heated online clash.
Summary
Asmongold TV’s latest breakdown dives into a torrent of reactions to Asmongold’s controversial clips and statements. The crew scrutinizes a mix of hot-button topics—from abortion policy and government bureaucracy to gun rights and online body-image discourse—while sparring over the accuracy and context of claims about a VTuber’s age and appearance. Techone and others on the podcast argue about the interpretation of a nine-month abortion stance, with Asmongold’s pragmatism framed as a utilitarian lens on government speed and medical judgment. The discussion then pivots to a provocative comparison to Second Amendment debates and the broader question of freedom versus accountability. The conversation also touches on the online lolicon controversy, Eevee’s depiction in Stellar Blade, and the social-media spectacle around body image and weight-loss drugs. Throughout, the hosts exchange blunt opinions, admit disagreements, and reveal how online reputations can be shaped by a few inflammatory clips. Jake and Powder contribute color commentary, while the trio acknowledges the risk of alienating audiences when discussing sensitive topics. The video closes by acknowledging the ongoing volatility of online discourse and the willingness to speak hard truths, even when they spark backlash.
Key Takeaways
- The nine-month abortion discussion centers on whether government bureaucracies can accurately distinguish legitimate cases fast enough, leading to a pragmatically broad stance that favors physician and patient judgment.
- Asmongold’s pragmatic, utilitarian framing of controversial issues is highlighted as a recurring theme, emphasizing real-world trade-offs over moral absolutism.
- The Eevee/Stellar Blade framing sparked a wide debate about age appearance in anime-inspired characters and the boundaries of discussing underage-looking depictions.
- The lolicon controversy is acknowledged as a real risk for creators, with strong emphasis on condemning sexualization of young-looking characters.
- There’s a clear tension between free expression and societal norms, including mentions of gun rights and the Second Amendment as a lens for discussing freedom and risk.
- The discussion illustrates how clips taken out of context can fuel rapid backlash, influencing perceptions of public figures like Asmongold.
- The conversation captures the blurring line between criticism and trolling in online culture, with participants debating whether reputations should be punished for provocative statements.
Who Is This For?
Essential viewing for fans of Asmongold and followers of online discourse who want a candid read on how controversial clips spiral into broader political and moral debates. Great for viewers curious about how modern streamers navigate backlash while maintaining personal pragmatism.
Notable Quotes
"There was a dog that was kidnapped and sold to a meat shop for $22. Um and he laughed at it."
—One of the sensational examples used to illustrate how off-color jokes can become central talking points.
"The vast majority of abortions that happen at 9 months are almost always due to the life of the child or the life of the mother."
—Core claim around the nine-month abortion discussion and government capability to adjudicate complex cases.
"If you sexualize depictions of children, you’re a weirdo. You should be saying, 'Thank God I’m not getting put in jail for this right now.'"
—Key stance on the ethical line around lolicon and why the topic draws harsh scrutiny.
"I don’t think Assan’s really that fat. I I don’t think he is."
—Casual remark reflecting body-image debates within the group and the shifting standards of discussion.
"There are a lot of people that shouldn’t have guns. We all know that, right? Like there’s a lot of people that should never have guns."
—Moment where gun-right pragmatism enters the conversation as a controversial, morally gray analogy.
Questions This Video Answers
- How does the nine-month abortion argument actually work in practical policy terms?
- What is the lolicon controversy in streamer communities and why is it so sensitive?
- Why do online creators compare political issues to gun rights or the Second Amendment?
- What happened with Eevee from Stellar Blade and how did it spark debate about age perception?
- How can context affect the backlash to provocative clips from streamers?
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Full Transcript
I saw Techone had an entire part of his podcast dedicated to compl. They had a little struggle session about me. They were upset about me. I'm We're going to watch it. We are. I forgot all about this. Where the hell they go? Here it is. Okay, here we go. Let's watch it. As Migold's gay ass shirt, um, he has gone on record and said that, and I don't know what everybody's opinion is here, and that's okay. Um, there was an image post of an IRL, an IRL photo of a VTuber called Demi, uh, who, in my opinion, is morbidly obese, and says that she has a A or S.
It's not your opinion. She's probably not morbidly obese. She's probably 80 lb overweight. I can tell body type. Uh there was also a dog that was kidnapped uh and sold to a meat shop for $22. Um and he laughed at it. Uh then there was what? I'm doing it again. It's ridiculous. I'm sorry. You have this prizewinning [ __ ] amazing, beautiful, social media famous dog and it gets stolen out of your house and sold to a dog meat market for $20. I mean, look, I know you're not supposed to laugh. I mean, that's ridiculous. It's outrageous.
I don't think that you should listen. Okay, I don't think that you should steal people's dogs and sell them to people that will eat them. Okay, I'm not I'm not saying it. You It's ridiculous. It's absolutely ridiculous. He also This clip was out of context. It looked like he said it was okay for people to abort children when they're at 9 months old. However, that was horrifically out of context. And what he said is the majority I think that that's actually what he means. No. So what he said was in the context of the clip which I studied very thoroughly.
Let's see if tech understands is he said the vast majority of abortions that happen at 9 months are almost always due to the life of the child or the life of the mother. And so he is okay with the child having to be aborted in extreme scenarios because he believes only extreme scenarios would ever cause a 9month abortion. What do you think about that next? That is not what he said. actually uh that is what I said actually. Uh it is and so like so that the point that I was making is that I think that you should be able to have an abortion at any time and it's not because I like abortions.
It's because I don't think the government can be fast enough at being able to distinguish when it's a good or a bad decision. And because the government can't make that distinction fast enough, I think that you have to trust the doctor and a mother with making that decision. So it's really a bureaucratically pragmatic perspective. I think that morally I have the same viewpoint on it that they do. But pragmatically you have to understand that whenever you introduce different points of difference, especially whenever you're looking at monthtomonth, you know, like you're pregnant for 9 and 1/2 months, you could be talking about a week turnaround for something like this that could totally ruin somebody's life.
It's easy that could happen. And I I think that functionally you can't you can't rely on a government to be able to make a comprehensive good, you know, in the- moment decision on the same level that a doctor can. you you you can't af you can't afford to have largecale bureaucracy that's involved with decisions that need to be made like that from a week-to-eek basis. He said was what he said was he would permit all 9-month abortions because the majority of nine-month abortions are because of some sort of extaneous circumstance. That's correct. Yes. It's a it's a net positive argument.
But because of that, he would allow all nine-month abortions. That's correct. That's his take. Really? Yes. because it it it's too risky to try to uh legislate and try to make decisions between the ones that are uh legitimate and not. And I don't trust any sort of large-scale bureaucratic agency to be able to make that decision dynamically. I don't think it's realistic to expect that to happen. I didn't get that. I like I got what Tone said from it that like the most extreme situation's different. I just I like it's kind of like the Second Amendment in a way, right?
And like I'm I'm not I'm not one for wanting this. I'm just like kind of making a comparison. Is that like the Second Amendment um like there are a lot of people that shouldn't have guns. We all know that, right? Like there's a lot of people that should never have guns. They shouldn't even be able to vote. They shouldn't have any rights at all. But like we let these people do that because that's the starting point that we have. And because we have the starting point of the Second Amendment, more people die. If we removed the Second Amendment and we took away everybody's guns, I guarantee you you would have less homicides and less killings in America.
Guaranteed. Here's the thing, though. I don't give a [ __ ] because I want to have a gun. I want to I want to be in America. I want to have a gun. So like at at a certain point you have to introduce and understand that you absolutely uh you you absolutely 100% do incur more risk and more collateral damage by allowing freedom. Freedom freedom is not freedom from like you know accountability. Often times freedom is creating more accountability. Same as with car. Exactly. So that that's my argument there. And I understand that I'm making a morally completely morally agnostic, completely pragmatic, utilitarian argument.
And I understand that a lot of people will not agree with it, but that's just the way that I think. A bad history of I don't view anybody who disagrees with me on the abortion take as a bad person. I just think that they I I don't think that they see things the same way that I do. Like I I don't have this like like I recognize that my opinion is extreme on this. Disagreeing with Jews, so I usually just let you have your way. So I don't want to risk anything. Yeah. If you disagree with a Jew, it's anti-Semitic.
Bad mumbo jumbo. Uh all of a sudden he gets banned on juu. How did that happen? Yeah. And then uh was there anything else that he said recently or is that pretty much the meat and potatoes of pretty sure that was it? I mean, Asmin Gold is is such an omnipresent force on Twitter. If he if he says something any like anything out of line, it usually comes across everyone FIP. But yeah, that's that's about everything that I that I heard. I didn't even hear about the 9month old thing actually saying. Yeah, I I actually I like Asm Gold's takes generally because like it's it's like ruthlessly pragmatic.
All right. And that's basically it. He doesn't have some sort of grounding moral compass. He's just I do have a moral compass. It just doesn't point north. I have an extremely strong moral compass and sometimes that's the problem. My idea of what the moral and the right decision to do is generally isn't the way other people see things. Like this will make society best actually if we just kill all these people. Well, oh, he has an opinion on Eevee. Oh, that's right. He said Eevee looked like a 12-year-old. How do we all feel about that?
What's Eevee? But yeah, this is great. Jake, pull up an image of the character Eevee. EV VIE from Stellar Blade. I think that Okay, so so here's the thing is that my opinion is that in the first frame, like I'm not willing to argue my perspective on any frame other than the first frame because I think that in a lot of the other images, you could easily say that's an 18-year-old girl, but I do hold very strongly that the first frame introducing the character, she did look underage, and it was very, very sus. I don't like that.
But that frame was bad. That's one frame. Yeah, of course. That was what I was going off of whenever I had only seen one frame during the trailer. That's the whole point. Why does it even matter? I just think it's weird if you show characters that have prepubescent faces whenever they're attached to sexualized bodies. I just think that's weird. I I don't think you should do that. I mean, I'm not saying you shouldn't be allowed to. I'm just giving my opinion. Like, that's my opinion. And I think that's weird. I want to know your reaction.
Your your gut reaction. How old does this Asian woman look? Oh, he's you're absolutely that. Uh obje objection. Uh leading question. Eevee Stellar Blade. Just be honest. Um I don't know, man. I mean, I've definitely seen like Asian South Korean chicks kind of look like this. Um Definitely I would I mean she could realistically be seen as someone who's 18 19 they do tend to look like that but that would be a younger looking 18 19year-old. There is some overlap but yeah she she's quite young looking. This caused a trend of 33year-old women who are Asian or South Korean to post photos of themselves who literally look identical to this character.
So, you can see that I'm following 218 people on Instagram. Techone is following nine. I know what I'm talking about. You don't. I'm the expert here. I understand this better than anybody. Nobody understands this better than me. When I saw these girls saying, "Oh, look at me. I look just like Eevee and I'm 31. In my mind, I was saying, "Yeah, you look like Eve's mom." Like, what do you mean? You don't look anything like that. Are you [ __ ] There's not even remotely close. There was like one girl that looked like that. All of the other ones like, "No, you look like a 30-year-old woman.
You're just wearing makeup this way." I mean, this is it. The Floyd expert. Yes. If there's anybody that that knows, nobody knows this better than I do. Nobody knows this and it's not even remotely close. Okay. Should update your info on Instagram? I don't even I don't care about Instagram. Have you used Instagram? 12-year-old's ass. Jesus [ __ ] Christ. Her ass is crazy, bro. I actually prefer Eevee's model to Eve's. Uh she looks like she has personality. I don't I don't I I think Eve was so much hotter. It's not even remotely close. That's uh that's what contextualizes her age there.
[ __ ] hell. Yeah, great ass. Uh as Migold said she looked 12. Um it was very often this is the image. Yeah. Yeah. If I see that image right there, that looks like somebody that is extremely young. I have followed a lot of girls on Instagram. I am an expert on this topic. This frame is fine. This frame is fine. The other frames are generally fine. I don't have any problem with the other frames. But at the very beginning, you showed a picture like that and yeah, I thought she looked underage. I did. Which, by the way, I want to say I I don't give a [ __ ] You know, it is what it is.
I mean, I heavily disagree. I think it just looks like a normal Asian one. Uh Powder, what did you think about that [ __ ] Um uh while I understand that her face looks young, I myself as like a petite woman saw it and was like, "Oh, this is great. more petite woman representation. So like I was getting mad because you know you have the lolli controversy of like lolli versus like lolli petite women petite women are lollies y d y d y d y d y d y d y d y d y d y d um so like I disagreed that she looked 12.
I also I think in the first frame she absolutely looked underage. I think she did disagreed that she is a loi. She's not a lolli. I hate that word. Yeah, I [ __ ] hate that word. Yeah, because in Japan it just means a whole like large span of things. Um, and if you sexualize a character that's under or before the age of puberty, you are uh a weirdo. You're a weirdo. Uh, that's just that simple. uh if if you are enjoying sexualized uh you know depictions of children uh that are that that look like you know again they're prepubescent children in sexualized ways if if if you like that uh you're a weirdo you're I mean I yeah I mean that that's really it and I I I mean really like I don't h I mean duh like what the [ __ ] what are we doing here and I'm not talking about by the way I'm not talking about 17 I'm talking about like nine seven.
Issue is I feel like a lot of people think Loi is either a child or um you know a petite woman, but like the issue is Loi has such a large spectrum. Like you could have lollies that look like actual normal human beings in their 20s. They're just petite. You also have lollies and it's like Anya from Spyx family, like a three-year-old girl. Yeah. And like, you know, if that if Ana from Spy if you like sexualized depictions of Anya from Spy Spy Family, I think the FBI should look at your uh at your hard drive.
It's really simple. Like, I mean, duh. Obviously. Oh my god. I've talked about this. Very different. Obviously it it's it's too large of an umbrella term and it means way it's too I mean but yeah many things Anna uh from Spy X family uh Kana from uh Dragon Maid also being in the same umbrella as Android 21 from Dragon Ball Z. Do you know who that is? Like do you know Android 21, Jake? Uh yeah, of course. Yeah. So they're saying Android 21, a Majin demon that's killed Earth with like decup titties like oh my god.
Anyways, because she's well actually she's 3 years old cuz that's when she was created in a lab. It's just like [ __ ] [ __ ] ass [ __ ] That is that is the inverse of the Yeah, she looks 10 but she's actually Yes. the inverse like yeah she looks like a mil but she's actually only [ __ ] three. Yeah. Uh, but Asminagold, and this is this is something that a lot of content critics won't say uh out loud, but Asmigold felt the wrath of the Lollcon community. And it too bad. You can think whatever you want. If you're sexualizing like uh fictional depictions of children, uh it's really weird.
It's super weird. And I'm not sorry. Yeah. I I mean, like, that's too bad. You got to deal with it. You should be lucky that you're not getting put in jail because I guarantee you that if you take this topic and you explain this topic to an average person at Walmart and you say this is a person that likes whacking off to cartoon versions of children, you are going to get a super majority of the population that wants to put you in jail. You should be saying, "Thank God I'm not getting put in jail for this right now because it's so much of a small thing that nobody's thinking about it.
Nobody cares about this. The moment like if you put this in front of a national audience in almost any country, uh, at least a western country, you are going to have this [ __ ] made against the law. You are living in a gray zone and you know it. a community that nobody really wants to deal with frequently because sometimes, you know, they get a little bit angry. Uh there's actually many people who I know who are just like, you know what, I'm just going to move past this because I'm even I'm I'm going to say it.
There are people who are afraid to say the word loi. Uh which I think is hilarious. People are horrified of these people. Um but anyways, uh that's what happened with that and well hopefully I will get a nice thick Asian woman to uh strip Asthma Gold bear and get his brain back under control. Also, to be fair to Asmin, he did say that it was only the first image that she looked young and she looked fine in the rest of the video. Very true. That's what I said. 400 pound Asian woman for Asmin Gold. 385.
Okay. And in his mind, a A or S tier body. S tier body. I felt like I saw the Yeah. Sorry, P. I mean, I I I think that there's a lot of guys that think that he was trolling. I felt like he was trolling cuz he was talking about how he would just have to com compete with Jamaicans or Bro, now she was not on the bananas and rice diet. No, she was a unit. Also, um yeah, I had to inform everybody what anti-ellulite leggings were and what they do for fat [ __ ] Oh my god.
And uh she crazy fat. Yeah, I guess so. He's not wrong. Yeah, I said I said basically I'm glad that nobody else likes her. That means the only the only people that I have to compete with for women like this are Jamaicans. I remember tweeting this out. I was like, ah, you know, was this one too much? Should I? Of course I'm going to say it. There you go. All right, there it is. That's what it was. And uh cellulite isn't just on fatties. I guess so. And um anyway, dim taking on fat one too easy again.
And also I I I don't know what else the rest of it is. I have no idea. What is this? Speaking of being fat, what is this? What is reteride? What the [ __ ] is this? You're taking another drug. What is this? this is supposed to help you lose weight. It's like o It's ompic. It's an antifat. Oh my god, dude. I thought peptides were for skincare was going on. No. Um, those are some of those are GLP1 agonist. Some of those are literally [ __ ] Redat True Tide is Eli Lily. Mhm. It's in the third phase of clinical trials in the United States of America right now.
I've been paying close attention to it because I will be getting on it uh when it is uh readily available for consumption. You're not that fat. I don't think you need to do drugs, man. Like I mean you just like I mean how many doesn't he eat like four times a day on stream? Just cut it down to two or three. Like that's it. You don't need to do that. Uh, it's a Jesus. It's a appetite suppressor that also doesn't [ __ ] erode your muscle mass, right? Um, okay. So, there it is, right? That was a shame.
I guess so. And, uh, body dysmorphia. I'm not sure, man. But, uh, you know, he he always has something to say about the way I look. He really does. But, uh, you know, people call start calling him fat and he's talking about going on medication. And I mean this is just really uh not a good thing to do, right? I would say he's trans fat. He is I don't think I don't think Assan's really that fat. I I don't think he is. And uh you know he used to be fat. I mean there's like this like you know for example like you know if Assan didn't take care of himself he'd get fat.
If I didn't take care of myself I'd get skinny. That's the difference right. It's just like some people have body types that are different that way. But Reetta does erode your muscles. So he's going to be like really skinny soon. Oh man. And uh Wow. Yeah. I mean, he I don't think he has to do that, bro. Like, it's it's not necessary.
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