I Love Linux - WAN Show March 13, 2026
Chapters49
Linus discusses Linux challenges, updates on Steam hardware, and Linux-related news like PS5 hacking to run Steam machines, framing the week's tech topics with a Linux-centric lens.
Linux power meets live streaming chaos: Linus hacks a Linux-only WAN Show setup from a Seoul tech mall with Kubuntu and a phone webcam.
Summary
Linus Tech Tips’ team kickstarts a WAN Show that pivoted from a traditional studio to a Linux-fueled on-the-road setup. Linus relays a chaotic but creative day hunting for gear in a massive Korean tech mall, documenting the makeshift studio using Kubuntu, an Elgato Wave-like mic solution, and a Rode NT USB Plus. He chronicles a real-world Linux challenge: when standard gear fails, a phone-as-webcam workaround and AI-assisted troubleshooting save the show. The segment doubles as a Linux-ganized production diary, highlighting the joys and pains of staying online with limited hardware. Throughout, Linus reflects on the broader Linux ecosystem, Debian/Ubuntu-leaning ease of use, and the surprisingly smooth webcam solution he finds with Irene webcam v2.9.1. He also threads in wider hardware news, from Intel’s new Core Ultra CPUs to SteamOS/Valve’s ambitions, while peppering in practical takeaways about driver support, pricing, and the realities of “SteamOS as desktop.” The episode blends personal anecdotes, product scouting in Asia, and a candid debate about open source, gaming on Linux, and the health of the Linux hardware/software frontier. Finally, Linus pivots to sponsor reads, a lightweight wrap-up, and a tease for upcoming events like Whale Land. Expect a long, meandering, very Linus-style exploration of how far Linux can carry you when you’re literally building a broadcast from a hotel room.
Key Takeaways
- A Rode NT USB Plus microphone plus a bougie webcam can be sourced in a tech mall under pressure, with price negotiations shaping the final deal.
- Irene webcam v2.9.1 on Linux offered a seamless back-up webcam path for streaming without requiring Windows; setup involved simple camera dropdowns and resolution options.
- KubuntU (Ubuntu-based) tooling and Discover store integration can simplify driver/app installation on Linux, sometimes outperforming expectations for hardware compatibility.
- Linux challenges for gaming can work when the goal is practical usability, not perfection; compatibility can surprise you (God of War and Slay the Spire ran well via Proton on Linux).
- Steam OS remains a strategic bet for the long-term desktop gaming vision, despite Valve’s focus on Steam Deck-style ecosystems and potential printer/desktop usability gaps.
- Intel’s latest Core Ultra CPUs promise up to 13% gaming gains at similar pricing, emphasizing a software-augmentation strategy with APO to optimize performance.
- Google Play’s price changes hint at broader shifts in app monetization, including tiered billing structures and new app-store collaboration models.
Who Is This For?
Essential viewing for Linux curious gamers and content creators who want real-world insights into running a WAN Show on Linux, plus practical tips for flexible hardware sourcing and Linux desktop usability.
Notable Quotes
"Linux saved the WAN show, boys."
—Linus caps the intro with a bold claim about Linux's role in keeping the show alive.
"I headed to the tech mall, which the Wikipedia article indicates is amazing."
—Describing the chaotic gear-hunt in the Seoul tech mall setting the day’s challenge.
"Holy crap, I don't have a mic. I don't have a webcam. And I especially have no LED light."
—Illustrates the stakes and improvisation required for the Linux challenge.
"Three solutions suggested by AI all of which apparently are Ubuntu ready... and it just worked."
—Showcases a surprisingly smooth AI-assisted fix for camera setup on Kubuntu.
"Linux challenge is not about do I love open source software... it’s about hey as a gamer how actually usable is this day-to-day."
—Linus reframes the challenge as practical usability rather than ideology.
Questions This Video Answers
- How real-world is Linux gaming on Proton right now compared to Windows?
- What are the best Linux-friendly webcams and mic setups for remote WAN shows?
- Will SteamOS push mainstream Linux desktop adoption or stay gamer-focused?
- Can you realistically run a live WAN Show from Kubuntu without Windows at all?
- What changes in hardware pricing (RAM/SSD) affect Linux enthusiasts most today?
Linus Tech TipsWAN ShowLinux challengeKubuntuIrene webcamRode NT USB PlusIrene webcam v2.9.1Ubuntu/KubuntuSteamOSValve Steam Machine/Steam Frame/Steam Controller','Linux gaming on Proton','GeForce now/Steam on Linux
Full Transcript
There you go. What's up everybody and welcome to the WAN show. We got a great show lined up for you guys this week that almost didn't happen thanks to Linux, but then almost did happen thanks to Linux and then totally did happen and we're so totally back thanks to Linux. So, I've got a lot of gonna be thanks to Windows. So, hey, we made it. No, I got a I got a lot of I got a lot of Linux challenge updates for y'all this week. It's going to be freaking awesome. Uh in other sort of uh tangentially Linux related news, it looks like Valve is still on track to deliver their Steam frame and Steam machine in the first half of this year.
So, that's pretty exciting. They're still working out the details of pricing and exact delivery times, but uh hey, if they don't deliver it in Q1 or excuse me, if they don't deliver it in the first half, then at least we'll have a new funny meme for the Valve Time website. True. Uh Intel's new CPUs are in quotes their fastest gaming desktop processors ever. I damn well hope so. Yeah, pretty much. But hey, we'll talk about that. Hopefully that'll be cool. Also more Linux news. Linux has been hacked onto a PS5, effectively turning Sony's console into kind of a Steam machine that can play PlayStation games.
Honestly, kind of cool. That sounds kind of goated. Kind of sick. Pretty sick. Sick. We got to We got to do the thing. Hold on. I can I think I can Oh my god, that's fine. Yeah, I'm fine. I don't know if I can plan can see it. I'll do it. Vessie, Factor Meals, ODU, and Squarespace along with our rap partner, Dbrand, laptop partner, Razer, and chair partner, Razer. Thank you. I would give anything for a Razer chair right now, Luke. I am sitting on a stool that is so crammed up against the bed behind me that the the like rock hard for whatever reason frame around the bed is digging into my butt and cutting off my circulation.
Rock hard things in your butt. Uh dude, yeah, some of the some of the hotel W show setups that I've had have been pretty precarious. I'm not going to lie. Um but uh what do you want to talk about first? Should we talk about my adventure getting the W show going? I was going to say tech mall, but yeah, let's do that. to be honest. Let's do that and then we'll jump into a real topic. Then we'll come back to your uh tech mall. Sure. It's it's all kind of related and it all started when I was still in the Uber on my way to the airport and I realized, holy crap, I forgot my WAN show away kit.
So, you know how the last WAN show that I did remotely, the quality was like actually kind of awesome. It was very good. Lots of good comments about it. Yeah. Yeah. I was using um an Elgato Wave 3 microphone. So, I was just using like a desktop um like kind of podcasty gaming microphone. Yeah. And then I was And then for the camera, I was using that like super bougie Razer one from our webcam roundup. Yes. The like $400 webcam. And I was like, "This is freaking awesome." And I was in the Uber and I realized I didn't bring it.
It was right next to my luggage. It was where I keep my passport. So, it's impossible for me to forget. Is it was kind of interesting cuz you did bring it to ZTW even like that's how like default it is for you to bring it. Um Uhhuh. but it didn't didn't come on this trip, I guess. Well, what happened is I got interrupted in my packing multiple times because I have kids and stuff with me, so they needed help. And when my routine gets interrupted, I I can't I can't do anything. I I'm useless. I'm worthless.
Hate me. Thanks, Luke. That's the affirmation I needed. Yeah. Anyway, I was in the Uber. I realized I didn't have it. So, Ivonne, because she is, I don't know, a saint was like, "Oh, well, you know, why don't we, as part of our trip, go to a tech mall and maybe you could make a video." Hey, seriously, find a wife who supports you and your career as much as Ivonne does. And that's amazing. Uh, yeah, it's crazy. And I was like, wait, so did she film? Is this like old school? You're getting so far ahead of things.
Sorry, I'm getting excited. I'm getting excited. I'm telling my story. I'm telling my story. So So she um So she's like, "Oh, we should we should, you know, yeah, you you could do that." And I was like, you know, I had really planned to just be on vacation this time. This one time I had planned to just be on vacation. We could just go to Asia and I could not shoot a video in a tech mall. And then I was like, well, okay, let's have a look at what my options are if I don't go to the tech mall.
And I went, "Wait a second. My laptop is running Kubuntu right now." And I have I had a bunch of issues on the plane on the way over here trying to get screen capture going because I was gaming on the plane. And because I I didn't bother to convert my handheld yet, I was like, "Okay, well, my gaming machine for this trip then is my laptop because I have to game on Linux." Dude, I had so many problems, but then not any of the problems that were anything to do with gaming. So, we can talk about those later.
Okay, the point is we got here and I was like, ah, I really don't know about doing the tech mall thing. And then I was like, wait, can I even join the WAN show in my laptop's current state? Because OBS was a mess. I couldn't get screen capture working because I was trying to show some of the challenges that I was having on the plane on the way over here and I wanted to record them and I literally couldn't. Um, still haven't solved it. I'm sure I can, but I just haven't put in a ton of time to solve it yet.
Uh, so I fired it up and I was like, uh-oh, we are in serious trouble here. Because what I didn't realize is that while my camera works, the camera on this uh this ASUS machine that I'm that I'm demoing right now that I'm using for the Linux challenge, super cool machine, Stricks Halo, OLED screen, beautiful machine, awful webcam, just horrendous. So, the webcam sucked. And even worse, my a my onboard audio, it turns out, wasn't working. And I didn't realize that for I've been I've been Linux pilled on this thing for I think two weeks now.
The reason I didn't notice is because I I almost exclusively use my laptop docked. So I'm always running over uh I'm always using a USB audio device or an HDMI audio device which does work or I'm using my AirPods which do work. my actual onboard audio doesn't work. And so I So I'm in the hotel room and I'm like, "Okay, am I gonna be able to do this?" And I just plug my headphones into my laptop and I go, "Holy crap, I don't have a m my So I would normally use this mic." And then I would use my headphones and neither of them were working.
I was like, "Okay, what now? I can't go back to Windows. That's not in the spirit of the challenge. So, what are we going to do? All right. We got to go to a tech mall. We're going to the tech mall. So, okay. One one second. Just just to pause. Just to pause. You're We're getting some choppiness. Is this cuz you're on the other side of the planet like I'm looking for input potentially from Dan as well. This is your laptop. No, this is me using uh a solution that I found. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
All right. All right. That I that I I think you're going to like I think you're going to like the solution. Is it a perfect solution? No. Is my audio good? Is it just the video that chops a bit? Uh the audio I mean it's I can It's clear. It's not as high quality as we've sometimes had on remote calls, but it's clear. I just mean does it chop? Does it chop? No, audio seems fine. I think it's just the video, I think. All right. Okay. So, I headed to the tech mall, which um the Wikipedia article indicates is amazing, you know, and I found some other sort of raw raw Korea type articles that are like, "Yeah, yeah, it's amazing.
It's the best. It's the biggest in South Korea. It's awesome. That sounds great." And then I found some recent reviews on Trip Advisor and found some recent discussion on Reddit that it's maybe seen better days and is quote unquote a ghost town and quote unquote full of scammers. And um so I went in with very mixed expectations. It's gigantic. It's across um over 20 buildings and totals like 5,000 shops. So unlike you know Simlim Square or unlike um the one that I went to in um oh what's it called? The the the the Taipei one.
Um it's not a mall. It's more like um like oh I'm gonna pronounce it wrong but like Wong Bay uh like like the big tech district in uh in Shenzhen. It's it's it's more like that. So it's just like it's like a district and some of it is you know corporate offices and some of it is tech malls and some of it is more like traditional malls that just have a bunch of tech on the ground floor. Right. So, I had a simple objective, Luke. A simple objective. I wanted a desk USB microphone and a bougie webcam at any time.
Anytime has a simple objective. It's like, oh no, why? I feel like you need to have more complicated objectives and then maybe things will be easier. I don't I don't know. It's so true though. Like, seven gamers, one CPU got it done. Yeah. I don't know. For bonus points, for bonus points, I was like, "Hey, it'd be kind of cool to have a little LED light, you know, so that I would actually look dec." Sure. All right. So, I made my way through four or five floors of this place. And first, it seemed extremely promising.
Just about the first store I walked into had a little like razor desk microphone and I was like, "Oh, this is great. This was basically effortless. I'm I'm going to be good to go." But hey, you know, I don't want to buy the first thing I see. I'm not that kind of guy. I want to I want to scrapyard hunt a little bit. I want I want to see what else they got. So anyway, I I I like pour through this place and it dude, it's a journey. It's a journey. It ended up being like a very old school video.
I actually filmed it completely myself. So I'm just on an iPhone. I've got my mic pack and I'm just exploring this tech mall and the ups and downs are crazy. I'm I'm like this is I'm probably more excited about this than like I I don't know that just that sounds great. I don't have much else to say. It sounds awesome. At one point at one point shortly after noticing an entire store dedicated to Noctua, which was pretty cool. I was like on the verge of giving up and I find a Logitech store and I'm like, "Oh my gosh, that's it.
That's the solution to my problem. And I go, wait. Oh. Oh. Uh oh. It's just mice. It's like It's like just mice. Whoa. Okay. He's got two webcams. He has the dinkiest webcam of all time and the other ever so slightly less dinkiest webcam of all time and no microphones. And then finally, I was like, "Okay, well, I don't want to walk away completely empty-handed. I'm going to go get that micro and the shop's closed. Every other shop in the entire mall is open. The one shop I I went everywhere else. Not a single other desktop microphone.
Lots of like crappy tacky gaming headsets. No desktop USB microphones. They're freaking closed. So, I'm just like, okay, we're we are getting to the point now where we are starting to run out of time. And I have nothing. I have no microphone. I have no webcam. And I especially have no LED light. So, I'm just like, I'm going to go I'm going to go to the Noctua store because they have an entire Noctua store. They're just probably based and I'm going to ask them for help because I did ask I did ask some other people for help and they were basically just like no English.
Goodbye. And I was like, okay, I mean, fair enough, right? Like, yeah, fine. Yeah. But which is funny though because in general um I'm in South Korea if nobody figured that out yet from sort of the contextual clues. I everywhere else I've gone people have been like trip over themselves to be helpful helpful. Like I'll just a little bit confused. I I spent like like 4 seconds looking at a metro map just to make sure that I was going down the right stairwell to to go to the right terminus station. Right. And some guy walks over and he's like, "Can I help you?
Do you do you need help? Are you lost?" I'm like, "No, no, I'm actually good." But wow, like, "Thank you." Um, been absolutely incredible. Not in the tech mall for some reason. The vibe was very like like you make eye contact with them and they go, "Oh, foreigner, pretend I didn't see him." Like, and then even like like like laughing to each other that they're they're both like going out of their way to ignore me right now. I'm like, "Okay, sure." It might just be the one building that I started in, though. Anyway, the Noctua dudes, absolute bros.
Uh, we used Google Translate and we figured it out and they sent me to a different building where once again I found something I needed like immediately. Hold on, I'm just going to check. Yeah. Uh, I walked basically through the door and into a shop with a Rode NT USB Plus, which is a perfectly chromulent desktop microphone. Except once again, I was like, "Well, come on. I'm not going to I'm not going to just buy the first thing I see. Never mind that it's like getting to be close to Ivonne and the kids are done at the zoo and we should probably get together for dinner at some point, but I want to look around a little bit because dude, this place was nuts in terms of like camera and production gear." Like, they had I think it was what was it like an FS7 Mark II or something like that.
like multiple used camera bodies of that caliber right next to each other amidst like a hundred other production grade camera bodies just like dude you'd never get away with this kind of thing in North America just like on the ground floor of this mall like right next to the exit like hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of camera bodies just like sitting on the counter crazy not even like like bolted to anything um and like and full of like secondhand stuff tons of secondhand tech actually in both in the first mall which was more like PC hardware and in the second mall that ended up being more like video production and then also PC hardware and also like the bougiest audio equipment.
Dan, you'd get such a kick out of this place. Like I saw turntables that were way more art than they were actually meant to be a turntable as far as I could tell. Anyway, I walk into the place, I get a quote. Okay, how much is it? Nothing's got pricing on it in a lot of the shops. So, they just like they pull out a calculator and it's like you ain't calculating nothing. You're just typing a number in. Like you just they they just use it so that they can I don't know seem like they calculated the price.
Isn't it that thing like don't automotive dealerships do this too? If they don't say it, if they just show it to you, it doesn't like impact as much. I think I think it's like a psychological thing. I think so. cuz dealerships will like write down the number and like slide it over to you on paper so they don't have to say it. Um really I wonder if chat's going to chime in. In Japan they use calculators show prices everywhere too. Maybe it's so that there is trouble of miscommunication barrier maybe. Yeah. Like I could I could definitely see that.
That's what happened when I bought my bike. So he negotiation tool. Maybe it's both. He shows me this price. He shows me this price on his calculator and I go, "Okay, well, you know, I want to shop around a little bit. No, not going to buy the first thing I see." And I go and I look it up after I leave it. I'm like, "Oh my god, that's like $100 more than if I just bought this thing at B&H." So, while it's a a perfectly good desktop microphone, and while I'll be honest with you guys, right, like I I'm, you know, let's let's be real, the land show must go on.
And if it came down to it, I would buy it so that I can be coming to you guys with reasonable quality from halfway around the world. But I don't like just burning $100 like that. It doesn't make me happy. So, I was like, "Okay, I need to try to find something else." Dude, if I'd been looking for like a like a a hammer microphone and I wanted like a professional like like audio mixer or whatever, dude, I'd have been I'd have been so good. So awesome. Uh if I wanted a road like like camera mounted like vlogging microphone, I'd have been so good.
I couldn't find a single other place that had a USB microphone even in this second mall. And I was like starting to lose hope. And then and then this is actually kind of amazing. Totally serendipitous. I was going past this store kind of like talking about the the the one one side of it and Buddy gets like real mad at me for having my camera out because some of the stores here in particular, the gaming ones, they do not want you filming their storefronts. And I don't know if it's because they have knockoff stuff or like pirated software or they have like emulated software running as part of their display.
I whatever their reasons are for it. There was one like uh like very Nintendo shop in particular that was like super mad when I had my phone out. I was like, "Sorry, bro. I like honestly don't didn't even care about your store." So, uh sure. Anyway, I was going past this like this island in the middle of the mall and and I and I I accidentally shot it and he was like bro was like super mad and then that actually made me stop and I realized that and oh and he got mad at me about wearing a backpack too.
He was the first one to yell at me about my backpack. And because I stopped because he yelled at me, I realized that he also had the like the the little hole in the wall next to it and he had an NT USB Plus in there. And I was like, "Okay, well look, we got off on the wrong foot." But I'll tell you what, I'm going to take my backpack off. You can have it. I'm going to go over there and I'm going to look a little bit more closely. And he gave me a way better price.
So, here it is. I'm coming to you guys from a Rode NT USB Plus. And I had long since given up on finding a bougie webcam. So, I went all in, Luke. Chips all in on the table on being able to use my phone as my webcam, which is where the Linux saves the day comes in at the end of this story. Okay. Interesting. Buddy Buddy with the mic also had what what were what were the other things I needed? Okay. Right. Right. Right. I needed a stand and a uh and a light. The light ended up not being great.
I've got this uh what is it? It's a small rig. I want to say P96. Um yeah, more like poo poo 96 because this thing, as far as I can tell, just makes everything I pointed at worse. Dan had me turn it off before the show. So, I also bought a stand and a light that are that are pretty bad. And then from another one down the like just down the walkway in the mall, I got a little phone tripod that's also a selfie stick and and that's what I'm coming to you guys from there.
So, it's just over my my my laptop webcam. So, last night I get back to the room, land shows in the morning for me, right? like it's a 9:00 a.m. starter, whatever it was. So, I'm not going to have time to go out shopping and recjigure a solution. Literally don't have another SSD to like put Windows on this laptop and get that working cuz I've done the whole uh phone as a webcam thing before, but never on Linux. So, last night it's desperation time. First, I get the mic working. the mic's working, but like OBS wasn't recording it for some blah blah blah.
A lot of troubleshooting that unfortunately I tried to record and ultimately I don't think I was able to record because the mic wasn't recording any of it. So, yeah, cool. That probably won't make it into the video. And then I was like, okay, I need to figure out this camera. So I found uh three solutions suggested by AI all of which apparently are Ubuntu ready uh Debian ready um I'm not using Ubuntu I'm using Kubuntu or Ubuntu it's Ubuntu not Ubunt Ubuntu but it's hard for me to remember that anyway I'm using Kubuntu but that's basically just Ubuntu with Kitty so it should be anything anything Ubuntu I should be good to go.
So, I fire up my uh what what's what's it called? Home discover, which is the kind of the app store that Kubuntu comes with. And even though I've already configured it to use um what are the what are the ones that I added? I added FlatHub and I think I added something else. two of the three suggestions for use your phone as a webcam things didn't show up or they like basically yeah didn't work and then I found this one that is rated like three stars Ian webcam for Linux v2.9.1 I installed it there was literally nothing to configure.
Um I I I don't think I have ever used anything this seamlessly before in my life. You've just got a drop down. Which camera would you like? Back camera. Back telephoto. What? What was that? Back ultra wide. What was that? One of them was like a monkey face or something. What do you mean monkey? That's my face, bro. I know. No, I think one of them wasn't you. No, I swear. I swear. Did anyone else see it? I swear. Was there not Dan? Did you see that? Did anyone else Am I crazy? I'm I'm pulling up playback.
Um, that was that was my face, bro. No, different. There's another drop down for video format. You just pick your resolution and you pick your frame rate. And then there's another one for whether you want to use the audio from your iPhone. That's it. And you're just you're just good to go. What? What? Apparently, it was it was zoomed in, super blown out, and upside down. That's my face, though. The telephoto. Just screen cap it. My bad. My bad. Okay. Sorry. Sorry. Hold on one second. It's It's monitor is going to. So, I connected with a cable and that didn't seem to do anything.
So, I'm just on hotel Wi-Fi. It just immediately worked and has not been perfect, but it has like basically worked for as long as I've been streaming with you today. So, I am completely coming to you Linux live and it's going great thanks to Irene webcam v2.9.1. Awesome. That's actually that's pretty cool. It's been it's been sort of almost like a like a a microcosm of my entire Linux experience. Um, even like over the years if I try to do something complicated, it's shocking how how somebody thought of that and built a solution for it, it tends to be.
And you try to do something and when I try to do this when I try to do the simplest bloody thing, it breaks. Let me install Steam. Gone. Let me let me use my phone's camera as a webcam. Instantly works. That's crazy. See, like I would have I would have been scared of that problem to be completely honest. yeah, I'm surprised that was just like one shot. That's really cool, actually. I was I was scared of this problem. And like I I don't know, man. And you know what's funny is uh I saw someone cringing that I'm using AI as part of the Linux challenge.
But there's two things, right? One is that that's how people are going to do it. You don't have to like it, but you do have to just kind of sit down and accept it. Like all of my normie friends and family, they go straight for the AI when they want to know how to do something these days. And you don't have to take my word for it. That's just like a fact. And that's just like declining use of of clickthrough. That's just a fact. That's just how it is. And you can you can hate it.
Y but you do just have to like deal with it. That that's how people are doing things. And what is Sorry, you can keep going. Number two is honestly it's been way more useful. When I was trying to figure out my screen recording issue, I came up I came across a uh like a discussion thread that had I kid you not five different solutions for how I can solve screen recording issues on Kubuntu. I don't want five solutions. I want to know how to fix it. and and and all these individual people are just arguing with each other about the the validity and merit of all these various solutions.
Um some of which like I tried the first couple and they didn't even like apply anymore. Just wasn't that useful. Um and so that's the two that's the two things. So, as part of the Linux challenge, it's something that I would do anyway just because a huge part of my approach is that I'm trying to I'm trying to kind of channel my inner what would a random, you know, and I I I have this one guy that I think of when I think of the slack jaw gamer and I bumped into him at PAX like 11 years ago.
Oh. It was back when Nvidia launched the Shield portable handheld. Remember that thing? Yeah. And I know I know the story. You know the story. You know the story. Okay. So, I encountered this guy who's sitting on a bean bag playing a PC game on this on this Android portable um that is streaming over Wi-Fi, which at the time was absolutely mind-blowing. Like I was so I was so amped about like Wi-Fi game streaming and the fact that this device with like decent ergonomics and reasonable portability that could play Android games and you could stream your freaking PC games over Wi-Fi to it.
It blew my freaking mind and eventually became GeForce Now and and and Moonlight and and Steam Remote Play and just this technology and video was at the forefront of it. I think even just that concept in general also inspired you pretty heavily um towards what ended up being your like my my compute at my home is a server room thing cuz you used to talk a lot about how it would be likely that a lot of people would end up going that route and then distributing compute throughout their house and then that didn't get as popular as kind of a lot of people actually expected but you were still able to pull it off for your setup.
not in the way that I anticipated. Instead, it lives in a data center somewhere in the form of GeForce Now or whatever Microsoft calls their remote Xbox stuff. Anyway, the point is I walk up to this guy who's experiencing the freaking future in his hands and I go, "Um, like, oh yeah, um, what do you think?" And he's sitting there on this bean bag and he's like, "That was cool." I was like, "Oh, yeah. Did Did you do you realize that like it's it's like beaming to you and he's like I don't know. He's just gaming.
He's just gaming. He doesn't care how it works. He doesn't He doesn't want to go any further than like the lowest possible friction path to He's just playing his game. He's like locked in. And I was like, "Okay, well, I'm basically I'm I'm talking to a a vegetable at this point." But it was just it was really thought, oh well, you know, gamers we're like we're very interested in like the hardware and and and how it all you know is configured and what every setting means and and we really care about all this stuff. But no, there is a very very large much larger way larger proportion of gamers who don't care at all.
Not even a little bit. and and so yeah, probably high. Yes, charge nuclei almost definitely like high as a kite, this guy. It was remarkable. Anyway, I forget where I was going with this, but the point is that that's how I'm doing it because that's how people are doing it. And honestly, I can't argue with the result. Worked great. Thanks. I'm I'm I'm coming to you. I'm coming to you over Linux. Linux saved the W show, boys. And I don't I don't have a I don't have much Linux news. Things have been going fine for me.
I think I've already updated Wancho on what's going on with my laptop. Um so I have Linux Mint on there. Um for for I I guess I guess a little bit of an update there just in case you don't know what's going on. Uh cuz in the video I talked about how I've been running Arch on my laptop for a while. Technically, when I filmed that, it was running Windows. And up until fairly recently, it was running Windows, but it was running Windows because it was having a hardware issue. And Lenovo, the laptop maker, was like, "Maybe it's Linux," which is I'm not even upset at them for saying that.
Reasonable enough because the hardware issue that was that was happening was the screen would just like lock and that's kind of weird. So, like it wasn't like the computer would just shut down randomly or anything. The screen would lock. Um, and there was no Yeah. Anyways, so they were like, "Can you try Windows?" So, I did. And the same problem happened. And then I just was too lazy to switch back over because the whole point of running Arch was to just point out that if you live in a browser all the time, it just doesn't really matter.
Um, and then Windows was getting in my way because the start menu stopped working. So, I ra I rage installed Mint because I'm more comfortable with Mint. Um, and Mint's been a fantastic experience. Um, I was pointing out to people before the show that I think it's actually really cool and I don't know how many maybe there's tons of other examples of this. I don't know. I'm not that experienced. Um, but like if I type in SN for snipping tool, screenshot will come up a tool that Mint has. Yeah, it's not snipping whatever. It's screenshot.
If I type in paint, it'll come up with drawing. It it it has like something some form of information that's like these are common things a Windows user would type in a start menu. It's kind of what they expect to come up and then those things tend to come up which is fantastic. Keywords. Yeah. Some aliases, keywords, something. They have some type of list. Um some kind of metadata. Yeah. And it makes it just super easy. Oh my god. Everything I've had to do super easy. I had to sign PDFs. Stuff's already installed. Whatever. Super easy.
What a joke. Um, the biggest problem with computers that I've had in the last week, um, isn't isn't like technically a problem. It didn't stop me from doing anything. Um, but it's been that this computer is Dan and I think it's like failing to Windows update, but constantly trying. Uh because because there's the Windows modules installer worker that for literally hours at this point has been taking up a very significant amount of memory, a very significant amount of CPU, a decent amount of disk, just everything and going like hard. There has been times where we've seen it spin up to over like 40% CPU usage.
Um, and it's just sitting there almost always at the top, the highest process being used. And like I've got I've got Chrome open right now on here with with the the WAN doc and and float plane and chat and all this kind of stuff. And it's it's not even Chrome that's using the most system resources. It's the Windows module installer. Um, I've had some other interesting issues with it. You try to install it and it fails and then to retry it has to download the whole thing again. Nice. And so it's probably downloading and it's so slow and then it fails and tries again.
It's so with with one browser with three tabs open and task manager, I'm at 60% memory, 25% CPU usage because Windows module installer and the service host Windows event log and WI and and a few other things are just cranking like all the time. Oh my gosh. And and uh yeah, so the biggest problem I've had during the Linux challenge has been a Windows computer. Um that being said, I haven't I've been intentionally avoiding some things knowing that they won't work. Um but yeah, I don't know. So here's a question for you. Is that a hack?
because I I have mixed thoughts on this. Like on the one hand, launching a game that says not compatible on Proton DB, that feels like just throwing Linux under the bus, right? Well, okay. But on the other hand, if you go in in good faith being like, I need to accomplish task A. Well, here's my turns out there's no solution. Yeah. No, that's fine. Here's my good faith thing. I don't check. I don't even go to profound DB. Interesting. I run in compatibility mode with 10 10 whatever 10-04 whatever it is the newest uh Proton compatibility mode and I just run it.
Interesting. I don't play as many games I used to I don't game as much as I used to. Everything's been fine. The little tux in your game library will like tell you if it's Linux ready anyway. So you you don't even use that. No, don't look. That's crazy. just as to me that's the kind of thing that if I did people would be losing their minds at me like I'm like I'm trying to I haven't ran into a single problem. If I if it if I clicked play and it didn't launch I'd look into something but there has been no reason to like I'm not I'm not trying to there's I I saw some reviews some people like reviewing our our first video and like some comment threads about it and they're all like oh well he's fine cuz he's like super Linux experience.
I'm not doing in in like the same way that Lionus isn't doing anything. I'm not doing anything. There's no I'm not I'm doing nothing. I I So far it's been kind of luck of the draw. But like you you saw this, right? Like we went down to Florida. I I downloaded Slay the Spire 2 on pre-release launch. I clicked play. I mean, I would assume something light like Slay the Spire would work. But then you can't assume. You can't assume. But but I don't think that's a crazy assumption either, to be honest. But like It also wouldn't be crazy if it didn't It's in EA, right?
Yep. But I I didn't check anything Electronic Arts. I didn't I didn't look up if anyone was having problems before we went into a place with dubious internet. I I didn't plan anything. I I did nothing. I installed the game, clicked play, and it worked completely flawlessly. It's also good. It's It's like Yeah. It's uh yeah, I just uh it's been fun. I um I I I played uh probably about 3 hours of God of War um like like re remaster like not the first God of War game from like the PlayStation or whatever, but like God of War, whatever you want to call it.
Yeah. Um and it was freaking awesome. I don't know if I was getting as much performance as I would have gotten on Windows, but I was getting enough performance. I did run into a weird issue where um my charger I only brought like a little compact 65 watt charger and this laptop realistic it comes with like a 150 watt charger or something like that, but I can I can game off of that charger and it'll like it'll hold the line like it won't charge or discharge. Um, so that was what I brought with me and I did run into an issue where I got down to 10% battery and I got that notification and then I was like, "Oh crap, someone knocked my my charger off on the plane." So, I put it back in and then because that notification kept like coming and going and coming and going because I was like riding 10% forever, the game eventually entered a state where it just got kind of choppy and wouldn't run properly.
So, I had to turn it off, charge up a little bit, launch the game again, and then it was smooth again. But like, realistically, I don't know. I would have You could have an issue like that on a on a Windows PC as well. So, I'm I'm counting that as as it ran pretty darn good. And I'm really enjoying the game so far. I finally freaking playing it. It's funny how that kind of happens for me is it takes like a new device launch or a Linux challenge or something for me to finally get into a game I've been meaning to play for years.
Um like when did that come out? 2018 or 2017 or something. Not quite, but I think I think we're getting close. U there's been like sequels to it since then. Um, but there there is some things like, you know, I'm not playing uh I don't know, basically any multiplayer shooter game. And again, it's I feel like it's less impactful this time around cuz I'm not playing as much stuff. Um, right. Yeah. I mean, your gaming rig has been just like locked away for freaking 6 months anyway. So, it's not like you're like locked in and hyper in deep into a season of something, right?
as you're you're starting the challenge and you know the wipes coming soon and you want to get in a bunch of gaming or whatever. The one casualty is um Tarov released 1.0 recently and you can like escape from Tarov now. You can like complete the game. Um, and I like have some curiosity to do that and finally put like a pin in it and be like I have to go back and and that's the the draw is not strong enough for me to like really care. I think like it's it's one of those we had this conversation pretty early of like it kind of blows and you need to compromise what games you can play because of your operating system and I'm sitting here on Linux being like the experience has been pretty good.
I don't really care enough I think to uh so far this this is even I think that might be a bit of a boomer dad take though it might be but it's where like gaming is not gaming is not much of a central part no no that I know I just mean like gaming in general I don't think is as much of a central part of your social life that's where I'm getting with this yeah there is a weird I saw somebody point out and I don't know if this would work with Tarov maybe it works with other things uh this isn't even a recommendation and like it's kind of I wouldn't want to do it.
I'm I have actually less interest in this than I do in like dual booting which I don't have a lot of interest in. Um but GeForce Now is apparently a way you can get around some stuff like Fortnite. Apparently you can play Fortnite through GeForce Now. Um I I didn't have interest in playing Fortnite before. I don't have interest in playing Fortnite now. U but yeah, like I'm trying to think of what Slay the Spire 1 and two I've launched both of those. Um, Balders's Gate. Uh, my dad and I jumped on WoW. That worked.
You just have to add Wow. You have to go in Steam and then click activate a non Steam game and then just add the installer through there and it and then it'll just proton you. Yeah, it just works. Okay. Which is like, you know, that does take a second. you have to Google like okay what and then the whole internet honestly what's been really really helpful and I wonder if this is a bit of a hack for me is part of the reason why I went with cash is it's based on arch so I can follow the steam deck guides by the way right yep so that was what I ended up seeing for uh woow was a steam deck guide how do I play on steam deck and I was like that'll probably work for me and then yeah it did uh I got to be honest with you.
I've been happy about my Kubuntu choice for pretty much the same reason because Ubuntu Debian are by far the the the most supported when it comes to just like a random application for using your iPhone as a webcam. That being said, literally I'm I'd be really interested if you sent that to me because I figured out recently the whole tarball thing. It's just a zip file. You just open it and then run the stuff that's inside of it and it seems to work fine. I had something that was made for uh Debian work with nothing from my end.
Um immediately and it was completely fine. So, I don't know. Uh let me have a look at what their what their download formats are. Uh oh, yeah, it's a Oh, it's a beta. I actually forgot to mention that that the Iranian webcam is beta for Linux and it just worked 2204 or later required. So they're literally on their site was not an obvious way to um yeah so it's a deeb. So I just so all I had to do was just open it in my uh in my store in my discover store or whatever the stupid thing is called in my discover store and go for it.
Um, so sorry, no, this one's not beta. So the support for Ubuntu is not beta. And then there's a Linux RPM package, which I'm not familiar with. I don't know what that means. I don't know how that relates to your tarballs or whatever. Um, but that one is in beta and that's yeah, RPM, whatever that is. So, when it comes to doing anything not gaming, which I haven't actually really needed a ton of guides for, I've been extremely happy to be on Debian basically to be on Ubuntu. Yeah, I found um you know, Mint just had all the stuff pre-installed like I've been having a good time with Cachi, but I I don't know if I would recommend Cashy to a ton of people.
Um it's I hate to be that guy out of the box. I don't know if I would recommend any flavor of the week dro. And not not because this is a big part of the reason why I think. But because the people who tend to evangelize these dros are self- selecting as people who enjoy tinkering. And so the very fact that they are recommending it tells me that that's probably not what I want. Um, no offense. No offense. And for me, it's been fine. Uh, but it is been like, okay, I have to like go get something for screenshots.
All right. Um, like there's been stuff like that and it's been easy to do. So, I like you. You were talking about how you haven't been using like Thank you. I like you, too. You were talking about how you haven't been using the like forums much and stuff. Um, I've been kind of avoiding them as well. I Me, too. But I've been mostly avoiding them. The level one text forum is is permanently based. But a lot of the other ones like honestly I just don't need that much negativity. You get you get like a a simple question and then it's just 20 pages of people screaming at each other for like often completely unrelated reasons.
It's wild. Um it's it's honestly just kind of terrible. But um level one text form is almost like holy wars are bad and the collateral damage is not worth it. And and you were talking about how like the flavor of the month distros thing. One thing I will give Cashy as much as I wouldn't necessarily recommend it to to new Linux users so much at least in my experience um is their wiki is awesome. If you're willing to kind of like pour through a wiki a bit I I could actually totally see new users using Kashi.
Um, they have like this software list thing where it's like, oh, here's a a ton of different things you might need to do on your computer and here's recommended software that you can use on Cashy. Um, and here's the like package name so you install it super easy. Stuff like that. Um, but yeah, their wiki is sweet. Their documentation is really good. Um, so I've often I' I've kind of defaulted to just like I'm not actually going to look up what people are saying. I'm just gonna go up the wiki and just find the information already there and grab that.
Um yeah. Yeah, it's been uh it's been pretty good. I will say the the Mint experience has been more comfortable isn't safe. Nope. Nowhere is that like toxicity. Yeah, I actually think it's you never tinkered with Windows especially when you had to learn PC. Stop lying. Nobody said that. Nobody said anything about that. It's just it's honestly like it it sucks. I honestly I think it I think it might be worse than the first time we did this. Um which I find interesting. I was I was expecting it to be better after that. like I it it seemed like after the initial very strong reaction um last time around it seemed like they a lot of people stopped blaming the user quite as much when they realized oh wait that was a really bad bug that caused that.
Oh wait a lot of this feedback is really valuable. We actually have a couple of people who between them had at the time probably about 30 years of experience testing tech products doing free QA like maybe this is valuable what's going on right now and a lot of stuff on the developer side got fixed after we flagged it after we had issues with it Linux the experience of using Linux again itself both Mint and Cashachi has actually been really cool. The the the the improvements over the last what four years has been Yeah, it's been about five years.
Wow. That's been one of the really cool things about using Mint on my laptop too is as much as I'm playing around with Cashy. I get to experience the thing that I did last time too and seeing the gap like Mint has come really far. People trash on Mint for not getting as many updates cuz it's an LTS thing and all that kind of stuff. Um, there's other parts of that as well, but it has gotten a lot better actually and I I kind of liked it last time. So, like that's been really cool. And even just using Cashy, like things feel like they've really been worked on since last time we did this challenge.
But the community just h guys, the memes aren't cool. Like, it's actually just sucks. It's very It's very uh acidic. I don't want to go near it too much. And again, there are havens for like the fourth time or something. The level one text forum is awesome. Um that that cashy wiki is freaking fantastic. Um there are places where you can have really good interactions. Um but man, there is just so much prickly I don't it's very like holier than thou mentality. Um I must be right about my opinion that multiple people could be right about situation.
So, this is really important. Um, our my float plane commenter is still upset basically going, "You hold Linux to a bar and then flame it. That's how it feels." And it's like, it's all about the perspective. When you hear me talk about Linux in general, open source in general, you'll hear me be extremely uh you'll hear me praise it like very very strongly because the concept is incredible, world changing is is not an overstatement, right? Uh the free open- source software is is is like you know YouTube I I would I would say is a wonder of the world is is incredible.
something we've never had before and may never see again if somehow we we lose what we have now. This amazing thing and and part of what's amazing about it is that it shouldn't be lost. It it doesn't seem like it it it's possible for it to be lost, but we should never take that for granted either. It's all I'm trying to say. Um so from that perspective, you know, I'm very positive, very bullish. I mean, you've heard me many times publicly talk about how the year of the Linux desktop is coming. I think Steam OS could be the one.
However, when I am approaching something from the perspective of an individual user who is trying to get something done, you're just going to have to put the emotions aside because and so am I. If I go and I click run this software and it doesn't or it has me donking around in the terminal a bunch, then I'm going to have to just give you a reality bomb that most people don't want to do that and that's a terrible user experience. And when I show up on a forum talking about that terrible user experience and you get emotional like you're getting emotional right now and you make it that you know I'm attacking this thing that is precious to you instead of just going okay maybe this thing I love isn't perfect and could be better.
That's destructive. That actually works against um what we're all trying to do and what I am rooting for which is Year of the Linux desktop. But these different perspectives matter and these different framings matter. Linux challenge is not about do I love open source software and do I support it. It's about hey as a gamer how actually usable is this dayto-day and how much work do I have to put into it? Am I It's also not a am I substituting Go ahead. It's also not a Linux sales pitch. Um like I I've I've seen some Yeah.
I've seen some people like upset that the negativity exists. I've seen some people upset that Linus is trying to interact with things in the way that a normal user might and stuff and it's like guys what like what positivity there are 10 trillion I switch to Linux videos on YouTube. There's so many people have figured out that this format kind of works and people click on it. Uh cool sounds great. This is our angle. Everyone's going to have their own. Um, yeah, it's it's interesting, but like it's it is a problem that the community is so tough.
I think being honestly being too being too positive about something I think can can be equally destructive to it if you misrepresent something big. I mean, think about it. If you're shopping for a car, okay, and you walk into the dealership and they tell you it gets 1,000 miles to the gallon and the paint never peels, it never needs to be washed, and the second you know a woman sees you in it, she will be drawn to you magnetically. And you buy this thing and it turns out it's just a car. You're going to be disappointed because the framing of it was totally wrong and you lose trust.
Exactly. And and and you might never buy a car from that brand again. That's why I think it is so important to just take off the makeup and be realistic about what this is like and what the problems are. And if I find a problem, if a problem that I find is that, hey, this OS that everyone knows is bad still gets recommended a lot by tools like Google search and like chat GPT that you don't kind of deal with it that basically everyone uses, then don't be mad at me. I'm just the messenger. Solve the problem.
if that's what you're passionate about. This is off topic. Solve the problem. But you said Steam OS could be the one for Year of the Linux desktop. Uh I don't think it's going to be. I don't think it's going to be probably ever. Um I don't think Valve is going to want to support the non-gaming aspects of it. Um, but that's one of the reasons why I've been playing around in like Arch land and like playing around with a couple different distros and stuff like that is because my current extremely ignorant vibe check is like maybe the path that they're on is going to get a lot of support and I've been kind of seeing that with Cash EOS and like these different types of things.
Um, I don't think if we went back four years ago, and I'm probably wrong about this in some way, uh, was it was Mangaro? You have a button for that. Mangaro was archbased, isn't that right? Is Mangaro archbased? No, I don't think so. Yes, Mangaro is archbased. Is it? Um, yeah. Oh, okay. Yep. Thank you. So that that was like around but that was if I you ended up using that right? Yeah I did I used Mangaro. I forget why I decided to use Mangaro but I ultimately settled on it. So I think that was like Yeah.
No. Okay. Yeah. It's cuz it's easy arch. Or it was. Yeah. I don't know. Might still be. Um but I I think that was like just kind of starting to become a thing as like that could maybe be used for gaming. But Arch was always just the big spooky side of things. uh people didn't really want to touch it. I remember um people you started talking about the AUR around that time and it like it started becoming a little bit more approachable and there was Menaro and a couple things like that and these days now it's like oh it's the gaming thing and Cashios is over there and oh Steam Steam OS is built on this thing and gaming focus gaming focus gaming focus and I think the other things will kind of follow and I think something in that realm might make it which is why I'm trying to familiarize myself with those things uh instead of just sitting in my comfortable Mint land forever.
So, the reason the reason I think it's going to be Steam OS is because um I I believe at this point um and I I've just I've seen too much in our in our last Linux challenges and just with the the development of open source software in general. Um I believe you need a vision for something like an operating system. I think you need a really strong direction and Steam OS has it. And while I do absolutely see your point that with their focus on ultimately like let's let's not kid ourselves selling more Counter-Strike gun skins, right?
Like you know what drives Valve at the end of the day. Um, I can see how you might not have faith that they're going to put the time and the work into the other aspects of of the desktop experience from talking to the folks there, from seeing the direction that they're going from the Steam Deck, right, which is handheld only. It's it's big picture only, right? and seeing how much they wanted to talk about how much they've improved the desktop experience with the Steam Machine. The fact that one of their demos was with a desktop monitor and the Steam Machine running in desktop mode.
Um, the fact that like uh it was a while back we were trying to get this ancient printer working for a video and that was when I realized that Steam OS had no built-in support for printers of any sort. you you had to basically like cludge it in yourself. Um, since then, I believe they do support printers now and there would be no Do you want to double Can can someone double check that for me? I'm going to need a Luke. I don't know here, but I I believe that is a thing now. There is no reason to support printers and and the printing stack out of the box if you don't freaking intend for this to be a desktop operating system.
So to me, the the vision that I see and the direction that they're going are the strongest and the most cohesive and I just don't know. Yes, printer support added in Steam OS 3.6 And I just see how much money they're putting into making the experience better for gamers. And I know that gamers are just one specific use case, but they also are a use case that demands high performance that that that tends to be micro influencers for their friend groups around them. And I just I see momentum building that way. And I I saw a couple comments in the chat.
Yeah, but it's AMD only. Valve would love for Steam OS to be super Nvidia friendly tomorrow, but from, and this is me putting words in their mouth, no one from Valve has told me this. Um, any of this, I'm I'm assuming that they would love for Steam OS to be Nvidia friendly. And what I'm basing that on is that the original Steam machines 10 years ago used Nvidia cards. Valve clearly wanted to use Nvidia at some point. Um, but from what I can tell, it basically just comes down to vendor cooperation and vendor software support.
Something that Torvoltz mentioned has gotten way better from Nvidia now that Linux and AI and Nvidia all have a common direction that they're trying to go in. Yeah. Yeah. Will the gaming hardware follow? Yeah, I uh I think it I think it will. Um, there's also, man, there's also like bigger industry trends that we can look at and go, okay, well, does Nvidia matter that much? You could look at their their gaming discrete GPU market share, what is it, 95% in the most recent report, and go, yeah, yeah, it's the only thing that matters. But like the laptop that I'm running on right now, this machine does not have a dedicated GPU and I don't care at all.
even a little bit. I'm using an APU, but with the performance of the AMD Radeon 8060S or whatever the model is graphics in this thing, I don't care. So yeah, if AMD's market share continues to absolutely suck donk on discreet, but their APUs continue to go the direction that they're going right now where they own the business of Sony PlayStation, own the business of Microsoft Xbox, whatever form that ultimately ends up taking, pretty much own the entire gaming handheld space, and are shipping these incredible high power GPU APUs that are going to start to dominate in laptops.
tops or even small form factor desktops like the framework desktop investment disclosure. I don't know, man. Maybe that whole thing that I remember AMD first talking about with Fusion back shortly after the ATI acquisition. Maybe that whole thing where desktop computers don't need a discrete GPU like becomes thing. Gross. gross. I know. You might be right. I know it's still gross though. And yet and yet I was playing God of War and it was freaking awesome on what at as a highowered solution. Yes. Very expensive right now. But I remind everyone is an integrated GPU.
Icky. What? Integrated graphics, dude. And yet here we are, though. No, I hear you. I hear you. I can accept the reality and still be disgusted by it. There's a lot of that lately. Um, person for sure says, "I don't want soldered on RAM." But guess what, buddy? You already have soldered on RAM. The RAM on your GPU is soldered because it needs to run at super high speeds. We're just using our GPU RAM as also system memory. Nothing changed. Just your your perception changed. Your your perspective changed. Yeah, that that computer that you stick into your computer that is the graphics card.
I that always like really fascinates me. It really is its whole own computer. Like if you look at these days if you look at if you if you really like analyze a whole graphics card, it has the whole everything has everything. Everything, buddy. And like especially the professional grade ones that can do, you know, virtualization and stuff and that have an that it's pretty it's just a computer in your computer. It's funny because like in some ways Intel Larabe was so far ahead of the curve on that where it was general purpose compute that was just hyper hyper parallel and could also be used for graphics and it was just a computer.
Uh but yeah, so so much for Larabby. Yeah. Uh, have we actually done any topics yet? I don't think so. This could transfer us into a a weird jump if we wanted to to the 3060 news. Oh, here here's a good one. Hold on. Last thing. Anna Hikage says, "Fun fact, the Bazite devs just updated the website to make the warning for the NVIDIA deck ISO, which is broken, more obnoxious and clearly stated. Lionus's experience has already made Linux better. And that's the thing, the community zealots are mad. The developers, if they're smart, are looking at this going, "This is free QA.
Holy crap. We should action this." So, shout out Bazite for recognizing it for what it is. Calling something beta in this day and age, I mean, Gmail was beta for 10 years. Calling something beta doesn't mean what it used to. And honestly, the experience that I had on that particular ISO for Bazite was not even the old definition of beta. That was like alpha or pre-alpha. It was completely broken. Just completely broken. So, I don't know, dude. Yeah. Um, where is it? Back then it was beta mail. Now it's Gmail. Thank you, chat. You guys are topic.
Okay, here we go. This is a potentially short topic, but I did want to transition to it just because we're talking about like what GPUs people are actually using and stuff like that. And then we then we can go to what Dan was talking about. But Nvidia reportedly brings back production of the RTX 3060 to Samsung 8nmter production. Samsung is restarting production of their 3060s discontinued in 2024 on its 8nmter node. According to Korean outlet Hank Young, I'm just going to confidently say that and we'll see how it goes. Nvidia's RTX 40 and 50 series.
Both both both run on TSMC's custom 4nmter node, a 5nanmter uh class process because it's all just naming at this point. um that's maxed out producing Blackwell gaming and AI chips. So, the old Samsung 8nm line can run without cutting into nextg supply. The move is being driven by a few things at once. A GDDR7 memory shortage is squeezing RTX50 series supply and Nvidia's high-end AI chips face an uncertain and shifting regulatory uh congressional restrictions in terms of shipping to China and doing all this weird stuff. Uh the older RTX 3060 sidesteps pretty much all of that since it falls outside of the restricted categories entirely.
It's still unclear whether the returning card will be on the 12 gig original or the cut down 8 gig variant. But one of the really really cool side effects of this is people who currently have a 3060 or potentially just 3000 series GPU in general will probably have elongated driver support because of this which is really cool because those cards still kind of rip. Still pretty based. Yeah, absolutely. So like if you're still running a 3060 because hey why not? Um, I mean, there's a ton of people still asking for a few more years out of their 1080s and 1080 Ti.
Um, so I'm sure there's a ton of people still running 3060s. Um, then sick, you're going to have a lot more driver support. There's so many games coming out that really don't need much more power. Um, I'm sure 3060s run something like Arc Raiders, no problem. With that said, if some of the rumors that I've seen about the next generation Xbox are anything to go by and also the PlayStation 6, don't forget that we're at the end of a cycle right now. We're at the end of a console cycle and there's always a leap. Once the dev kits for PS6 and Xbox, whatever they end up calling it, start to roll out to developers.
We are going to start to see next generation games hit development. We're also going to continue to see live service games that continually get their graphics updated like WoW um that are going to keep moving forward and so we shouldn't get we shouldn't necessarily go okay well you know a 3060 ought to be enough for everyone kind of thing but right now I 100% agree. I was actually I was gaming on a 3060 recently for some reason. What was it? Oh right uh I remember we did um the Brazilian PC. Uh that's I I think actually up on float plane right now.
You guys can watch it. Um we ordered PCs from Brazil, which tends to be a couple of generations behind because it turns out that import tariffs are actually a really great way to make everything way more expensive for people who want to buy stuff. That's not a political statement. That's just math. Um and math is math. I don't make the rules about it. So, so we did the Brazil PC and I was gaming on a 3060 and I was playing freaking Cyberpunk and I was like, "Holy crap, is DLSS ever like good these days?" And I'm having a pretty darn good experience right now.
Like, what? Yeah, 30 is still a pretty freaking awesome car. sick. So, if we're going to get more driver support out of this, that's just like I I didn't even really think immediately about like what I would call like a restricted market like Brazil kind of is. Um where this is going to help them even more and that's awesome. Um yeah, so I just thought this was honestly kind of it's it's I could see people taking it as negative news. I'm just going to decide to take it as good news because hey, we could use one of those.
And I like the idea of the driver support extending. But yeah, I think this is great news. Is that a controversial take? No, I just I'm just kind of sitting here thinking like someone might see it as negative because this means that they're not necessarily increasing like they're not increasing capacity and getting out more like 50 series cards. Um, which means that they'll be maintaining the price of those cards. I've wondered for years now why the the low-end one isn't just the last gen one and for a long time that wasn't feasible because the old nodes the GPU the dies would be so big that the cost just doesn't make any sense but for years now you've had everyone Intel Nvidia AMD talking about how well the new product is just more expensive because yes we can make a better one because of the die shrink but but it costs so much more to manufacture that there isn't really like a cost benefit.
And I was like, "Okay, well then why don't you just make, you know, bigger bigger dies on the older node of your last gen card and just keep printing them and that can be your low end." Like I'm I'm super like, dude, if Nvidia wanted to make more than just 3060s. If they wanted to make 3070s, I'd be super down for that, too. Bring it bring it on. Like what is the the AI card a lot of people try to go for? 3090s. 309 24 gig. People still love 3090s, 24 gigs. That wouldn't make any sense though, just because of how much RAM you're putting into it and it's just too much GPU to make for how much RAM you have to put on it for how much performance and how much power consumption you're going to get.
Yeah. And again, I've got I've got people in chat yelling at me. I'm not saying relax. I'm not saying I think it's negative news. I said repeatedly that I think it's positive news. I was just saying that some people might think I'm getting I'm getting that angle right now. Uh oh. It's a tube of meat. It's seasoned. It goes on the grill and it prefer flat meat. It comes off delicious. I'm going to come out and say I prefer flat meat. So much colon cancer. But that's later. My meat should be flat and circular. So not health advice.
Not health advice. Flat really. Okay. More information than I wanted. H. Anyways, no, I was just saying like a shift of direction. I know it's a different process node. I know it's different manufacturing. I know it's going back to Samsung. It's not using the 5 N. We literally just talked about that. I know that's a thing. It's like attention pulling away. It's not potentially increasing whatever blah blah blah. It's still like it's not an argument I even agree with. I was just saying that I could see some people trying to take that angle. Okay, so chill.
Circular meat is fine. Tube tube meat is fine. Anyways, Dan, CW things or something. Get me out of here. Uh, yeah. You blown past more topics. You blown plast coms. Why don't we do the CW announcement and a couple comms? All right. Hey, Creator Warehous's ambitions of being more than just the, you know, merchandise arm of Lennus Media Group are coming to fruition here. L's and G's cuz the Blanks collection is expanding. Uh Luke, if anyone's going to screen share, it's going to have to be it's way ahead of you. What a guy. What a freaking guy.
Uh we are now showing off our blank zip-up hoodie which is designed for easy layering while keeping that clean minimal look. It's available in black and dusty olive and is made from the same 100% French terry cotton as our classic blank hoodies. And we're also introducing a blank hoodie that is not zip-up in dusty olive. You can complete the set with our new blank sweatpants available in also black and dusty olive. These are great for lounging, the gym, or quick errands, and they match nicely with our other tops and hoodies, even older colors that you might already have.
Visit lmg.gg/blanks to shop the collection. And hey, if you happen to be another creator who has some kind of interest in working with us, but you're not that interested in having LT branding all over the stuff that you have, you know, hey, there what about what about creator warehouse branding? That seems perfectly not LTT. Nice. DigDug says, "Blank is pointless." I mean, I prefer it a lot actually and like lots of people do. There's tons of people that don't want to wear uh brand logos. And like I I think our brand logos are subtle enough that it's totally fine.
And there's sometimes where I do kind of like brand logos. I don't know. I go back and forth, but this looks kind of sharp to me. It's subtle. It's understated. It looks nice. It works. It works good. I've I've I've had multiple people tell me, and this blew my flipping mind. I've had multiple people tell me that they would buy the commuter bag if only it didn't have the LT branding on it. Can you just And I was like, dstitcher that, bro, it's 1 cm by 1 cm, black on black. What are you even talking about?
But there are people who are so um how do I put this? Uh very set on a particular mindset goal that they just Somebody in full plane chat said you guys are free. Your point is mute. Yeah, except I've bought blanks that weren't from us before. So my point is not mute. Um it is it is generally good. I'm so triggered right now. M O T. M O T. Moot, not mute. M U T E. Yeah. No, I Yeah. Um I uh as someone who isn't even that good at fashion stuff Not even sort of something that the people who are good at the fashion stuff have told me is that I should have more blank things cuz I always just had like uh convention shirts.
Oh god. Basically, I had 100% of my wardrobe for a long years was convention shirts. And then fashion people were like, "Hey, you should probably just have like a plain white tea and a plain black tea and like a couple other colors and then those can go with whatever and then you'd look a lot more presentable in a lot more scenarios." And I was like, "Oh, that that was like part of growing up." Was like, "I'm an adult now. I need to not have like the equivalent of band shirts but for technology or games. Um, and like those are still cool.
I still wear those, but there's time and place for things. And sometimes it's not up to people. Uh, Brumy in float plane chat says, "Yeah, I had to unstitch the logos off of my LT cargo pants in order to meet work policies." Y, sometimes you're you're not allowed to wear stuff. Um, totally get it. And look, I totally understand the perspective too of uh uh who is it? Uh Bookhorse says, "Don't want to be a walking advertisement. Don't want to be a consumer." And totally get that too. Um but I don't I don't personally consider a 1 cm by 1 cm black-on-black logo on an entire backpack to be consumer level branding walking advertisement.
That's like, come on. What are you even What are you What are you even talking about, buddy? Like, I don't know, man. But either way, either way, we're we're doing our, you know, we're we're doing our part. We're making unbranded stuff. So, now all you have to do is do your part and buy it and then we can keep making it. And if you don't want a blank tease, that's totally fine. I didn't want blank TE's for a long time. It's But they obviously, very obviously have a utility. I I Hold on. I have an idea.
What are you doing now? What are you doing now? T-shirt. Spanky says, "I'd love Creator Warehouse to offer some self-branding stuff. I'd probably buy 100 to 200 pens or pencils if I could change the logo to our companies." It is the kind of thing that we could do, but for a 100 units that would be really tough and it it all just depends on how it's done. Like whether it's uh if it's a mold, it's just not feasible for small amounts of units. Like I think if someone ordered thousands of screwdrivers from us, we could talk about changing the logo for like the plastic screwdriver for something like pens.
I don't want to put any words in the CW team's mouth, but I think it would have to be at least hundreds before we'd be able to look at a logo change. It just it depends on it depends on our suppliers. It depends on lead times. It depends on, you know, how much you're willing to pay for the customization. But hey, it never hurts to reach out. Sorry, Luke, what were you going to say? Uh, my Google search didn't end up working. I I tried to like pull a gambit where I Googled attractive man and then I realized that they were all wearing dress shirts and I was like, that didn't work.
So, I tried attractive man wearing a t-shirt, and I wanted to be like, "Look, they're all wearing blank t-shirts." Uh, and then even searching attractive man wearing a t-shirt only brought up dudes wearing button-ups. I was like, "What the hell?" That should tell you enough, shouldn't It did a little bit. I was like, "Dang." I guess Luke, we just got told. I think so. We just got told so hard. It didn't work at all. Good thing we sell pretty brandless button-ups. Or I mean, maybe we did. Did we get rid of them? I don't know.
Wait, I got it to work this time. And I'm totally right. They're all blank. They're all blank. Every single one of them is blank. All of them are blank. Okay, there's one. One, two with upload your image here. I don't think that counts. Almost all blank T's. Yep. There's a there's a few that aren't, but they're almost all blank TE's. So, yeah. What up? I don't know fashion things, but fashion people told me. And apparently fashion people were right. Surprise, surprise. We sell white, but for shirts. Okay, Dan, you're going to have to guide us a little bit here because we're clearly not I can't see your signs.
Like, Luke's ignoring me. Cool. You're going to plug Whale land or just Okay. You said it to him, too, didn't you? No. Oh, it was just me. We could do that. Okay. Yeah, let's do Whale Land. We have We have locked in the dates for the next Whale Land. It's going to be on May 23rd and 24th. BYOC tickets. So, that is bring your own computer tickets are going to be starting at $80 Canadian. So, what's that work out to? About $60, like $55, $60. And there will be a limited number of whale VIP tickets for $5,000 Canadian.
VIPs will get obviously their ticket to the event, but also a high-powered customuilt gaming PC to game on, a Prismatic screwdriver, a lightweight packable jacket, a premium polo, and a Studio Plus Labs tour. Ticket sales will start this coming Monday at noon Pacific. Whaleand.com, and we will see you there. Uh, Luke, how are those dates looking for you? Hopefully. Good. Oh, yeah. No, I think so. I think I'm like just generally going to be at Whalelands. Um, May 23rd and 24th. May When is Computex? Uh, not May 23rd and 24th. Fine. I think it'll be shortly afterward.
Whoa. It's like what? Immediately afterwards later. Uh, so it's a week later. I'll just Well, normally I go a week early, so maybe I'll just Oh, yeah. Yeah. Maybe I'll just come back a week late. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just fine. I've done that, too. Yeah. That's good to know, though. I'm happy we just figured that out. Uh, but yeah, I'm I'm intending it. Uh, I'm intending to generally be attending. All right, sounds good. Yeah, let's get another topic. jump into another topic. Yeah, look at that. Intel's new CPUs are their fastest gaming desktop processors ever.
And there was once upon a time a time when I would have said, "Wow, the new water is wetter than ever." Uh to in response to that, but in fact, um Intel did have a generation of desktop CPUs that in fact were not their fastest gaming CPUs ever. So, we can't take that for granted. So, this is good news, everyone. Intel is super bullish on the recently announced Intel Core Ultra 7270K Plus and Core Ultra 5250K Plus. These new chips offer four additional ecores or efficiency cores compared to their their direct predecessors, have faster clock speeds, and this has got to be a really big one here, have significantly improved dieto- frequency over their predecessors, the 265K and 245K.
This translates to support for 7200 megat transfer per second RAM. As if anyone can afford that these days. And early support for four rank CU dim modules. Again, as if anyone could afford those. But cool, cool, cool beans. Intel, appreciate you. Notably, these improvements were achieved without Intel increasing the chip's 125 watt TDP. The Ultra 7270K Plus features 8 P cores and 16 EC cores, which actually matches the core count of the flagship Core Ultra 9 295K. okay. And it is also worth noting that while the 295K was and in fact the whole lineup of Core Ultra 200 series was criticized for uncompetitive pricing and lower gaming performance, over time they have improved.
pricing has gotten lower and these new refreshed Aerolake CPUs are apparently looking to deliver up to a 13% gaming increase over their predecessors while coming in at very similar pricing. So, the 250K Plus is going to be starting from 199 with the uh 270K Plus starting from uh this says 199, but I believe it's 299. Yeah. Two uh starting from $2.99. So cheap. No. But a $200 chip that Intel claims is faster than the 9600X from AMD um comes with that many flipping cores. Like yes, some of them are ecores, but these Intel uh hybrid uh pcore ecore chips tend to be great for non-gaming as well.
Not to mention all of the gaming improvements. Man, that seems like it it seems like a pretty compelling value. And it's not just hardware where Intel is trying to make gains like Nvidia. They've realized if you can't win with better fabrication, then you can take the fight to software. Except Nvidia also has been using cutting edge fabrication. But yeah, whatever the point is, Intel binary optimization tool will be part of their Intel application optimization software package and is touted as a first of its kind optimization technology hoping to increase instructions per clock in certain games by leveraging Intel compiler and profiling IP to streamline library and executable performance.
Now, I remember a time not that long ago when we considered that kind of optimization to be like cheating um and using sort of using non-standard uh compilers in order to get a a performance benefit compared to your competition and now they're just playing the game. We live in a very very different world. Um, you know, remember when remember when making changes to the rendering pipeline on a GPU was cheating? And now that's like Nvidia's headline feature for their latest GPUs is all the changes that they make to the rendering pipeline with AI and whatnot.
And honestly, this implementation sounds very different from the old cheaty way where they would um allegedly coers companies into using their tools that benefited their CPUs. It sounds like what's happening here is they're taking scattered instructions from code that might be optimized for older architectures and repacking them to reduce architectural contention. And it sounds like it won't have a negative impact on the competition. It will just perform better on Intel, which maybe is better than it used to be before. Anyone been around long enough to know if that sounds about right? Anyway, we don't know how well it's going to work until we can try out their uh APO software in our upcoming review, but it seems like from everything that we're seeing communication wise out of Intel, they are extremely bullish.
On these, which I would hope so. So, hopefully we're hopefully we're happy about the result. You can hope, but like last time around, hope didn't really get us anywhere. Hope's all we can have, brother. Nothing else is worth it. Nothing else is worth it. Despair is not worth it. It doesn't help you. Anyways, uh thank you. Do you have any supplements to sell me? Uh yeah, I've got a lot of peptides. I Whatever Whatever peptide you want, tell me your problem and I'll come up with Yeah, we should probably advice. Jeez. Uh, so whatever your element, I'll I'll have a pill.
Um, okay. What do we want to do? Google's killing the Play Store Monopoly. That's fun. Uh, by June 30th, developers Oh, you know what? No, hold on. Hold on. We can get to that in a second. First, I want to talk. I had to have the uh I had to have the snake oil folk medicine conversation with my eldest daughter on this trip. Um they they all got $20 Canadian dollars for a souvenir um budget and uh she picked out this little it's like a little woven mat and it has a little cat on it.
It's cute. It's a cat on a mat. Whatever. Sure.…
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