I’m Taking Credit For This - WAN Show April 3, 2026
Chapters18
Hosts kick off the show with a positive news vibe for April, hinting at a week of good news in tech.
Linus Tech Tips savvily covers Linux gains, RAM and DDR5 shifts, Artemis 2, and mind-bending AI memory tech with a healthy dose of on‑air humor.
Summary
Linus Tech Tips’ WAN Show delivers a rapid-fire mix of good news and nerdy deep-dives. Linus notes Steam’s Linux market share climbing to 5.33% with Arch, Mint, and Ubuntu at the top, and hints sampling biases in Steam’s hardware survey while acknowledging real user growth. The crew also highlights DDR5 RAM price collapses in China and probes whether killer apps or cross‑platform titles will cement Linux gaming’s future, recounting recent Linux challenges and tips from the Linux Challenge. On the AI side, Google’s TurboQuant promises up to 6x reduction in LLM inference memory usage by compressing the key‑value cache, a stat that could reshape budgets for home labs and data centers alike. Artemis 2’s moon mission dominates the space segment with a trans‑lunar injection burn and live NASA excitement, fueling both wonder and practical questions about post‑Apollo ambitions. The show isn’t just about tech: Linus riffs on desktop environments (Mint/Cinnamon vs KDE/Cashy), shared experiences with data transfers on Linux, and the evolving economics of RAM as a commodity. Throughout, Linus keeps the mood buoyant with playful banter, sponsor plugs, and teaser notes about upcoming tech builds and “tech house” plans. Expect a candid blend of practical tips, market chatter, and future‑leaning tech fever.
Key Takeaways
- Steam Linux market share climbed to 5.33% in the Steam survey, led by Arch, Mint, and Ubuntu, suggesting growing gamer adoption.
- DDR5 RAM prices in China are collapsing due to shifting markets, with other regions showing signs of price normalization as well.
- Google's TurboQuant can reduce LLM inference memory usage by up to 6x without accuracy loss, by compressing KV caches and using polar quantization plus Johnson‑Lindenstrauss techniques.
- Artemis 2 is en route to the Moon with a 10‑day mission and a crucial trans‑lunar injection burn, marking renewed human activity beyond Apollo 17.
- Linux challenges and “killer apps” matter for adoption; the Deck and cross‑platform titles influence whether Linux becomes a primary gaming platform.
- Mint with Cinnamon remains a strong, user‑friendly option for Linux newcomers seeking stability and a familiar feel.
- Game Date is a new platform idea to schedule sessions for dead/underpopulated multiplayer games to revive old classics like Unreal Tournament 2004 and Battlefront 2.
Who Is This For?
Essential viewing for PC enthusiasts, Linux fans, and gamers curious about the real-world impact of Linux adoption, RAM pricing trends, and AI memory innovations. Also great for hardware builders and data‑center planners tracking memory economics and space exploration nerds following Artemis 2.
Notable Quotes
""Linux market share has jumped by 3.1% to 5.33% with Arch leading the way.""
—Main Linux share increase highlighted by the Steam survey and Arch’s leadership.
""Turbo Quant AI compression algorithm can reportedly reduce LLM inference memory usage by like six times.""
—Google’s TurboQuant memory savings could reshape AI deployment economics.
""Artemis 2 is on route to the moon... the final engine firing, a trans lunar injection burn, happened Thursday at 7:49 p.m. Eastern time.""
—Major space milestone and perspective on modern space missions.
""Killer apps are actually more important than people realize" (about Linux gaming)."
—Editorial note on what drives platform adoption beyond cross‑play.
""This is not How long do you kind want to keep it for?" (about the private jet discussion)."
—Indicative WAN Show style: candid, irreverent, real‑talk about big purchases.
Questions This Video Answers
- How much is Linux Linux gaming actually growing and which distros are leading the charge?
- What is TurboQuant and how could it affect AI memory costs for home labs?
- Why is Artemis 2 so exciting and what does a trans‑lunar injection involve?
- Are DDR5 RAM prices really collapsing in China and what could that mean for gamers in other regions?
- What is Game Date and can it really revive old multiplayer games?
LinuxSteam Hardware SurveyLinux GamingArch LinuxDDR5 RAM pricesGoogle TurboQuantLLM inferenceArtemis 2Moon missionArtemis NASA
Full Transcript
What's up everybody and welcome to the W show. Happy Friday. We uh we're going to take off by starting with this. Sorry, it's going to be a rough one. Yeah, despite it being a good turbulent show. Oh my god. Uh, we've got a great show lined up for you guys this week. It is officially the first week of Good News April. So, with some exceptions, it's all good news all the time on the WAN show. And we're starting with the Steam survey saying that Linux is up by over double its previous market share. Now, that might be well, yeah, we'll have to get into a little bit more detail, but hey, hey, hey, hold on a second.
In other fantabulous spectacular news, DDR5 pricing in China seems to be facing a, this is a quote, complete collapse due to changes in the market. God, is this finally some good news for gamers who just want a little bit more memory? Can we build computers again? That would be cool. I'd be so down. I'd be super down. What else we got? Oh man. Oh. Uh, yeah, I'm definitely prepared for this. Uh, not only are RAM prices dropping because of a particular reason, but also Google's Turbo Quant AI compression algorithm can reportedly reduce LLM inference memory usage by like six times.
Yeah. To like one sixth, which is crazy. A six times reduction or a sixth non reduction. Yeah. Pick one more quick. Uh uh professional show Artemis 2. Oh yeah, you're such a space geek. I can't believe we haven't talked about this yet. There's a few topics relating to that, so I'm just going to say that in general. Yeah, Artemis 2. My favorite one is Outlook. What? Where did this come from? I have a little rabbit hat. WHY IS THIS SO SHORT? The show is brought to you today by Dbrand, ODU, Squarespace, and good lord, I missed the last one.
Oh man. Proton Mail alongside, sorry, our chair partner, Razer. Our laptop partner, also Razer, and our rap partner Dbrand. Who made that? What was it? probably Noki. Yeah, that makes sense. Had to have been Noki. That was That was amazing. That's crazy. That was That was some art. I had no idea that was coming. That was art. All right, why don't we jump right into our headline topic, which is, of course, the Steam survey. So, here, let's uh let's let's fire it up here. And I just want to I just want to open by saying that over one month ago, three people started a Linux challenge.
Mhm. Here we are just over one month later and Linux market share has jumped. Where's the bloody operating system part? There it is. Okay. Operating system. No, not OS version. Good lord. I haven't actually played with this in a while. Click for more info. Where where's the damn thing? Here we go. Linux market share has jumped by 3.1% to 5.33 with Arch by the way leading the way. Mint in second place, Ubuntu in third, Mint again in fourth, Ubuntu again in fifth, and Mangaro bringing up the rear which is arch derivative. So, a few of those could kind of condense in a little bit.
Let's talk about the real reasons cuz obviously it's not because we're doing the Linux challenge that something like this might have happened. Okay, one maybe some sampling bias. The Steam hardware survey is not a complete capture every month of every system with Steam installed on it. It also apparently I I'm I'm reading on foronx.com. Yeah. Uh and if we if we tune in here a little bit, you can see that uh it it was dropping actually. Um Steam Linux ended 2025 around 3.5%, dipped in January, dipped in February, uh and then and then kind of like slammed back up.
And that might be where that sampling bias is from or something like that. I'm not really sure. However, however, overall though, it's up. Overall though, it seems like the trajectory we're on isward is pretty good. And and 5.33% is pretty good. Those are real numbers. Yeah, that's like a user base that you care about now. Yeah. And I mean, look, it's not massive, but it's pretty good. I talked about this back when Valve launched the Steam Deck is I went like look if they sell enough of these things, game developers will simply not be able to afford to ignore it.
And man, does it is it starting to feel like the critical mass is there? Like there are certain game devs that are that have just come out and said we will never support Linux just because of kernel level antiche is essential to our business model and our way of life and therefore it is simply never going to happen and you know what there's going to be a lot of platforms that they can continue to develop for uh Windows they can continue to develop for console I actually I I don't know the status of antiche on Mac OS Like legitimately I just I don't I don't know either.
What I do know is Arc Raiders works on Linux. I just keep running into games. Like last week on the show it was brought up that I I was thinking like well I'm going to need a Windows VM or something to play uh Horizon when it comes out. Fors of Horizon. And then chat was like no you're fine dude. Uh and then I I somebody one of my buddies uh messaged me and was like hey man we should play Arc Raiders again. And I was like, "Yeah, I don't know. Doing this Linux challenge thing. Give me a sec." And I looked it up.
Platinum. It's like, "Oh, okay. Never mind." I don't know if I've talked about this on WAN show, but I I wrote a big chunk about it in my notes for Elijah for the upcoming parts of Linux Challenge. We we know we owe you guys some videos on that. We have all been using Linux and we've all been making notes. I'm still on there. But one of the one of the things that I I wrote was that I think a huge part of the hurdle for people is that they have in their minds that Linux is replacing Windows for them.
And in a lot of ways it is because it's fulfilling a similar role in their life. But hear me out. What if there could be a change in perspective or a change in mindset where instead of thinking about Linux as a replacement for Windows, we think about it as like a as more of like a an appliance, more of like a like a console from a gaming standpoint. From a gaming standpoint, right? Cuz that that's that's the perspective of the Linux challenge is like can as a gamer can I switch to Linux? And if you alter your perspective in that way, all of a sudden you stop thinking, what are the Windows games I can't play?
What are the PC games that my PC can't play? And you start thinking more like an Xbox or a PlayStation gamer from back before everything was, you know, crossplatform or whatever. You kind of go, okay, rather than these are the PC games I can't play, it's these are the Linux games that are available for my console. I run a Linux console. And to be clear, crossplatform is a very good thing. It's a good thing for consumers. Uh greater compatibility is a good thing for consumers. I'll always support both of those things. But if you're looking to make a change when full complete cross-co compatibility of every software forever doesn't yet exist, if you could just flip that little switch in your brain, do you think way more people could just make the shift?
Yeah, I think so. I think there for some people there's like killer apps. I think killer apps are actually more important than people realize. Like I think Halo being really good was like why Xbox mattered and then Halo not being very good anymore is why in a lot of cases Xbox doesn't matter anymore. Um so if your killer app is compatible then it's probably fine. Like I was really surprised to see the Arc Raiders was totally chill. Um but there are shooters out there. uh you know if you're into Counterstrike that also works but I don't think Valerant does.
So if you're into Valerant like this console is not going to be one that you would want right. So same argument. It's completely fine but it's just it's just not going to work for you. Um I I think that argument is fine. It just Yeah, like I said, you fall back on the killer app thing. Yeah. I mean, and I think I mean, if if my experience is anything to go by, you might be surprised. Your your stuff might work just fine cuz even your your your game might have anti-che and it might just not be kernel level and thus be fine.
Like there is a lot of anti-che stuff that works on Linux. It's fine. I'm going to say something kind of toxic Linux neck beard here. Um, yes, killer apps are totally a thing, and I get that, but from a gaming standpoint, do you really need to play that game? This is interesting because I I suspect if we go back a decent amount of W shows, I think you've said the opposite in the past, but you've been probably interested and enjoying your Linux experience enough that you've been slipping now. It's, you know what, I wrote I wrote a couple paragraphs about this as well.
It's less that I'm enjoying Linux so much and it's more I know where you're going and I totally agree. Microsoft is actively pushing me away. Yeah. And and Microsoft is actively pushing me away and the Linux experience has gotten so much better since the last time we tried it. There's still a lot of friction totally for me anyway. I I'm experiencing actively experiencing friction on Linux daily still. I I had to a little bit this past week, but it was solvable. But I was shooting an AMD Ultimate tech upgrade earlier this week and uh it was actually for one of our members of the business team, Sven.
Um he lives in the coolest mom's basement of all time. Seriously, like at one point in the video I'm just like, "Dude, our audience is going to hate you." And he's like, "Why?" I'm like, "Because you have so much cool shit." Like, seriously, it is like the best. It's so cool. And he even has a girlfriend. Like, he's got his CRT, his all his modern consoles, all his vinyls, all his collectibles, a girl. Like, he's living his best life. And I think people are just going to I I I I don't think people can handle it right now.
Anyway, so you guys should watch the video because Sven's energy is he's just kind of like lowkey cool. No, he's dope. And and we had a we had we had a really great time shooting together. But um uh where where was I going this? Right. So we we swapped out his motherboard and CPU because the series is obviously sponsored by AMD. It's AMD ultimate tech upgrade. So we we threw a 9800 X3D in there and uh to go with his he didn't upgrade his GPU, but like that's fine. You could still get some more FPS.
And um we went to fire up the machine so we could just get some B-roll of him gaming, vibing, enjoying his new system and [ __ ] Microsoft. It's It did the thing where it's like your your PIN is not available right now. What are you talking about? What does that even mean? Can you like imagine it? Imagine I roll up at the bank. Okay, I'm at the Costco. I don't have a master card. I pull out my debit card, which is my last resort. Cut my life into pieces, and I put it in the machine. It goes, "Sorry, sir.
Your pin's not available right now." What the does that mean? That doesn't mean anything. So, so, so we, so we're going through this and we have to like, we had to switch which network adapter we were plugged into so we could get an internet connection so that he could log into his Microsoft account with his actual password and then do his 2FA and then put his PIN in. It's like, bro, this is my computer. I'm trying to use it, you know, get out of my way and Microsoft just can't. Yeah, they can't help it. Yeah, like so the the thing that I ran into this actually before we forget, I want to jump back to this on Foronx again.
Yeah. Uh they pointed out that part of the jump appears to be because Valve corrected for Steam China numbers. So simplified Chinese went down by 31.85%. And then that shifted a lot of other things interesting because of those users being removed from the survey. Um and that I I guess indirectly resulted in Linux numbers jumping. So pirated Windows is more popular than not pirated Windows is what I'm reading here. Because if you take out a market that I mean we all know software piracy in China kind of a thing. Huge. Yeah. Um all of a sudden the appeal of Windows goes way down when you go to the more western markets where piracy might not be quite as rampant.
wonder like is is steam deck significantly more popular in western countries that non not China basically a Steam Deck at least at the beginning was not your only computer right like it's a it's a superfluous it's a it's a it's a luxury purchase in in even though it's a it's look I've talked extensively about this in the past it is a heck of a machine for the price that Valve managed to do it at like serious kudos to them for making it so accessible But it is a luxury purchase. It's it for a teeny tiny little um that I didn't have western income, then it would be less likely for me to buy something like that versus like the the one computer that I probably already have.
Um so yeah, no, I could see the Steam Deck being less popular. I don't also don't know if it launched in China at the beginning. I have no idea. No idea. But yeah, it's interesting. Uh, now back to the Linux challenge stuff. I had an experience where we we were kind of talking about this a little bit earlier, but uh, both of my hard drives never is the answer. It has never had an official direct release in mainland China. So regardless of its status as a as a luxury purchase or not, it just doesn't exist there.
So it's probably not contributing to the numbers. Yeah. At all. Okay, cool. Carry on. Sorry. Uh, both of my hard drives are are dying. Um, I had some indication that this might have been, you know, starting a while ago. The hard drive started to get a little bit louder, but it wasn't that bad. And then within the last week, uh, cries of pain started happening. I I was like explaining to Emma that I had to buy annoyingly expensive hard drives and I was like complaining about it and she was like, "Well, do you like have to right now?" And I was like, "Here, come with me." And then I walked over to my computer.
She's like, "Listen, just listen. nothing almost nothing's even happening right now and just listen and she's like oh yeah you need those like now she doesn't even know anything about computers and she's like there's just no way that's right it sounds like there's a tiny hammer in my computer just not good um and part of that process was that I started moving a bunch of data around because I'm like okay well you know I don't have like super mission critical stuff on here it's mostly a game drive and then a like dump drive that I just do random tasks on.
Um, but there are things on here that would kind of suck to lose. So, let's let's make sure I shuffle stuff around and and uh if these do die before the new drives come in. Um, or if they die during a data transfer to the new drives or whatever, I'm going to feel less bad about it. Um, and in doing that, I wanted to format one of the drives because I have also read. So, up until now, I have kept my game drive exactly as it was when I was on Windows, meaning my game drive was NTFS.
But I have read that Proton struggles with NTFS a lot. I've read that, too. So, I was like, "Okay, um I I don't actually know how to pronounce it. Some people have laughed at me pronouncing it this way, but my my OS is is drive is butterfs." I've heard it called butterfs. Is that wrong? You might have heard that from me. I've heard better FS as well, but that seems probably like fanboy nickname. Better FS butter. I'm using better FS. Uh whatever. That thing is my OS drive. But uh I was I was looking into some stuff trying to learn some things and it sounded like for a for a game drive.
I don't necessarily care that much about like rollbacks and stuff on like the reasons why I wanted to do it for my operating system drive. It's less important. So I went ext4. Um, and trying to do that was pretty annoying. I'm just going to be honest. The process was pretty annoying. Even like I did a huge transfer off of one of the drives to another and I just copy and pasted in the guey and then I I noticed just like visually that like I don't think all the files are there. And then I did some diving and like a ton of the files didn't get transferred.
And I started looking into it and the the predominant answer was like why are you using a guey for this? I'm like, bro, it's copy and pasting files. Like, come on. It like I can imagine there being like cooler, better ways, but like I shouldn't have to like command line arsync to just copy and paste some folders from one drive to another. Um, and then I went through that and like I don't love that experience, but it's fine. I can do it. I just I shouldn't have to. Um, it's funny. I actually cheated during the Linux challenge because I had to transfer some files and they were coming off of an SD card that was just in a random device.
It was in a tentacle sync, an audio recorder. And my Linux laptop when I was on vacation like absolutely diarrheaed all over itself trying to read and copy it. Like it was really scary. It it it not only like didn't work to copy it, but it like told me it was corrupted. Oh. And it 100% wasn't. I put it in Ivonne's laptop, her Windows laptop, and it just immediately worked, and I was able to upload it to Drive, and I I suspect it's down to the uh the file system that was on it. It definitely could be.
Uh and I I had that same suspicion as well. And then I tried command line arsync. It also didn't work. Really? same thing happened. Certain files didn't get transferred. Well, see, this is something that I've always found, and okay, I'm probably going to reveal some sort of horrible ignorance that people will mock me for, but hey, it's the W show, baby. This is something that I have never really understood. Why is doing it through a guey different for something like file copies? Why does it not just do the exact same thing? behind the guey. Why does it matter if I dragged them like this or I typed a thing like this?
It wasn't I'm I'm just going to address chat really quick. It wasn't file ownership permissions. Um I think it was just erroring often. I think maybe due to something with NTFS. I'm I'm getting into areas that I don't understand. Um but the way that I was able to solve it was I instead of transferring the entire drive at once, I went through and did one major folder at a time gooey and it worked fine. I just had to like kind of baby it and then it and then I got everything. Okay. Um it just kind of sucked.
I couldn't do the whole thing at once. Um but yeah, why I mean I can understand there's a lot of little options and tweaks and things like arsync has a lot of control over how you want to do the transfer and stuff but then like shouldn't it probably assume do you want it to ignore certain errors? Do you want it not to Shouldn't it probably assume the way I want it to do the transfer is to get the files from here to there for the most part? I don't know. I was pretty surprised by that problem.
I do I do suspect it's just like Linux not playing nice with NTFS. Um and then once the drive was on ext4, I did not have similar problems. Um Okay. So, I I haven't used it extensively yet, but I I I suspect it's just like, okay, I'm trying to bring my Windows drives around with me still. And my my initial very light amount of research being like, can I just leave everything how it was on Windows? Was like the answer was yes. And clearly it worked for over a month. So, it is kind of yes, right?
But it's more yes asterisk there might be some problems. Yes. Temporarily. Yes. kind of like uh when I downloaded that um that beta build of Basite with the Steam Deck experience for Nvidia um where it was like yes, but it probably should have had a much larger asterisk and it does now. So, no one will make the same mistake that I did. Isaac Fig Newton says even within Windows I only do parts of libraries at a time. The file transfer fs up all the time. I don't have that experience to be completely honest. Um it depends.
I know it's like a thing that can happen, but I have not run into with the slower your device. Um, and I mean both the storage and compute, the more chance that it will just like trip over itself and bung itself up. Uh, Windows Explorer is not the most stable piece of software on the face of the earth. I think that's a non-controversial take. Um, so I I can totally see that and I have to give it credit of once I finished the whole process, which was pretty annoying, but once I finished the whole process and got it on to ext4, then everything seemed to be fine.
But you said your drives were dying definitely could have contributed to the errors. Uh, yeah. I would have liked it to have been handled better though, like for to to I might have missed something. I don't know. I think what happened that was such a good Karen line. I'm going to use that someday. I might have missed something. I would have liked for it to have been handled better. Yeah. No, but but but what I mean by that is like when I did the file transfer thing, if if it did error, if there was problems, it should just tell me I did the transfer, but I missed a 100,000 files cuz that's like the magnitude to which it was off.
You missed 100,000 of the shots you didn't take. And if it if it could tell me like, hey, these folders got transferred fine. These like top level folders got transferred fine, that would have been nice to know. The same developer went to work on Apple's transfer to iOS feature the app. It just misses. Did I ever show you the screenshots from that that I got where it was like it's like 40,000 files and it transferred like two dozen or something like that? I think you did. Why did you even try at that point? You should have just not bothered.
But it but yeah, so I think I think using I even heard from people who are like hyper Linux pills and been using Linux for freaking 20 years and I asked them about the NTFS thing and they're like yeah I mean it's probably fine but they haven't used it cuz why would they? I think I think that's something that um is easy for super Linux pill people to miss is that there's a lot of things that it's the curse of knowledge, right? That they know and intuitively do that is best practice on Linux. Oh, and that someone did a workound just in case you don't do it that way, but it hasn't been validated.
It hasn't been tested across every DRO. It hasn't been tested across every desktop environment. It hasn't been tested across every dumb user. Sorry, I should have pointed myself. I mean, it counts and it has and it hasn't been tested across every hardware config. Right. I I even think I have a Okay, tinfoil hat fully on. my drives were dying already. I think the Linux challenge accelerated it. Interesting. Because why would both die at the same time? Both started dying. But the games drive is the main one having problems, but both have bad sectors. But the games drive has like four times the bad sector as the other one.
But like would would anything about your would anything about your file system being not Linux compatible make it thrash more? Here's the thing is apparently Proton doesn't play nice with NTFS and it's the games drive that is suffering more than the other one. Now the games drive just gets more use and always did. Yeah. So I don't know how fair this is and I could I could just be completely a gamer folks. He's a gamer ladies and gentlemen. But I there's like you know Slay the Spire 2. So that's a smaller slower game. So okay that can be installed on my hard drive games drive that's been open a lot.
Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. So has Proton been thrashing more because it doesn't play nice with NTFS? Literally don't know. I have literally no idea. But I I have an I have a thought. Have you pulled the smart data? I have I haven't dove really deep into it. I just know that there are bad sectors. The Linux NTFS driver is reverse engineered and barely works. The stuff Proton tries to do with it will 100% cause file system corruption. Says on a hike that was not when I did my not enough research and I'm accepting that.
I I basically Googled can I can I keep my Windows NTFS drive on Linux to play games and it was like yeah. Okay. And you know what's really funny is because as much [ __ ] as I got for uh settling on Pop OS after googling it and asking an LLM, I actually did find that. I knew that which is why I did a completely fresh install on every single one of my systems and didn't try to keep any of my games drives. Yeah. Yeah. Uh even though I do have one. And to be clear, I was just like, I'm not going to use this because And Oh, sorry.
Go ahead. It was fine except when it wasn't for a month. How much did it cost you? Maybe a drive. Well, no. The drives were already going down. The drives already had bad sectors. It was like I just didn't think it was quite time to replace them yet. They're really big drive, so them having a few bad sectors was like not the end of the world. it might have accelerated it. I was going to have to replace them anyways. Um, and like it did function. So, they were right about it functioning. But yeah, I don't know.
Also, another thing that I did this week, I talked about how I talked about how I might want to do this. Um, I removed my desktop environment and installed the new one. Yeah, I saw I came across a I came across a funny thread somewhere. I forget why I was even reading about this, but it was like, can we stop calling them distros? a distro is just, you know, the desktop environment and it's this and it's a package manager and it's this and it's this and they're all they're all interchangeable anyway and blah blah blah blah blah and it's like okay okay okay Captain Pedantic I mean you want to go you want to go full pedant um then you kind of have to come full circle around to you know what even is the Linux operating system it's a desktop environment and a package management.
It's all these things. So like you wouldn't have you can't just call the Linux kernel the Linux operating system in order to be an operating system. It has to like it has to have all these things. So no uno reverse. Is that true? It doesn't need a desktop environment. Okay. It doesn't need a desktop This is where the Does it need a package stuff comes in? No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't. Okay, hold on. What does it need? It's going to need something. So now we're coming all the way back around. No, defeated. Amazing. Um, but yeah, that it's it's funny because like fighting through NTFS was really annoying, And then I came out on the other end and I haven't used my computer since I did that enough to like really know, but it seems like it's actually a lot better in a few ways and now my hard drive is just like dead, but oh well.
Uh, it was already dying. It is what it is. Replacing my entire desktop environment was so easy. It's I was actually just like stunned. It was wild. Well, I know uninstalling it is easy. Yeah, you could do that without even meaning to do it at all. Um, but yeah, I can I mean, maybe you're not that good. Oh, wow. Yeah, that's that's fair. Um, so I replaced I I got rid of Cinnamon and it's like gone. I I completely removed it. Um, I kept Hyperland, but I'm not actively really using it and I installed KDE.
Cool. Um, and I am now even more strongly of the opinion that if you just want your thing to be smooth and to work, you should probably install Mint and Cinnamon. KDE is sick and I'm happy it's on my desktop and I think I'm also happy it's not on my laptop. Mint and cinnamon is just such I'm like not surpris It's interesting because it doesn't really get talked about that much. Like if you look into the what should I run right now on computers, everybody is going yeah screw you Dan. Uh everybody is going um oh run like Basite or Cashy and and run you know KD on top of them and and then we look at the Steam hardware survey and like a lot of it's mint.
Yep. And Arch Arch is up there and Arch is cachy um and Steam OS which is where a ton of that is coming from. But I think just the like ease, man. Like there there's thing I really have enjoyed KD so far. It feels like the correct choice on my laptop. It feels like the correct choice to go along with Cashy. Sorry, correct choice on my desktop. It feels like the correct choice to go on with Cashy. The things that I'm trying to do on my desktop. KD has been fantastic. I really like the experience.
Um, but like it doesn't feel like the if you want it depends on what you're minmaxing for. If you're minmaxing for less problems, you just kind of want things to work. Uh, you want the tools to just kind of be there. You want it to feel like what you're used to and you come from Windows. Mint and cinnamon is just a fantastic combo. It's honestly just amazing. My laptop never has any problems. It is completely rock solid heart touching. It's amazing. Why don't we talk about some other amazing news? Sure. It's all good news this week.
How about uh and KD is based. It's just they're they're more bleeding edge. They're more performance pushing, all that kind of stuff. And that comes with some fairly minor problems, ones that I'm happy to deal with on my desktop. But yeah, how about some good news for consumers who might have been looking to uh build or upgrade a PC? want to talk about that. DDR5 pricing in China faces this is a this is a quote from I think it's WCCF tech said this uh faces a complete collapse with shifting markets. Let's go. Um this has mainly seemed to have been triggered uh by the release of Google's Turbo Quant.
Uh it it the timing doesn't look like a coincidence. However, I actually recorded a whole LTT video yesterday that was just like a it was kind of a spur-of-the- moment. I have some thoughts on this um where I I look at sort of a longer term trend um that we can trace back to like all the way back to about mid to 3/4 of the way through last year of the bubble kind of already starting to unravel. to mix my metaphors up a little bit. Um, I think that Tur Turbo Quant kind of like when Deepseek landed is just um it's it's really headline grabbing and it's and it's taken the fears that are already in the backs of of memory manufactury suppliers minds about like whether this whole thing is actually really going to just go to the moon forever Artemis style.
Um, and it has caused it has taken that fear and brought it to the front of the mind and turned it into panic a little I I thought and like I don't know, but I I thought it was the Sam Alman comments, them not following through on their ramp purchases. Well, they happened right around the same time. So, it's like it's I It's likely a combo. It's It's definitely a combo. Uh, Taiwan outlet UDN reports that RAM prices in China have dropped more than 30%. And there are even some signs that prices are dropping in the US as well.
Um, as part of the video that I was working on yesterday, here we go. Okay, look. Is it back to normal yet? No. But guys, don't bite a progress gift horse in the mouth. Okay. Um, I do worry a little bit that it's going to be kind of like the GPU situation where the price went up and then they were just like, me. Well, here's the thing, though. I think people are actually just not buying stuff right now. GPUs are effectively a monopoly. Nvidia just decides how much a certain amount of FPS costs and then AMD and to a lesser extent Intel.
I actually really respect what Intel has done and how scrappy they've been trying to make Arc Battle Mage appealing and and make it make sense for gamers at a at a reasonable budget. But AMD certainly basically just goes, "Oh yeah, oh yes, yes, Nvidia, thank you for determining what GPUs are worth in the market." Yes, sir. And they just kind of price their GPUs in lock step with Nvidia. Um whereas RAM has actual competition to a degree. Have there been some price fixing scandals over the years? Yes. But at the end of the day, are all of the major players building out large fabs with huge capacity that have to run and therefore are commodified effectively, meaning that if demand drops, pricing will drop also.
Yes, RAM is a commodity still. There is competition still. And so in the exact same way that we've seen it spike before, I think we will absolutely see it crash again. There's there's no there's no question whatsoever. That's good to hear. And as part of the video yesterday, I was also looking at a couple of other regions. I looked at Canada. Canada actually started dipping a little bit before the States. Uh Germany has started dipping as well. So, I I didn't look too far beyond that because I kind of went, "Okay, well, China, Germany, Canada, US.
That gets me around the world." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Clearly, this isn't just one retailer running a promo at that point. None of this means that the shortage is over. None of this means that pricing is going to immediately go back to where it was. There has objectively been an uptick in data center spending on hardware that will impact pricing to a certain degree. Yep. And the AI buildout is not going to stop. Yeah. But one of the things I get into in the video is how I think that it won't necessarily uh just continue to flywheel completely out of control because it seems like the bean counters are finally kind of going, "Hold on a second.
How many beans are left? Can we really afford to trade all of our beans for computer memory?" And I for one am extremely excited for 5 years from now when all of these data centers are out of date and make absolutely no sense to keep running with energy pricing being what it is and I can get like a couple cool AI cards and put them in like Smash Champs for like cool computer vision. Yeah, some of those AI cards are weird. Yeah, but I mean they should do AI, I don't know if they're going to slot into your desktop computer though.
I It doesn't need to be a desktop computer. Oh, okay. I mean, look, they're going to be dismantling these things. Who's going to take them? Yeah, that'll be really interesting. Like, uh, man, that's another that's another video I want to make. The format of those GPUs that are like a tower. Uh, what is that called? Oh, for crying out loud. I forget what it's called. We saw it on the recent Nvidia uh data center tour. Um, someone someone tell me what they're called. SM something. SXM. SXM. SXM. Yeah. those cards. Like, but here's the thing.
I don't know, dude. Okay, so I I did I did I talk on W show already? I can I can never tell the difference between when I talked about something on W show and when I um did a video scrum and laid out an outline for a topic. So, stop me if I've talked about this before, but Oh, really? A major tragedy right now is the way that data center hardware no longer trickles down to consumers how it used to. Like remember how buying a couple generation old Xeon was like the hack yo to getting sick a sick gaming desktop?
What am I looking at here? Was this an adapter? Yo. Okay. Yeah, that's a thing. All right. I'm a little more excited about the future now. Um, that's sick. I did. Okay. Did I talk about this already? Okay, I talked about this already. But one of the things that will happen because it has to go somewhere like these these giant just money is no object data centers full of tens and tens and tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of GPUs. Like it's not like they're just going to, you know, grind them up to make their bread.
Like they're going to do something with them. And so I them up to make their I I think HomeLab is gonna have an absolute like revolution in five years. Dude, an SXM to PCIe adapted data center card in my house sounds freaking sweet. That sounds awesome. Why only one? And the RAM. Yeah, that sounds like fun. Tinker. Well, it's B. The RAM will be salvageable. The RAM will be salvageable. card. I bet you could liquid cool it so you don't have to deal with the noise cuz these things are like up to like 800 or even more watts or whatever.
They're insane, dude. Yeah, they're crazy. Mr. Omut says Wendle's going to buy it all. I don't know, man. Wendle Wendle's Wendle's pretty uh he he likes to be on the cutting edge. I think he might just have the newer stuff at that point. Uh mineral oil cooling would be super cool. John BR. Um, but yeah, I'm I'm It's a lot of wattage to Mineral Cool. It's It's a little bit I'm super excited and uh I think it's I think it's I think it's happening. I And yeah. Well, I think we're starting to I'm really glad because I've taken kind of a this is temporary stance on this and I've kind of taken some flak for that.
I thought it was going to take longer than this. Why aren't you advocating for consumers more? Why don't you see Micron pulling out of the consumer market as like this terrible, terrible, terrible thing? And I guess it's just cuz I've been through so many cycles. Like RAM, RAM is like this, man. It's always up and down and up and down. And this time it was it was kind it was like a big cycle. Like this was and and it really it it happened really suddenly. Maybe that's and and it was a really awful timing right in the holiday season, man.
Like it just there were so many things about it that just sucked. Yeah. I at the same time though like I don't know I I do think it's a signal. I am very hopeful all that kind of stuff. But like if we look at people have been talking about Micron's stock price. Yeah. If we look at Micron, their their uh their one year, yeah, 392% year-to- date, 16%, 6 months, 94%. But tulip mania happened over a span of half a decade, though. Over the last month, they're only 3 12% down these things. Okay. But but but remember once once tulips started to fall No, I hear you.
Like here here this this screenshot this screenshot is actually um I just don't I'm not 100% convinced it's happening right now. This screenshot is in is in the video. Tulip bulbs 1699 Canadian. Once they started to crash, once the house of cards starts to collapse, it happens. It can happen really fast. Apparently, this didn't make it into the video cuz I just read it last night, but um just because a company is not a public company doesn't mean that shares can't be traded. And apparently, this is scuttlebutt, but apparently open AAI shares are becoming quite illquid, quite difficult to sell.
And uh one of the things that I kind of lay out is that uh I see OpenAI as a very Dropbox like character in this uh in this new version of of the same movie we've watched over and over and over again. Dropbox was was a first mover and a huge name in cloud storage in the early days of the cloud back when back when that was the the stupid keyword duour that you couldn't see a slideshow without having it plastered all over everything, And what they did was the classic Silicon Valley playbook. They got a bunch of money.
They used it to acquire an enormous user base and they focused on, you know, one admittedly super cool and innovative thing and then they tried to convert that user base to a paid user base. It didn't go too great and then the incumbents, the big players, uh, ultimately ate their lunch. And I mean, show of hands, who has the Dropbox app installed on their computer or phone? Anyone? I think your hand can be up because we use it for like scripts or something, right? Buer. Not anymore. Dan. Dan apparently has Drop You still use Dropbox.
I do. What do you like about it? I used to use it more before I had the NAS. Got him. Um All right. The internal sync was great. I don't know. It's just It's just good. Yeah. Quality product. It's just fine. Nothing wrong with it. Nope. But there's also no question that they pay for it. Yeah. Apple and Google and Microsoft have overall won that war. And so I see Open AI as being in a very similar kind of position where they were a first mover, a very early mover, a big innovator, great brand presence, huge user base.
But are they really going to take that and go from losing billions and billions of dollars a quarter to making billions and billions of dollars a quarter? Or is it going to be Google? Oh, Dropbox is not that cheap. No. Well, because it isn't, right? It never was. It was always the whole thing was always fake. It was always VC money subsidizing you to have it for cheap so that you could get locked in later. It's it's whether it's Dropbox or Uber or freaking uh Adobe. Well, actually, no. In that case, it was just Adobe's giant boatloads of money from selling expensive software that they converted into even gianter boatloads of money from selling subscriptions.
That was a different model, slightly different. Uh yeah. Yeah. Discord is another example from Pancrats in the chat. So because of because of all of these this is this really does the video does I admit have a little bit of like string on a bulletin board energy but I'm just seeing a lot of signals and there are signals the other way like Nvidia's only down a little. Um Google's only down a little. Right. And I and I and I point out these things like there are ones that are that you know their stock prices is not impacted in any way.
Uh, Nvidia's I guess they're down. Yeah, relatively low. Not the last five days, but over the last 6 months, one month. Yes. Compared to like uh Oracle and then there was another one that I that I was using as kind of like a proxy for AI companies as well. Um, and and but the difference is that the companies that are only down a little have real revenue. And like real businesses other than just like rah rah rah AI. What if you gen what if you put AI in your video so that you could make video with AI?
And what if you did AI in your butt and then you your butt could be intelligent like like just everything's AI just put every AI in everything like it's like Nvidia has an identity other than AI and so does a company like like Alphabet. I feel like I need a South Park episode on but AI. Uh I mean do you know for sure they haven't done one? I I didn't watch the entire last season. It's it's possible. does seem like the sort of thing they might do. We go all the way back to season 1, episode 1, and the aliens just put AI in his butt instead of a big satellite dish.
what what do you want to jump to? You know what? I'd like to take a moment and say to everyone who is upset about Good News Wow month, don't worry. It's temporary. We're going to we're going to go back to just kind of doing everything after April. But so far it's been kind of nice. I'm actually having way more fun. Yeah. I'm not like angry. I really like Good news show. So far. Um Yeah. I'm uh I'm I feel happier today because we're doing good news show. Want to pick something? Yeah. Do you feel more excited to pick a topic?
Yeah, kind of. Me too. Yeah. Like I scrolled through and saw a few options I wanted to talk about and landed on one that like felt in very in tone with what you were just saying. Where's the la when's the last time that happened? It's a very long time. No, but really though, and I'm not even I'm not even using a copout and talking about Artemis. Think about that. That's crazy. I found another topic that sounds really fun to talk about. That's actually unhinged. Okay. Yeah, do it then. Someone made a website for scheduling play sessions to revive old multiplayer games.
Called Game Date. This is so cool. This I This isn't necessarily new, but I don't think we've talked about on a W show before. YouTuber Batty Batty built Game Date. I think it's just YouTuber Batty. B- A T Y built game date. A a free anonymous scheduling platform for dead or underpop populated multiplayer games. People are already scheduling sessions for things like Unreal Tournament 2004, Battlefront 2, like the original one, I'm assuming, Crisis Wars, and Blur. Oh, cool. Yeah. The site recently added a full discussion board with image board style features, including green text, quote links, and a smuggler's den section specifically for surfacing useful info like server IPs, mods, patches, fans, translations, stuff like that to like improve the experience.
And that's, you know, normally buried in private Discord servers, but is now easier to access. And also it looks amazing. Discuss. Is this not so freaking cool? This is so cool, dude. I think that's awesome because one of the big problems with these old games is they go in a self-fulfilling death spiral where there's a few less people on every time and the server that you like jumping on, nobody's there, so you don't log on to the same level as you. So, no one else logs on and then it just kind of spirals down. And this way you can kind of just spark some some fun experiences playing some old games cuz a lot of these old multiplayer games are still awesome.
They just don't have the the mass that they used to snowball. And I love that you brought up the issue with useful information being buried in a Discord because that's from the doc. But yeah, I know I'm but I'm glad you brought it up because we actually I I forget who I was talking to about it in the office earlier this week. But the way that so much support and and and product and software information has moved into Discord is like, "Hey, you like my project? Come join my Discord." And we talk about it and then it just eventually it's not gets wiped.
And I I was talking about how like um when uh when Pancrats Pancrats did the bulk of the work getting that old VR headset to work, the the the the uh the Forte or whatever it was called when we did that video on it. And the only way that he was able to do that was by digging up old documentation and old discussion around it. And we're in we're going to be we're going to be in this like this information gap, I think, right now. Oh, yeah. when all these ex this exchange of information is happening on a platform that by its very nature will is is is impermanent and then this this I'm not going to lie I saw this Warcraft 3 Reforge Legion TD noob lobby and I was like oh being able to jump into a Warcraft 3 custom game and be decently confident that like you know based on whatever comments or other people signing up or however this works that other people are going to be there sounds awesome.
That is so cool. I think we're gonna lose a bunch of the stream right now though because like how could they not how could they not go play freaking I don't know man uh Dragon Ball Fighter Z uh party mode six player 3v3 tag like just how freaking social does this look? Like remember when remember when games weren't necessarily about maximum sweat? Yeah. Yeah. And you could just like play, you could jump into a random game. People are like playing Jackbox and stuff like just mingling. having a life, you know, feels really cool to use.
I know. Just feels awesome. It's delightfully retro. Steam 2004, if I remember correctly, something like that. Yeah, that's definitely the vibe that I'm for sure. So cool, man. Really cool. And there's a decent amount. I would really highly encourage people to to at least check this out. There's a decent amount of like uh game date sessions on here that don't have a ton of signups yet, but they look for like really cool games. So maybe maybe jump on and go have some fun. Yeah, you guys should you should go check it out because what do you have to lose?
Just do something different. Do something new. Man, I feel like between doom scrolling on my phone or being locked in on just that one game I play, I feel like the variety in my life was kind of reduced for a bit. Oh, yeah. Um that's that's one of the reasons that I uh when I was on vacation recently, uh I had one day before uh we went to South Korea with the family and then I had two days when I got back to for me to be on vacation. Um, and so on the day before I left, I ordered a bunch of parts for that RC car that I've wanted to fix.
And then when I got back, I was just like, I'm going to I'm going to like fix this. I'm going to fix this RC car. Um, dude, I I refilled my shocks earlier this week, and it turns out that oil filled shocks should definitely have oil in them. Yeah. I I didn't know it was I didn't know it was just all completely gone. Yeah. It was just completely empty. And it's one of those things that changes so slowly that you you press on them and you go I mean yeah the springs are on there that's a shock, right?
Um and I don't have a ton of context for it. I don't have a whole bunch of RC cars. I don't go out to the track and you know compare with other people. I like it seems like I have shocks. So no, it turns out that's why my skid plates kept breaking on the front was because I effectively didn't have any flipping I didn't have any damping on the shocks. Um so one of one of the four leaks, but that's half the fun. I'm gonna open it back up. I'm gonna put better grease on the O-ring.
And then I'm gonna seal it back up and and and I'm gonna take it. And the ones that I have, it's for the Arma Granite 4x4 Mega 550 or something like that. The point is I'm just I'm just for the RC nerds that are like, I probably did it wrong. They're known to be bad. The shocks are like known to be leaky and bad. So, at the same time as I ordered new fluid and like did the rebuild on all of these ones, I actually have new shocks in the mail. But it wasn't about that.
It was about just doing something flipping different. Um, moving on. Yeah. Oh, uh, this Dan has a thing. yeah. You were you were actually excited to talk about something. I was. And so we got like dude, it's like this W show feels new again. I'm enjoying it. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see what people think. And it'll be interesting like maybe we can retain at least part of this past April. Yeah, maybe we could have a maybe we can minimum amount of a topic diversity quota. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Something like that. All right. We'll call it the uh No.
I was trying to think of something that would like be DEI or something like the DEI WAN show. Yeah. Neither of us would would would be hosting it though, I suppose. Well, yeah. I mean, what? Him? You got to be kidding me. We Another white dude with a beard. The beard quota. Sorry. Uh, all right. This week, we're doing great. This week, we launched the not a bug t-shirt. This is what happens when you say not a bug, it's a feature a bit too many times. So, the designers decided to make a cool graphic tea out of it.
It's like textured. It Yeah, it's pretty sick. It's a detailed Wasp, but it has like kind of circuitry built into it, so it ends up looking like a literal digital bug. And as always, it's printed on our classic Poly Blend T-shirt, so it's super soft, drapes nicely, and is durable. Oh. Oh, hold on. Uh, Luke Cam. Uh, uh, it says, uh, non a What does that say? Is that not a bug? It's a what? Latin. It's Latin. I I can't read Latin. What does that What does that say? I I sort of figured out. I had context clues.
Terrible education in Canada. Do we Do we say what it means on here? We We just don't. It's got a Latin on it. It's gone. Well, we have the a form of the English translation. It's not a bug. It's a feature. Oh, what the heck? Okay, sure. Yeah, fine. You can you can kind of suss your way through it a little bit. The the sinx or whatever that one I had no idea what that word was, but $34.99 USD, $29.99 CAD on the global site. Get yours today. By the way, oh, I should probably actually check.
uh a lot of people. I think this was probably our most successful April Fools since the we sold our company to Nvidia like like really really old one in terms of fooling people. Um, the number of people that were like super angry about us doing an ICO like rugpull thing Oh, really? was significant. And the number of people that thought that the coin was not real. Was very significant. The coin is real. Lionus coin is real. You just you buy it. It's $20 or $30. you will $20 or 30 Canadian or sorry$ 20 US or 30 Canadian dollars.
You buy it, you get this challenge coin in the mail. It's it's big. It's chunky. It's really cool. And then you get a credit on the store for double the value of the coin. So if you were going to buy anything in the next little bit, you should just buy the coin because you get double the value in gift card of what you spent on the coin. So, it's basically free real estate. I got a message earlier. Do you get to keep the coin? Yes. Yeah. The coin is just it's just for you for keeps for fun.
It's just it's just a cool challenge coin. You can flip it when you want to make a decision or whatever. It's just a cool little collectible. Um it's one per household, but we've already sold through so many of them that I think we're down to about the last thousand. So, we were um we were originally going to do 10,000, which is how many we minted ahead of time, and then like 3 days before, I got to give massive credit to the creator warehouse engineering team as well as the operations team for for pivoting and getting this done.
I was like, let's do more. So, we opened up another 10,000 orders. Uh, but we're going to get those minted over the next little bit and then it'll it'll ship when it, you know, when it ships. Um, so we're doing 20,000, but I think we've moved through about 19,000. So, if you want to get one, it's it's a gift card. It's a discounted gift card. Collectible gift card, free collectible coin. Um, Stephen J asks, is this a way for you to get an income stream to afford the jet? Most certainly not. uh it'll help with cash flow, but what I can tell you based on that this has a cost to us.
Like this is made of it's made of scrap metal. Um like there were nuggets of truth in the April Fool's video. Like the the fact that it's made of melted down uh waste zinc housings from our original screwdriver supplier. That's 100% true. We got screwed over on the shafts and we got screwed over on the housings. Um it it really blew chunks. Uh, obviously we've done okay. We survived it. It wasn't a critical hit, but um it's they're made of of leftover remains of the original 100,000 screwdriver order like uh bungled up production and um they're they were done by a partner down in down in the States.
So we jokingly refer to them as the 11th province in the video. You know, little bit of Uno reverse there. Um but yeah, they were they were actually minted onshore which I think is really cool. Um, so they do have like an actual cost and then we're taking what you guys are paying for it and then we're giving double that in credit. So it doesn't take a mathematical genius to know that we are not making money on this part of the transaction. If you guys want the inside baseball, I can tell you that our hope is that after buying a $20 coin or sorry, a $40 coin for $20, you will spend more than the $40 and maybe buy something that's not on like mega ultra discount, you know, and load up your cart and, you know, maybe we'll make some maybe we'll make something on it.
But if you were to buy the coin for $20 and then buy a $40 item, um, then like no, we're no, we're not. No, we're not. That will not help us pay for anything. That will just be that it'll be fun. It'll be for the LOLs. It'll be a good time. Good times are had by all. That's about it. Uh oh, nice. Right. If you're going to pick up a coin or one of the new shirts or really, I mean, anything on the store. There's so much, man. There's so much good stuff on the store these days.
Um Oh, right. Holy crap. Have we even talked Oh, wait. No, we did talk about these. We talked about these last week. Okay, good. Yeah, fine. Uh flexible magnetic cable management. Um, now is a great time to do it because during the show we do our checkout messages and it's a great way to interact with the show. We don't want people just throwing money at their screens. Quite frankly, I think based on the video that went up the other day, it's fairly obvious that I'm, you know, I'm not going to come to you guys hatinand begging for support.
Uh, we are extremely committed to making highquality products that can stand on their own right. That's why we stopped referring to it as merch. Uh, and we also don't want you just throwing your money at your screen to people who quite frankly should do something for you in return. So, we created checkout messages, which are the way to interact with the show. All you got to do is add an item to your cart. I got it. Oh, Luke's on it. There you go. Add an item to your cart. You'll see the interface to send a checkout message.
Boop. Yeah, I'd like to do that. You type a little message. It goes to producer Dan who will reply to it or uh pop it up on the stream or we'll curate it for me and Luke to respond to. So, why don't we go ahead and do a couple of those and uh let's uh let's let's chat. Let's chat with y'all. Yeah, I'm I'm getting so many in right now that people have been told that the coin is not fake. See, I knew it. It was too believable. Luke, it was really chill up until that point.
Uh what have you done? Okay, whatever. Hello, Al. So many. Hello, Alinas, Luke, and Dan. I'm curious, what motivated the decision to tear the tech house to studs instead of wiring in the crawl or toeboards, especially withus? So, that is actually why um not going to lie, tech house is over budget. It's it's it's it's behind schedule and over budget. Classic surprise, classic LT. Um, but there's there's a number of considerations. Okay, so first of all, the me putting a hammer through the wall and discovering asbestos was obviously movie magic. We knew there was asbestos involved and we did, you know, work with the seller on that knowledge um and fully intended to to deal with it.
Um, but we didn't know exactly how much there was because testing for asbestos is not as simple as like, you know, you getting in there and smelling it. Like it's it's not that simple. You need to take actual samples of the materials, sniff ASMR, analyze them. You have to go sniff them at home or in a in a laboratory somewhere. Um, so we knew about the asbestos. We just didn't know the full extent of it. But what we did know for sure was that around the entire perimeter of the house there was asbestos for days.
So what we did was we we we started some of the demolition. So you guys saw that video. I saw a lot of speculation that uh Lionus was not the one who actually cleared out the basement because he has lackeyis for Unfortunately, all of my lackeyis, you guys may or may not have noticed that were there that day were a solid like 7 in taller than me. Um, I was definitely the one in the basement. Nobody else would have even fit. Uh, any anyhow, so we did the demo video and then we hired professionals to come in and have a look at the perimeter.
So they looked at the perimeter and they looked at some of the other stuff and what we found out was that the like the cocking or the goo or the glue or whatever it is that was used for the electrical wiring, okay, contained asbestous. So once we found that out, what are we even talking about here? What what what are we going to do? We're going to we're going to cut we're going to cut the drywall. we're going to follow every every wire and find every spot where it's got any glue on it. It no, you just you rip the drywall off, you take your lumps.
Um, and it was important to us that whoever ends up in this place, it's we're dealing with the issues, right? Like we're we have a brand to protect. I have my I have my personal reputation to protect, believe it or not. And um I take that extremely seriously uh especially when it comes to issues around safety. So there was no way that we were just going to like sweep literal asbestous under the rug. Right. Like so once we discovered that and they were they had to like cut a bunch of the wiring in order to get it out.
So once they're cutting all the electrical wiring, we got to go down to studs. Um so we're going to have some updates for you guys soon. Uh it did end up costing like 30 30 plus grand or something like that for all of the removal which which blows. But hey, we're going to we're going to make a lot of videos in there. And actually going down to studs does open up some pretty exciting options that we've been talking about like um one of the ideas was you know that um have you watched the tech house tour video?
Have you even been there yet? No, I have not been there. Okay, well whatever. There's this cabinet at the back of what's going to be like the upstairs kind of like theater like TV watching area and we were like, "Oh, that'd be like sick as like an equipment cabinet." Uh, well, we didn't think about it until the drywall was off, but it's like right above the garage. So, without doing any HVAC or anything in there, we could just have like passive venting that just like dumps all the heat from there into the garage rather than rather than dumping it up into that already going to be like a pretty warm room and it might be kind of hard on the HVAC.
So, just like little things like that will be much easier to do now that we've got the drywall off. I do fully recognize that this has all of a sudden turned into like a full home renovation as opposed to like tech makeover. So, tech house 2. Okay, I'm I'm putting my foot down. Tech house 2. We're not taking it down to studs. It'll be we'll we'll have to kind of already committing to adapt around it. Well, honestly, I'm having so much fun already with tech house one. I have heard through the grapevine that you're having a lot of fun.
It's been It's cool. Yeah. I just find it interesting that it's like gotten to me, not even from you, of of people just being like, "Wow." Yeah. It's like he just seems like really like excited and like like he's having a good time. Luke, do you have any idea how much I would rather crawl around in a dirty, moldy, disgusting basement just like finding little treasures and and bringing them up to troll the team compared to sitting in a boardroom? No, I fully understand. Trust me. Yeah, I got you. I get it. Yeah. Like it's Dude, it's I don't know, man.
It's fun. It feels the tech house series feels like classic LTT. I remember when I was in it must have been like grade five or six or something. Um I was in elementary school, the the principal came into our class and was like, I need some help moving effectively furniture. Nice. And he pointed at like me and a couple other as Yeah. and and we went out and helped them move around like a bunch of benches and like stuff to set up. It was it was some like uh big event that was happening in the gym.
Um and I remembered thinking like as I was walking back to class, I was like, I don't know exactly what I want to do as a job when I'm older, but I'd love if it was like going somewhere and doing a task, if that makes sense. And and now I I sit in I sit in Yeah, I was going to say, was this It's the Good News Wan show. Was this story supposed to have a happy ending or This is not really a Good News W show. I I think it's like I I understand why you like it.
I wasn't surprised when people are like, "Yeah, he's having a good time." I'm like, "Yeah, cuz he's out doing stuff." Makes sense. It's so much more fun. I We have to find a way. Like I I told you I told you earlier in the show like I wrote a video yesterday like just just spontaneously. Like we had a cool idea because we saw like an interesting topic. I had a little brainstorm which I often do. I'll sit and I'll do like an entire scrum for a video. I'll lay out an outline and then I'll walk away and then we'll just I don't know we'll make it in like 3 weeks or we'll just never make it or whatever.
But but we but we didn't. We like we agiled up and we were just like, "Okay, no waterfalls. Okay, you're making this. You're we we scheduled you time. Go to your office." Go write it. Good. And so I did. I sat and I just I just wrote it. And it's it's funny because I I I I have written more than probably a lot of the audience realizes because um I'm a kind of a perfectionist about certain things. Um, and so some of the videos that like have a writer credit on them, I like basically just I like basically wrote them.
I I do I I edit very heavily sometimes. Um, and and yes, I feel really good whenever I see a comment on it that's like, hey, and the other person who's credited as a writer, wow, this they did a really good job. I'm like, I'll just quietly feel good about it. But in terms of just can't you just have both of you on there from scratch. From scratch though. I very rarely get to do it these days. And in some ways it's it's funny. I was telling Ivon when I came home. I was like my brain's tired but like a good tired.
It's a different kind of tired. Editing someone else's work which is where where I've flexed my brain muscle the most for the last five, six, seven years. Um, nice. I'm like used to it and like that muscle is like hard, but it's like an uncomfortable kind of hard tense. Whereas like the just from scratch just just writing it muscle. I haven't I haven't flexed it as much, but it was like, you know, like after a workout when you're like good tired when you lie in your bed and you're just like, "God, I'm tired. Oh, I'm going to sleep like a baby.
This is amazing. No, I'm not yet. But like it was that kind of brain tired. It was so good. I'm sending you a message. Yeah. I've completely forgotten what is. That's why I'm sending you the message. He He He wants me to take herbal supplements and remedies. He No, I'm just I'm just I'm just bugging you. I'm just bugging you. He's going full in on natural health products. He's not. And it's not health advice. Neither of us knows. We don't know. We don't know anything. Yeah, don't listen. The thing we're talking about because people started guessing last time and it was way worse.
But uh so I'll just say it, but I'm trying to get him to take creatine monohydrate. Um don't listen to me. Do your own research. Go have fun. I am not a doctor. Hooray. Cool. Good chat. Thanks. I'm talking to him. I'm not talking to you. Yeah. Yeah. That I mean they they know that, right? Like we're we're just talking to each other. They know that. No. None of this is advice. Oh. Oh, I didn't see you there. Was that one checkout message? Yeah, I've got like a hundred. So, let's move on. Hi. Hi, Dan.
Yeah. Yeah. Listen to it again. Luke, long torso and Gabriel Danger. Gabriel Danger. That's an amazing name for you. I really like Gabriel Danger. That's freaking awesome. That's great. Um, Lionus, I might whip that out sometime. Let's go with Let's go with Gabriel. Um, do you think it would be No, sir. Mr. Danger. Um, do you think it would be fun to have the kids react to their or each other's videos of you building PCs with them when they were three? Oh, yes. It's fun. We've done it multiple times. Uh, it's actually something that we do.
We have done as a family at least twice sat and watched them all wi with all the kids and uh I have done at least once with two of my kids on two separate occasions when their friends are over. What? I got to be an embarrassing dad. come on. That is completely in character for me. completely. Definitely. And um it's one of those things where like I've always had a complicated relationship with the idea of of featuring our kids in our videos, especially when they were younger. Um now that they're bigger, it's changing a lot.
My perspective is is has changed quite a lot. We compensate them for their on-time camera. We always have. they are reaching a point, especially my son, where they have have have had experiences of what it's like to be recognized in public for who they are. Oh. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. Come on. Do you think the kids at school don't know what the LT is? Like, I feel like that's different than a random encounter. I feel like they're both very impactful, but in different ways and for different reasons. But do you think the the school sports ball team doesn't go to other schools?
There you go. And stuff. Yeah. Like it just it just happens, right? And so, you know, they can they can they're reaching the point now where and you know, obviously I'm a dad, super biased, but I have super smart kids. Um they're great kids. Uh where we can have conversations about it. uh but in the early days uh before they were before they were even remotely able to understand or consent to anything I had a very complicated relationship with it. I mean obviously like any parent I love my kids I want to show them off.
Um but I didn't want to turn them into like a commodity for the enrichment of the company. Yeah. And so those three-year-old builds were just like they felt at the time almost like a lapse in judgment with the first one and then like something that we had to do with the other two because we did it with the first one and we didn't want the classic well the firstborn got all the love and attention and why are there hey why are there only pictures of my brother? Like we didn't we didn't want to do that.
Looking back at it now I am so glad we did it. I wish we'd done more um because they're such a cool little time capsule. They're one of the only times like Ivonne and I are such like busy parents. Um we only almost exclusively have pictures of our kids taken on our phones, which like if you saw Marquez's uh every iPhone, the same picture on every iPhone thing that he did recently, he did a short or something. Yeah. Anyway, he he did it and you know when I was taking pictures with my phone 10 years ago, it was not great.
Um, and so those videos are one of the only pieces of media that exist of my kids that were shot professionally. Fair enough. So, a lot of people will never have any really. So, yeah, it was really cool. Um, and yes, so yes, I've done that. Thank you for your wonderful Don't check out message. I'm gonna throw you one more checkout message just because we got a lot coming in. Tough question for Lionus. Do you have a favorite cat? Oh. Oh, dude. Okay, look. I love all my cats equally. Actually, I don't. They're just animals and I I don't animal farming it.
I don't actually have the same rules about, you know, my cats and as I do about like people and my family and stuff. I can I can I can love one cat better than another cat. Um, my favorite is is the orange. And I'm trying to find I Oh, I must have Shoot. I must have taken it on Ivonne's phone. I'm going to I'm going to ask her to send it to me. Uh, she did this thing when she was a kitten. Um, can I have that picture of Missy on you? Um, or when? So, she did this thing uh when she was a kitten where she would actually crawl like right up in here when we were in bed and she would like sleep like in our necks.
Um and then when she reached like adolescence, every once in a while she would like crawl under the covers and just like camp herself between your thighs and just like hang there. And then for long time, like 6 months, she didn't do it at all. And I don't know what happened, but over the last week or so, she's just become the biggest mama's girl on the face of the earth. And she's been like sleeping like for hours at night, just like up on Ivonne's chest or like next to her leg. And uh last night she hung out like right between us.
So she was the middle spoon. Uh she was she's just being such a she's like she's dumb. Um, you know, like sometime it's not often true, but sometimes stereotypes exist for a reason. The she's got a single orange brain cell and she just it's firing at half capacity. But um but but she is just she's sweet and dumb, you know? She's just dumb and sweet. She's just just such a sweet dumb little girl. Um our orange really hammer it in there. Yeah. Yeah. And she's and she's just she's such she's such trouble, you know. Um, so her name is her name is actually mischief.
Uh, Missy is Missy's for short. She's just she's trouble. She's just dumb trouble. But you can't get mad at her. She's just too cute. Uh, Brownie is probably the overall family favorite though. I'd say, you know what? Ah, man. Noodle's really great, too. He's He's weird. He's a weird cat. It's a weird name. It makes sense. Yeah. like he he'll like run away from me all day and then I'll be I'll have insomnia and I won't be able to sleep and I'll I'll be like up getting a snack at 2:00 in the morning and he like will almost kill me multiple times as I'm walking down the stairs rubbing up against my legs and just like looking up at me and like like he'll get up on he'll get up on his back legs and he'll like like reach up and like he'll like grab onto me and stuff so that I can't walk away from him like bro where's this where's all this love like the rest of the time.
Um, yeah, they're they're all really great. I I love I love cats. Uh, anytime someone tells me they don't like cats, I basically just go, "I'm sorry that you haven't met the right cat yet because they're they're probably just dog people and their dog was terrorized by a cat, so they just didn't like cats." Maybe that's it. I mean, I'm I'm a dog person, too. I love dogs. Uh, they're just too much work, and that's I did I did so much animal care as a kid that I just I wanted lowmaintenance animals. Uh, horses are just they're so much flipping work.
Yeah. cool though. Oh, they're they're amazing. Oh, I love horses. Horses are If I had to pick a favorite animal, it would probably be horses if I'm being honest with myself. They just We had Arabs. Um particular breed of horse, not uh like people from certain regions of Earth. Like we Arabian horses. So we had Arabs when I was growing up. Oh my god. I don't know how many people questioned that, but all right. Sounds I'm just making sure. I mean, we had that whole incident that one time where I didn't know what a word meant and there was some ambiguity.
I'm just getting out ahead of it, Luke. I'm getting out ahead of it. Um, I'm my own Neo. I dodge my own bullets now. Um, anyway, we had Arabs and they have so hard Arabs. Stop saying it. Just say horses. It's a breed of horse. Just say horse. And they're known for being somewhat headstrong. And the Arabs. Yes. the Arab horses, Arab horses, and um and so all three of our horses, they were ladies and they just so Arab ladies are headdrong. I don't know what it is. I like I I like animals that don't give you unconditional love.
Okay. Yeah, sure. Dogs almost feel too easy in a way. I love dogs, too. Like our dog, Buster, um he would sleep in my room all the time. We were we were like bffs during those years. He was like the best dog we ever had. um love dogs, but in some ways like I almost have like a I I for I have this thing where stuff doesn't feel I don't like the easy path which you know very well. I don't like I don't like the easy path. Okay. And I don't feel I don't feel as deep a sense of accomplishment if I didn't work for something.
And cats and horses are like that. They can be the most loving, sweet animals. They they they absolutely have emotions. Anyone who tells you that, you know, a dog especially doesn't, you know, feel just I don't I don't know how to I don't know how to account for that. They just they clearly not they're clearly not looking. They're clearly not open to it, right? Uh and cats and horses are absolutely the same. Um but they just they have that edge. They weren't domesticated grand scheme of things that long ago. And so, you know, horses, they'll just they'll do stuff, right?
They'll just like, man, they you'd be you'd be working you'd be working on them, right? You'd be shoveling, you know, shoveling [ __ ] in their stall or you'd be, you know, brushing them down or doing whatever it is that you're doing. And they they they do this thing. They do this thing where they they'll they'll look away and they'll they'll step on your foot. They And look, they they unless they're really trying to hurt you, they won't step hard, but they're just they're just letting you know. They they don't they won't break your foot unless they unless they they want to.
They don't put all their weight on it. They they just let you know. They just they let you know. Uh one of one of ours um was being was Yeah. One of our Arabs um her name was crazy. Um actually it was Kila, but we called her crazy uh because she was Okay, let me put it this way. When the vet came to artificially inseminate her, which we only had to do because she kept fighting the stallions, the vet said they put enough tran in her to take down a rhino. And she still like it like like it she she was like still kicking.
She was she was boy did that thing ever have spirit. She she was what a what an incredible horse. Loved her. Anyway, so I so I was riding her one day and um another thing that horses will do is they they'll test you, right? They'll test you. They want to know like who's in control here. They always want to know. They're always testing the limits. And one of the things that they'll do is they will they'll go near trees and branches and stuff and they'll like they'll bug you. They'll like they'll they'll know the entire the path is this wide and there's a skinny sliver right over here that has a branch hanging over it and they'll they'll try to they'll try to take that route just to give you a little you know…
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