Sora is Dead - WAN Show March 27, 2026

We're live. WHAT'S UP EVERYONE AND WELCOME TO THE land show. Okay, seriously though, you need to calm down for a second because we have a huge show this week and you know how we've been talking about the idea of a good news Wan show? Yeah. We're easing oursel into it. Okay. April is going to be Good News Wow month. Okay. If it's not good news, it's not going to be in the win. What if it's extremely important news? If it's extremely important news, we could maybe have a single carve out on tech linked single carve out or or we could do an extremely important bad news WAN show for the first WAN show in May. We should bring back the like really really dark scene for the single carve out bad news. We could do that. We could do then people can easily skip it. It's going to be a month of good news show and we're going to be starting with some pretty freaking good news today. Sora is dead. That's right. Open AAI just flipping flipped the switch. It's gone. We're going to be talking about that. Also, in some mixed news, Meta and Google were found liable in a landmark social media addiction trial. Um, we'll get into in a little bit more depth later, but for starters, um, $3 million in damages to the plaintiff, and that may just be the tip of the iceberg. What else we got? Or the Zuckerberg. I wish I thought of that the first time. Zuckerberg's tip. Uh, anyways, wine 11 is a gamecher in potentially some actually really cool ways. And we have a double jeopardy here. Uh, bigger battle mage has has arrived and uh, Crimson Desert is apparently finally supporting Intel GPUs. No one knows why they didn't, but anyways, that was a really up thing for you to say. What? Zuckerberg's tip. Why would I want to think about that? The show is brought to you today by Jawa, Squarespace, T and Proton Mail alongside our rap partner Dbrand, our laptop partner Razer, and our chair partner also Razer. Let's jump right into our headline topic today, which is Sora is dead. Long live Spud. On Tuesday, OpenAI announced the demise of the video generation app and API that was front and center in a billion dollar licensing deal with Disney just a few months ago. Deal, which is also coming to an end, according to the Hollywood Reporter. OpenAI is also scaling back some of Chat GPT's shopping features as they shift their focus to business and productivity tools, apparently codenamed Spud, as they continue down the path towards an initial public offering. It is not clear whether the core model will be folded into another model uh preserved in some way or just outright discarded as they walk away from Sora video generation. Let's talk a little bit about to start the technical side of a video generation service and why that might not be economically viable like ever. Uh it could be okay for sure it could be but to individual end users I think that's going to be a tough sell. I mean there's there's been a theory craft that like uh you know fast forward hopefully a lot of years and political campaigns could be customtailored per person. Okay. But again that's a B2B use case that's not a consumer use case because it's all about it. Yeah. It's about who's paying for the token because at the end of the day, Open AAI has to figure out and they really don't have a lot of time right now what a business model for their product is going to look like. Did individual users pay for tokens for Sora? Is that how that worked? Um, my understanding is I only used it once for that video Riley and I did. Yeah, my understanding is that you would you would pay for tokens if you want to generate video on it. Yeah, that's a little weird. I I the the thing that I suspect could eventually happen is if like if the platform is trying to generate videos that draw you in. Um like there's been some people raising alarm bells about how this could be a direction for YouTube. Um where YouTube stops being well maybe it starts embracing the name even more um you know and it ends up being content that they're generating for you based on your viewing habits. And eventually there there are no really creators. it's just platforms making content for you as a user. Um, I could see viability there. But yeah, I mean, I never really understood the business model of Sora making any sense and I I don't think anyone else really did either. I don't know a single person who actually really used it beyond the first like few days. I mean, to me, what it was was simply a a marketing stunt. It was it was a billboard. I mean, they clearly didn't do the groundwork ahead of time to deal with the licensing issues that they were obviously going to have with it. They kind of patched together that deal with Disney. I I believe that wasn't the only deal they made. They also worked with some influencers to get permission to use their likeness. Um, so they generated a bunch of buzz that way. But I I heard and I don't know I don't know how true this is. Um how much was Sora costing per day? Let me see if I can find a credible number, but from my understanding it was costing anywhere from hundreds of thousands of dollars to as much as millions of dollars per day. Uh hold on a second. Day maybe. Where is this from? Yeah, I've I've got this post on Reddit that has zero up votes, so I think I'm going to just not quote anything from that. That's what I was on as well. But CBC reports that an analyst Okay, sure. Here we go. I will Oh my god. I Where's the article? Oh, there it is. I'm going to derail this a little bit. We're going to come back to it for a second. Sorry, Noki. Time stamp guy. You're just going to have to kind of work with me here. I have a confession to make. You ad blocking? I installed Brave on my phone. Yesterday for the explicit purpose, for the express purpose of blocking an ad from a page, this is the first time, ladies and gentlemen, that we got them. Outside of content, I have engaged in web ad blocking. How's the hat feel? Um I mean hypocritical, right? Because that's the whole reason that we have the policies we have internally here. That's the whole reason that I don't use it is because as someone whose business is supported by by ads in a not insignificant way. It would have felt very hypocritical for me to block ads personally or for our business to block ads. However, I had and I I kid you not, I wouldn't say this if it wasn't true. I had no choice, Luke. I was forced to block ads. Was it one of those links that effectively if you click it, it just doesn't work unless you have an ad blocker. I'm going to see if I can find the right link. Yeah, this is this is the one. So, I'm going to open this link in Chrome here real quick and I'm I'm going to show you what I'm talking about. It's from uh it's an article I was trying to read on electric. Uh I don't know I don't know how well you guys are going to be able to see this here, but here's the article. Uh Tesla is not in fact operating an autonomous vehicle service. And I wanted to read the comments on this. You know, you know what a fan of comments I am. Yeah, here it is. It's still Oh, nope. Nope. Okay. So, it's fixed now, but it's not fixed because they fixed it. It's fixed because the size of this banner ad is not as wide as the one that I had. So, when I opened up this article yesterday, I was getting a banner that was so wide that it covered part of the first comment here. Okay. Just like this one. And extended all the way to cover the expand button. So, I couldn't click tall. I couldn't Yeah, it was taller. So, I couldn't click expand to see the comment section. I literally could not interact with the website in order to use it. That's pretty sick. Without engaging in ad blocker. Freaking irritating. Anyway, on that note, okay, back to this CBC article. One moment, please. Let me just uh Oh, okay. Oh, wow. One of them disappeared. Generated by Right, right, right, right, right. Uh, so yeah, CBC, hold on. Dollar sign. Here we go. Where we at? Uh, the platform was also by some accounts an expensive flop. In November, one analyst suggested it cost OpenAI about $130 US to generate a 10-second video. That actually doesn't sound that crazy. Uh, based on the 11.3 million daily videos, he estimated this would cost the company about $15 million a day. And that's a number that's kind of hard to pin down because how much of your video generation cost is your fixed cost and how much of it is your variable cost? Yeah. How much of it of it is the infrastructure that you had to build GPUs that are already sitting there in order to accommodate the volume of of tokens of the volume of requests you're getting and then how much of it is the actual energy of that actual video generation task that you did. And it's it's hard to decide how much of that fixed cost you amvertise across how many of your your you know your variable cost u individual engagements, right? So, it's it's going to be hard for us to say for sure, but what I think we can say with certainty is that it was flipping expensive to run with, as far as I can tell, no model to profitability cuz like you've talked extensively in the past about how expensive it is to run a video hosting platform. Yeah. Right. And you know what's funny is, and this is going to kind of this kind of turns the whole idea of AI being an efficiency booster and a costsaver sort of on its head, but let me kind of let me kind of present it this way. YouTube has all of the challenges of hosting a a video platform, right? Whether we're talking VOD or short form or live streaming, you've got to deal with all the encoding. You've got to deal with all the storage. You've got to deal with all the bandwidth. But YouTube has an army, a literal army of free labor. Or at least not free commission labor. Yeah. Like SK like skimmed. So they they will be making money the more of them there are kind of labor. Yeah. But the but but the humans who are uploading content to the YouTube platform that nobody watches. Well, hey, the bandwidth cost is nothing. They do have to store it. That kind of blows and storage isn't getting like cheaper in the marching way that it used to. No. So, so there, you know, there are still things that kind of blow about that. But hey, they didn't pay anybody to make the content. So, they all they have to do is apply their, you know, quality filter and algorithm. And there there's a path to a profitable platform there. Whereas on Sora, every they had to pay for every single piece of content, no matter how good or how bad it was, on top of any encoding and bandwidth and storage. I mean, YouTube is already unassailable without them having to pay whether it's a buck 30 or whether it's 13 cents, whatever it is per generated video on the platform, they ain't paying for it unless it makes money unless it generates revenue. Um, so yeah, it's pretty it's pretty clear that it was it was a showcase for their latest video generation model. And what they're going to do with that, I don't know because they yeah, like just going straight paytoplay, straight B2B is obviously something that they could do. But to your point, you know, how big is the market going to be for that? And something we haven't even talked about yet is how much competition is there going to be there? Because it's not like OpenAI is the only one doing video generation right now. Yeah. That not even like right at that time. like at that time like oh AI social media platforms thing those were those were those were a big deal right okay I'm trying to I'm trying to figure out how much it would cost um for the YouTube and Twitch live viewership of this show right now oh is that we're still we're still kind of building up u but there's like 5200 on YouTube right and about 1,800ish on Twitch. So, let's say that's 7,000. Um, sure. Let's say that hours streamed. We've been doing like four, I think. Well, we did over four hours last week. I totally didn't realize what was going on until the show was over. I looked at I'm like, "Oh my gosh, it's crazy." Let's say I don't know if we're advanced to HD or just standard. Not sure. Uh, do you want me to do something while you're doing that? Do you have a bit of time? I can show it right now. Ready? Yeah, let's see. So, we're doing low latency, which I believe it is on YouTube and Twitch right now. Um, we're not even looking at chat, but we're doing one channel. Channel channel type. I'm just doing standard. I'm not actually 100% sure what the differences between these are. Um, full HD 1080p because I think I'm I'm pretty sure we are streaming in that. Yep. 4 hours streamed, 7,000 viewers. This tends to go up over the course of the show, but let's just keep it where it is for now. and the cheapest area for viewership, right, generally of North America. And it's still 2,000 USD. That's wild. Wait, that's live streaming. Live streaming is expensive. We don't pay that much for every float plane wow stream, do we? Well, there's not that many viewers on float plane, right? Right. Oh god. Yeah, there is a decent amount of viewers on float plane. But that's that's the IVS calculator. So like and obviously you're going to you're going to start getting like volume discounts and stuff. Um, but as far as my understanding goes, like Kick is running through IVS. Which has always been a really interesting part of that whole because IVS, you know, parent company of Twitch, you know, there's 730 chatters on Flowplane, but the chatters menu also doesn't count perfectly because there's different forms of ad blocking that can block that. And we've never bothered to like do the work to make sure that that's 100% accurate, right? Because it doesn't matter that much. What's the value in that? Yeah. It's just like not There are so many You guys let us know for sure every single week. There are like so many things that we could be working on that are probably more valuable than that. Um we are trying to get things like TV app and other things out. Um it's taking time, but they're coming. All right, let's just highlight uh as we move out of the Sora discussion, the time that Luke and Riley tried Sora and played around with it last October. That is over at lmg.gg/flowplane. That's a pretty fun little exclusive over there. All right, Dan. Um the paper says headline topic, but we're done that. I don't know what to do. You know what? Actually, I'm lost and confused. I think I do know what we're doing. No. Okay, I'll take the paper down. There's going to be There's going to be So Why do I bother? There's going to be so many topics today, Dan. But first, I need to Where Why are we doing more? Where is it? What are you doing? I need to do the CW announcements today. Oh, it's like right at the top. I know. I couldn't find it. Listen, can you bring up a new product? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This week, we launched our magnetic cable management flexible arches. They flex, so you can route cables around corners or on rounded things like table legs and put them in all those spots that aren't perfectly flat. Hey, look, it looks like a worm. Way more easily. We used over molding to keep the magnets in a rigid core while the arch itself can bend, so you still get that strong magnetic hold without compromise. 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Uh we have open box commuter backpacks, but they're they're like new. They're in like new condition, and you can get these for just $130 Canadian. There's a bunch of really good stuff in this sale. So, make sure that you check it out now because that's a perfect way to send a checkout message is picking up something either the flexible magnetic cable arches or something from the tax write off sale. All you have to do Oh, shoot. The mystery screwdrivers are apparently sold out. Well, anyway, going to the hoodie. We apparently have smalls in stock still. All you have to do is add something to your cart. Say, "I would like my purchase to appear as a checkout message." It will show your first and last name or it can be anonymous if you prefer. You type up something and you click bippity check out. Your order will go to or your message will go to producer Dan who will reply to it or just pop it up down there or who will curate it for us to do a checkout message response. Dan, do you have any? Should we just do them now? Let's do them now. Let's do one now. Sure. That's all I got. Hi, specifically Luke. It's an interesting name for Luke. Mhm. Yeah, I like it. Specifically Luke. Not Lucas. Not Lucananiel. Not Lucasiah. Maybe that one. Just Luke. Lucas. Actually, I like just Luke, too. Specifically Luke is is a good nickname. Just Luke it. Dear God. Okay. Sorry. I'm going to call you that from now on. Um, anyway, what happened to the hype around the 9070 XT? I love mine, but everyone kind of makes me wish I got a 5070 Ti. Also, I will pay hundreds for a black shaft screwdriver. Uh, I mean, I think it's just like classic Nvidia bias where just like I mean, having what is it 95% market share is going to make people Yeah. Yeah. I don't think it's necessarily that you like made a bad choice or anything like that. It's just look at that. Look, look at look at that. Wow. So, if people are going to talk about cards, it's probably going to be the cards that they have. And if 95% of people have that card, it doesn't even specify the card. It just says, "Wow, there's AMD Radeon TM graphics and there's also AMD Radeon graphics." I think these are on board. Ah, yeah. Yeah, I think these are both like one of them is not trademark onboard ones. Um, so you have to go all the way down to bazillionth place to find a single AMD discrete GPU. It's a generation old and they're they're looking at less than 1% of the market. Of Steam gamers. Then you got to go a generation older and more mainstream. Newer mainstream. How far do we have to go to find a 90 something XT last gen flagship at 0.5%? Oh, fallen to 27% of gamers. Whoopsy doodles. And like it's actually very surprising. Vega 8. It's above the 97. Did I miss it? I don't think so. I I didn't see it. You might have, but I didn't see it. 90s. Yeah. So like I and it's like just like a lot of things it's kind of a chicken and egg problem to a certain degree where a lot of people are just buying Nvidia. Um and that kind of informs the pre-build market. A lot of the pre-build market is only really serving Nvidia GPUs because of that. Um but then a very surprising for me and likely for you because you seem to be in the community of people that's building their own computers. Um, a massive amount of people buy pre-builds, like way more than I ever would have thought. Um, it's it's a huge market actually. Even from brands that you might traditionally think of as DIY, like hardcore like MSI apparently is like I don't know if this is on the record or not. Well, whatever. I'm going with it. What's Cliff going to do? Yell at me. Um, MSI is apparently just like slaying it as a system integrator. Yeah. And like I mean, yeah, it makes sense, right? It's not like they don't have motherboards and GPUs. So like what they could sell you a motherboard and a GPU or hear me out, here you go. It's just it's just obvious. It just works, right? It's kind of funny that the hard part is RAM now. Um but normies are scared of building their computers. I think that's part of it. I think an actually really surprising amount of it is people just don't want to bother. Um like I I experienced this for the first time kind of as I was ending my my time working at like Best Buy and stuff like that where there was a buddy of mine who is one of my supervisors at Best Buy who had moved on and was doing a more advanced job now and we were we were chatting and he was talking about how he was going to he was going to get a computer built by NAX. NCX had a cool service where it wasn't it was pre-built, but you could configure it yourself and then they build it for like 50 bucks or something. It was 50 bucks for a long time. In fact, I think you could get it as cheap as 25 if you used the old classic PC builder interface where we didn't even bother putting together like recommended configs for you. Oh, okay. Like 25 bucks for someone to build your computer and they did a pretty good job. It was warrantied if I remember correctly. They made sure everything worked and they gave you a one-year warranty on the system as a whole. And they treated the sale like a parts sale. So, a lot of hardware manufacturers will actually give you a different warranty for your parts if it was through a system integrator. So, NCIX would give you an invoice for all your individual parts and all the boxes and packaging and accessories. And then there would be another line item for the build that just says build PC build service or something like that. So what that means is 2 and 1/2 years down the line when your NCIX PC warranty is up, you can contact ASUS and get a new motherboard. If you are so inclined. Yeah. So like I actually knew quite a few people who ended up just going that route. I even knew people that like had gotten computers built by me and then were like, "Well, like you're busy. I didn't want to bother you." and it was like 50 bucks. So I just did that and it was like okay. So like I ended up knowing a lot of people who were technical and would have been very comfortable building their own computer just kind of had a lot of other stuff going on and they needed a new computer. It's 50 bucks. And there's so many things like that. I think it's easy for us to be in our bubble where we go, I'm so passionate about this thing and I legitimately enjoy it. Why would anybody pay someone else to do it for them? and we forget about all the other things in our lives that we're just not that passionate about and we just don't feel like dealing with. Like it took me, this is an embarrassing amount of time, but I had a leak in the differentials and a leak in the shocks and I broke the skid plate on this RC car 9 years ago and just just didn't get around to fixing it because I bought it as a kit from Arma and so I didn't piece it together. I didn't know exactly, you know, what the standard of the particular brushed motor is. And I'd never actually installed the differential in the first place. So, I didn't even know how to like get at it and open it. And I didn't even know exactly where all the ceiling O-rings were in the shocks. Like, I didn't I just I didn't I'd never put it together, so I didn't understand how it went together. And that barrier of not knowing exactly what to Google in order to find the answer that you need was high enough that I just it just sat in my garage for years and years and years. Um Avon Fox says, "Never put your toys away broken. Use this mantra for everything." This may surprise you, but the last nine years have been pretty busy for me. Yeah, sometimes you don't really have that that luxury. Peter pointed out like taxes. I actually think that's a a really good but, you know, a little bit more dramatic comparison of like I could do my taxes. I get my taxes done by an accountant these days just because I don't want to worry about it. What if I do something wrong? I kind of really rather it just didn't go wrong. Sometimes the stakes are so much higher than the cost. It's It's the riskreward calculation, right? Cheaper not to pay them. Speaking of not paying, someone else said it's $50 plus $100 for Windows. I'm pretty sure NCX would let you build a computer on the computer configurator without Windows and then they would just have a drive with Windows to test with and they would just take it out and they'd nuke it and then they'd nuke the Windows install. So like, no, actually you didn't have to do that. NCX was kind of based in some ways. there were some very clear I didn't just because they listened to me would not have necessarily meant success. They were headed into a very challenging landscape with Amazon coming hard at Canada and Newegg doing the same. But there were some things about NCX that were pretty cool. Uh I no other computer shop that I can imagine would have let me come in on a weekend, borrow their known good working hardware to troubleshoot my computer so that I could buy whatever replacement part I needed. Like that was that was crazy. And they were just they had a pretty Yeah, let's make it work kind of culture within the rigid confines of their policies. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's I think the best way that I could probably put it. Yeah. So, it's I don't know. I I I understand it is frustrating. I do think this is a big part of the reason why we have 95% market share on Nvidia and like I'm pretty sure zero for Intel, which is why we keep talking about their graphics cards cuz we're trying to help them. Hey, ding ding ding ding ding ding ding top. Is it time for We just proc a topic. Our weekly Intel Arc B5 ADMSRP chat. We haven't done this in a long time. Well, listen, it's not really weekly anymore. It's my weekly. Thank you for that, Dan. I got to call back in. All right, what do we got here? An Azeroth Challenger for 300. Steel Legend 309. Okay, we've got an Onyx Lumi Arc for 289. Do we get any bonuses with it? Do we get any games or anything like that? We don't. No, we don't. 40 bucks over MSRP. Okay. All right. Well, in the midst of the Ram apocalypse, we can no longer get an ARC B580 for MSRP, but there is a silver lining. There's an open box as Challenger final sale, non-refundable. That's for $259. So, it's there. Open box product disclaimer. How scary is this thing? Oh my god. Why wouldn't you just link me to it in the first place? Why you make me click two things? Previously open and unused. usually do not come with a warranty. However, warranty may be available if it was never registered by the previous owner. Oo, that's a accessories may or may not be included. Can be pretty sketch for certain products. Like, if it didn't come with the IO shield for a motherboard, I'd be pretty cheesed. Yeah, I'd be pretty irritated by that, too. With a GPU, I'd say there's not too many accessories I really need. Oh, yeah, that's fair. Um, uh, 289, that's a, that's a downer, but I also can't go too hard at, uh, Onyx or at Intel given the current state of things and the fact that that is a 12 gig GPU for 289 and you sure as heck are not getting anything with 12 gigs for that cheap from anyone else. If Intel is listening, if you guys could somehow flip the script, there's going to be a topic in here about how uh Crimson Desert didn't support Intel cards. We we'll talk about that more in the future and how it does now. Um but if you want to flip the script on that, it could be really interesting considering it does now. Mhm. Get it get it optimized a little bit. And then bundle it. That That'd be crazy to to take it from like it didn't work at all to it's now bundled with the card, I think would be really cool. be crazy. I'd love that. And I think I think um Crimson Desert Steam available now. Yes, I was totally born in 1983 uh on January 1st. Yeah, it's very positive. People seem to like it. I haven't played it, but 83% positive. Wow. Yeah, that's impressive. All right, cool. Meanwhile, a 5060 with only 8 gigs of VRAM is 370 bucks. So, ArcB 580 is still looking like a pretty spectacular value if you buy one. I think we have an affiliate code. I always forget was it what it is? Is it just LMG.gg/newag? Plane chats got floatplane chats got me. Thanks. Floatplane chat. What did they say though? I didn't see it. Yeah, lmg.ggneweag. Nice. All right. Should we jump right into a new topic? Yeah. Routers. Actually, I want to go with some good news. Can we do some good news? We can do some good news. Do you want to do some medium news? No. I want to do good news. Wine 11. Looks like an absolute flipping game changer. And the timing of this right in the midst of Linux challenge while while we're while we're talking about Did you see that Reddit thread on the uh LT subreddit this week? Someone's like, "I decided to do the Linux challenge alongside Elijah and Elijah." Yeah, I saw that, too. Not going back. Really cool. Um, all right. for the first time. Wine 11. So wine is short for wine is not an emulator. It's the foundation of uh of Proton and running x86 games on Linux. Um anywh who wine 11 uses anti-sync a wine-specific implementation of the anti-synchronization primitives mutxes semaphors events etc that are baked deep into the windows kernel that are relied upon to keep the various threads of modern multi-threaded applications particularly games coordinated up until now wine and by extension proton have utilized esync and fsync which were clever workarounds that were developed by Elizabeth Figua at Codewavers which um had some issues and it's like not her fault but were a massive jump but they but they but they had some challenges because they just weren't deep enough with anti-sync. Figueroa abandons the approach of trying to replicate Windows behavior with existing Linux primitives and instead introduces a new kernel driver. Now we're going kernel baby that directly models the ants synchronization API and exposes a /dev/tsync device for wine to talk to. These new features have already been in use in some distros including basite but beginning with kernel 6.14. The changes have been merged into the mainline Linux kernel meaning that users of more mainstream distributions won't have to go out of their way to benefit from the new code. Awesome. Now, for many changes or for many changes, for many games, this is going to be a small or even completely insignificant change, but for some games, particularly heavily multi-threaded games, the impact is uh pretty impressive. Dirt 3 is highlighted here. That's ridiculous. Went from 110.6 6 to 860.7 frames per second. Wow. Tiny Tina's Wonderlands jumped from 130 to 360 and some previously unplayable games outright like COD Black Ops 1 are now playable. In other Wine news, Wine 11 now has its own complete implementation of WoW 64. So that's Windows 32-bit on Windows 64-bit. the subsystem that allows 32-bit and even 16-bit Windows applications to run on 64-bit systems without needing multi-lib packages. That is so cool. There's a bunch of other smaller updates and tweaks that all come together to make the experience of Windows gaming on Linux the best it's ever been. And you can check out uh Dan, do you want to throw the link to the XDA developers article that um that brought this to our attention in the various chats? Another thing that feels fantast Wow, voice crack that feels fantastic about this. Yeah, I'm really excited about line 11. Another thing that's really exciting about this is you seem to be cursed in regards to timing, right? There was the the weird steam bug the first time and then there was the like whatever. I don't know. I I don't follow uh Pop OS, but that that thing with the the desktop environment that happened this time. Yeah, the cosmic thing. This is the first time I think that the timing has actually been really good. cuz this is h how Okay, we're saying we're in like the middle of the Linux challenge. I think we're over 30 days. Yeah, but like I I'm I noticed you were still running it on your laptop. I saw that when we uh I mean, we're setting up for the show. I'm clearly clearly still Linux pilled. Right now. Yeah. Um, I know at this point I I really really don't see myself going back to Windows on my laptop. I had to use Windows had to uh use Windows on someone else's system recently and it was very icky. You rage out about it like just about every week before we start the show on this machine. Yeah. Yeah. cuz like something will happen like some AI thing will reinstall itself or recall is like back on here after Dan scrubbed recall off the system. Like right now it's it's running okay. I don't know how it's using 50% of its RAM. That's insane. But um it's not like going crazy with the fans like it it was previously because of failing to install Windows updates. But like the it it's just kind of there's ads, there's little pop-ups all over the place. It's just kind of annoying. So, at this point, I'm not having any problems with my laptop. And it's actually been more productive to have Linux installed. Like, I've spent less time fiddling with my operating system with Linux installed than with Windows. So, there's like no way I'm going back on my laptop. I still have issues. Um, the the Teams for Linux, like that weird web app thing, uh, mostly works really great. My webcam is still not working, but that's that's a separate issue. Is that is it working in other applications? Uh, no. But Teams for Linux is just like it doesn't allow me to click a link and then just open in my browser. Like if I click a if I click a link in here, it just just doesn't do anything. Oh, that's strange. I have not. Yeah. So there like there's definitely but I mean realistically is it that much work to rightclick copy link and then and then I can paste and go. It is an extra step though. It's a few extra steps. Yeah, but but you know what I didn't have to do is reaffirm for the billionth time. I want this to open an edge. But no, I do not in fact want this to open an edge. So it's like not even necessarily that much less clicking. You're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't, right? So I might as well be damned in my own way. Yeah. You know, Peter has a take here. Peter from FlowPlane says, "My personal take is personal personalization is a red herring. a proper Linux system just works and there's no need to tinker. That's a big part of what I'm talking about when it comes to my laptop. I have Linux Mint running on my laptop and I've had to do nothing. Everything has just worked. It gets out of my way. The updates are really easy, easy to deal with, unproatic. There's no like, are you sure you want to not save this to one drive? Are you sure? Do you want me TO RECALL THAT FOR YOU? YES, I'M SURE. DO YOU WANT TO OPEN THIS WEB PAGE IN EDGE? UH, there's just like none of that stuff. Would you like me to stay? Would you like to stay signed in? Yes. For the 40 trillionth time? Yes, I would. Yeah. So, there's none of that. Click the button. I click the button. Don't ask me again every time. And like I I haven't even changed my background on my laptop, let alone like anything else. Like I've done I've done nothing. Um my desktop I've done more tinkering with, but my Yeah, my laptop I've done nothing. I'm very happy with it. Would you like TO SIGN INTO JUST THIS application or systemwide? JUST THIS APPLICATION. HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO tell you? Every time because they want it to be system. Would you like to SIGN INTO MS PAINT? NO. EVER. Not ever. Dude. Oh man. Sorry. I'm going off. I'm going off now because Sidus is turning. I got an email. I got an email earlier this week from SwiftKey. Okay. from Swift Key. And I'm gonna show this to you because this this burn this killed my brain. Okay, so first of all, first of all, I'm mad because they are they're cramming one drive so far down my throat that it's going to come out my butt. Okay, from Microsoft, we're writing to let you know that Swift Key accounts will be retired as of the 31st of May, 2026. To ensure a smoother, more secure experience, we'll be transitioning to standard Microsoft account signin for all users. Why this change? Well, it's part of our effort to make Swift Key better. Sure. No, it isn't. Blah blah blah. Your typing data will be more securely stored in, you guessed it, one drive. Okay. You'll benefit from enhanced privacy. Blah blah. You get a,000 Microsoft reward points, whatever those are. It simplifies your experience by using the same credentials you already use for other Microsoft apps and services. Fair enough. I have a Microsoft account. So, sure. Fundamentally, this doesn't make a difference to me. If it worked, okay, what does this mean for you? If you already use Microsoft to sign into SwiftKey, your data will be backed up to one drive as soon as it's ready. No further action is needed. Okay. First of all, Microsoft, I mean, you have my account. You emailed me, so you clearly know how I sign in. Do I use a Microsoft account? I don't know. You tell me. I probably haven't signed into SwiftKey in like a year. That's just for starters. Hold on. If you signed in with a different account, eg Google or Apple, you'll need to connect a Microsoft account to continue backing up your data. If you don't have an existing Microsoft account, you can easily create one with the same link below. Okay, fair enough. Connect your Microsoft account now. Oh my god, this works on mobile. That is hilarious. Okay. Well, I went on a whole rant because I did it on desktop. Here, I'm going to show I I have Okay, now I have to show you this to show I'm not crazy. It Yeah, I mean it does. It is a mobile application, but it's an email. So, like So, I opened it on my laptop. One second. this key. Okay, this is this is Okay, I'm going to I'm going to click it on here. Connect your Microsoft account now. And it literally just dumps it just dumps me on the Swift Key homepage. it doesn't take me to the account. Hold on. Hold on. I'm just going to I'm going to use my Linux superpower super granular screen brightness here. Okay, it just dumped me on the SwiftKey homepage. There is nothing on here about anything to do with account migration. Nothing. There's a link to the Google Play Store. View supported languages. Luke, back me up on this. Oh, yeah. For sure. Back me up on this. Okay. Here's my You're going to just just so I can prove no tom foolery. Here's the same email. I'm clicking the same link. You watched me do it. I think I watched it the first time. Yeah. Yeah. Here's the page. So, okay. I Okay. So, because I use Google to sign in and so I I went and I signed into my SwiftKey account, also on my laptop because I happened to be on my laptop when I got the email. There was nothing in there about where the data was stored cuz I was pretty sure I use a Google account and there was just nothing in there. You probably would have. So, the only way to access this flow is to happen to open it on mobile. That's crazy. Oh, Mro Mut says, "Thanks for making me feel normal about this whole Swift Key thing. I went through the exact same thing." That's crazy. Why would you Why would you send me to the Why would you send me to just your homepage if I open it on desktop or a laptop? They You're You're Microsoft. You know about laptops. All right. Okay. I'm marking I'm marking that on red now so that I can deal with this later because I actually would strongly prefer not to lose my uh my dictionary. Swift key is a significant part of my stickiness on Android. Um because on iOS it sucks and I've never actually verified this, but I assume it's due to Apple's better privacy around third party apps and being able to monitor what you type, right? Uh, but for better or for worse, I've used Swift Key for like 10 years now, and it has an extensive dictionary of everything that I need to talk about, which includes a lot of tech terms. And I care about not having to correct, you know, the same ducking. Sorry, I said ducking so I didn't have to bleep it. You know, the same ducking thing a million times. And so having a dictionary that really works is is really important to me and makes me more productive. So, um, I would I would really like to keep my Swift key library. So yeah, I'm going to I'm going to fix that now. Sorry. What were we talking about? I don't remember. Just Linux stuff in general. I I I think we're talking about how the Linux challenge is going. I I realized I think it was yesterday. Yes. That I should ask like, oh, when is the Linux challenge over? Um when last time I'm pretty sure we were getting like weekly updates and all talking together about like when we were allowed to go back. Um, and I thought it was interesting that there hasn't really been a lot of chatter and with how it's been being filmed, I feel like it's going to be going on for like a while longer. Um, and I'm totally fine with that. I think the only thing drawing me back right now. Is there like an impending game launch or something? Yeah. Yeah. I really liked Forza Horizon 5. I didn't play any of the previous ones, but I had honestly a lot of fun with Forza Horizon 5. It's a great game. and Forza Horizon 6 is coming on May 19th. But I genuin with with the experience that I had very recently of using someone else's Windows machine, I genuinely think I might dual boot and just treat it like turning on a console, right? I'll dual boot play Horizon when I'm done just boot back into Linux. Do you think it'll work on Wine 11? No. Ah, I'm pretty anti-dual boot. I I don't I I don't know if I can explain why. I don't like it either. It's like uh It feels like Horizon is supported on Linux. Really? Horizon 5 is gold apparently. I just looked it up on Proton DB while you were talking about it. I didn't expect that. I mean, I didn't expect that because of the multiplayer. That was my guess. Is cheating a major issue in Fortza Horizon? I don't I don't think I ever played online. I don't care at all. It was the single player game that I wanted to play. So, like even if you just like can't play multiplayer or whatever, that is completely fine for me. I I do not care. Um Okay. Chat says uh it has a stupid amount of cheating. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I'm not too surprised. Uh yeah, didn't didn't uh Valve just ban a million accounts. Is that I didn't see that in the doc. Um I didn't see that this week. Banned million. Yeah, that's wild. accounts. They're all playing CS. Yeah, nearly a million cheaters banned in Counter-Strike 2. 960,000 accounts. Like, cheaters are just in everything. Now, you know what's so funny? It's crazy is the first thing I was about to say when I when I read out that chat that, yeah, cheating's everywhere in Forts of Horizon 5 was like, "Who would want to cheat in a racing game?" And then I I was like, "Okay, right." But like I could apply that exact same logic. Who would want to cheat in a shooting game? Who would want to cheat in a strategy game? You know, wouldn't that just defeat the entire purpose of playing the game and determining who's better at the game? Right. Yeah. Well, same logic applies across the board. I suppose it's not just Okay, so someone pointed out those accounts would AFK CS games to get weekly case drops. Yeah, I heard that was a thing. There's a video I saw where uh somebody joined a public match as a spectator. And all the bots detected that someone was a spectator, meaning they could see their gameplay, and they just all disconnected at the same time, and it was like a massive percentage of the lobby just all auto disconnected. Um, but I've also heard that like people in ranked games will just like openly on the mic ask each other if they're like cheating and if if like four out of five of the players are cheating, they'll just vote kick the fifth one. I don't know if it's like real. Huh. It could have been staged and acted out, but yeah, it's like way too much. Um, but yeah. Yeah, the Forsen Horizon 5 the single player campaign was amazing. All the additional add-ons were really cool. They collaborated with Donut and there's like a Donut Media little like mini challenge thing in it which was like pretty sweet where you had to like build up a car and blah blah blah blah blah. It was it was awesome. So, I'm looking forward to six. But, I mean, if if it has a gold rating, maybe I'll just wait and then play it on Linux. Anyways, I don't need to play on release day. I don't care about that. And Bal says, "Real racers and real race cars are cheating, too. You know, Mercedes this year and their F1 engine is probably legal." Okay, that one I understand. is there's big money involved. Yeah. And that that's like as far as my understanding goes, it's part of the fun of F1 is watching the different teams and how they work around the rules and then adapting year to year. That's like I a bunch of people that I know that watch watch it because they find the technological engineering side of it to be more interesting than anything else. So I don't know. All right. Why don't we uh jump into another topic here? Maybe we should do a short one here. Sure. Uh, this is just more of an FYI than anything else. Ubiquiti has patched three significant flaws in their software and firmware, including a path traversal vulnerability found in version 10.1.85 and earlier of the UniFi network application, aka UniFi controller and UniFi Express version 9.0.114 and earlier. Uh, see the security advisory for details and patch as soon as possible. uh very very important because that's uh that's really bad. It can allow account takeover. So patch all your Unifi stuff please please please please. And the source here is Ubiquity. Here's the advisory bulletin. You're going to want to more people than this need to see it and make sure that they act on this. This is very very important. Network infrastructure not to be taken lightly as far as security goes. I'm doing it right now. Uh okay. Go for your like home stuff. Okay. Good. I was like, this is No, no, no. No, I don't do that anymore. No. Okay, on the subject I'm sorry, on the subject had to intervene there. On the subject of networking infrastructure and security, routers are illegal in America now. Okay, that's a bit of a sensationalist headline, but it's also not that far off. An FCC policy update earlier this week effectively bans the sale of consumer grade routers that are not made in the US, which as far as we can tell is pretty much all of them except some percentage of Starlink routers unless they have already received FTC authorization, which I think is going to be a lot of them, which is which is all of them. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So, this is kind of like the drone thing. Remember when they banned all non US-made drones and but then all the ones that are for sale now are fine? Honestly, to me, this kind of rhymes with uh China banning battery banks that aren't made in China. Is that the case? It's it's something like that. Oh, no, no, no. It's a particular Chinese um certification. Yeah, that's not made in China. That's um that's that's separate. That's separate. But as far as my understanding goes, it's almost entirely ones that are made in China. Uh well I mean most battery banks are made in China. Uh but like say hypothetically CCS um say hypothetic no it's triple C I believe. Okay. Uh say hypothetically we were to make a battery bank. You could get it certified for that. And let's say our cells were made in hypothetically you know Korea or you know somewhere. Sure. And our PCBs were made you know wherever and you know whatever. Right. Stuff right. Yeah. Yeah. Um yeah, we could totally just do triple C certification. Nothing would prevent Does is are there certification houses outside of China that do that certification? No idea. But finding a certification house in China for battery banks is got to be easy. They got to be all over the place. It's not a big deal. Uh okay. There is a little bit more to talk through on this one. It's not clear exactly what constitutes consumer grade, but foreignade appears to be anything physically manufactured outside the US, regardless of what country the company is based in. This policy change comes after the commission received a national security determination which states that vulnerabilities in foreignade small and home office routers represent unacceptable risk to Americans. An FCC fact sheet clarifies that the update does not prohibit the import, sale, or use of any existing device models that the FCC previously authorized. All new models will need to be approved by DOW of DHS or oh or DHS. I think that probably means I'm going to go with or there. The FCC notice also offers some details on how companies can can obtain conditional approval with exactly zero questions about security, but it must include a detailed timebound plan for onshoring manufacturing to the US. In statements to the Verge, both TPLink and ASUS expressed confidence in the security of their respective supply chains, and neither company gave any indication that they would move any manufacturing capacity to the US for consumer routers. You want some real expensive routers? Um, yeah. I mean, is that our conversation or our our discussion topic for this one? There's some like uh I don't know how I'd find this. Uh, Serve the Home had a video on it. Or what was it? Serve the Serve the Home was on Gearling's channel, I think. Um, talking about a like really cool looking I'm pretty sure it was a router, but it was very expensive. Um, I mean, yeah, serve the homes talking about it. It's probably expensive. That's a circle. Things serve the home covers and things that are very expensive. Perfect circle completely overlapping. he does a lot of like commercial enterprise grade stuff. He does a great job. Well, he was on Gearling's channel and Gearling sometimes covers some cheaper stuff. Gearling also sometimes covers some very expensive stuff. He does. And I think this is 600 bucks. And it's probably 600 bucks American. Like Oh, real dollars. A lot of dollars. Yeah, I think it was this video from Jen Jen 2. Are you planning to skip that ad at some point? Thank you. I don't usually watch YouTube with ads. You're killing me. Where? Where is it? It's not that one. It's what's in his hand right there. I love Patrick's shirt. Nice. They're both just like solid color white text. Nice. Uh, but yeah, it's it's a pretty cool looking little thing. This one, but and I think this is made in the US. I think I've heard of this thing. Mono router specifically dev kit model. Yeah, I think. Yeah. And I'm pretty sure it's made in the US, but it's it again, it's $600. Final price of the kit right here. I think I've heard of this. Sorry. What's it called? Mono. Not made in the US. Oh, it's made in the EU. Okay. Well, then it doesn't solve the problem. But it was a cool video and it's a cool little device. Maybe check that out. What do you want, Sammy? Bye. Bye, Sammy. Czech Republic. Oh, these guys reached out at me out to me at some point. Oh, well, did I not reply to them? I think I meant to. Well, oops. Wow. Good for them. That's so cool. I remember watching the video. They sent me that was about like the development of this thing. If it's the one that I'm thinking of, we raised $500,000 to manufacture our highend router. Yeah. Yeah. This thing. That's it. For sure. I recogize the name. Yeah, that's uh Yeah, that's that's super cool. I totally I did not mean to ghost these guys. I must have just accidentally marked the email as I wasn't trying to set you up for that. No, that's No, no. Yeah, that's I mean I think everyone misses an email from time to time. Yeah, sure. Um but yeah. Wow. Yeah, good for them. That's fantastic. They are they're across the line now, right? Was that It is I mean it is fantastic, but also I'm pretty sure if you go to his um like his actual YouTube channel Okay, Tomas, right? And then what's his Yeah, something like that. Oh my god, I closed it. I'm sorry. Hold on one second. Oh, good. Zaman, he has a recent video. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We built a thousand routers and made zero dollars. Relatable. I don't know. Um uh Um I Oh, dude. And then there was the recent thing where uh Derbower got completely [ __ ] over on some not. Yeah. Um, it it's so funny because every time we make one of those videos that's like, "It took us three years to make a screwdriver. Ask me why." You know, we took 3 years to make or four years or however long it took to make the cables. Why is that? People there there will inevitably be like a a contingent of people in the comments that are like, "Yeah, it's because you guys are so [ __ ] incompetent." Blah, blah, dude. creating anything is so hard. And I think that it has fundamentally altered my perspective to move from from selling like being a merchant to reviewing and evaluating to actually making to to to to being responsible for everything from the initial funding to the final delivery the final quality of the delivered product. It's so much harder and it makes it it's it's given me I think at at times a perspective that people have found abrasive um where I'm and it can come across I think a little bit bootlickery where I'm like yeah but I I get it. I see their side. I see their perspective because I mean here let's bring up something really uncomfortable. Modmat. Oh, you're publicly talking about it. Where is the modmat? Where is it, Linus? I don't I know nothing about it. I know it doesn't exist. What it where it is is it is figuratively in a space that illustrates the challenges of creating physical products. That's where it is right now. Right now. How do we get it out of there? It's releasing on April 1st. Uh, no. No, it isn't. It totally is. No, it's not. April 1st joke is that it's a joke that it's still not out. So, I also didn't say which year. Jesus. Um, but yeah, cool little device. apparently not made in the States. So, totally irrelevant to the conversation, but maybe go check it out. I wish them luck. It's funny how um a lot people will assume that anything made in the West is made in the States. Like, I saw we we had a video earlier this week about, oh my gosh, it's not in the dock. ARM makes CPUs now. Yeah. We had a whole video about that earlier this week. You should go watch it because ARM instead of just licensing IP or providing sort of prefabbed um you know ready for you to integrate into your own silicon sort of IP guidance and kits uh core designs. What do they call them? CCS or something. C whatever I forget what they call it. basically these like kind of uh blocks of various IPs that include their processing cores that you can you know cobble together your own processor out of. Instead of just doing that they actually are going to be directly selling ARM branded silicon in the in the data center now uh specifically for AI. Um, to their credit, what they're after is making AI way more efficient, which is like, if we're going to have AI, it being more efficient seems like not terrible. Um, but anyway, where was I where was I going with it, right? Uh, I saw a bunch of comments that were like, "Oh, yeah, now we have like, you know, Americanade, you know, an American CPU brand. We have Americanmade CPUs and something something." It's like, bro, like Acorn started in in Europe. Like, what are you talking about? It's not American company. Like, what about Intel and Qualcomm? Okay, so hold on a second. This was something that I I looked up like three times to make sure that I had it right. Ifttw says, uh, Oh, wait, no, no, you're right. Yeah, ARM hasn't made their own chip since the BBC Micro. So, ARM got up on stage and said, "This is the first time we're making an ARM chip." And I kind of went, well, that doesn't sound right. Because I thought that was literally like what you guys did the first, you know, time. And there's that famous story of how the ARM chip was so efficient that they powered it off and just like there was enough power in the signal lines or something that it would like stayed powered on for a long time or something and they came in the lab the next day and it was like still outputting or something. Yeah, it's it's crazy crazy efficient chip. But that was made by Acorn. That was before they became ARM. Uh, which happened I think like two or three years later or something like that. I like the Acorn name. This is the first actual ARM CPU. Sweet. More people should maybe go watch that video. Yeah. Yeah, it did okay. It did okay. I mean it and it's the video form of like a press release. Like I can't benchmark it. Um but true this uh this has major major implications for the tech industry. It was very interesting to me being at the event and seeing ARM stock drop during the keynote and I was like really what I don't understand this why is it dropping? This actually seems huge. And then it popped and then now we're now we're back in what what even what even our stock values anymore? I don't understand it. Everything's just based on uh whatever is more entertaining. I think I says this happens to Apple stock every keynote too. Really? So is this just like like is this like a high frequency machine trading thing that's just like the play? You know, you I stocks are based on vibes. Yeah, I get it. And not advice, like not advice, guys. I This is not financial advice. Um but I I think it's a pretty exciting opportunity. I don't love the way that they were so focused on its application for AI in the product announcement because you're when you tie your cart to that horse, you kind of live and die by it. And when you look at the implementations of ARMS cores that are have already made their way like you can you can rent an ARM instance from Amazon right now like you can go right now and you can get a Graviton instance and you can like use ARM data center processors right this second. Um and they don't have to be for AI they can be for other things. Um, and so I would have liked to see them talk a little bit more about what else these CPUs can do because I'm sure they can do other stuff. Um, but I also understand why in the current climate with so much buildout happening around AI, why why they focused on it. It's just I wish they had I wish they'd talked about Oh, and also all this other stuff, this legacy stuff that will also still exist, you know, at some point in the future. We can do that, too. Uh, oh, disclosure, that video was sponsored by ARM. Our trip down was sponsored by ARM, so take that for for what it is, but I'm they're not sponsored here and they're not going to be watching this. So, I'm Yeah, same. Whatever. Nice, nice, nice. Uh, oh, we should probably do sponsors. Speaking of sponsors, until sponsors, no, we should do sponsors. Okay. The show is brought to you by Jawa. With the price of memory and graphics cards only going up, building your own gaming rig has gotten very expensive. Jawua can help with that, though. They're a large online marketplace to help you buy and sell both new and used gaming gear, as well as pre-built systems. For under $1,000, you can find plenty of systems to fit your gaming and productivity needs. And you can even filter the systems based on specific parts like cards or uh oh like the form factor of your case. 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So, start building your website today and get 10% off your first purchase by visiting squarespace.com/wan. All right. You want to pick a topic? I'm feeling a Luke topic. Hold on. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna try to predict which one it is. I'm going to predict it. Okay. I've got it on my screen. I'm ready. I did a last minute pivot to change my mind. We'll see if he predicted that far. Meta and Google found liable. Dang, I was on that one first. Which one was your first one? That one. Oh man. Meta and Google found liable in landmark social media addiction trial. Two landmark rulings against social media companies happened this week. Tuesday, a New Mexico jury ordered Meta to pay $375 million for misleading parents about the safety of Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp. Then on Wednesday, an LA jury found Meta and YouTube negligent for harming kids through addictive platform design, awarding the plaintiff in the case 3 million in damages. Uh 70% of that from Meta, 30% of that from YouTube. the New Mexico case. So, the first one grew out of a 2023 undercover sting conducted by the Guardian, uh, like the newspaper. Uh, okay, cool. To investigate, investigative journalism. Let's go. To investigate the risks that children are exposed to on Instagram and Facebook. Internal documents and testimony from former employees show Meta repeatedly ignored warnings about child safety. Surprise, surprise. No one would have ever guessed the New Mexico Oh, nope. Sorry. Law enforcement also testified that Meta's crime reporting was deficient because Meta relied too heavily on AI moderation, generating high volumes of junk reports that made investigations practically impossible. Surprise, surprise. Again, during that trial, Zuckerberg and Instagram lead uh or sorry, Instagram head Adam Mouseri testified that that harms to children were inevitable on their platform due to their massive user bases. Huh. Okay. Um, cool. The $375 million penalty, $5,000 per violation with 75,000 violations, is substantial, but is less than 1/5if of what the prosecutors initially sought. Though, further restitution might be ordered as the case moves to a bench trial in May, where a judge will rule on public nuisance claims that could see Meta being forced to change how its platforms work. Wow. Awesome. Interesting. Uh, the LA case was a 7we trial brought by a 20year-old woman. Okay. Uh, sure. Uh, I think the point is just that she's young and pretty much is at an age now where she grew up being impacted by these platforms. Got it. Okay. Okay. I think that's the only reason we're mentioning the age. Sure. Um, her argument was that Meta and YouTube deliberately designed their platforms with features like infinite scroll. That's kind of the primary one. uh autoplay, which kind of ties into infinite scroll. I don't really know that many things in Infinitely Scroll, but you have to press the play button. Uh and push notifications that exploit dopamine responses to keep kids hooked. The plaintiff's lawyers focused on the app's design rather than their content, which I actually personally completely agree with, which is what allowed them to get around section 230. Um I think any app that infinitely scrolls, you should be looking at critically. Um, anyways, Meta's defense tried to argue her struggles Meta's defense tried to argue that her struggles were caused by other factors. A difficult family life, bullying at school. Um, they pointed out Yeah. Uh, they pointed out this is float plane. Yeah. I think you should scrutinize why it does that and how it affects your usage of the platform. And I think the end result that much though it's not algorithmic. I think the end result of scrutinizing that on full plane is h it doesn't really actually do anything. Uh which is fine and then I think you can look at a platform like like Instagram and be like oh wow this is very clearly designed to keep me going. I'm just teasing. I'm just saying no I I think you should scrutinize it though and I have had this thought before of like oh flow plane does that but I in my case I think it's fine. Not infinite that's kind of true. you do technically come to an end. It will eventually, but I think I think it's long enough that it it it could put be put in the category still. Yeah. And I managed to scroll through so many videos that it's like bogged down enough that it's not a great infinite scrolling experience. You're out of the preload. Yeah. It's it's Yeah. It's like the platform is really not designed for that type of infinite scrolling. Like Twitter, YouTube, Instagram, etc. Facebook, etc. are all designed to really like that is what they're for and they're designed to keep you there and they're going to autoplay everything and all that kind of stuff. Full plane is really not like that even though it can load. I WILL DEFEND THIS FOREVER. ANYWAYS, OKAY. Uh yeah, Meta's def Meta's defense tried to argue that her struggles were caused by other factors. A difficult family life, bullying at school. They also pointed out that notes from 6 months of therapy didn't mention social media addiction or name any apps. Imagine going after someone that way. Imagine someone saying, "Hey, your product damaged me." And you being like, "Yo, y'all broken cuz your family sucks and you were bullied." And our platform was just we just uh took advantage of that. Couldn't help noticing that you had 6 months of therapy. And how' they get the notes, dude? I don't know. Like did did she part of discovery? I guess they could ask for something like that. Maybe. get notes from your therapy as I don't know that sounds crazy but to me nuts to me I mean I I've I've never I've never look there's a I am not a latigious person you know if I'm ever I want to make it clear that if I'm ever pushed to past the limit like I yeah I'll I'll I'll do it but I really don't want to and I've managed to be in this industry for this long without ending up in a courtroom I'd like to keep it that way what what was I going to say here was uh yeah so I don't so I don't know like how this process works but from everything I've heard it sucks. Yes you can absolutely get therapy notes for super sketch. So what you're telling me is don't go to therapy. That's not what we're saying. Not advice here. I'm going to sit over here for a second. I tried. I freaking hated it. Uh but anyways, uh that's a story for another time. Maybe not when Yeah. Yeah. Uh jurors nearly unanimously sided with the plaintiff, awarding her $3 million in damages with the jury still deliberating on punitive damages, which could significantly increase the payout. Yeah, $3 million sounded like just a slap on the wrist. But if you um sort of look at the bigger picture here, there are over 3,000 similar lawsuits pending in California, plus more than 40 state attorneys general who have filed against Meta. And that $3 million is to one person. The floodgates could be open here. That could be kind of fun. Um discussion question. Section 230 has been the bedrock legal defense for social media companies for 30 years. These two juries just rejected it. If that precedent holds up on appeal, what does the social media landscape look like when platforms can be sued for how their algorithms serve content to kids? I think it could look a lot more like it used to look where you friend people and then you see whatever your friend actually posted. Awesome. The internet being cool again would be so sick. Yeah, I'd be down. That would be so cool. I would I'm a little older now. I would use Facebook. Me too. Like the old one. Yeah, me too. I would legitimately use it. I would I would be an active user. And like you could you can go on my Facebook. You can see that even when Facebook No, Luke. This is not cool. What kind of cool? What are we missing then? Hold on. Hold on. I'm going to find me. They want ID laws for app stores. Oh, I think these things are different. Yeah, this is that's that's not what we're talking about. I agree with you that that sucks. But I Where am I? I I don't know. I don't know how to I don't know how to find myself on Facebook. I literally don't know how to use Facebook. This is cute though. I don't know. This is This is from the the LTT channel. Don't talk to me or my son ever again. Social media. Anyway, the point is I I like posted not at all, but I'm if I was actually posting to people who I actually am connected with and care about, then I I'd probably I'd probably use it just cuz I don't socially interact with those people in person all the time anymore. And it's it's easy. It's convenient. It's just it's so it's so unusable now. That there's no temptation whatsoever beyond Messenger. short form dopamine abusing garbage trash content is like everywhere now and it's also on Facebook. It's just like gh. Oh, it's especially on Facebook. I had to go on there to message a family member very recently, jumped on Facebook on desktop and just like looked around for a sec and was just like it's so bad. And if you frequent uh communities like Am I the [ __ ] um you'll see you'll start to see the like repurposing and recirculation of like AI generated stories with like slightly different twists. And so there'll be a version of it that you notice on Facebook uh where you know he cheated and then this happened and then this happened and then this happened and then there was a thing with my dog and like you've got these these stories that are just designed for you to like keep staying engaged to find out what happens next and it's it's all fake. except when it isn't, but it seems to be all fake. So gross. Um I don't know the the comments about uh age verification for app stores thing. I don't I understand where you're coming from about these things being related because this whole thing is algorithms for kids. No, but the okay this is but I think there are two things happening at the same time that have similar topics and I also think that if we are if we're talking about this product being designed to be harmful for kids in a way where it's uh keeping you engaged through intentional like dopamine spikes. It's not a far reach to go okay but then is it also designed to be harmful to adults? Yeah. And I think this is harmful to everyone. And and so we could end up with a very good outcome here. You know, in much the same way that, you know, marketing is restricted in many territories around products like cigarettes, drugs, alcohol, uh it used to be for gambling. I don't know what happened there. We sort of had a good thing and then we decided, ah, you know what, forget it. Let's just let it go rampant. Sorry, one sec. Uh, serious scaper is I think their their name. It says this is walking the internet as we know it, meaning LTT forum, flow plane, etc. will be liable. Actually, neither of those that you named will be liable at all based on the reading that I've have here because we don't algorithmically serve content. Yeah, we don't do it at all. So, I I haven't personally read section 230, but the notes that we have in the dock here um say specifically that platforms can be sued for how their algorithms serve content to kids. It's not the content itself that they're liable for because Yeah. section 230. They didn't create the content. They can't be responsible for every userenerated piece of content that's uploaded to their sites. But what they can be responsible for is curating it algorithmically to generate a stimulus a stimulus response uh chemical reaction in your brain that keeps you hooked on it. That's the conversation, not the content itself. So there's not a single platform that we operate that would fall under that. And Siri is making a bit of a slippery slope argument here about this opening the door is the sort of the next thing that they're saying here. And you know what? Maybe I I I personally do not immediately dismiss a slippery slope fallacy argument because there's plenty of historical precedent for the slippery slope absolutely being a thing. Where I take issue with your argument though is that I don't think that this slope that we're on in this particular ruling leads to repealing section 230 or or significantly revising it. I don't think that anyone in their right mind is going to make a platform responsible for every single individual thing that a user posts because it's not realistic. It's just plain not realistic. Yeah, algorithmic suggestion is is quite different from UGC. It's interesting. I think something needs to change. I I totally understand the whole slippery slope thing and that being a concern. I think where we're at now is like extremely toxic and extremely negative for all of humanity that is connected to the internet and has to be addressed somehow. I don't know that this is the best way. I don't know that this leads us down the best path. Something's got to change. I do think Sirius Escaper might be a little bit um kind of barking down the wrong path a little bit saying literally the ones who want laws to pass that would require ID laws aka surveillance is these giant tech companies and this is the next step. No, no, no, no. They want ID laws and all of that, they want more personal information. They oppose this. They lost this case. This this lawsuit, they lost it. This is not the direction they want to go. this is the opposite of what they want right now. Um, so this is we're not saying yes, that's this is good because it benefits Facebook and Meta and and and Google. That that's not what happened here. What happened is Meta and Google lost. Yeah. in a way that is has the potential to make the kind of algorithmic serving of content that has become so addictive um that it is doing measurable damage to a generation of people uh illegal hopefully or at least financially impractical. We we should stop this topic but I'll throw in one last thing. It says literally the parents of the kids in this case came out and said pass KOSA which is a surveillance law. Yeah, but that's not what the case was about, They can say whatever they want. They could come out and say chicken wings are are better than burgers. Um or I prefer hot dogs and waffles suck and I'm a pancakes boy. Um and it wouldn't mean anything. But anyways, let's talk more good news. I understand your point and I think it is a a valid concern. Bigger battle mage is here. The Ark Pro B65 and B70 were announced earlier this week. And we've got a couple of uh spec sheets here. One for the B65 and one for the B70. Let's go ahead and let's go ahead and pull these up. This is so funny. I'm on Intel Arc reading about Intel Arc. Yo, dog, I heard you like Arc, so I put Arc on your Arc, so you can arc while you arc. I don't think they call this ARC anymore, but the joke is that Intel's uh product specifications um website where you could just kind of look at a data sheet like this for any product used to be called Intel Arc. All right, so what do we got? What do we got? Micro architecture XC2, TSMCN5. Oh man, you see what TSMC said about unless you're like a loyal long-term customer, you ain't getting no N3. So, uh yeah, Intel probably wouldn't fall under that. So, they're going to have to fab their own GPUs going forward, it sounds like. I I'm probably reading too much into it, but whatever. Uh, so the 65 gets 20 XE cores and the 70 gets 32. So, this is what was probably supposed to be the rumored B770. But the bad part of the news is we're not getting that in a consumer card. The good part of the news here is that hey, at least it's coming to to light. So, it does exist, which means maybe if the RAM apocalypse, you know, ends reasonably soon, we could get it someday or something. And it also means Intel has not abandoned GPUs. Everything Intel does that shows that they're still making GPUs is encouraging for me because we must we must not have a monopoly in this space. So, either 20 or 32 ray tracing units. All right, that's pretty cool. Vector engines 160 250. Oh, wow. So, the the B70 is like a much much beefier card. Oh, yeah. It's a It's $1,000. Higher clocked. She's She's a She's a big boy. PCIe Gen 5 by 16 for both of them. And both of them, this is pretty cool. Have 256bit interfaces and 32 gigs of GDDDR6. That 32 gigs memory is pretty nice. That is a fat amount of GDDR memory, I think, for under $1,000 GPU. A lot of these are going to end up in potentially dual GPU setups. Some uh it's very clear what Intel is trying to do here. They are trying to get home lab running ARC optimizing their AI crap for ARC so that longer term their data center accelerators are going to have people familiar with how to use them seems pretty smart. I am not super on top of this stuff. Someone in in chat said, "Is it GDDR6?" And I I went to go confirm that it is, but I also think that should be. It's really you really just care about the capacity a lot. I'm pretty sure. Okay. Okay. It's twofold. So, we for the workloads that I suspect people are going to be using this for, I want to add that caveat before you keep going. Uh it it's okay. So we we covered this in a fair bit more uh detail in that video that um uh that we worked on with uh with Nick Harris from the lab. Yeah. So what was that? That was a H1 H100 card. I think it was was an H100 or H200. Was it was an like it was an older uh data center AI accelerator from…

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