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nunomaduro| 05:44:29|Feb 18, 2026
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The host greets viewers, checks sound, and announces the live stream from Lakon India with initial venue impressions.

Nuño Maduro’s day-one Lakon India livestream vibe: chaotic energy, real-time tech gauging, and an early reveal of Laval’s AI SDK alongside live interviews, booth tours, and impromptu garba dance breaks.

Summary

Nuño Maduro takes us on a marathon, noise-filled stroll through Day 1 at Lakon India, giving viewers the front-row feel of a tech conference in the wild. He rushes to set up audio, tests microphone sync, and shares the venue’s scale and energy with his chat, while popping in to chat with attendees and Laval booth staff. The stream lingers on the Laval ecosystem—showcasing the Lavl booth, Sentry, and models lab—before pivoting to candid conversations about who’s who, what people are building, and the palpable India startup spirit. Taylor Roewell briefly teases the AI SDK on stage, and Nuno teases a potential post-talk interview, giving viewers a taste of what’s coming next. Between booths, photo ops, and spontaneous interviews, Nuño threads in practical notes about agentic coding, cloud code, Octane, and JSON API in Laravel 13. The day culminates in a high-energy Garba-style dance at the Lakon India afterparty, captured live for the audience. It’s a mix of on-site vibes, hard tech talk, and the unpredictable rhythm of a live event. Expect live feedback, technical banter, and a sense of the Laravel community’s momentum on the subcontinent.

Key Takeaways

  • Laval’s ecosystem is front-and-center at Lakon India, with live booth tours (Lavl booth, Sentry, and models lab) and attendee interviews reinforcing the brand’s energy.
  • Taylor Roewell teased the AI SDK on stage, signaling a major open-source wave: text generation, embeddings, vector stores, and browser/web search features are all in play.
  • Agentic coding and cloud-based tooling (cloud code, Open Code) are central to the day’s workflow, with practitioners highlighting plan mode and test automation as efficiency levers.
  • Laravel 13 is framed around AI SDK improvements and JSON API enhancements, suggesting a broader push toward AI-assisted development and API-driven architectures.
  • The day shows the community’s appetite for hands-on, in-person collaboration: Garba, group photos, and spontaneous Q&A highlight the conference’s collaborative spirit.
  • Audience feedback and live testing (audio sync, video mirroring, and stream setup) underline how critical streaming quality is to real-time event coverage.
  • There’s a practical emphasis on performance tools (Laravel Octane, FrankenPHP) and testing strategies, with prompts about how AI could influence unit/feature testing in the future.

Who Is This For?

Essential viewing for Laravel developers and community members who want to see how live events meld community energy with cutting-edge AI tooling, plus what Laravel’s next AI SDK could mean for real-world workflows.

Notable Quotes

"Starting the stream here at Lakon day one."
Opening line that sets the live, on-site vibe.
"The vibe is unbelievable."
First impression of Lakon India energy and scale.
"Audio is perfect."
Interactive moment with audience feedback about stream audio.
"Taylor Roewell… perhaps—this is the plan for today: I’m going to literally stream the full story."
Foreshadowing the day’s plan and potential interview with Taylor.
"This is the Lavl booth. This is the stickers. This is the Laval people."
On-site Laval branding moments that anchor the brand for viewers.

Questions This Video Answers

  • How does Laval’s AI SDK change the way Laravel developers build and test apps?
  • What exactly isagentic coding and why is it gaining attention in 2026?
  • When will Laval 13 be released and what features are most anticipated?
  • What can Laravel Octane and FrankenPHP offer for AI-powered apps in production?
  • Is there a free tier or trial for Laval Cloud as announced by Taylor Roell?
LaravelAI SDKTaylor RoewellNuño MaduroLakon IndiaAgentic codingCloud CodeOpen CodeLaravel 13Octane (FrankenPHP)
Full Transcript
What's up? What's up? What's up, Chad? Let me know how the m how the sound is. If if the stream looks okay, um if things are okay, let me know. Literally literally starting the stream here at Lacon day one. And this will be awesome. But let me know how you guys are there. If my hair looks good, hopefully it looks, but let me know. if the sound is okay because last stream the DJI didn't connect for some reason. You guys let me know. Bada boom, bada boom. Here we go. People already saying hi. Lovely, lovely, lovely. How are you guys doing? Good morning. Good morning. All right, Shad. Since you guys are there, I'm going to just show you how vibe is going here at Lakon. Look at this. Look at this beauty. Is the sound perfect? Let me know. The sound would be perfect, but All right, here's the vibe. Sh. Here's the vibe. Like literally people all over the place. And this is not where most people are at the minute. So most people most people are literally having food right now at um where the food is being held. This is just like the entry of Lakon and the vibe is like [ __ ] unbelievable. So here we go. People saying hi. Nice vibes here at Lakon India. You know the energy chat. You know the energy. This is Lavl booth as you can see. Badass booth right here. And there is another a bunch of other booths. You know I'm going to show you the venue real quick if we can go there. The venue is [ __ ] huge, Shan. Like [ __ ] huge. How are you guys doing? Everyone is doing perfect. So this is like, by the way, venue is this, but then we have the main stage, which is this thing I'm about to show you. People are so nice here. Just crazy. This has the better community in the world. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. All right. This is the main the main stage. And just look, just look at this size main stage set. Just this is the main stage. Look how big this is. Like unbelievable. Unbelievable. Honestly, is Taylor Stalk is going to be streamed? Perhaps. Perhaps. Perhaps. Um I don't think so. I don't think I'm allowed. I don't think I'm allowed to do that. No. Well, let's see. So welcome to India. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, the area is awesome. I think also like the the entry of the venue is literally where the network is being held. So location Yamabad India. That's what I that's all I know. This is my style today. Let me show you. Here we go. I can actually make the webcam a little bit better, I think. Uh or I cannot. Well, actually I cannot. Here we go. Yeah, but the vibe is like, you know, the usual cuz Lakon India is just so cool all the time. So, yeah. Location still. Yeah. Great. Thank you. Thank you. What else I can show you? I can show the outside if you guys want to see. And then sometimes the PHP Let me show you the outside. I'm going to show you the outside real quick. Can I show you the outside? I think I can. Yeah. Where is your brother? Uh, so long story short, my brother literally had like um a ton storm in Portugal. He had to fly ASAP. ASAP. So that happened. Yeah. You had to literally just fly. Say hi. You want to say hi? Hi. There you go. Chat say w for her. Okay. Namaste. Hey, how you doing? I'm good. How are you? I'm doing fantastic. Nice to meet you. You want to say hi? Yeah. Yeah, this has been streamed on YouTube. I'm feeling great. Yeah. All right. So, you done lunch? What's up? I had lunch. Yeah. Already. I had my lunch, my coffee. I'm feeling good. Yeah. Awesome. Awesome food here. Awesome food. Awesome weather. Good energy. You You're doing gym, right? So, you look slim this year. Uh, well, people have been telling me that, which I don't know if it's a compliment or not. It's a compliment. Okay, Chad. Everyone is telling me that I've looked slim this year, which I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing. Maybe it means that last year I was just too fat. Uh people are asking if you want to say me some words in Gujarat. Oh, okay. What does that mean? Isn't like the good morning super easy to say? Superbatra. Superbat. Superbat. India. Oh, I can say that tomorrow, right? That would be fancy cuz I'm, you know, speaking in the morning. So, all right. You guys want to say goodbye? All right, here we go. Hey, man. Hey. How you doing? Yeah, I'm good. You want to say hi to my Twitch? Yeah. Hi. There you go. Hello, everyone. Hello everyone. How many people are watching? I don't know. Like I don't this setup is kind of new for me so I actually don't know. Thank you ma'am. Go ahead. I'm enjoying your YouTube streams lately. Oh, thank you. Oh my god, my camera is like going. You become like a social media creator. Yeah, I enjoy you know I I enjoy the day of content social media, right? You guys do I assume? Yeah, I I was a WordPress developer. I was doing marketing and then I WordPress I have learned. Nice. Now I'm with AI. It is very easy to learn coding, right? So you basically just prompt AI. The first first application which I deployed they have like processed $2 million transactions in that it is from N. It was my first project. Oh, I see it. Yeah, it was all made with help with help of Oh, okay. I have did everything that I'm taller than everyone here. The tallest guy here. I don't think I'm tallest though, but you know, nice to meet you, man. Hey, see you around, man. Thank you. Thanks for saying hi. Thank you. Thank you for creating the amazing framework. Thank you. It's too nice. Browser testing in the latest version is very smooth and very easy like otherwise you need to run the headless chrome and yeah I know browser testing is probably I don't know I think it's the biggest feature of pass since this incarnation it's very good and it is like oh yeah how many tests do you have bronzer chests you have an idea how many bronzer chests do you have I don't have idea on the hundreds on the hundreds okay all right and is Lakon live streamed? Um, you mean Lakon the conference? I don't think it's been streamed. No. So, I'm doing this because I'm on the venue basically and that's it. Yeah. Sh. So, here's the plan for today. Okay. We have a huge plan. This is the Lag booth, by the way, with a nice watch logo. So, here's the plan for today. I'm going to literally stream the full story. Okay. like being on the venue, being outside of the venue, just being with you guys. And I'm going to equally stream the afterparty if I have the full energy to do all of this. Okay, you guys type W if you want to see all of this. I think it will be awesome. But let me know what you think. You following from Pakistan. Nice. Nice. We have I should I try to show you the food area? Okay, I'm going to try to photo the I'm going to try to show you the food area, but let's go backstage. I can potentially show you backstage. I think I'm going to show you the food area first and then backstage. Okay, so this is like again where people are networking a little bit post food though. Okay, by the way, Sh, let me know in the comments if the microphone is just perfect. The microphone should be just perfect. Should be this one and not the phone basically. So, you let me Hey, no. Hey, I'm watching you. Are you literally watching me? Can you let me know is the if the audio is coming from microphone? Can I watch the microphone? It's not coming from the microphone again. Yeah, the be 100% better. Oh my god. One second, chat. Okay, now it has the potential to be much better. The audio now should be like a thousand like a thousand times. camera doing crazy stuff, but Oh my god. Here we go. Yeah, it's coming microphone. Much better, right? Yeah, I knew. I knew my micro my my camera is literally going like this. Much better. Yeah, I told you chat. You guys are saying the sound is perfect. It was not perfect at all at all. Okay, I'm going to try to fix the camera real quick. It's literally going crazy. Oh, the mode here is broken. Here we go. Two times. Three times up. Up. Mic reverted again. Oh, yeah. Okay. All right. Okay. How about now? Is it good? Yeah, the microphone should be good now. We have a huge stream today so it better just be good. Chat agent, how you doing? Boom boom. Do you visit something interesting on India? Oh my god, I did dude. But honestly, like what I really like about India is like people because the tourist stuff I've kind of done four years ago, you know. Shad, let me know if the audio is perfect. It is nice, nice, nice, nice, nice. I can understand you. Perfect. Okay. But remember that when you guys talk about audio with me, you need to tell me always two things. Number one, if the microphone is capturing the audio, if it's coming from this place right here. Number two, you need to tell me if the audio is in sync with the video. Okay? So, you always need to keep that in mind when you give me feedback about the audio. Hey, Roberto, how you doing? Nice to see you, man. So, here's the vibe on the back. What do you guys think? Out of sync. [ __ ] how but how out of sync it is at the minute. Okay, we are going to stream for eight hours straight. So, we better get this right. Okay, a bit out of sync. Interesting. Let me see. 30 people watching chat. That's awesome. Go all the way down and put like on this video. Okay, so it cannot be out of sync. We need to fix that. Okay, we need to fix that ASAP. We are going to fix that. Not this video. Okay. Oh yeah, it's 100% sure out of sync at the minute. Yeah, it's not good. We are going to fix this. Okay, Chad. All right. So, that will be stream settings, audio settings, adjust the bit rate. Let's go here into low. I don't know what this will do, but I guess we're going to find out. Okay. How about now? Is it any different? The same? Just type out of sync if you feel is the same. I don't know if I'm allowed to change the the the hertz of the audio while streaming, so I may have to reset the stream. Thank you guys for helping me out, by the way. I appreciate lost audio. Okay, that's even worse. Uh audio settings 44. I know. Okay. Hey, how you doing? I'm good. Yeah. Can I? Yeah. Good. How are you? I'm doing fantastic, man. Thanks. Still out of sync. Can you let me let me know how is now? Yeah. Yeah. You want to say hi? Hi. Hi. Hello. Sh. Let me know how the audio is. If it's on sync or not. Okay. Let me know. Yeah. What's up? Yeah. Good. Good. So, hello. Hey, nice to meet you. How you doing? Nice. How you? Uh now what's what's going on in the for in AI market right now? In the AI market. Well, it's affecting a little bit like how developers craft code I guess but uh you know I think we are just crafting code faster. That's what I think. At least that's what I'm doing. So yeah. So what's Hi, nice to meet you. I'm Nunu. Nice to meet you. Hi. What's up? How you doing? All good. Still not sync it. I'm going to restart the stream in a second. Okay. Yeah. So uh can we Yeah. Yeah, we can. All right, see you around. Still not synced. All right, we need to fix this. Um, all right. I'm going to restart the stream and you guys let me know how does it feel afterwards. Okay, stay on that side. Okay. me out. Just tells me out of sync. Can I just restart the stream? So, so let me know how it is right now. It should be good, but you guys let me know. People love you here, so you should come. Just say hi. It's the pier. W native PHP native PHP. Oh, here we go. Let's see how he is. Perfect for me. Nice, nice, nice, nice, nice. Did you get a sticker? I have not, Chad. Now I have a sticker of native PHP. Here we go. Did you get one of their dancing in the background? Uh, I have not. This is even better. Yes. I'm going to if he sinking now. Nice. You wanted the picture, right? Yes. All right, let's do it. Okay, there we go. That's good. Hey, nice to meet you, man. See you around. Let's Let's have a picture. Yeah, let's do it. Can you take a photo of this? She's my Yeah, of course. Yeah. I think you have the same phone in the same suitcase as me. Look at this. It's a little different. Oh, yeah. Yours is different. Yeah, absolutely. Hey, how you doing? Nice to meet you. Hey, nice to meet you. How you guys doing? All good. I I do see your vlogs. Yesterday also you posted one vlog. I see. Yeah, I posted. You came here like two days before. Yeah. Yeah. For the balling thing. So, that was a Sonali, I think, organizing. Yeah. had the balling with Puall. Yeah, I saw that. It was awesome. We do follow your vlogs. Nice work. A lot of developers. Keep doing it. I assume. Nice. Apart from developer videos, the vlogging is also you should keep doing. Oh, you you like it? Yeah. Yeah, I have interesting. Yeah, that's what I'm doing. I don't know if my shot likes that, but uh nice to see you guys. Thank you. Thank you. How lucky they are. Click taking pictures with the goat. Having fun at you. Oh, yeah. I'm having Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Hey, man. See you around. Thank you. Hey, see you around, man. Nice to meet Yeah, let's do it. We I said hi already, right? I must say again. Hey. Thank you. That's a good one. All right. See you around. Should I dance? You want to photobomb? Should I dance in your stream? You can dance on my streams. Where are you at? Ahabad, India. How lucky they are. Thank you. Thank you. They they keep it busy. Yes, a little bit. I hear a little bit of Yeah, the caffeine's getting another one. What was the dessert? The sugar from your from your dessert. Did you have dessert? She cooked all the desserts. Oh, no. I did not. What did you do? Where did you have food? What? What did you had food? You had food here? You went for food here. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Did you scared? No, no, I got food here as well. I'm scared, but uh I don't care. Just plow through the like uh swimming with sharks, you know. Kudos native PHP. I use native sometimes. Couple times. This is so good. Those are fun. Have you hung out with him before? Like physically? He lives an hour from me. yeah. He's just such a nice person to be again, you know. Y he keeps asking me to go golfing and he keeps saying yes, but we don't go. He keeps saying that golf is a sport every single day. So, I really could go like anytime. He keeps saying that golf is a sport and it's not a it's not a sport. We want me to fly the airplane and take him with his golf. Hey, how you doing golf? from you. Yeah. Just you know streaming on YouTube and Twitch. Oh yeah. Can I come? Yeah. Yeah. You can say hi. So what is the agenda? What's up? Now he likes you. Look, look at the green means you are a likable person. What is the agenda of this streaming? Like you just showing the conference. Yeah. Hanging walking around in Yeah. Basically that. Okay. Yeah. doing in uh something called called in real life streaming which is just basically do what I do but stream it at the same time and you know I'm I'm a consumer of that content myself so I'm just doing the same thing I've never been what's up like India I love India I love the weather I love everything so yeah had a had a lunch chat let me know how the audio is again the microphone should be topnotch no out of sync okay had a lunch yeah lunch was great yeah lovely uh Uh, can you capture the photo now? Yeah, let's do a picture. It's fine. Yeah, it's all right. Yeah, double the picture. Type W picture if you like it. So, now I can say Here we go. That's a good one, man. See you around. Nice to meet you. See you I'll send you a message on LinkedIn. Is that fine? Yeah. Yeah. You can message me on LinkedIn. On Twitter or LinkedIn? Uh, anything works. I will answer you on Twitter. I know. But anything works. I will answer it. Okay. See you around. Thank you. Audio is perfect. Thank you. Floating beer from Lavel. Do you want to see the Lavl team? I can show you. I can give you a sneak peek of the Laval booth. Audio is perfect. Thank you. Okay, let's let's let me show you a sneak peek of booth. All right, let's go. Okay, I'm going to show the laval booth and we're going to speak with them, but they want they they they they kind of want to um they need to validate the idea that I'm showing them on stream. Okay. Hey Dave, uh people want to see a lot of our booth. Bring bring him in on a tour. Yeah. Okay. Do you want to do the tour yourself? No. No. You got it. You got it. You're the You're the star. Okay. Well, I'm going to do a tour, Sh. So, front camera. Here we go. Here we go. So, here we have the Lavel booth. This is the stickers. Okay. This is the wonderful Lavel people on the back as you can see. Dave, Abby, Sabrina, Vlad. This is Jazz, the superstar of Laravel. ask her to sign a song. What do you mean? Hey, how you doing? All good. Yeah, looks lovely, I think. What do you guys think? All right, Shad. If if the audio it went out of sync again, that's when I changed cameras. So, let me know if the audio went out of sync. I love that people keep nice booth. Thank you. Thank you. There is another booth if you guys want to see it. You are in sync. Thank you. So another booth from Sentry, another booth from models lab. And then we have the Lavel news booth which is empty at the minute. Here we go. Here we go. Laval booth. I'm going to sit on the Oh, here's Pu. Today I'm news recorder. You're a newser. Yeah, man. I'm doing some news out of sync now. Oh my god. All right, let's I'm trying to understand why my audio goes out of sync sometimes. Um, apparently it's when I switch cameras, so I may just stop doing that. Let's So, last time happened. Same happened, right? Yeah. Look at this Atlanta news booth. I'm allowed to do this. I don't know. Hi, Puyo. People are saying, Sh, let me know if the audio is out of sync. If it is, we need to restart the stream and just put everything back. So, you guys let me know. You guys let me know. It's fine in sync. What the [ __ ] Someone just said it's out of sync. Roberto, I don't get it anymore. Hi, everyone. How do good? Perfect. Look at this. So, it's on sync or not sync. Sync or not sync? Is in sync? Yeah. 100% sure in sync. You want to see something cool? You want to see something cool? Watch this. What? Oh, that's badass, huh? That's badass. Hey, you want to come? Come here, by the way. Yeah, it's fine. We can take a picture. We can You can come here. We can do whatever you want. We can dance. Hey, what's up, man? How you doing? I'm doing good. Nice to meet you. You want to say hi? You want to say hi? I'm going to just stop the sinking a little bit here. I'm going to do this. Uh Here we go. Much better. Oh, we're doing the mega picture. Okay. Well, good. Thank you. Nice to meet you. See you around. We should do the LL news behind. It's more badass. Thank you. You guys do Laval for leaving? I assume you do a bunch of flat. Nice. You prefer tall stack or inertia? Uh tall stack. Tall stack. A bunch of tall stack people. I'm just learning tall stack. Oh, majorly work with but right now learning as well. Joe. So you want to find something funny. Every single person I've asked this question have answered the tall stack here in Hindi at least. So was popular back in time but now many people are different right because it is similar like one and so that's right but also PHP so yeah. Hey nice to meet you man. Where is your card? I lost it. You're not allowed. I'm going to I'm going to be pulled out of the conference. I know police here, so don't worry about it. Yeah, we know you. Did you Did you got a nap already? Not yet. You got a nap? Which nap? A nap? Nap? No. No. Bilo is going for a nap. Oh. Oh, yeah. He just when he was going to a hotel, he made, right? I mean, it's it's just, you know, it's a lot of energy. So, you want to photograph? I miss the Can you come Can you come here? Yeah. just because I'm streaming there. You don't mind if I hug you, don't you? No, no. Okay. Thank you. Do you remember? Uh I think I do. Yeah. There is a lot of familiar faces. Yeah. But uh some of them I don't know if they are here for the third conference or fourth conference. This is my fourth one. So you like I have done three of Pinker migration string with Oh, right. It's still in progress. Still it is bending. Yeah. It's not a it's not an easy it's not an easy task, you know. So, we are trying to do it offline. We will record the video. I honestly got curious like how would you migrate something like Pinkery without showing like potentially sensitive information on stream, you know, like it's not easy cuz there is from from the moment you show for example an email, it's already like okay, it's already maybe sensitive. So, it's very tough. I would be surprised if you can do everything on stream like things like images for example. we were doing we were just migrating the local database not the production. Oh, I feel I feel after that if everything is succeeded, we know it's here and we just can move. So now I I think we should uh write uh scripts directly. So previously we were trying to do dumps and all but Escalite is very bad bad at Oh okay got types you know. Gotcha. So that's that's the Oh my god I love this booth. Harris will come soon I guess. Hey the cover likes you just literally following you. We first met uh with you back in 2023. Yeah. Oh, so that was two years ago. No, one year ago. Three years ago. The first conference can just click here. One second. W Pyal Tak very popular filament. I agree. Tell me the news. I have no news, dude. I literally took took ownership of your booth. Is that okay? Yeah. Are you live? Yeah. You want to say hi? Come here. I literally took ownership because it's such a nice spot here with a lot of values behind. Holy [ __ ] We're going to have the interview tomorrow. The what? An interview tomorrow. If you want to Yeah, absolutely. Some rapid fire. Hello guys. Hey, how you doing? Use talk stack. People are saying hi Aries Floridaian. filament is very good reason to use the tall stack especially if you understand the front end chat right on the chat which framework for the front end you prefer inertia or uh tall stack I don't know what do you prefer Iris I'm all about uh come here come here come about you are a tall guy though sorry you are a tall guy I am tall look at this oh my god perfect you said what you were saying So I do prefer tailwind for sure, right? And inertia. So inertia. Yeah, inertia. Inertia. Liveware is also my I do use it from time to time, right? But I think inertia is the best. I'm using inertia with react. React. React. Yeah. Greeting to Aries from Greece. One. What? Greetings. Greetings to you from Greece. Ah. So I don't know. Let me let me see the name. You let me see the name. So this is uh Vasali's dome. Yeah, I'm at I prefer stack. We make it all the time. I love the energy. Give me one random tip. Nuno. Well, I don't know anymore. Just write tests. That's it. Oh my god. I love your booth here, man. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Pretty sweet. There is no space here where I can just literally put the camera there and just come here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's good for me. I mean, uh, you're also showcasing your new show. That's good. Maybe you don't have any hoodies. You don't have what hoodies? Yeah, I don't. It was last minute thing. So, is that yours? No. Oh, what happens if you What happens if you use this camera? If we bring t-shirt for you right now and uh we can have good picture if you can wear it. Uh, yeah. If I can change myself. Or I can just put on top of this. Yeah, let's do it. Yeah. The t-shirt at order. What's up? T-shirt is at hotel. T-shirt is at hotel. If someone is coming here then please please tell them because room key and I forgot again the pass t-shirt. So I have a pass t-shirt for you. A pass t-shirt for you. Okay. So let's not go away without giving you that. Okay. So I was wondering what is this? So I think uh it's guy who is managing this. Oh like a security guy. We all have uh I cannot go to Bangladesh dude. There is no Laval or meetups over there. Hi. Hi everyone. She's member from the lot from the lot gang. From Lara Gang lot of gang. It's badass. Yeah. Let's hit that like button chat like button and subscribe the channel. What is the plan for your talk? It's tomorrow. Stre AI engineering. So still still thinking about that. Holy [ __ ] I just appear on the picture. All members. Hi Lang. Please visit Cooch. K. What is that? Cooch. K U T. But technology. Sorry. Oh, it's a company. It's my company. My own startup. Oh, here you go. Hi Lang. It's Vic Cut. Please visit C. This coach means that is the place city. Oh, it's a city then. Oh, it's a city. Okay. Oh, camera likes you. Look at that. This is the energy of Lakon. You guys see in any other conference people will just run away. Here they want to appear. So, it's pretty cool. J city. What is that? Jud city. Jude city. The last time the event was there. it wasn't the city was Gandhi. Behind that. Oh behind that city is famous in Gandhi. Okay. I have a lot of army. Okay. Oh, she's so nice. Come here. Oh my god. So, what is the plan? You guys give him a t-shirt or what? Yes, but Oh, nobody has the key. Yeah, he brings tomorrow then. Yeah, brings tomorrow. I follow her in all my social network. I think I'm talking about you. People follow you on social media. That's why they say Sony Web Technology or you can follow me at Webx Technology or Tech as well. Come visit Buchi. Give stickers. No, no, I don't have stickers here. I'm on Laval News booth at the minute, so I don't even know. All right, I'm going to I won't put you on spot anymore. Saying that it's moving my side. Yeah, it is like capture. So, this green thing means that he captures someone. So, you can literally move around like them. It will still go around. Give it give it a try. You just go around. You will see that it will just follow you all over the place. You see? So, well, it's supposed to like work with me, but it's clearly working for everyone else. So, Lakon Pakistan someday. Dude, you need to organize meetups before that. You know what I mean? All right, I'm going to do like this. There we go. Just went crazy now. Good advertising people are saying. Yeah, it will just in a second. Yeah, don't worry. Here we go. You can review each and everyone how is how you can That's a great idea actually. That's a great idea. Just go and just speak with Doing that right now. That's a great idea actually. Yeah, you can create shorts on. Yeah, it's a great idea. I could do it. What do you think, Shad? W interview people. What do you guys think? Any specific? I'm waiting for Lakon agito. Not happening. I think the camera is always loves everyone but Nuno. That's true. Can we use a repository pattern with a solid principle in Laravel? Repository pattern is not good. Hey man, how you doing? Laravel developers all right. Nice. Tall stack or inertia? Inertia. You're the first guy telling me that today. So, welcome to the team. Inertia. Really? Yeah. I'm using Inertia with React. I love Telstack. I'm also using actually I love both. I mostly use Inertia with the React and I I'm comfortable with the like view because it is very easy. Oh, I see. You guys looking fancy, huh? Fencer than me? No, you are looking so smart. You are so smart. Uh Portugal. Portugal. Yeah. Have you been there? No, I haven't. Not yet. Okay. Yeah, I'm from Portugal. Uh you know that was I was doing the math is 9,000 kilometers to come here. So that's two flights. You landed here 2 days ago, right? Yeah. So yeah, but I before it's all right. Before that I actually slept in Dubai for 2 days. Right. But why there is no direct flight? Well, that is well, no, that is like always a step over. It's a question if I want to do it like immediately or I want to stay a little bit on Dubai. So, I stay for two days on Dubai to not have any jet lag basically. Your song on YouTube, I like it. Recording many times you put some songs. Oh, yeah. I'm doing shorts, uh, videos, live streams, trying to pretend to know what I'm that I'm a YouTuber, but yeah. W inertia. Why the repier pattern is not good because it sucks. If you build any any live app with it, you'll get it. I have a challenge for you. Find a developer whose inertia with Zvelt. That's a good question. They are saying like find someone who is inertia with svelt which is that is actually it's very difficult. Yeah. Because is good but you don't see a lot of spelt with inertia. So what you like you think react uses more boiler plate than you? Why do I think react is more picked in view? No, no, react uses more boiler plate than means in react there is a boiler plate code is more compared to any other language. You want to ask like that. Uh and for when we use the AI so it uses more of the token. So do you think like in that sense that view will take over? That's actually a good question. So you're saying that view syntax is more minimal therefore uses less less to less tokens is less expensive. That's actually a good point. So I'm going to be honest with you. I've been using React with AI all the time. So I don't actually know, you know, but I do think like in the sense we are going to see a lot of either languages or protocols that are smaller and we have seen one. I don't know if you guys have seen so people are super used to JSON. There is a new protocol who have replaced JSON for AI. Have you guys seen that? Have you have you seen that? There is another protocol for it's like a man for reading data. Right. Right. But I'm trying to remember the name. I forgot. Chad. Do you guys know the name of that protocol? It's like something like JSON JSON. It's like a JSON but it's looks it's just way less tokens. It's just for the chat JPD or something like that where the tokens is very I think it's to Oh my toes to exactly exactly exactly that. Yeah. Yeah. So it's just to avoid the uh u few tokens which which consumes more uh you know energy for the AI right so I think like that's a very preliminary initial version of that of that um protocol that will replace Jason but I think we are going to see way more like this is moving so fast things are moving so fast that I think we'll just you know over time we'll just be replaced yeah the shed say tune It's exactly that. Um, please wave your People are saying you guys need to say hi. Can I get a picture of you? Yeah. Yeah, let's do it. Was my first time in. Yeah. Let me just fix this real quick. Here we go. Yeah, let's do it. Thank you so much. Hey, thank you. Thank you. You want to do pictures, too? Okay. Picture time. This guy is not stable much. This guy is not stable too much. It is getting disturbed. Oh, no. It's all good. Yeah, it's all good. Thank you. Yo, Shad, let me know how the audio is, okay? Type W audio if you think the audio is okay. Hey, you're welcome, man. Thanks. What's your name? Can I see your name? Yeah. Dbeck. Okay. Well, nice to meet you. You are Anthony. Okay. is your friend. Oh, gang member. Lara gang member. Okay, nice. How are you? Okay. Hey, how you doing? Nice to meet you. What's your name? Sahil. Sahil. Okay. I'm Nuno. Nice to meet you. Yeah, I know you. Okay. Well, definitely I don't know you. Three times. We already have met three times in past three. Oh, right. It's a lot of people. So I do remember some faces though like I you know I I find them familiar because I can see the faces but you know some people just sleep away. So it's hard to remember people. Exactly. Welcome. Yep. I'm going to start doing some faces like or whatever. Is that any good? That was fabulous. Nice to meet you. India programmers, of course. Can I see it? Is that bad? Oh my god. Just look at this, Chad. Just look at this crap. Look at this face. What do you guys think? W or L? I'll post it on LinkedIn. Yeah, you need to put it LinkedIn. H Instagram. Instagram. Twitter, dude. Twitter. Yeah, Twitter is badass. You can do it on Instagram, too. But yeah, can we have this? Yeah, nice to meet you. What's up? How you doing? Facebook. WhatsApp? Well, WhatsApp is okay, but Facebook it's been like [ __ ] 20 years, I guess. That is that one. It's a beam kitty. Good. Rockstar. Thank you. That would go viral next. I agreed. Hello from Italy. Nice to meet you, dude. How you doing, Ethan? What are you guys working on today? You guys watching me in the background, I assume. So, what are you guys working on? By the way, type W audio chat so I can know this this audio is in sync. How you doing, by the way? No, no, nice to meet you. already and I already Hey, nice to meet you. Enjoy the conference. Enjoy the energy. Are you guys dancing like on the party after? Definitely. We'll meet tonight. Yeah. I need to teach me like the garba the garba thing. Okay. Yes. Yes. All right. Hey, see you again. Thank you. How you doing? Last year. Last year. Hi. Nice to meet you. Same team. No, no, we are together. We are together. Last last time we played. Oh, that was fun. Behind you only. I said like do this. But this year I want to do better. You know, last time I I I don't think I was a good dancer. I don't think I was a good dancer. Se you guys are going to see that in a second, but let me know. Best stream out there. Audio 100%. Thank you so much, Chad. You guys are awesome. Just watching Nuno. Thank you. So a selfie, right? Oh, thank you man. So inertia tall stack. What do you guys do? Uh we do uh lar only we have react separate that's why like a separate app. Uh yeah same repo or different repos? No different. Like actually react is running on electron. It's a windows application. Oh. So how you guys handle deployments for example like if the back end changed and not everyone is the same front end right because it's in desktop app how do you deal with that you just you do versioning or something like that no we don't push until the everything is ready oh like it's product only so we have like long time it's like if you have service we are working in service so we have like nearby deadlines we have long deadlines so Like if if teacher takes 1 month of time. So we keep 3 months at least in a QA. Oh like the the application is exam in a portal. Got so like the problem is like if any bugs come on a live so it will impact the exam of like user gives exam on that like university college. So we try like minimal bugs on a live. So that's why we keep long time in the Q. Oh makes sense. Hardly takes one month in a development 3 months in Q. Makes sense. Makes sense. All right. Enjoy the conference. Thank you so much for saying hi. Yeah. I just want to take a selfie. It's a good one. All right. See you around. Thank you so much. Yeah. See you around, man. Hey, what's up? How you doing? Thank you. Hey, thank you. Thank you for coming. We watch your stream. It's interesting. Yeah. Say hi to the stream then. I saw one PHP source speed. PHP source speed. Oh, yeah. Well, I'm actually, you know, you'll find this like funny, but I'm actually a fan of a show speed. I actually love his streams. But to be honest, like if someone speaks seriously, then it it's like boring kind of like if if I I can show your stream like where I'm from continuously. Like it becomes like entertainment as well as learning more about Yeah. I honestly love his streams. All right. I'm going to ask someone a favor. Can you come here? Can you hold the stream while I just go fetch something? Like I'm saying, you can review how do Yes. Yeah. Just Hey, come and share your experience. Come share your experience. Punipal. How was the Lacon? No. I think give me share your expression uh expressions and experience experience as well. Yeah, it's uh my fourth time Laracon in India and it was a superb superb super superb. Uh so let's uh come here and let's check the vibe, energy, culture and everything here. It's uh super not only for to know the tag. So why should someone attend Laracon? Someone attend attend Lacon due to meet the speakers to enjoy the networking and to grow wherever you are. Just here at the Lakon we heard the new word like rebirth yourself. So what one thing you learned from Larakon? Uh like never give up. Uh never give up. Uh just grow grow and take actions learn and um take actionable steps as well. Mhm. Come here. So um Chira will now share his experience about Lakon. It's awesome. Uh first of all I would like to thank you Laravel Ahmedabad community and Laravelon India community to get me a chance to attend this kind of conference and uh it's a great platform for all of us to learn many things. Thanks to all speakers. So who is your favorite speaker today? The one and only Nuno. Nuno. What what his talk is about? Talk but I What is Nuno's talk? I don't know about but I like the P. Yeah. Okay. We'll take one more. Nuno. Yes. This charge. Beautiful. You guys are awesome. Thank you. Shad, how the audio is in sync. W PO by the way in W G for just literally running this interview. Okay. You are an by the way. Yeah. Take your uh what is the shirt? I'm coming back. What the [ __ ] We're doing the photo thing, right? No, let me take your interview. Oh, you want to interview me? Oh, [ __ ] I'm going to be interviewed. All right. All right. Go ahead. Hey, what's your name? Nuno. I'm Nuno. Yeah. Where are you from? Uh, Portugal. Okay. So, why should someone you uh attend Larakon? So, to gain some energy, ideas. I think it's awesome for, you know, just um being refreshed in your mind a little bit. For me, at least it works that way. When I finish a lot of I always get a bunch of ideas to work on, a bunch of energy. Allons are special. I think India is even more special in some sense because you guys are just so so awesome and you are awesome as well by the way. So how many Laracons you attended so far? So I spoke in 17 Lacons. 17 but attending probably like 25 I would say. So what was your first LACon? Uh Lakon EU Amsterdam in 2017 2018. yeah. So when you did first Laravel live? Uh Laravel live was probably on the same year Laravel live year. Oh. So what you what's your cooking for? Oh what are you cooking for paste five? Uh past five I have no idea. So do you want to share any hints about what you're going to like present tomorrow? Yeah. So I'm going to talk about strict AI engineering which is literally just uh you know preparing your app in a way that AI will understand clearly what are things you like and just oneshot features from that no skills no guides guidelines or whatever a simple strict type code will just literally unshot one shot features with agents yeah so how many agents you have uh like used so far I just use cloud code oo 4.5 that's it that's the only thing I use in build plan Um um plan mode. Oh yeah. Okay. That's that is from my Thank you so much for having me. My name is Nuno. See you all. You can have it. Oh, thank you so much. Something. What do you guys think about this? It's badass. It's badass. Huh? Badass. Thank you so much. I'm going to I'm going to put it here. Yeah, we can hear as well. The camera is here as well. Oh. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I will put it here. Wait, wait, wait. No, of course not. Wow. Is it any good chat? W gang. Okay. W gang chat. If you guys like it. See this L gang. Lana gang shhat. You are now official member of gang. Oh. So now it's for now it's for real. Group photo. Yes. Group photo. Group photo. Can you click group photo as well? No. No. Thank you. Thank you. Oh my god. What I'm doing? Group photo. I will sit down. Sit down. No. No. Sit down. So, which camera is the Sony one? Oh, is that one? One, two, three. One more. One more with this camera. No, one more for setting up. So, wait. That's why he's saying like move bit that way. So, perfect. Center. Oh yeah, you will be in the center. No, no. Yeah, you should you should come here, man. You should be in the middle. Like literally. Yeah, just in the middle. You got it signed. You're good. You're good. You're good. One more. One more. One more. Nice. Done. Thank you. Turn back. Wang [ __ ] What's up? No, it will just follow. It's all good. Just don't have to worry. Yeah. From your advice, I got it signed. So he signed to you. It's crazy. You should have told him like something like from all my loveah from Taylorville. That would be much better on Skype. Give me one moment. Your I said your stream is mirrored. That's intentional, dude. What do you mean? Where is my tea? All is writing in reverse. Wait, what? What do you mean? The stream is just perfect, dude. Like, what the [ __ ] Well, to be fair, my name is a little bit out of sync indeed. Let me fix this. Yep. Oh, you mean the letters? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I will fix it. When do you want to run the interview, dude? When do you want to run the interview? Tomorrow. Anytime you want. You want now? I We can do now. Yeah. Are you okay with being streamed? Is that okay? I don't mind. You don't mind? Okay. Let's finish the photo. Yeah. Sh the being the t-shirt name being mirrored. That's expected. So, where do we go? So, we need to follow the what what our camera photographer is saying. [ __ ] Is the audio okay? Let me know. It should be good. Yeah, it's a microphone. Oh, I finally got what he means. Okay. So, my my ass will be on the spotlight. My ass will be just lying in the middle. Will you be sleeping tomorrow doing my talk? No. You better hurry up, dude. I'm getting blind here. How you doing? All right, it's done. All right, sh just one more one hour. One more hour. Okay. Oh my god. One more one more hour and we'll be done with this picture. Kid supports dark mode, right? This is Laval. Yes. Yo, you're making a movie or a picture at the same position? Yeah, there is a button. You click on it. exactly. There. There you go. Turn around, man. He's playing around. All right. Done. Oh my god. No. No. Not yet. Not yet. Not yet. Do you want to see? Done. Good job. Good job. Good job. I just want to click one picture if you don't mind. Let's do it. What we need here for the for the thing. I'm going to get the guy with the camera. And I also need another guy holding the camera. So, give me one moment. We'll not leave you. Thank you, man. Appreciate. Really appreciate the audio is good. Thank you so much. The short name is mir expected. I think it's mirroring. Yeah, that's all expected chat. So, thank you so much. You probably written Gujarat. Does anyone speak Gujat? You speak Gujarat? Yeah. Come here. What? What does this means? Like, oh, kisak udar. Oh, I mean just side just side just by side. Oh, just he's saying we need to retake that interview again because he missed to take a photo. I can do it. Yeah. Where is another mic? Or we can Or we can just do this. We just hold it. Yeah. Let's do it. So, what do we Oh, Harris, you want to do that? you guys can. Oh, so we were waiting for a second. And I thought, how many you have like one more? I just have one. Yeah, you have this third one. So, oh, so I don't need this. This one? No, you can possibly this camera. So, so many cameras. Yeah. And this camera. So, there's three cameras, right? That one, that one, and that one. All right. All right. We are going to run an interview for this real quick. Okay. Ready? Zoom out this too much. Thank you. Appreciate it. Still 100%. Yeah. I don't know what's what happened, honestly. Like, I still don't understand why it goes out of sync. And why do I need to restart the stream, honestly. He's a rockstar. Thank you. Double click on the thing and it's fine. Are you ready? that's that's the camera, right? That's the main one. And this that's a real one. Yeah. Okay. Three, two, one. This side. It's good. Yeah. Three, two, one, start. So, say who you are and what you do. Yeah. My name is Nunu. I am a PHP Laravel developer. I'm also part of Laravel core team. I have created past pint pale and a few other tools and yeah mainly Laravel developer and happy to be at Lacon India one more time. I love this conference. How many times have you been in Lacon India so far? Uh this is my third Lakon India but fourth time coming here because I have been in a lot of live event okay here in India as well in Mumbai. So this is my third time in Amdabad though. So what would you say to someone that would like to join Lon India at some point? someone that hasn't been in India before. Yeah. So, you know, if you are from India, you probably know the energy in Lacon. Um, if you are an international coming, you know, from the outside, I think the energy in India just you don't find this anywhere else. Like it's just different, you know. Obviously, all the all the others are special, but I do think that Lacon India is just in another level in terms of energy. I love to be here. I'm you know, I'm going to be here every time I can honestly cuz it's just Yeah, it just, you know, my energy goes through the roof on this Nice. So I do have some questions for Yeah, go ahead. So what is one L feature more developers should be using in your opinion that they're not using any at the moment? Right. So Laravel by default actually offers a bunch of strict features that don't not a lot of people rely on. Uh I don't know if it's because they simply have the other coding style than I do for example but uh you know Laval models for example they have this beautiful trait called as EU uids. So you can use that for UIDs by default. Uh jobs for example can be encrypted by default if you want to. Um models can be strict as well by default if you want to. My entire talk will be about that. Tomorrow I'm going to share a bunch of tips like But I think in general laval has so many little things that can make your app super strict you know that can make your app as much strict as possible. And if you are a developer who loves these kind of things it can really get you like you just love it. Cool. Okay. So next question is what is the fastest way to make a Laravel app feel faster in terms of speed? Uh the fastest way I would recommend Laravel Octane with Franken PHP. I think franken PHP is a beautiful technology and um you know we all love Franken PHP a little bit but but I think with Octane especially it just your lot will get a 30% improval. I think being on the latest PHP version also helps a little bit and it just doesn't cost anything really. So yeah, like the speech version, a lot of Loctane and that really helps. Yeah, that's very cool. Okay, so next question is uh how do you keep up with Laval changes in general, but in use for in terms of resources and everything, you know, right? So I'm a little bit lucky cuz I, you know, I just work at Laval, but also I, you know, I get to see what is new in Laval in general. What I would advise to people, you know, is just, you know, create a Twitter account. Just follow Laravel's Twitter account because literally every week we not only have Laravel tweeting about stuff but we also have videos by the our marketing team Christopher Brample Josh Leah all of them are working on creating content to Laravel and they always speak about Laravel new features you know I know that you know for a fact that this AI SDK for example will have a bunch of content on social media so we'll be able to see everything coming new to this AI SDK so yeah that's what I would recommend to people that's so cool I have one last question for How so how is AI actually helping you in your Laravel workflow daily? Uh good question. So the way I use AI is first of all I don't have a highly complicated um you know agent skills. Yeah like like I do you know a lot of people have this I don't have a lot of complicated things but I can tell you for the fact that knowing how to prompt AI is important. uh meaning that a few things I do is first of all I I give him the big picture of what I'm trying to accomplish but then I ask him to execute it slowly and I always wait for my approval on things. So if I want a feature that has like the full spectrum things like controllers, models, migrations, test kind of the full picture, I always ask AI to uh you know start with the migration you know and it will just crafting the migration then I say well maybe do this and that and once I'm happy with the migration I ask you can move forward and what I've noticed is that when you move like this not only you have control of the code you are shipping but at the same time you also kind of you can you can guide the AI like for example imagine that AI AI doesn't craft a lot of action which is something I really love. I can just say wait a second before moving to the front end or before just continue to move forward make sure you use an action here. So you can just literally shape the AI things shape it to the way you want. Yeah. Shape it in the way you want. You also control every single piece of code going shipped into production. I'm going to speak a lot about this tomorrow but I really feel like agentic coding which is what we are doing is very different from vibe coding where you only validate the browser. So you want to validate obviously the behavior on the browser but equally you know the entire every single piece of code that is being chipped. Yeah. I do agree with that. Yeah. Do you use cloud code? Cloud code oo 4.5. Yeah. In the CLI I use something called open code. Oh you use open code. That's so open code with cloud code us 4.5. How's that compare to actual cloud code? It's just much better. Is it better? Okay. Yeah. I don't know what you guys think, but I I've been using open code since it's since since the first day I've tried it, which is not a long time ago. Probably 2 months ago. And just super into it. Um, you use API from I use the black subscription # sponsor. Okay. So, you go through a subscription. Yeah, I use the black subscription uh of open code which gives me just generous uh tokens. So, I like it. Yeah, that's what I use. Okay, cool. That's it. Thanks, man. Thank you, man. Love a lot of love a lot of news in your work there, man. Thanks, man. Thank you. Thank you. Perfect. That was good. All right. What do you think, Chad? It was good. Can you get a black subscription? Yes, I got one. W India, for sure, man. N is such a joker. Thank you. Thank you. In the good way or the bad way. Chad, is the audio in sync? Let me know. It should be in sync. I have a microphone. Um, you can This is This is yours, right? What do you think about Codex? Codex is good but you know it's just using cloud code. I've heard that codeex is lower but produces better output. What do you think about that? Audio is still 100%. Thank you. Only in a good way. Thank you so much. All right. I need to take out this sh this shirt without leaking my belly. Let's see if I can do that. Sh. Wait a little bit. Okay. Wait a little bit. Wait a little bit. Sh. I will back you in a couple seconds. Stay l on the backstage at the minute. Chat gang for the win. That was a good one. Yeah, it's open code, right? Open quote. You suggest that, right? Yeah, open code. Super into it. You can take Can you please take one with me? Yes. Come here, man. You deserve it. Come here. Come here. Come here. Yeah. It's It's a natural podcast. Who? No. No. my brother. We have been like brothers. We have been brothers since 2016. It's almost 10 years. We met in Mumbai as a attendee and he was as a speaker and till date we are as a friend and we rocking every Lakon event we made. Woo. Yeah. He is awesome. You know he's here since the very first Lakon. I've been here with Vishall as well. Very nice people. Okay. These are people with very good heart. Yeah. Uh so you know I love them. Uh brother from another mother huh? Yeah exactly. And the first time like I was his tourist guy and I took Nuno and freak to ride a Mumbai different place like it was a really fun. It's a lifetime memory until I always inspired from the Nuno and I consider him as my big brother. Yeah it's a it's actually a life you know a good memory because I almost died that's why. Yeah just kidding. It's amazing whenever I see it's always feeling like a like a big brother. Yeah. What are you using coding wise? As a coding wise right now I agents skills agents we but right now I'm on the platform engineering part where we are closing the infrastructure. Oh I see. Yes. So I'm currently working in the Microsoft Azure and using the terraform and all those things and all those things. Yes I see. Good stuff chat. Good stuff. Do you use Laravel boost uh in your in your lots? Not right now, but my team are using Larl Boost because they meant like if I use if I'm on boost right now cuz I'm Wow. Okay. Oh my god. Our agent coding provides advantages for developers or you just craft code much much faster. Aries, what do you think? Like who doesn't use agentic coding at the minute? Just crazy. It's crazy. We don't have a number even. We don't have even we don't have even number as like who how many numbers are using for real. All right, I'm going to move a little bit. Thank you so much for borrowing me the booth for an hour. Chat, how is the microphone? How is the audio? Come here. Come here. Follow me camera. Follow me camera. Here we go. Here we go. PHP artisan boost add skill energy. Absolutely. [ __ ] I'm going to just put my stuff here in a second. Give me a moment, Chad. Give me a moment. Could you please show the live elevant live? Uh, no I cannot. You know, I cannot. I'm sorry. I can show you the the the venue if you want to. see potential on that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like 10 years. I just is great. [ __ ] yeah. Let's go. Let's go. stream is mirrored apart. That's that's just expected. I don't I don't know if that's fixable even. Okay. I can try to see if it's fixable. Do I really want to do that now? How bad is having We We have time today, Shad. Like today, we are going to stream for probably than more than 6 hours. So, we have time. But, uh I don't know if it's, you know, I don't know if it's even possible to not mirror the stream. You know, I can try to see that if you want to, but I don't even know if it's worth. Indie event is the best. Lakon, I agree. Prank someone Nuno. Why would I do that? Hello. See you in a second. Bye-bye. Yeah. I don't know if it's even possible to not mirror. I don't think we really care. Do we? Yeah. Let's do it. I like your YouTube video so much. I every tooth three day I watch your videos. Ah, thank you so much. Appreciate it. Have have fun at Larakon. Okay. Ud Udaur. What is Udapur? Udipur. Place in Rajasthan. Another place. Okay. So I think basically people is suggesting you the place to visit in India. Oh but I think one Lakon was there though, right? Yes. Yes. Yes. Were you guys were you guys there? No cuz it's very far away, right? Not much far away. Even we travel by then. I see. I see. All right. See you around. Bye-bye, Chad. I'm going to grab my jacket cuz it's so much AC here. Okay. Give me a moment. I'm back. I'm back. I'm back. Back on game. Can we meet tomorrow? I don't dude I'm at Lakon. What do you mean? Well, if you are on Lakon, we can, right Chad? I have something to show you. Okay, I have something to show you. So, here we have a community member. Now, you guys are not ready for this. Okay, you not ready for this. Okay, so show him the t-shirt. Yeah, this is my t-shirt. This has Taylor's tweet. Okay, he's mirrored at the minute, but here says Taylor Roell. This is a Taylor tweet which says the following. Laval is nothing without the awesome community around it. Constantly building awesome stuff. Okay, so this is the front of the t-shirt. Now, let's show the back. This is badass shaded. Look at this. Literally. Oh my god. People told you to people are saying I want that shirt. That's what people are saying. chat w shirt if you think that t-shirt should be on Amazon or should be sold in some store. What do you guys think? I think it's badass. Honestly, it's badass. Where do you got that idea though? Like I have searched on perplexity like best quotes from Taylor or perplex. Oh, interesting. From Taylor or any famous Laravel celebrities. Uh-huh. Then I got uh like the we must ship code and all other codes like I got your code Lara will change my life and WT-shirt. Awesome. I want that t-shirt. Oh my god. Told you, dude. It's just so the the I'm going to be honest, man. The the tweet is awesome, but the back the back with Taylor's face is just on another level. And the fact that Taylor just signed the t-shirt, this is Taylor's signature right there is even more awesome. What what he what he told you like he just smiled? Yeah. I I told like thank you for making Laval and he just smiled. Yeah. And he signed my t-shirt. Oh my god. See, dope t-shirt. Send me a copy. I want that t-shirt. Badass. People love it. Okay. I will start merchandise website. Chad, if you like the shirt, go all the way down and click on the like button and subscribe. Don't you think it's a good idea? No. Sure. Sure. Here we go. Sure. Sure. All right, man. Nice to meet you. Thanks for coming. Huh? Thank you so much. No. See you around. Keep vibing, L. Thank you. Shut up and take my money, dude. Put that on eBay. Honestly, put that on Amazon. Start the bid in one cent. I'm going to put $100 on it and you will get $1,000 easy for that t-shirt. On top on top of it is signed. So, it's now it's even more legit cuz Taylor signed it. You know, it's the first one. Signed it. Just put that breathe that out when people will just throw you money because of that, honestly. Sure. Can I like say one thing? Yeah, I'm Premar. You can follow me on Twitter. My username is pseudo Laravel. #sponsor chat. Here we go. #sponsor pseudo Laravel. Super user do Laravel. Super pseudo or pseudo pseudo like pseudo Laravel like Linux basically pseudo Linux. Okay. Pseudo Linux on Twitter. I say pseudo Laravel. Pseudo Laravel on Twitter. Pseudo Laravel. Okay. Okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. See you around, man. Thank you. People on India are crazy [ __ ] it is just crazy. People bring shirts like like that. Like that is just crazy. 35 people on YouTube. You guys are awesome. Okay. Twitch with a bunch of people as well. You guys are absolutely awesome, bro. I want to be in your team. Thank you. Thank you. How can you join? Go to laval.com careers. Uh that is just a bunch of people there. And I'm going to be honest with you. A lot of people who apply for Lavel, they thought they couldn't get the job, but they got a job. [ __ ] I'm seeing something really cool. We need to try this. Oh my god. Chad, come with me. Come with me. Come with me. Come with me. Hit that like button. Yeah, do that. me. We need to try something here. You want to do it? Yeah, I want to do it. Do you Do you mind if Oh, okay. You doing it? Oh, okay. Yeah, you come here, Chad. We doing something crazy. You guys ready? Okay. Okay. Okay. Let me show you. Let me show you. Let me show you. Let me show you. Huh? Oh, you want to hold it? Okay. Uh, can you hold this as well? Okay. I'm going to just switch the camera real quick. Bad camera. Yeah. Okay. Done. Now, normally that will just Yeah. Done. Boo. Okay. I don't know where I'm going here. Who's controlling this though? You can use my camera. You're controlling that? No. No. I can. You require camera to Oh, I need to put a phone there. You have my phone. I have my phone. Your phone? Yeah. So, just go here. Yes. And uh Yeah. No. Okay. How about now? Uh so just press record. No, no. Give me a camera first. Oh, you just we'll just do this. Okay. How about now? I just do some silly faces. Oh, I don't do anything. Oh, I just follow, right? Follow it. Look, there's no I'm getting I'm getting Oh, do you want to take one more? Uh, no. I think that was good. Yeah. Oh, nice. No, no, not here. What's up? Okay, now let's see the result though, right? Let's see the result. You don't know. Let's see. Okay, Chad, this is the result. Can you see anything? Yeah, you can see. Okay, this is staying on my phone chat. Okay, do not clip this. Okay, do not clip this. Totally forbidden. Especially this part. Oh my god. Yeah. All right. Thank you, man. What's your name? Mitesh. W Miteshhat. W Mesh. Okay. Hey. No. No. Can I can I take photo? Yeah. Let's go here. Come here. Sexy bro. Thank you. I guess selfie. Um, yo, what's up? Just click photo. Yeah, let's do a photo. Yeah, let me just change this. Here we go. I'm going to do this. Sh, how is the audio? Still on sync? Let me know. So, who want pictures? Yep. One more. Thank you. Nice to meet you, too. Thank you. Nice to meet you. Finally, I need to take a photo. He's taking the picture with the phone like turned off. Give a straight photo. Now, you have both everything. You are the first two who took me a picture like this. See my Okay. That's a good one. Hello. Nice to meet you. What's your name? Shalin. I'm Nuno. Nice to meet you. I was looking for you for so long. Thank you. Enjoy the conference. Thank Hello. Nice to meet you. I'm Nunu. Nice to meet you. It's that one. Hey, thank you. Nice to meet you. Hey, how you doing? How are you doing? We met for the second time. You are on a live. Hi guys. Audio is perfect. Thank you. It's fun. Sh. Don't forget to subscribe and click on the like button. Huh? we go. Jerry Veros, just follow Jerry Vos. He is just perfect on the feedback. All right, Shad. Let's do Let's see a few more things. Oh, okay. Yeah. Team picture. Genor, how you doing? Yeah, I think she wants us. Okay. Thank you. So the company is threat in Ahmedabad. You do web development with Lavl? Yes. Actually we work in healthcare products. Oh okay. Everyone is like web developer here. Yes. Except you are the product manager. Oh okay. I see. So Inertia or LA or Talstack? What do you guys use? I use Vue.js. Vue.js in inertia. No, not inertia. Just regular Vue.js with a lot of back end. Same repo or different repo. Actually we have three products and every product has same repo in Laravel plus V.J. JS. Right now we are using Vue3. So basically we are doing compliance management. Oh I see. So why didn't you went with inertia then? Actually it is very old project. Oh inertia came after the I see. Initially we were planning with like a separate system in L react but later on we thought that view is newer system so we should migrate so you just hit the you just hit the API every time you want like info and stuff actually it is the same system so we don't have to hit API like separately so oh same experience as inertia but without inertia okay interesting well it's like very straightforward system so it is easier maintain well awesome see you guys around all right thank you so much for saying hi. Thank you. Waiting for your session. Thank you. It's tomorrow. Yeah, good to see you. Thank you. Doino, you are awesome by the way. WWW for you. This year a lot of web developers. Next, a lot of agentic tools developers. I don't know, man. I've been thinking about this more and more and I'm going to be honest. I don't think I don't think things are going to change that much. I think all of us are going to do a lot of agent based code you know agentic coding but at the end I think we'll be still about being on a laptop thinking about solutions and you know and just you know think about them basically I also feel like today I saw a tweet from Matias Gim who said something like the developers who were successful coding without agents are the developers who are now still successful coding with agents and that is just something I've noticing a bunch and it's just a reality. You know what I mean? Uh so, you know, I don't think like the talented people don't need to be just that concerned. Jerry Ver is saying the following. I really missed the event to do a financial issue. What happened, man? What happened? Are you Where are you from? By the way, sh a huge a huge shout out to all my sponsors. Jet Brains, you know, PHP Storm, Redberry International, Code Rabbit, Devon, Titan, like all these companies who are supporting my work since day one, I really appreciate. Okay, you guys are absolutely awesome. Okay. Absolutely awesome. And dope. Okay. And dope shad the highlight of today. Um, you know, I have been watching the talks so far. At least in the morning, I was watching all of the talks and I think they were awesome. I really like the jazz archer talk. So when the time the conference start the conference already started this morning. So time here is different from Europe or US. Basically it's 5 hours and a half um after the Europe time. It's probably like 10 hours after US. I don't even know. I do know that US people are currently sleeping are currently sleeping. So you know where you guys from? It's a lot a lot of new faces today, which is good in a sense. It's good. A lot of new faces. I want to show you guys the entry real I am from Voda Voda, bro, but I'm not able to join because my family blah blah blah or specialized. Oh no, dude. Apologize to hear that. I really apologize to hear that. Hope things are going to be better in the future. I'm from Benin, Africa. Wow, that's awesome. All right, let me show you this kind of cool, right? So this is the very entry basically of the conference. Are you feeling any jet lag? Not anymore. I spent two days on Dubai. So we basically don't have any jet lag like zero. Beautiful. I know. I wanted to see Povillas. So Povillas went for a quick rest because you can get very overwhelmed when you are just walking around. you can get very overwhelmed, very overwhelmed because you just it's just a lot of people. And now we are on the breaks. Uh we are during the talks basically so there's not a lot of people. But uh if you just spend the entire day here on just the venue, everyone will be come to you just um you know it's good. I I honestly enjoy it. I like I like it. You from Brazil? Nice. Jefferson, what time is it in Brazil at the minute? W povas the same dinosaur. W Pillas for the win chat. We all love Povillas. Laval news booth chat. Yeah. Is Jun the organizer of Flatonu also here? Yes, it is. Yes, it is. you know, and any Lakon event in Africa. I don't know Lacon events, but what you can do is search on Luma or meetup.com for events. Um, you know, it doesn't have to be a lot of one. It can be a PHP one, can be a web developer one, and you just search for one and you just go. That's a good start. Vishall is saying the following. Um, are you I cannot see the question. Jesus Christ. One second. Love people want to talk to you and get information from your experience. Thank you. Povas is super nice. It is W daily in his commitment. Yeah, Laval Daily. Yeah, he's awesome. Dude, I'm going to be honest, man. CBT Mal and Adrian, they configured this thing called it 7TV emoji which does these little animations and they are just so good. Just so good. Uncle Povillaas. Well, if Povilla is his uncle, what do I am? You got a champion. Well, thank you. I don't think I'm a champion, but thank you. Appreciate it. All right, Shad. I think now I can show you a little bit more from the booth. It is not a lot of people except David. So, I think I can go now. Do you want to be on camera a little bit? I'm tired. You tired? Oh, dude, you were a avenger. I published a message on Slack saying you were an avenger today. Whoa. Why don't you go for food or a walk? Honestly, you can go. Yeah, I will at some point. I'm just I'm I'm being, man. I'm being dude. I I I saw you were an Avenger, Honestly, I I was a little bit scared. Like, I was there. We We survived. I was like, "Oh my god, I won't I won't because there was like already five people here." So, it was already like [ __ ] you know, it's crazy. Crazy. Yes. Dave, take care of yourself. Yeah, I agree. You should do that. What do you think about beach sites? Hey Jess Arch. Oh, my camera just go crazy. Like what the You want to see Vlad chat? Come here. Come here. Come here. Say hi, Vlad. Hey, Vlad is a awesome person. Chad, you're never leaving the the the streaming, huh? Uh, no. I'm planning on streaming the entire, you know, until go to bed. Now, that's why you have the charger, right? Yeah, it's the bunker. Chad. Chad. I don't know if you guys are into bunkers, but this bunker is a [ __ ] beast. It can charge my my laptop. That's how good it is. W Flash. I love W. Everyone typing W flat. Do you know what W means? W. Yeah. It means like on the Twitch vibe means that you are awesome. Is there quadriad? What's up? Like a W. Yeah. W means like is a win. Well, yeah. No. Oh my god. Two time. My camera is going crazy. What the [ __ ] is happening? Hold this for me. There we go. In theory means a win. In theory means a win and L means a loss. However, uh when you say W means like double win. Yeah, you are a nice guy, you know. Thank you, Nuno. You know, you know I love you. WW for flat. Here we go. He's awesome. Thanks for coming, man. Catch you in a www no no no wet. Yesterday I was used I was used p.link and it was awesome. Yeah, it could be way better though. I feel like if I would spend more, you know, a weekend on it, it would just become much better. But I have to think about that. Chad Dave was tired because basically he spent just entire morning giving shirts. So agent is saying the following by the way. No, if you are more than uncle like me or your takes on peachb inside package. So that's a package of mine. I don't use it. I don't think it well I don't think makes sense to me to use peach bins sites. Let's put it that way. Okay. because I don't think I need a tool to tells me to tell me when I should just put a method or if the method is too big. I just can I can get it, you know. I don't need pitch in size. Chad, let me know how the audio is, if the audio is on sync, if you can hear me clearly, if the stream is perfect. And let's agree on something, Chad. Okay, let's agree on something. If you guys lose internet connection with me, so if you stop watching me because the the screen went black, if anything goes out rails with the string, you guys with the stream, you guys just type F. Okay? So every single time you see the stream going offline or just getting out of sync or just a problem, just type F on the chat. Costs nothing. You just have to type F and I will just check the stream immediately on my phone and check what's happening and you just let me know. Okay. Okay. How about the package you have created for final class on testing is still relevant. I don't think it's relevant in the sense that you shouldn't ever mock a class to begin with. I don't know what you guys think. You guys can let me know what you think in the comments, but I think like mocking Final Class Well, mocking in general doesn't make any sense. Okay. Okay. Mocking in general doesn't make any sense. That's what I think. Woohoo. That was a close one. Greetings from Brazil. Thank you. What time is it in Brazil? This is the first time that I have a bunch of people from Brazil watching me. Like, it must be like a good time for you all. It must be. By the way, [ __ ] We have this beautiful amount of people. 14 people on YouTube. That's not a lot. What the [ __ ] is happening? Just put like on the video. You guys know the drill. You guys know the drill. Appreciate it. That like button, that that subscribe button is possible. It's 7:00 a.m. Jesus Christ. You you awake already. That's crazy. So, how you should test the final class? Well, you know, I you just don't have to. For example, if that final class uh needs to be tested in isolation, you just inject different dependencies like um you know fake dependencies on a constructor. Okay. You can also use like HTTP uh facade testing in Laravel that equally works. Facade testing works a bunch. Hey, how you doing? Facade testing work works a bunch. I want to become an excellent developer as you. Thank you. Thank you. Hey, how Sorry to interrupt. Hey, it's all good. Can you just uh boost me on the L account if possible? Oh, that would be with the Laval booth. Okay. You are the speaker, so I thought you can boost me also. Uh well, if I can, I don't know how. So, I think you need to go there. And they will give you like a paper that will give you the boost. So, you are having a ticket ID for this uh uh I had but I lost it so I don't know what it is anymore. No, no, it's my bad. Yeah, it's all good. Hi, nice to meet How you guys doing? Hey, nice to meet you. We connected on LinkedIn. Oh, we did. Nice. Yeah. I will speak tomorrow morning at 10:00 a.m. So, what's your LinkedIn? Uh, search for Nun Maduro. I'm going to be honest, I don't use LinkedIn that much, but I'm there. Yeah, Nun Madura will be there. Yeah, perfect. He's the first one. Yes. I'm Nuno. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Very well know about Every time we are Every time we are. Because every time we are testp Oh, you use fast PHP for testing, right? And especially now is a browser based. Oh, you use the browser stuff. Oh, that's awesome. So yeah, every time like mostly we go and uh remember your name. I've been asking people do you guys use tall stack or inertia or something else? Inertia with what? View or react or view. View with Vue. A lot of view fans here. Huh. Right. So TypeScript or Jav JavaScript. Oh basically some kind of JavaScript. Worst case is JavaScript. But you are migrating or is just because you just is a running project with we use the right. Oh, makes sense. But gradually we are uh we are trying to making the time related some kind of fun. Oh, I see. At least we are not stuck on the middle like we are required some change right yeah definitely right so I currently have let's say half of my projects in JavaScript but just because they are old projects and then the new ones especially they are just all of them in Typescript yeah um TypeScript on the front end PHP 10 stand on the back just you know you enjoying all that shickness huh inertia react is awesome I agree. Inertia, inertia, inertia. Oh yeah. In my streams there's a lot of people who are fan of inertia but also a a lot of people are fan of the tall stack. A lot of people here have answered me tall stack to begin with. Uh basically we are using the tailwind but not alpine basically one one we set up with alpine js. Oh. So sometimes you use alpine js. I' I've seen that especially for marketing pages. can be just just cool, you know, cuz you can just, you know, have someone working on that marketing page with some Alpine um CDN script and you can just get stuff done. Alpine is I think Alpine is a new GQ, honestly. You know, you can just you can just quickly collapse something if you want Is that a pigeon? pigeon. Yeah, pigeon. Oh, they are just chilling here. Okay. I like your opinion. Thank you. W inertia. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. You guys work all together. Oh, okay. Hey, how you doing? Nice to meet you. Second. Nice shirt. We are first. That's not the shirt from this year, No, no, last year. Last year. Right. Last year. We are attending the fourth event. Fourth event in a row. Wow. This is last year. We both are. How about that one? Cuz it's different from this one. Oh, that one was that one was given by the Lakon in India. And this one is given by India. Got you. This is last time. Last year. This was given last time. This was given last to last time. Last year. This is a holi event. You remember what? Holy colorful hol. You will release that. Oh, I missed that one. I wasn't here on that. Yeah, I wasn't here on Atlakon. It's a festival festival of colors. I know. So, but I went on the first first year and I I went last year and I went this year. Oh, you missed the second. So, I missed the second one. Yes. Yeah. Oh, sorry. Yeah. Which is in Udupur or Idapur. It's not in it. Wasn't in Amdabad. People are saying that you guys convinced to use inertia now. was at that time when this event is celebrating in the India. Yeah. Yeah. I'm familiar with it. Yeah. Looks cool. The festival of colors. Looks cool. Yeah. Looks cool. All right. See you guys in Thanks. Nice to meet you. Forever. Thank you. Deep world uncovered. Noo-Noo. How you doing, sir? Guys, pizza. Can we have a selfie? Come guys. We met last time. Oh, we did. Hey. How you doing? Nice to meet you. I was watching your streaming. Promoter. So, how is this time? How you feel? Lovely. I love the weather this year. For some reason, the weather is much nicer than the usual. So, food is good, weather is good, people are nice. Love to be here. Are you planning to come to Jaipur this time? you said next time I will come, I will definitely come to Japur. Oh, I did. Uh, yeah, there's it's not on my plans on this exact moment, but maybe. Yeah, not on the plans at the minute. No, if you ever got the chance. Thank you. I will I will think about it. See you around. Thank you. Love you, bro. Thank you. I want to become an excellent developer as you give me some advice. Uh I I'm not an excellent developer by the way. So there is way more way better people to ask those questions. [ __ ] It's…

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