Syntax LIVE! 1000th Episode Special

Heat. Heat. Hey, N hey. Welcome to syntax. Welcome to syntax. Welcome to syntax. Welcome to syntax. Welcome to syntax 10,00 episodes. Here we are. Syntax number 10,00. We're live streaming the whole thing. We got Scott here. We got myself here. We actually have the whole team here. We got an awesome episode planned for you. So, don't go anywhere. We got some fun history on the podcast. We've got some stats about the episode. I built a bunch of those really fun super cut clips which I think that'll be an episode in itself on building that because that was so cool. But welcome Scott. Congrats on a thousand. Oh Wes congratulations man. Wow. Uh man in 2017. Did you imagine? 1,000 episodes, whole team of people. What a what a cool cool thing this has been so far. Pretty pretty nuts. So today we're going to be going through all that stuff. We're going to introduce the team, go through some of the history. We even I dug up the Google doc that me and Scott on April 1st, 2016. Uh we sort of just banged our heads together as to what a good podcast would look like. And uh I I pulled it up and we're going to go through it together. So let's get on into it. First of all, let's let's bring the team on and uh introduce everyone. It's not just Scott and I. We YAP, but uh there's much more talented people behind the scenes that make this thing work. Yeah. So, the uh first person that joined the syntax team was actually someone who worked with me on Level Up Tutorials. And that is Caitlyn Bloom. Welcome to the show, Caitlyn. Hi, guys. Congratulations on 10,00. That's crazy. Yeah. I'm also I'm kind of dying at the fact that the notion doc was created on April Fool's Day. It wasn't Notion wasn't even a thing back then. I don't think Notion was a thing. This is a Google doc. But yeah, that it's April Fool's Day. Were you guys like, "Is this going to be real?" 10:08 p.m. The funny thing is that we didn't It took over a year from the document until we actually put the first podcast out. It was over a year of us just like mulling it over, being like, "We should do it. You should do it." And like that's that's kind of the trope is everyone's like, "We should start a podcast. Start a podcast. You guys actually did it and you're here. That's so cool." Yeah. Yeah. It's cool to be a part of it. It really is. Yeah. We're so happy to have you. Caitlyn is the marketing manager over at Syntax. She did the same thing for Level Up Tutorials and uh it was kind of a whirlwind to get you on the team. We're going to talk more about that later. Next on the show though is uh our amazing producer Randy Recctor. Uh Randy was the fourth person to join the syntax team and made a huge impact right away because before Randy there was no video. So Randy, do you want to introduce yourself? Yeah. Well, first of all, congrats on the thousand episodes. This is huge. I think I joined the team at 720. It was the Jen Simmons episode. No pressure. The first one that I came on to edit with you guys. Oh yeah. Yeah, that was your first one. And that was that was a huge episode for us because Apple is a tough nugget to get people to to come on. And that was a big people got really mad that we brought somebody on from Apple because everybody hated Apple. They still do. But um man, that was hard to get Jen on and we're like, "Hey Randy, first episode big one." Yeah, it was a great great process joining the team. Honestly, it was a lot of fun because like you guys had a lot of systems in place that that you were pretty comfortable with, but you also had this like total open just just do whatever makes the podcast sick. And I came in at first I was like like I feel like there's no like they don't have any direction for me. I don't know if they like like what I'm doing, but you guys are just so chill with the like make the podcast sick. So, but that was that was part of the hiring process though is that we interviewed so many people and we were essentially just like you tell me what to do, right? Like we want somebody to help us figure out how to make this thing bigger and better and whatever. And like Scott and I know like webdev and and whatnot and and creating content, but we really needed somebody who would tell us what to do. And that's why we landed on Randy because he sort of tells us exactly what to do. And I love it. I appreciate. It's nerve-wracking coming in when you got like 700 episodes and you're like, "Tell me what to do." And I'm like, "You guys are doing a great job already." Like we had no video. We had no We Yeah, we were just kind of doing it. And And that was the funny thing is that the hardest part about transitioning to a team of of folks was like Wes and I were largely working on syntax, you know, a couple days a week just recording and and then editing and preparing and stuff like that. He and I are both um maybe less structured. So like bringing on people is like having to add structure. How do you add structure without killing the vibe? Yeah. So like like 10 minutes before this live stream, CJ's like, "So what are we going to do?" And Scott and I are like, "Uh like we have we have a huge document of ideas and notes and stuff." And then usually usually what happens with each of the podcasts is um we spend anywhere from like we spend our whole week researching and learning and whatever. But then like the actual notes as to how the podcast will be approached is usually between 45 minutes to 3 hours depending on what the the podcast looks like. And we kind of just have a bunch of demos ready and and a bunch of stuff to go towards. But we are a little bit more off the cuff than what some people would like. Well, I think that's one of your guys' strengths, right? That's why everyone loves you guys because it's just hanging out who happen to have a podcast. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I guess that that's a good introduction to uh the fifth member of the team, CJ CJ Reynolds. Uh he joined our team as a well YouTube expert and content creator. CJ, what's up? Hello. Uh not much. Yeah. Um I don't know what to say. I'm excited to be here. I I think um if we're talking about like how I got onto the team um I I had to interview it as a process um I think I had imposttor syndrome for like at least the first six months of like do I even belong here because I used to listen to syntax myself on my commute. Um so yeah to join and then be able to make my own videos. I think initially you guys hired me was like dive into topics that are on the podcast. So I did a lot of that. Now I'm doing a lot more of my my own stuff, like what I'm interested in. Um, but yeah. Hello. Everybody loves CJ the most. Um, if you go into the comments, everybody says CJ wins. Even the videos where CJ isn't in. Uh, everyone says CJ wins. But no, we we interviewed quite a few people for CJ and like it was very clear that like CJ was like know knew his [ __ ] right? Like he was he's he's technically very capable. you can see that when he kicks our butt in in all the coding competitions, right? But he also like knows how to explain things well. Um like get his his thoughts across and and also like editing as well. Like often CJ will jump into a video and be like, "Let me just add little zooms and stuff here and there to a video and be like, "Oh, that's so much better." Yeah, CJ really want uh like I want to say like the hiring we had so many applications in that hiring process for CJ's position and everybody was great. Everybody interviewed really well. There were just some amazing people who who came and showed up for this process. And then the meeting that we had to discuss like our thoughts on the interviews. Uh I feel like every single one of us came to the table came to the meeting be like, "Guys, I really want to advocate for hiring CJ for this position." like and everyone was kind of expecting it to be like uh like like they're going to have to fight for CJ when in reality we were all in agreeance that it was like we all wanted to fight for CJ to get the job. So yeah, you you uh you crushed that process. Um I appreciate that. I will say I've grown in this role too. So before this I was mainly just a live streamer. So um that's where I got my start on a channel called Coding Garden. Um, and so like I I used to live stream like four four days a week and teach coding. Um, but in this role I've kind of had to learn how to edit and how to do more production instead of just going live. Um, and I think I think I've gotten pretty decent at it. But I think that's that's one thing I've enjoyed about this role is like branching out from live streaming and creating more like edited produced content. we're happy to have you. Speaking Yes, we're so happy to have you. And and speaking of edited content, our latest uh our latest hire in addition to the syntax team um is Nikki Bradner who who came on earlier this was at the very end of last year, the tail end of last year, November, October. Uh all the way from Amsterdam. Welcome, Nikki. Yes. Hi. How are you guys? Congrats on the thousand episode. It's so nice to be here. Thank you. Yeah, we're we're so lucky to have Nikki. her first full edit, like Nikki's been doing a lot of edits, especially part of the mad CSS and all all over this channel, but her latest full edit was the Artemis vibe off video and uh including all the hilarious animations and stuff. Nikki, you just like brought a whole lot of new energy to this team and we're so happy to have you on here. Oh, likewise. It's so nice to be here. It's so funny like I still I can join CJ on that like I still have imposter syndrome. It's I joined like end like beginning of October but it's still like I just feel like settling in but it's so nice to be here. Awesome. Uh let's get into some stats. I ran the numbers. Um, basically I took not every episode we did because the syntax website has transcripts, right? And for some reason the transcripts only go back about 750 episodes. So, we got a bug. We got to figure it out. It's in Sentry, right? Um, what sentry.io/intax by by the way. Uh, coupon code tasty treat all lowercase all one word. But I I took those 700 transcripts and like tried to do some data science on it and figure out um who speaks more, what are the most common phrases and things like that. So chat, let us know who do you think talks more in an episode between Scott and I. Never mind the guests and and whatever of people having on. I'd like to see what people think. Or team, who do you think yaps more, Scott or me? I think it's you, Wes. I know the answer. So I which is funny because in my everyday life I'm known as the person who does not stop talking. So uh the fact that I can be outtalked by Wes is uh that's an accomplishment. Wes, so 30 out of 100% uh 38% is me speaking. uh 34% is Scott speaking and then the rest are either undetectable or guests or or things like that. So yeah, uh I talk about four or five% more than Scott on any given episode which which I agree sometime especially some of the like the recent NextJS one. I was looking at the stats and uh Scott hardly got a word on that one. Yeah, sometimes the interviews are tough because there's, you know, especially when there's three or four people. Wes and I are like constantly trying to fight each other as to who's going to like we should have a better system. We actually proposed a little hand raising system. Um, but then you you can't get Wes to adhere to anything like that. No, it ruins the flow, you know, especially if you're like you're in something, you're like, but what about this, you know? So, you just I just trample over you. Um, let me show you this, though. Uh, this is every single episode split by Oh, hold on here. This is every single episode split by speaker. So, the orange is going to be me and the purple is going to be Scott. And then the gray is just other people talking. So, you can see some of the some of the episodes here. This gray one, this is when we had Tim and Jim on from from Nex.js. They talked most of that episode, right? But you can't even you can hardly see Scott in a purple here. Whereas you go to like episode 977, which is we built a CSS challenge platform. That one's almost entirely almost entirely Scott. But it's kind of fun to like scroll through. Wow, you really picked the best colors for this. Yeah, this is maybe not a good idea. Um I'm like tripping uh trying to trying to see everything. Yeah, you're right. Maybe I should um switch this up but make it a little bit different. Some of the older episodes don't don't show exactly right. Although there's we need to redo the transcripts on this. There's there's much better tech to build transcripts than what we used a couple years ago. Yeah, there is so funny because there's some episodes especially like the nextJS one where like uh I almost don't even know what to ask just because I don't use it as much. So I the questions I can ask are going to be more like vibe based like how do you feel about this? You know, what are your Yeah. uh where you can get into the more technical nitty-gritty. That's that's the thing is like I I I know about uh like like Webpack comments like magic comments which Tim didn't even know about and he's the one building turbo pack you know and yeah uh I never even used Webpack so no lucky. Yes. Um that's a lot of words though. Wait, did you just say did you see two million words or something from Yeah, let's look at it here. So out of 77 771 episodes which we have transcribed that is 5,700,000 words um 113,000 utterances which is kind of like two two or three sentences kind of put together that Scott and I going back and forth. Uh 10,480 topics which is those are just from the show notes. Those are markdown reaxed out of there. uh 7,493 average words an episode. Longest episode an hour and 45 minutes, which is our 300th um episode we did live. And then we've said sick 1,200 times. Dope is only said 19 times, which I don't believe. I don't believe you say dope a lot more than that. One second. I probably said it 19 times today. Oh man. people. Sorry, people on live stream are saying it's laggy um in the chat. Sorry, the Riverside. Come on now. It's being a little bit laggy. Oh well. Sorry, folks. I wonder if it gets any better if there's less uh talking heads at various points. I wonder. Yeah, I switched to just the screen share and that might have helped. Also, people can't see that our voices are out of sync, so they won't talk about it. But I will mention CJ is rising in trending words. Um yes, I guess you you guys mention me all the time. So what we did here is I took the first half of the transcripts and then the second half of the transcripts and we looked at words that were trending. Basically words that show up and CJ is up 433 or sorry 4,000%. Nice. Love to see that rise. Yeah. MCP is the biggest jump in word use. Claude, Kulifi, Biome, LLM, Hano, Embedding, JSR. That's not surprising actually. Anthropic, Transformers, Sega. Yeah, that whole episode of Sega Sega. Sega Sega. Sega. Oh, and then words that we do not most of the declining words were just past sponsors. Um, and then since we joined Sentry, we no longer have to do sponsors, which is the best. Um, so that's why you don't see these words like French fresh books and lenode anymore. But, uh, scrubbable. Scrubable. Oh, that that was probably from one of the ad reads, I think. Oh, Apollo's interesting. Apollo. Yeah, Apollo. Uh, folks, Apollo GraphQL Apollo. Oh, yeah. Wow. Down up from 211 to 28 instances. Talinski. to beginner jam stack. Oh, jam stack from 70 down to 13. It's about to trend back upwards now just by saying it a couple times here. Yeah, jamstack. Jamstack. Jamstack. It's a sign of the times though. Yeah, it is a sign of the times. I think I even that. Yeah, that I'm surprised to see GraphQL isn't on there as a word too, even though we do have um Apollo there. Uh top words by speaker. I was extremely surprised at the number one word and the number two word for Scott for me and Scott was rid of rid and and I looked into it and it's it's legit, right? I can open this up in a tab and you can see our usage of rid. Why? Whoa. What of is that one episode with 125 occurrences? Wow. Oh, no. Sorry, not episode. This is month. Monthly. Oh, month. Okay. 125 times in a month. Why did we say rid? That must have been in a sponsor. Or maybe that was when Scott tacked something on to the end of the episode. That That makes sense. Maybe that was in like the outro. Yeah, that's actually very interesting. It could be in the outro. Little. We both say little. I say little is most used word. Note says Yeah. Why does Scott say Wes and Wes says Wes? Wes says I have a feeling I I know why. Honestly, it might be a trans trans like a a speaker detection error. I don't know cuz do you ever say your own name? I often use my own name in examples. Um so like I'll say like if I'm going to westboss.com or um I also the shameless plugs I often will have say my own. So, oh, that's probably it because in the shameless plugs, I always say westboss.com and Scott would have said like level up tuts. Yes. Yes. Syntax next. I don't know if syntax more. I say that's a good question. Two 20. Whoa. Yes, I say syntax more. Scott says syntax 265 times more. It's number 13 for Scott and number 33 for me, which just goes to show either I talk more or have a bigger vocabulary. That's actually not true. I have the biggest vocabulary of anyone on the show and I'll fight you for that. Actually, I do believe that. So maybe maybe let's jump into this for a second. I built an app that did super cuts of like common phrases that were said over and over again. And I found tons of them for CJ and I like like just like tropes that we say over and over again like under the hood we say over and over again. And for CJ and I we we found tons. And for Scott, I had a hard time finding the same thing that Scott says over and over again. So I Randy has these videos queued up. You wanna Should we play them now, Scott? Yeah. Okay. I guess I got to stop sharing my screen. Eh, which one would you like first? Um, let's start with CJ's. I didn't even see you guys tweeted this out, but yeah, I haven't seen it yet. This is not even the tweet one. I the tweet. Yeah. Go. This is a fresh one. As you can I just see a preview of it. As you can see. Okay. Here we go. You can see. As you can see. As you can see. As you can see. As you can see. As you can see. As you can see. As you can see. As you can see. As you can see. As you can see, as you can see, as you can see, as you can see, as you can see, as you can see, as you can see, as you can see, as you can see. Yeah, as you can see. As you can see, that was really good. There was there was a couple other ones that were predominantly CJ. Um, I'll see if I can find them, but all the poor audio listeners are listening to this. Like, I don't see a thing. Oh, yeah. there was well they're here audio listeners that was a super cut of all the clips so I took the transcripts and we have word level detection and I I downloaded the last 150 um episode or YouTube videos not not just podcast episodes this was separate and then I I used the new XAI transcript API because we've been using deepgram gram for all of our stuff but this is like three times cheaper I transcribed 150 of our YouTube videos for 50ents Um, and then I just I ran some scripts on it to figure out what were like common phrases. And then I built this like ffmpeg thing that would take the timestamps and then make a super cut of every time we said a specific word like as you can see. And then I put it all into one video which is the results were hilarious to to output. Um, Scott, do you know what yours your most commonly said thing? I I don't know because I uh I'm I'm looking at my fiveword phrases on here and it's like all the stuff that is in the bumpers. So, yeah. Yeah. If it's not the bumpers, it's not bumper stuff. I had to exclude a lot of that. I I did run it it on like commonly said fiveword phrases, but there it wasn't nothing good came out of that. So I I ended up just manually looking for them. I couldn't tell you. No. Right. No idea. Let us have it, Randy. The React sucks. No. Which Which one is this, Wes? This is the uh the one that says dash Scott in the end. I can listen. Okay. Gonna Okay. We're going to be talking about We're going to be talking about We're going to be talking about We're going to be talking about We're going to be talking about We're going to be talking about going to be talking about We're going to be talking about Wow. Accurate. Very accurate. Can I just say my style is on point? Uh I look my style be styling in that those clips. Yeah. Quite honestly, the the fun part about these um super cuts was I was like, "Oh, that shirt was cool. I should find that one or I like that one. Yeah, your hair looks good in all of those. Scott, I'm actually shocked. Yes, I think it'd be cool to to build this, but do facial detection on the video and like line like eyes up or something. Oh god, wouldn't that be sick or or creepy? Yeah, that would be creepy. I don't know why that creeps me out for some reason. That creeps me out. I don't get it. Yeah. I don't like those videos where they have the camera and it's like aligned to someone's eyes and their like backgrounds moving around. Oh, yeah. Moving around. That Oh, thank you. I think that's a Da Vinci feature, isn't it? I don't know. Do you guys have any stats on who how many times each of you have done the intro? Oh, that's a good question. That's a good question. I don't. Okay. I What What would you guess, Scott? Like, who intros the podcast? I think I intro more. You think you do? Yeah, I would probably say like 60% Scott. And but we we tr usually when we record like two in a day, we try to like generally just kind of split it. Um but if it's if it's an episode where one of us has like done like a deep dive on something, generally that person intros it because we understand it more. Um, and then the potluckss I generally we one thing we started doing in the potluck episodes which if you've never listened to one it's it's where we bring listener questions in and we answer them. We've started doing the intro at the end so that we can tell people kind of what's what's upcoming and that has really helped um like retention that people are like oh I want to learn about XY and Z. I'm going to keep listening to this one because now then you have an idea of what's included in this podcast. Yeah, man. This is really fascinating to see all these all these words. And then mine I I know what mine is, but you can play it, Randy. All right, here it is. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Not not sure. Slower than cursor. I'm not not sure. Oh, I'm not sure. Oh, those are great. I honestly wish I could just do an hour. I brought I have like a hundred of these different videos. The the one where we say AI is four and a half minutes long. AI. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's just like the words lose all their their uh meaning after that. that welcome one specifically when I was hearing the welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, it's like, oh my gosh, that word uh has completely transformed. It I did the Tanstack one and it's just like it's like saying the word fork or spoon a hund times. It just it loses all meaning. Totally cool. Do we want to talk about uh so we we've gotten to some of the words. Um what do we want to hit next? Do we want to hit the uh how many minutes of syntax has there been? How many minutes has there been? Do we have that? Yeah, we have that listed here as a Oh, I don't know if I have that. Sorry, I don't know if I don't think I have that stat here. Hold on. Let me I can type it into the box. I could type it into the box. Please, AI, tell me. Uh, okay. Well, while we're doing that, uh, West you look up some of this stuff, I want to I'll I'll tell a little story. I'll tell a story if you uh Yeah. So, a lot of people don't know that uh and we'll talk about this in the the Google doc. We we created our first Google doc kind of outlining the show April 1st, 2016, as Caitlyn mentioned. And we didn't actually record the first episode of Syntax until June 27th, 2017. Well, we recorded before then, but recorded like four episodes so that way we could have a bunch ready to go. But in between that time, uh, I I was struggling to make LevelUp tutorials work on YouTube, uh, as a as a both a business, but also YouTube was cutting ad revenue. And because of that, I had to take a job at a startup here in Denver. It was a threeperson startup. I was building the app basically myself. It was a good idea. And I was just like crushing it, working hard to, you know, all of a sudden I'm I'm doing content full-time and now all of a sudden I'm building an app full-time. And that project had been going on for like I want to say like six, seven months. But the work culture there. Yeah. Six, seven. Yes. I even kind of did it by accident. Oh my gosh. It's built into Yeah, man. and the work culture there had been getting worse and worse and worse and they they I don't know if they were running out of money or something. It's not like they were spending that much money anyways and I just kept getting like maybe more uh pressure on me to what was initially I was building a prototype of a software for them to sell to investors. That was the gig, right? But that started drifting into oh this isn't a prototype anymore. this is the app and why isn't it done yet? Uh, well, it's working as a prototype. You guys didn't uphold your end of the bargain. So, it just became like an increasingly toxic work environment to the point where they were like super rude and all kinds of stuff. But, uh, my son was born at the end of May. My very first child was born at the end of May of 2017. And, uh, we had the podcast idea. My son was born and the weekend of the birth of my first child, a Sunday night, this is grained in my memory forever. A Sunday night at 8:00 p.m. 8:00 p.m. on Sunday night, I'm getting blown up on my phone like with toxic harassing messages about a broken feature in pre-alpha software that had no users. And I uh I I it was that Sunday and then Monday I'm driving my parents back to because my parents were in town. I'm driving them back uh to the airport and I'm just like I think I'm going to quit this job and like I didn't have a job. I I had a YouTube account but YouTube was like not paying very much at that point in time. And like man it was like have you ever I don't know like that the amount of stress that gets involved in that decision because it's like you just had a child and like what you're gonna quit your job. Uh so I seriously I I that day I quit my job. Uh I told him I wasn't going to do it and the uh co-founder of the company was like I get it. You're not treated very well. Uh and so I was like yeah all right I'm out. And then at that point, I think it was like literally I sat down with my thoughts and was like, I need to do something. And uh I don't I don't want to take credit for uh pushing Wes to go forward with this, but at that point, I like really needed to do something. And we had kind of off and on talking about getting this going. And so at that point, I was like, we need to do this podcast. Uh Wes agreed. We recorded four episodes, released on June 27th. Rest is history. The rest is history. Yes. I I'll give you credit for that because like I I love I love talking about doing things, but like sometimes you just need a kick in the pants to actually get going and I'm glad we did it because like you said, we've been we were doing it for quite a while. And let me Should we share the original dock of of our brainstorming? I think it's kind of funny. Yeah, let's do that. Let's take a look. We got the window Yeah, we'll get into into this later, but um uh AA Liil in the chat says uh did Sentry get involved early in the past early in the podcast or did it happen years later? Um I think we'll uh we'll we'll touch on that in a second. Yeah. Well, let's do it right now. Sentry was classic West right there. We'll do it live. Sentry was always a sponsor of of syntax and from from very early on they actually had uh approached me for one of my courses probably over 10 years ago and say hey if we want to do you want to do anything together let me know and then they they I was like oh you want to sponsor our podcast so they sponsored that and they from like the very first days they said give us as many episodes as you can and it was amazing right? Like and they said it was one of the only sponsorships that they ever saw like like good ROI on or or or positive ROI on. A lot a lot of times people sponsor podcasts and it's just because of of word of mouth, right? They're not actually making more money than they spend sponsoring the podcast, but they was a really good relationship. And then around episode 600, um Sentry contacted us and said, "Hey, do you want to just join Sentry? you can keep doing your thing, but make this make this even bigger. You don't have to take sponsorships on and it's been been fantastic. So, we owe Sentry quite a bit for how good the Syntax podcast is today. Yeah, I think if it was anybody else, it would have been a tough sell for us to join a company like that, but because we had that working relationship with Century and we've uh known the folks over there for so long and just a high quality team of people. So yeah, somebody in the chat asked for a 67 compilation. So I had to run it. Um, can you Did you guys hear that? 67 mistake of using CJ, why do you say 67 so much? That's I I'm not even doing it on purpose. That's what I've realized after discovering the meme. Like we say it all the time. Yeah. Six, seven years, six, seven hours, six, seven minutes. Like, it's so funny. We've said 67 times in the last 150 videos. That's my kids are so over 67, which makes it so much funnier to say now. Like, yeah, so much funnier. Watching a YouTube video about memes and kids are like, "Oh, 67 is so old." Like, that's not funny. Um, put it in the chat. What What else did we say? because I could I got the script. I can I can make a super cut of anything. So, if there's anything you want to see if if we can pull up, we can do it. Um, but let's look at the the original doc from what this is over 10 years ago. Oh, dead nuts is a good one. Yeah, I'll do that. Um, but this was Scott and I's a thing. Writing markdown in Google Docs, right? Because there was nothing that premark weekly is a big commitment. I'd love the prep to be minimal. uh to get where we can make a thousand commitment. I'd love to get a point where we can make a thousand $2,000 per show. We were making a lot more than that when we stopped sponsors, which is great. Uh good examples. Uh Shop Talk Show is on here. Fizzle, Sean Wes, things like we both really liked Yay Query. Uh which yes, I don't know if that's on here, but we liked how fun it was. I think that was one of the big things for us was like it has to be fun. It has to be that that style. Yeah. Has to be fun, entertaining, silly. Yayquery was a podcast by what? Paul Irish, Alex Texton, Rebecca Murphy, and um Adam Santag. And they were all big people in like the early JavaScript scene. Um and I love that podcast just because like they would share little tips. They had this like um Paul Irish had this thing called the uh anti-performance tip of the week, which is basically like little things that could make your jQuery app slow. And I love that little segment, you know, little nuggets that you could take Yeah. out of out of that episode. And I I was really sad when they like stopped doing that. And I was like, we should build up like a the modern version of YQuery because it's they're just silly and it's entertaining and and you learn a lot from it. That was the first podcast that I was really into. Like the very first one. Yeah. Uh things that we hate about podcasts. I actually thought we connected a lot on stuff that we didn't want it to be. I know that there's just these two things. Too long and rambly inside joke titles that don't lead you in. I think there was so many more things that we initially talked about as being stuff that we don't like about podcasts. And to me, that fact that we had such similar tastes uh in in what we didn't like about other shows was something that led me to like be like, "Oh, this is a good idea." You know? Yeah. Exactly. So, if for those who don't know, Scott and I were part of a what's called a mastermind where it was uh four guys who just like sold webdev courses and we would meet up like every other week and just kind of talk about the business. Um, and then Scott and I just like like we love good like we loved each other, right? We we just like got along well and like we had really good back and forth and I thought like, okay, this is like somebody who I could do a podcast with. Um, and then when we started talking about what we hated, like long and rambly podcasts and inside jokes that don't lead you to things, we're like, "Oh man, we're we're all on the same page here." Um, the names. I thought this was hilarious looking at all the names. Um, I initially had the domain Boss Sauce and I was going to start my own podcast which I'm glad I did not make call it boss. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I the code code in code are such like funny like I don't I don't know if you were you you had band and stuff. When I had a band, I remember some of the worst names that we came up with were of probably the same style as Code Code C code. Like I don't know what it is about those that just like hits me in that spot. Like the Fun Dev Show. Uh some of these things are so funny. I I think Web Sauce works, Block Scopes works. Um I think those are the only one is probably the only good one on this list. I think so, too. I don't the rest of the team. Do you see anything on here that was good? And what's actually interesting is that syntax was not on this list. The initial was at 100 p.m. And then it was not till 3 hours later that the word syntax got added by Oh, looks like Scott added it. What did I add? Was it you that came up with the idea of syntax? Can we give me credit for that? I'll take credit for that. Oh, what? I I think the the literature shows Oh, yeah. Async syntax cast. Yes, I think all the best ones on here. Yes, async and is good. Well, Wes did come up with all the branding, so I can I can at least take credit for uh that part. Hey, I didn't know that. I'm gonna I'm gonna ride on that now. Creator of the syntaxed word brand. Exactly. It's I'm glad that we can go back 10 years in Google Docs history and see who typed that in. That's actually crazy. Yeah. The bout of inspiration at 3:58 p.m. on April 1st. To jump forward a quick a quick uh call out from Internet Doggo, they did a calculation. So, total length calc 2,679,834 seconds for all episodes. 31 days worth of podcasts you guys have done. 31 days. That's 31 days. A whole dang month. That's insane. Yeah. 19 work weeks of full-time listening at 1x. That's actually crazy because I've met multiple people who have said I've listened to every single episode, you know, like there's there's hundreds of people every time we have Spotify wrapped, you see people who have numbers that are larger than the amount of content we put out in a single year. And and there are people and also we I I met somebody like like a couple weeks ago and they're like, I started listening to your podcast and I started at one. And I was like, no, let's start at one. Like that's 10 years old. Like that is not good to be listening to like us talk about 10-year-old React best patterns. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know that. What else is on here? Episode ideas. What's new in CSS? Man, we 10 years later, we still just did that. We did that episode last week. We just did that episode. Yeah. Uh if it works. Yeah. Yeah. What's funny is the taskr runners episode where it's gulp, grunt, webpack, and npm scripts. Like all of that tech, like yes, npm scripts is the only one that survived, but man, I remember gulp. Everything was gulp for me. Gulp was the best. Uh, computer hardware, Hackintosh. Yeah, we talked about Hackintoshes a lot in the early days before like the M chips killed the Hackintosh. I've ran a Hackintosh as my main system for a long time. Yeah, you can see it as a character in many of the level up tutorials videos. Uh, JavaScript frameworks one. I feel like we ended up doing all of these things. Notice how I added the uh health encoding lifestyle issues like posture is fixing pelvic. Well, I always was always pushing to do the health and fitness episodes. So, that's funny that I added that. Let's see what else you added on the next day. Oh, you added site performance the next day and then a couple hours later, what did you add? Get cracking. You came like a day later. Oh, I got an idea here. Get cracking in here. Let me add get cracking on here. This is what this All right, let's see what I added a month later. Oh, that's when I came up with the the logo. Oh, which is just Oh, that that's not the password anymore. That was that used to be the old We used to keep our password in the Google. Okay, for the podcast listeners, I love to make syntax podcast was the password. Is that what it was? Yeah, that man, come on. Oh, that's hilarious. Uh, there was no one password back then, CJ. That uh And it was just No, you definitely should not have been doing that. The password was password. Yes. Yeah, that is. And then this is where we started adding in um Oh, this is where we started like doing the different episodes. CSS. Great. Me adding Meteor as the only thing here is pretty on brand. God, camera access, podcast layout. Yeah, there's some fun stuff in there. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I love this doc. I I actually I love popping open this doc. I got dead nuts. You guys ready? Ready for dead nuts. Dead nuts. I'm surprised I say it as much as Wes. Wes is probably said it more frequently than me. That's great. Hey, so Wes, we want to let uh to improve the lag on the stream, we want to uh let uh Nikki, Caitlyn, and Randy go. But first, I wanted to talk with Caitlyn a little bit as the first person to join the team. Uh, I think there's a funny story there, especially around when when uh the Sentry acquisition happened. So, Caitlyn, how long had you been working with me at Level Up? Was it a year and a half, two years? I feel like it was probably like two years. I know. It's Gosh, it's so hard to remember, right? I think it was about two years. I think you and I started doing stuff with Level Up around the end of 2021. Yeah. And then so 2024, kind of early 2024 was when everything was going on with the century. Yeah. Yeah. So I I'm I first met Caitlyn. She was working at Galvaniz, which was a is was I don't know if they're Are they still around CJ? They're still hanging in. Yeah. Yeah. Like online only or something cuz I work too. But yeah. Yeah. That's why I was asking CJ, too. Yeah. Caitlin and CJ both did work at Galvanize at one point, but they had a uh I I had done some um events with them before where I had like uh been brought in to speak at uh things. But Kayla, you had worked there for I don't know how long did you work there? Like a year and a half. It was during like co so it was a little rough. But it's interesting. So you guys started I'm going to go back a little bit further for a second because you guys started talking about this 2016. You got your first episode out 2017, but you guys didn't meet in person till 2018, right? And that was at Was that not at the Jamstack Conf? It was in SF. Not in there. Yeah. Miss Scott and I had never met after almost three years of doing stuff together. Yeah. And people had thought we were in the same room because we didn't do video and people just thought we were in the same room recording. I was like, "No, actually I've never met him before." that's so funny. Okay, so yeah, I'd like been exposed to Scott and I mean just the syntax or at like whole podcast for a while, but then at Galvanize I was like I need to get someone on to talk about imposter syndrome and it'd be really great to have somebody that's local in Denver. Um we have that live video somewhere, Scott, we got to pull that up and like look at that sometime. But that's how you and I started getting connected just like through events for Galvanize. Um, and then yeah, it kind of slid into your DMs and was like, "Hey, you need help with Level Up?" Yeah. You were like, "Do you know anybody that that's what you you asked me, do you know anybody that needs a marketing manager?" Because you were just doing outreach, right? Like you were just trying to got laid off 2020 from Galvin. Yeah. 2021. And it was it was such perfect timing cuz I was I was just, you know, lamenting uh to my wife over and over again about how I needed that position. I cannot like continue to do everything myself. And then it's like I got that message from you like hey do you know anyone like hey you're like actually let's talk. Yeah actually let's talk. Uh so we started working together. You became a a full-time employee of Level Up. Um and from from there you know you had been joining me on live streams uh handling emails Black Friday all this stuff. And this whole time uh that the the century and syntax conversation was going on, I couldn't we were under NDA. I couldn't tell Caitlyn. So we were undergoing a massive site redesign at the time. Caitlyn's working on all this marketing plans and and I have to just kind of be like, "Yeah, let you know the future plans for this knowing that level up and Syntax would most likely be joining Sentry." But I couldn't tell her. And then we basically get the final offer in and it's like all right we are signing this offer and then I can tell Caitlyn but she has to basically decide in 24 hours if she wants to join a new company uh with Wes who she had never you never met Wes right now. No. Yeah. So, it was like how what was that like to just get that message out of the blue? Like I mean it was funky, right? Cuz I like you were you didn't never said anything. You didn't like bust your NDA, but you were definitely kind of like I could feel like things were changing, you know, and you were stressed and like the energy was different and I was sure I was getting fired. Like what else could it be, right? Oh, yeah. Cuz I was like, "Hey, do you do you have time to chat like an emergency?" It was like out outside of normal business hours and you're like, "Hey, do you have like a minute to chat right now?" And I'm like, "Okay, great." Yeah. And this is like right when I moved into that Colorado cabin. Like we just put all our stuff in storage. Life was already a little uncertain. So I was like, "Great. Okay, guess I'm getting fired now." So it wasn't bad. It was actually great news. I had never actually heard of Sentry cuz I'm in marketing, you know? So I was just like, "Who is Sentry?" you're like, "Okay, they're they're actually a really really great company. Like, you're you're going to like it. Like, I hope you accept like and you're reading me all the benefits." Gave my partners like listening to this call cuz he also like he knew I thought I was going to get fired. So, he's like over there. He's a dove. Yeah. And so, he's like he knows Sentry, loves Sentry, uses Sentry. And so, he's over he's like hearing about it and he's like, you know, in the background like, "Yeah, this is a good thing." And I just come to him like, "I don't know. I guess I have a new job and I'm a part of syntax now and yeah, I mean Gab's been a fan of syntax for forever. So he's just I mean he fang girlled when I joined level tutorials. He fang girlled even harder when I was able to join the syntax team. So that's great. Yeah. Kind of a wild ride but like yeah it was it's been fun and I appreciate you pulling me into this. It's just been cool and you guys are just so good at this. You should be so proud that you know you reached a thousand episodes and everyone loves you and you've just built something really really cool. Yeah. So, uh Caitlin, we'll let you drop. And Nikki, thank you so much for joining us, too. Um as the the newest member of the team, we're so happy to have you. So, thank you so much for joining us. And then, uh Randy, even though you're the producer, we'll have you drop. I'm dropping. I'll still be here, but I'm dropping. Hey, guys. Thank you so much. He's going back behind the scenes where he belongs. It's like a a kind of laugh. You got a kind of laugh. Turn the knobs. Oh. Oh, that's great. All right. What else we got here? We do. We want to do the old intros. Do we want to talk about what the top episodes of all time were? So there uh this actually leads into a question that someone had um about where would be what would be a good place to start. So this is from Think Verse. What would be a good starting point for new listeners? The latest episode in episodes back start of the year. I I would imagine that like best episodes of all time are probably some that they should tune into. Yeah, this is this is a hard problem that Spotify is unfortunately not um helping anybody with. You know, like most people are listening to podcasts on Spotify right now. And this is something we're trying to solve with the new website as well is just collections of of a podcast like I'm new here. What should I listen to? Um, search the fundament or search fundamentals. Those are some of our top episodes and we go through every single We have one on JavaScript, one on TypeScript, one on CSS, one on HTML. We I don't know, we probably have 10 different fundamentals episodes where we just break everything down and explain it right down. um, Dead Nuts, right? And those are those are probably like the best timeless ones that are are not like, oh, don't listen to a six-year-old React episode because that's that's not necessary. Um, things have changed since then. Yeah, I I thought that one of our most popular episodes was the the Josh Wardle episode on the creator of Wordle. I thought that was a great episode. Even that was really fun. Um, let's give some context on on that. Sorry. Go ahead. Yes. No, no, I was like I thought it was fascinating to hear that this like you could just make something and have it pop off to that degree and just how fun that whole thing was with him. So that was a I think that's a good episode. Um but yeah, so Wordle. Yeah, it was a crazy story because like when Wordle was released, it was this game during the pandemic that absolutely blew up and I didn't hear about it when it was blowing up. And I got an email from this guy being like, "Hey, I made this game that's getting really popular." And I was like, like cool, congrats. Like that's I He's like, I I listen to I didn't brush him off, but he's like, I listen to Syntax. I learned to code from you guys and I made this game that got really popular called Wordle. And I the like I like read it. I was like, "Oh, that's really cool. I'll reply in the in the morning." And then like I think I forget who it was. It was my parents or or or my wife or something. Everybody started talking about Wordle and I was like, "Was that the same guy that emailed me?" And so I looked it up. I was like, "Holy [ __ ] this guy emailed me." And like the New York Times just bought it. So I messaged him back and I was like, "Dude, this is sick. Come on and explain to us how you built Wordle." Um, and he came on and that was what that is our one, two, three, fourth most popular episode ever. Our stats are a little bit skewed because we moved from Libson to megaphone Spotify at one point, but if we're looking at all of our episodes from like seven 800 episodes back, uh the Josh Wle episode was number four or five. Four. Yeah, that was a good one. The number one episode is JavaScript Fundamentals. Uh, number two is how to get better at problem solving, which I really like that one. Third one, the fundamental server side. That one is really popular. And then the sixth one, design foundations for developers. rollers in the uh Twitch chat says uh start with the Halloween episodes. Oh, the Halloween episodes. So, I don't when was the very first Halloween episode? So, I don't remember when we came up with this idea, but we had the idea to make spooky webdev stories for Halloween. Um, and it has in turn every single year. I I look forward to these every single year. There are so there are so many of them now. 2019 was our first episode. If you go to syntax.fm/spooky, we'll have a a submission form and a list of all of our past episodes. And these are just like tech horror stories of when things went wrong. Yeah. So the 2019 was the first year we did that. I can't imagine the show without that episode. Honestly, that to me I I remember the very uh syntax longtime Syntax listeners will know this. the very first time that we did a spooky stories episode, I was doing my Dracula voice for the whole episode and halfway through the west the episode, Wes because these weren't live or whatever, Wes like stops and he's just like, "You're not going to do that voice the whole episode, are you?" Like he was like maybe the one of the more serious times I've ever had Wes have a a a conversation with me. Yeah. Like this is driving me nuts. Uh but the fans loved it. People love the spooky voice. The spooky. Yeah, the episodes are like timeless, too, cuz it's just people having tech problems and like it doesn't matter if it's old React or whatever. It's about the drama of the story of like are you going to get fired? Did you drop a production database? That kind of thing. So, those are super entertaining and some of the older ones are are the best as well because like 10 years ago like people were doing FTP, they were sshing into boxes. We didn't have the like the deployment streams that we have now. And a lot of it was just like people trying not to goof up and then accidentally dropping a database or or shipping the wrong code or the wrong environmental variable. And that that that kind of stuff definitely happens especially with all vibe coding. But the some of the older ones are are some of the best. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. And the latest one I got to make a song for it. Who knows? Maybe I'll make a song again this year. I would love to make more songs out. That was actually so fun. CJ, do you want to guess what our top countries are by listenership if if you didn't look at the notes? I didn't look at the notes, but I have a guess based on like YouTube stats. Um, like I would say US is probably number one. Yeah, 42%. Um, India is always pretty high up. Are they too? India is not on the podcast charts, but for my YouTube and for my own course, India is for the free ones, India's number one. And then the paid ones, India is usually like four or five. It's it's usually up there. A lot of lot of people in India. There Germany should be pretty high, too, right? Yeah. Germany number four. And UK. UK number two. Okay. So, who's number three? Uh the creators of this podcast, this is a Dutch. It's a No, it's a Canadian podcast. They they speak English in Canada. Yeah. Eight. Something like that. Yeah. This is a Canadian podcast, by the way. I Well, it's funny because when I joined I I like leveled the playing field because it was like you and Randy were Canada. Now me and Scott are Colorado. It's a Colorado podcast. Scott is mostly Canadian though. He's like honorary, you know. I Yeah, there I mean there's there's many opportunities my my you know I have I have Canadian heritage but also no I am I am American and and actually at one point Wes three of the people on this podcast uh or in this team we're living in Colorado so true yeah it's a Rocky Mountain podcast. it's a Mile High podcast. This was part of the like when I got the job, I I put these Canada and Colorado stickers on the the syntax. exactly. I'm glad you left the Canada one on for that. We have the Syntax Canada sticker somewhere. I don't know where exactly it I might even have one on my computer. I got If you're watching If you're watching in the chat, let us know where you're tuning in from because I see I see um uh Gabri the Batha from South Africa. Uh Bumlucas from Germany. Uh, we've got some people watching in India, Sweden, Turkey, Argentina, Canada. Good. Canada, Quebec. You two faces, but close enough. These guys are Canadian. One person on this call is Canadian currently. Close enough. Close enough. But here, let me let telling stories about like being recognized in public. I many times I've I've met people like at the mall or on the street or whatever just walking around. Um you just say like, "Oh, hey, are you are you Wes? I listen to Syntax." And uh probably about four or five years ago, this is before we were doing video, so a lot of people didn't even know like what I look like because they simply just are audio listeners. And it was Christmas day. We were at the park and I was just like yelling like not yelling at my kids but yelling to my kids like hey like go down the slide and someone from across the park was like that's Wes's voice you know and like I have it at conferences all the time where people go you're in line and you're talking to somebody and somebody will just go I know that voice you know cuz your voice does carry you we were at the internet event at the Golden State at the Chase Center and uh the people were speaking and somebody had to come out and be like, "Can you be quiet? Wes Wes was outside of the venue and uh he was so loud that they was interrupting the stage." Yeah, my voice definitely carries. But this was at the park on Christmas day and some guy from across the park like was like, "That's Wes." And he like went over and like, "Hey, I listen to the podcast." Which is just crazy to think that somebody can recognize you from your voice. And I I don't even feel like I have a a very unique voice. I So, Wes, I've the the uh two of the times that I've been recognized in public have been because of my voice. One was at the zoo and it was like nighttime so nobody could see me anyways. And some guy was like, "Whoa, are you Scott?" And I was there with my family and I was like, "Oh, hey." He's like, "I just heard your voice." And then another time I was on the chairlift. I got my goggles on. I got my face mask on and I'm just talking with some random guy on the chairlift and he was like, "Hold on. Is your name Scott by any chance?" I was just like, "Yeah." He's like, "I listen to Syntax." What? This is crazy. Uh, nice. Wild. Yeah. Trivia. What was the first Syntax sponsor ever? Are you asking me? Because I know. Oh, you know. Okay. Well, I don't think CJ would know. No, I'm not not uh Delicious Brains has a a WordPress plugin called WP Migrate DB Pro, which at the time I was like a like a fairly heavy um I maybe like previously that I was doing a lot of consulting and doing like WordPress um and I had used that product quite a bit and he just randomly emailed me. He's like, "Hey, um can we sponsor?" And at the time I didn't even think we could could get sponsors on it and we're like, "Yeah, hell yeah. Come on." So that was the the very first one. Yeah. So Fresh Books was pretty early on there as well as a sponsor. Um and Sentry came on pretty early as well. Uh Delicious Brains sponsored the fourth episode. And the reason why that's significant is because when Wes and I first recorded, we recorded three episodes in a batch that were like ready to go. So that way we would have like a couple weeks to put together more episodes. So the fourth episode is significant because that's the first episode that was or recorded after we had released one episode. So they were on it immediately which is that's pretty Yeah. very impressive because I think they also just like eyeballed it. I we learned very quickly after that there's people that have scripts that like watch iTunes charts at the time and then as soon as we spiked on the iTunes charts, we got tons of emails um from just like like random companies, you know, like like underwear and shaving and all that stuff. We never really took on any of those sponsors. We almost entirely were tech products except for some clothing companies. The Armory. The Armory in New York was like a high-end men's clothing company which is Was there any other sponsors that were not tech? I don't know. We were pretty selective about uh we could be selective about who we worked with. We didn't want uh things that either wouldn't be relevant or stuff we didn't actually like or believe in. Uh the audience is saying Fresh Books. Fresh Books was one of the very first sponsors as well. They also were quick to sponsor us. Someone asked when Syntax Conf is happening. Sorry. Go ahead. Oh. Oh, Henry just uh in the chat mentioned who edited the early episodes. Scott, I I did the music. I did the bumpers. I edited it. I was a music major, but I'm also I don't think they were very good. I It's so funny as I I went to school for music technology and audio engineering and stuff, but that was never like anything I was actually that good at. So, I I I did in Logic. And I think that was part of it, too, is I just like wasn't used to logic. So, I was just hacking my way through logic. I still have all those files, which uh I'm a digital hoarder, so I probably should get rid of them. You know, one thing I deleted a couple years ago which I regret is I had the Zoom recordings from all of our early episodes really because we used to just record locally and clap and then but we use Zoom just to talk to each other. This was before like Riverside was even a thing. I don't remember using Zoom to do whatsoever. I don't remember Zoom for some reason. And I remember looking at them before I deleted them and I was like our we just had like crappy webcams and like was it was not very good at the time. No, I think I had a crappy You had a really nice setup from the early days. That's right. Yeah, because I was doing live streams with Level Up, so I had to um and I wasn't doing that many of them, but I was doing a weekly one with Caitlin or a monthly. I on that note, like I really upped my production quality when I joined Syntax. Like before I was I was even though I was a live streamer, I was just using webcams, like 4K webcams. But uh I literally like when I got the job, I had like a week to to prepare and I bought a like a Sony camera and a nice lens and I got my whole scene set up and everything. Did you get your Venusaur then or was it always there? That's a more recent edition like when the what within the past few months. What's a Venusaur? Uh Pokemon Venar. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, you you you called out that comment though, but when is the next meetup syntax comp? I think like it would be cool to do like a two-day thing like we do workshops for a day. All of us can teach something and then bring some of the speakers that have been on the podcast um to to speak at the conf. That'd be really cool. I would love to do that. We actually had a call like in 2019 about doing a syntax conference with Ben who runs he ran like Reactathon, Real World React. I think he's doing like AI conferences now and we were thinking about doing it but then COVID happened and like the whole conference scene just got decimated. So yeah, it would be pretty fun. We've done tons of meetups, right? And we've done probably 10 different syntax live shows. Those are always really fun. We did some in Colorado, some in we've done just some like just come to a bar and drink beer with us. And then we've done like live coding. So it would be fun to do like a full on conference. Let us know where in the world we should be doing this. Yeah. Well, we are going to be doing a syntax meetup in Amsterdam this summer. So yes, uh around the same time as um uh JS JS Nation that is on what's what's that date? June Thursday, June 11th 11. But the meet up will probably be on the 10th I think. Yeah. So if you're in Amsterdam for JS Nation or React Summit, uh keep an eye out for that because we will be there hanging out, doing a live show, all that stuff. Actually, the whole team's going to be there so you can meet everybody. And we tell you to get a syntax or get a ticket to JS Nation, but also our our party like our meetup is you don't have to have a ticket to the conference to get in. So, it's going to be sick. Yeah. But you should come to JS Nation. I'll be MCing. Wes is giving a a talk. Scott's giving a talk at React Summit, which is the next day. So, come hang out. I'm giving a talk at React Summit, folks. You're going to love to hear that. And uh I'm also I'm also MCing at JS Nation. Um, yeah. I I can't wait to speak at React Summit. I I uh I'm not going to be mean. I'm not going to say anything bad about React. Good. Uh, anything? I got a couple more super cuts here to play, but um before we do that, is there anything else we haven't covered here? How many guests have you had? You have a number? Oh, yeah. I know how many. Do you know how many, Scott? Oh, I have no idea. No, I have no idea. It's way more than I would have thought. Guess you just guess. Okay. 250 190. That you you over guess. You ruined it. Uh that's actually crazy that we've had 100 because in the early days we didn't do guests until episode 170ish. We had a couple people on here and there. Um, Sasha Grief was the first one. Courtland Allen from Indie Hackers and Sarah Sweden were our first three guests. Um, and then we started basically we like added a third show. We did a hasty treat, short one on a Monday. We did a tasty treat. It's like an hourong one on a Wednesday. And then we added a Friday episode which is kind of like an interview. Um, and man, I have loved this because you've you've gotten to meet like 200 of the like top dogs in our indust. You go to a conference, you get to see them and you know everybody. I when I was MCing JS Nation last year, it was like every single person I interviewed or introduced on stage was someone we had on the show. So, it felt so much better to interview them on stage. I, you know, had questions to ask and and things like that. It was just everybody so great. So, shout out to anyone who's ever been a guest on Citax. You all amazing for joining us for that. Uh, do you have the intro themes as well, Wes? The previous intro themes, the episodes Randy has them if he if he wants to play it for I think he's watching. Oh, yeah. Randy has the uh he at least has the the supper club theme, which I'm going to be honest, the supper club theme was always my least favorite of the three. Yeah, me mine as well. I I just have Okay, so for the audience listening, we used to have these sick intros um that were like radio monster truck DJ and we used to put them at the start of every episode. Um but unfortunately Tik Tok has ruined all of your brains and um you don't listen if you don't get like what is happening within the first like 12 seconds of a video, you turn it off. So we had to get rid of those. Also, people hated them, which is so funny. Yeah, that was like simultaneously that was so they were so divisive. Like people were were hearing a lot of get rid of them, they're cringey, and also we love them, don't get rid of them. It's It's actually funny to think about the like progression of content that we've done because we used to do like a 30 second intro and then we used to do how you doing, chitchat, what's going on in your life and that would be the first like 10 minutes of the podcast. Um, and I always I always really enjoyed that. I think people also enjoyed getting like a little peek into our lives as well. But the since things have moved more into like the algorithmic way like you can't have as much of that and we have to try to get into it as fast as possible. Yeah. Yeah. People also uh accused us of selling out when we got rid of them because it was that we got rid of them right when the Sentry uh acquisition happened. But that was just something we had been wanting to do for a while. That was just because we finally had somebody like Randy say, "Hey, can you turn those off?" Yeah. Uh, yeah, that'd be hilarious if it was in the Sentry contract. We're gonna purchase you, but you have to stop playing the intros. Yes. Yeah. All right, let me share. Or sorry, Randy, do you have the the first one that you can play? He is the supper club one. All right, play the supper club one. Scott's the least favorite. Hope you're hungry. Oh, I'm starving. Wash those hands, pull up a chair, and secure that feed bag because it's time to listen to Scott Tolinsky and Wes Boss attempt to use human language to converse with and pick the brains of other developers, ones way smarter than these guys. I thought there was going to be food. So, buckle up and grab that old kid handle because this ride is going to get wild. This is the Syntax Sucker Club. Oh, I I don't like it. Um, you know, I've never heard it, and I will say this, I have literally never heard that outside of when we first got it at 1x speed, at the normal speed. It usually felt like it went so much faster every time I listened to it. This time, it was just like, oh, this is so slow. Yeah. Yeah, it was a bit it was too long even at the time. Um, here is episode 56. I think this is one of the first ones where we had this intro. Let me play it. You're listening to the podcast with the tastiest web development out there. Strap yourself in and get ready and boss. Welcome to Nice. So, that one was just like a little intro. Do you guys like did you hire somebody specifically like the monster truck guy? That's like a real voice. This is before AI voices. This is a real guy, right? Yeah, there was like a they call them growlers in in radio and we went on Fiverr and found found a growler that would would make us one. And I think this one has the monster truck. Let's listen. You're listening to syntax. Oh no, that's not the one. Hold on. Okay, hold on. What is that? Uh those were Is that the hasty the That was the hasty one. I think you need to find a tasty syntax with the tastiest webvels. you're listening to Whoa. Where is the uh You're listening to We might have gotten it later. Hold on. Let's find it. Yeah, that that was like the very first early one. Let's go back to like 300 or something. CSS site is so fast. Oh, thank you. MONDAY. MONDAY. MONDAY. Open dev fans. Get ready to stuff YOUR FACE WITH JAVASCRIPT, CSS, NODE MODULES, BARBECUE TIPS, GIT WORKFLOWS, BREAK DANCING, soft skills, web development. The hastiest, the craziest, THE TASTIEST WEB DEVELOPMENT TREATS COMING IN HOT. HERE IS WES BARRACUDA B AND SCOTT EL TORO Loco Tolitinski. The Barracuda and the the El Toro Loco was hilarious. Yeah, I My favorite thing about that one was the airplane uh uh sound. Uh here I got my El Toro loco sh signed. Um shout out to Aerotype. Aerotype is a a a type foundry and um uh Stephen over there did this by hand for me. It was really cool. Did you guys come who came up with the El Toro loco and Barracuda? I did. I I remember messaging Scott being like, "We need something funny to call you." And uh I think I I forget how we came up with Barracuda and El Toro Loco. I think El Toro Loco came up because that like that's an actual monster truck. It's a monster truck. Yeah, that was great. What is I don't even know what these are. Let me play it. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Uh, do we have the My wife cut? The My Wife cut. My wife. The My Wife. Okay, let me bring the My Wife up. The My Wife cut. I I was losing it that I don't think there was Sorry. No. No. Continue. You You ready? I'm ready. My wife. My wife. My wife. My wife. My wife. My wife. My wife. My wife. My wife. My wife. My wife. My wife. My wife. My wife. My wife. wife. Wife. Wife. Wife. My wife. The best one is where you're just like my wife. And then Courtney's face while I'm saying that, she's just like, she's still, what are you saying right now? Why do I I'm holding a drill. Must have been a sick dick or something. Look at how disgusted she is with you. She's not so She's like, "Uh, what are you saying right now?" Uh, okay. Play that. She's not going to like that. You're hanging on that frame here. Oh man. Uh, what do we got here? Super cool. Pretty sick. Pretty nice. Neat. Pretty neat. Actions you could make. And it's pretty cool. Pretty cool. Pretty sick. Pretty cool. Pretty cool. Pretty nice. Pretty sick. Pretty cool. Pretty sweet. Pretty cool. Pretty cool. Neat. Neat. Pretty nifty. Pretty neat. Pretty slick. Pretty neat. Pretty neat. Neat. Super cool. Pretty cool. Pretty cool. Pretty neat. Neat. Oh my god, these are so ridiculous. Oh, the pizza one is good, too. Sorry, I'm just going to play these. Pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza insane how many times we've said pizza I guess we did the pizza video but we did a pizza video yeah that's so funny oh my god Man, I have so many of these and all I want to do is just download like other people's YouTube videos as well and make super cuts of of them. That's just so good. Oh, I got to do the AI one for a couple minutes. AI this. So I I had to limit it to I think 150, but I I ran it without a limit. It was four and a half minutes. And that's with every like fourth one. It tiles them. So it it tries to find um utterance or sorry words that are the same length and then it plays them over top of each other. Uh, which is you kind of hear them in harmony. I do like the harmony. That is very Uh, it's great. Okay. Well, Wes, we're we're coming up on an hour and 20ome minutes. Is there anything else you wanted to hit? Just I don't think so. I think thanks everybody for tuning in. This has been a wild thousand episodes. I can't believe that I get to do this as my job. super fun and uh like this wouldn't be anything without people who tune in every single week and leave comments and give us suggestions and tell us to stop using the stupid monster truck intro. Ah yes, thank you so much everybody. Sincerely, man. Uh and a thousand uh can't wait for episode 101. So I I think I'm just excited to do this podcast if not more excited to do it every single day than I was when we first started. So, I think that's testament to uh the joy it is to work with all of y'all. And um you know, CJ joining the team. It's been amazing to have you as a part of this group. And uh Wes, man, it it's uh I don't think I've ever once been like, I got to record a podcast with Wes today. It's like always just like a joy to hang out, you know, with your buddy talking about the stuff you love. So, shooting the [ __ ] about the web. I love it. Good stuff. Cool. Yeah. Thanks for thanks for hiring me. Thanks for having me, guys. This has been great. Here's to 10,000 more. More. All right. Peace.