Jueves de Quack con Nerdearla

[music] That 's the longest hello in the world. Hello, my people. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, wherever you are joining this broadcast from. Welcome to Quac Thursdays. We need to create a moment of disclosure for those who are lost, right? Spanish language transmission later. Hello, hello, hello. I hope you are doing well. Today I bring you a very special guest. I don't know if they suspect who it is. I came in my uniform, I put on my shirt, as they say. But before we begin with this great guest, I want to quickly share two things with you . In the pre-roll, well, the usual, you tell me where you're joining from, because I like the gossip here to be complete, right? In the pre-roll we saw an RSI event, for those who don't know, RSI is the Software Investigation of Argentina and one of our Ghub stars, Yayina, a great community leader, will be giving a session today about learning how to do code reviews. It's great, it's free, it's tonight at 6 pm, Buenos Aires time. So, go through the link, through the chat, and register. They simply need to register to receive the link and be able to access it. I think they're doing the broadcast through Luma, but take advantage because it's super cool. I have had the opportunity to spend time with Yanina. Yanina even came by to tell us about this great initiative when they started organizing and launching it. Hey, let's take advantage of this, my people, we have to take advantage because these spaces like this, with technically super talented people, free and in Spanish, don't come around every day. So, take advantage of that. Second, second disclaimer and we'll be right back with our guest for today. Remember we have a little project, we have a little project, we have a little project. We are in the area of ​​planning our community project, which we are all going to work on together. Uh, last week I sent you a link to a discussion, then I realized that I did n't share the link as a short one, so it was like a super long link. So, it doesn't matter if they didn't manage to capture him that day, but here he is at your service. We already had a suggestion from Sergio that I think is great. He suggested to us—and for those who weren't here last week when we discussed what this is—that we work on a project, and that we work on it like a company, but obviously, a great project that we do on a non-profit basis, that we do for open source, for the benefit of the community, and that helps improve the lives of all of us. No, we haven't discussed what it will be specifically. We're brainstorming right now, and that's the discussion. The link I sent you through the chat is the link for this discussion. So, if you have another idea, again, it doesn't have to be that we want to use Firebase or we want to use, well, anything because it's not a Ghof or Microsoft product, that doesn't matter. What we're going to do is apply open source technologies because here we use what we have. Now, if there are companies watching this broadcast with cool products, that want to give us a little bit of support, like railway companies, so they want to support us, we'll let them support us, but let's start with what we have access to and what we have credits to use. Uh, I thought Sergio's idea was super cool because there are many aggregators like the top 100 open source projects , the top 50, the top in each category. I even just set up my terminal, and it gives me a little list of the trending projects each day. But first of all, there's nothing in our language that I know of. If there is, you know, maybe share that project with us too, because that way we can contribute to an existing project. And that was the other idea as well: we're not necessarily going to create something from scratch. We can do a swarm, and we all go and improve a project or create our own new project. So, Sergio, thank you very much for this great idea. I loved it , I loved it. I left you a reply here with a couple of questions to see how we're thinking, but more or less with what you just told us would be a good idea to do. I think it could be a web app, we could even make it something that we could publish on the marketplace after Ghof. So there's the idea. Hm. If you haven't participated, contribute your ideas. Without sorrow, without sorrow, without sorrow. And well, let's get down to business. I'll stop by here for the other topic. First I'm going to change my little screen. Uh, this guest we have today I have had the pleasure of meeting on more than one occasion. He is one of the leaders of CIS Army Argentina. We're going to ask him what that is. I'm going to assume that you've never heard of Cisarme Argentina or nerdearla, and he's going to tell us everything. We need to give her a little bit of grace and moral support. He's in Cucon with Jetlo, but he came. Welcome, Jolo. Here I am. How are you, Andre? Thank you so much. Oh, thank you for accepting the invitation and I'm super excited because, well, we'll look at all the speakers and everything, but I'm going, I'm going. Yes, very happy. Well, you're one of the speakers. Thank you very much for sending the proposal. I was very happy when I found out that you had agreed to send the proposal and that it turned out great. Thanks also for being more styled than me. I think that's what I told her, I loved her. Yes. Uh, and well, you mentioned Yanni too, she's a genius. Take advantage, as Andre said, of the workshop or talk that's happening now at 6 pm Buenos Aires time, because as Andre said, content of that quality that's free and in Spanish isn't available every day. So a big hello to Shanni too. Brilliant. Okay, Holo, tell us, first of all, where did Sisar Army come from, when was it formed? And then we enter Nerdiarla and when we enter Nerdiarla, I'm going to share the screen so we can see the luxury of I think it already has some of the speakers, I don't know if they are all on the super page yet. Yes, yes, it's done, I think, 90% is complete. Uh, Cisarmi, Sisarmi, uh, it's a community, our slogan is support for those who provide support, because that's basically what it is, it's full of communities or spaces where one can discuss technical and great stuff, welcome. It's also one of those places, but mainly it's a place for support or containment, or a space for leisure to chat with people who share what you do, who understand what you do, but not necessarily to talk about work, no, that's not all we talk about, we don't just talk about pull requests, we don't just talk about CubeRnet, we don't just talk about Docker, we talk about life, about whatever , about working in systems, of course. Many times the conversation ends up going towards that because it's what unites us, but I always say, there are people who made friends, we have a chat that is about grown-up friends that Eduardo and Javier just gave at the Tecfest in Madrid. Some people have found partners, some people have married people they know from the community. Yes. So, there's a little bit of everything. It's a community, a group of people united by a love for technology, if you will, but it's a place to hang out and chat with people from the tech community. It was mainly born in Argentina and has spread throughout the world. I think that today Mexico is our chapter, our largest branch, but there are people in, well, many, many provinces, many cities in Argentina. You can meet lots of people in Madrid too, and in Barcelona. Hey, I told you guys, the Amsterdam chapter is also full of people from the Latin American community here, so it's like a kind of fight club that's expanding all over the world. I love it. How long ago? How long has Sis Army been around? It will be 14 years in 2012, so officially, since it all started in 2009 we began celebrating the CIS Admin Appreciation Day in Buenos Aires. It is an international event where the last Friday of each month is celebrated as Systems Administrator Day. We did that in 2009, we did it again in 2010, we did it again in 2011, we did it again in 2012, once a year, and what happened was that it was a Friday night, there were no talks, no, this was before the meetups, nothing like that existed, or at least not in that format, and people still talked about work. You'd be walking around, you'd stop and listen, and people would be talking about project managers and their homelab or whatever. It was like, well, once a year we get together on a Friday in a bar or wherever and people still talk about work. So, well, it was like there's an unmet need here for a place to have those conversations—more serious, less serious, more work-oriented, less work-oriented—but anyway, and that's how the idea of creating the community came about. So, 2009 admin Fest, 2012 Sis Army and here we are . Spectacular. Well, and you, obviously, are still in the leadership of Sis Army. Sis Army, their largest community is in Mexico. I find it incredible. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Wendy, yes. Uh, I received a random email in 2017, a girl told me, "Hi, I love what you do in Argentina, I want to replicate it in Mexico." It was like, "Yes, please, welcome." Uh, and today there are about 1000 people in a Telegram group. Uh uh the way we connect digitally in Cisarmis today is primarily through Discord, but each chapter, each branch has its own medium. In Mexico, Telegram is used and it's bridged; there's a bridge between Discord and Telegram. There's Cisarmi Uruguay, I think they also use Telegram, and Sisarmi Concordia. There are a lot of people from Córdoba in Argentina too, Madrid, Barcelona, ​​everywhere. Each one uses their own medium and it's all kind of attached through Discord nowadays. I love it. I love it. Great, great, great. Okay, so what happened then? How was this beauty born? [laughs] At what point did you decide? Did you know that instead of being unemployed, you should have a work-life balance over time? I'm going to organize a conference. Yes. Well, my idea was quite different. It's been 12 years since we started doing it . My life was quite different 12 years ago, huh? But it also arose from a need, just as there is at the time the unmet need for a place of belonging where people can discuss and chat about technology and about life in general. There was also the need, my need, if you will, to have a place where I could receive technical help. What happened was that we used to get together every 15 days to drink beers in Buenos Aires. Brilliant. And at that time I was the only system admin of a company of 300 people, or basically 299 developers and I was providing support to that entire company. And it often happened that every Wednesday when we met, I would go with my laptop and offer a beer to whoever could help me fix the problem at the moment. We're talking about 2003, at that time HGPT didn't exist, of course. Tacf was in its infancy. So it was mostly peer-to-peer support, having someone next to you and being able to give them your laptop and say, "Can you give me a hand with this? I don't understand this, can you explain it to me?" And that happened again frequently. The thing is, this happened again on a Wednesday at 10 pm with four or five beers each of us. So, it wasn't the ideal time to make a change in production. So the idea was, well, let's do it during the day, let's have a coworking event. At that time I did n't know that coworking existed, but well, or that I had that term. Let's have a daytime coworking event without beer until 6 pm where everyone can come with their computer and work on what they are working on or ask for help, give help and so on. That was the Inception, the initial life of Nerdearla. To that, obviously, we added talks, we added workshops and the first Nardarla in 2014 in Buenos Aires, we were about 60 people in a basement that was lent to us. Wow. It went very well. Even though there were 60 of us and I knew 59 of them, I was very welcome . It worked very well. We repeated it the following year . We already had 150, 300, 700, 10000, 10000, 3500 in 2019. And in 2019 we expected at most 2,000 people, but 3,500 came. We had a lot of drone-related problems, we ran out of water, a lot of overcapacity issues, so we said, "Well, 2020 is going to be great for us," and a year before the event we booked the venue, made the payment, and so on. What we never imagined was that the pandemic would come in 2020, so going from in-person events to social distancing in 2020 was difficult. Obviously, we didn't know what to do; we spent a lot of time thinking about what to do, whether to do it or not, or to adapt. What we were clear about was that we didn't want it to be a Zoom call, an 8-hour-a-day Zoom call, because people wanted it in person, or they didn't want it... [sighs] I mean, we wanted it in person, but it wasn't possible. We wanted it in person, but it wasn't possible, but we also didn't want it to be a flat Zoom call, I mean, in Argentina we say a boring one. Of course, we didn't want it to be boring. So we did it, yes, but Well, with a huge production. We partnered with a TV production company and learned how to make television. They learned about digitization, we did the digital transformation of a TV production company, and they taught us how to make TV. So in 2020, Nardear became a virtual event, and from that moment on, our concept was to put the event in a container and upload it to your home because it was basically the only thing that could be done. But, well, with a lot of validity from this mega television production. It was an event, I think for the first time, four or five days, and that was in 2020 and 2021, where we reached 20,000 people from all over the region, and in 2021, 25,000. And it also helped us, even though Mexico was already on the way, to reach more countries in the region. So as soon as we could in 2022, we returned to in-person events, but we maintained that virtual component because there was So many people got to know us thanks to that, they could participate in the talks, the workshops, interact with the sponsors and the companies, and even get their first job or change jobs thanks to the event. And something I haven't mentioned yet is that the event is 100% free. Everything we do at Nerdearla de Sisarmio is 100% free thanks to our collaborating sponsors, but the 2014 Nerdearla event was free, whether in person or virtual. Then, in 2023, we were able to go to Chile for the first time. We held events in Chile in 2023 and 2024. In 2024, we added Mexico City, and in 2025, we added Madrid for the first time last year. We're now operating on a model where the event in Argentina has over 10,000 people attending in person, and then at each of these events—Mexico, Chile, Spain— we're seeing around 100,000 to 2,000 people per event. The event is incredible, spectacular, the growth this conference has had and the way it's maintained its quality, not only of the event itself, but also when it's virtual. Because before I went, I saw it online, and when you see it, you know it's a production, it is a production. You join in and it's like you're watching TV. I love it. It's the first conference I've seen where I even tell the people at Universo every year, "We have to do that," which is to have a feed from different positions within the conference. So you can join to watch the talks, you can enter a workshop, but at all times you feel like you're there. [laughs] I feel like I am. Today there are already seven parallel transmission channels because we have four stages, two virtual workshops, and this seventh channel, which you mentioned, that we call the backstage channel, where we go with a camera to the in-person event. In Buenos Aires it's held at Conex, in Santiago de Chile at GAM, in Mexico City at Expo Reforma, in Madrid at... In the ship. We go to each of these places, as you say, interviewing people, showing a bit of the courtyard or the conversation, the social aspect, precisely with that, so that you, I don't know if you're in Colombia, for example, or in Miami, feel part of the event and don't miss anything, if possible. Spectacular, great, really. And the quality of speakers you bring, the quality of the event logistics. I've had the pleasure of going to both places, Buenos Aires and Santiago de Chile. And in Buenos Aires, well, I don't know where it will be this year, but in Santiago de Chile it's at the GAM or at the same venue, great. We're keeping the same venue for both this year. Oh, perfect. The one at the GAM seems beautiful to me. What's it called? It's the Gabriela Mistral Cultural Center. Gabriela Mistral. Exactly. These are images from the event, I imagine from last year, but I mean, the quality is incredible . Not only logistically, all the love and work you all put in , but also the people who attend this event, the companies. I've met people from companies that, wow, really , not only to go and learn, but also if you're looking for jobs and want to expand and grow your network, it's a great opportunity. If you're in Santiago, if you're in Chile, take advantage, take advantage, take advantage. You can start registering now, right? Yes, of course. Yes, yes. Great. There are more than 3,000 people registered. Wow, wow, wow. And beyond the people who have registered, obviously, you can register, even if you're going to attend in person or online. I think that's a question, right? If you're going in person or online. Exactly. You can participate both ways. On Thursday, I'm a bit on the dates, Thursday the 16th is half virtual, half in person. People who are attending virtually can still see everything online. People in Santiago will be able to register and come. It's in person, but it's three days and you can watch it from home if you're in another city, or even if you're right here in Santiago. You can come in person or watch it from home. Spectacular. Bush is going to be there. Oh my God. [laughs] He's going to be there . I swear I haven't clicked on this page. I haven't [clears throat] clicked on this page. I know you have speakers you invite, but you had a call for proposals that we really put a lot of effort into this year, and we really got it going . Yes, yes, because I imagine you receive an incredible number of proposals, and in Chile, if I'm not mistaken, there were about 250 proposals that anyone could send. Our call for papers is anonymous, it's open, it's free, of course. Mainly, it's anonymous; we don't know who submits the proposal, not even the jury members. For example, Yanina, whom we mentioned before, she's part of the data science jury. From data science, and they're like actors, if you will, uh, like entities close to nerd them and ARMY, with whom we have a good relationship, but each one chooses according to their own criteria based on the title and abstract of the talks, and only when they're graded, only when they've been approved or not, then we do the unveiling, like, " Oh, look, it's Andrea." Uh, that kind of thing happens. Of course, right? But I know for a fact that they do everything with a lot of integrity. I know several of the people who have been part of that jury or who give their opinions, and they're very, very spectacular. Hey, you're going to have a new friend this year. Roxy. Roxy is going to be nerded. Roxy is a good person. Wow, you're going to like her. Rossy just started working at Tork, the Torque Dev people, I don't know if you've met them around there, I think they were around , right? They're sponsors. They're sponsors. Sponsors. Great. Sponsors. Yes, yes. Great, great. I met the guys from Turk in person at Nothings Open. We've been talking for a while now. We met them in person there at the North Opening Rally last year. And they became sponsors of all three conferences in Chile, Argentina, and Mexico. Spectacular. A very good strategic decision for them. We're going to talk about that too because I want us to take a moment to share why this is a good place for you as a company to go and invest in this community, and we're going to talk a little bit about that, but let's take a look at this list of speakers. Let's see who I'm going to become a fangirl of . Of course, always him. I saw one of his talks; he gave a talk about , I think it was about robotics, cars, or something, and it impressed me. I remember , I don't know him personally, Omar, but I remember his talk. Omar, if I'm not mistaken, is from Peru, and he's going to talk about LATAM GPT, which is this initiative. A multi-cultural Latin American with a Latin American identity, doing a GPT trained with data specific to the region, right? Spectacular, spectacular. Frederica, I met Frederick years ago, I have n't seen him in person for years. How great that he's going to have a meeting. [laughs] He's coming in person, he's also going to be at all three events, uh, yes, yes, yes. He's one of the guest speakers invited by the organization. Spectacular. Great. Uh, Ani, I don't know her, but she's one of the CN CF ambassadors that the CN... Yes, CNS, and she's also an Asure MVP. I met Ana there too. Ana, great. Ana's talks are, I mean, uh, incredible, incredible, incredible. Uh, I haven't had the pleasure of meeting Carla, but I know of her. [laughs] People who don't know her, but say, well, now that we're in the same place you're going to meet her in person. I hope so, I hope so. The same with Marty, I don't know him in person. Rocío, I think Rocío was there the year before last. She's part of the organization too. She's going to be a host, for sure, and she's hosted in Chile and Argentina as well. She works in the video game industry. She's amazing. I've met this bald guy a couple of times too [laughs]. Look, I'm in Amsterdam and people have asked me about him. You do n't say. We send our regards to the bald guy. Yes, yes. [suppressed scream] He says, you know him, you know him. And Lesl too. You know what? No. I do n't know Lesl personally. She was in Buenos Aires last year. She gave a spectacular workshop. Amazing, amazing, amazing. I mean, this is just a little sample, but if you want to see the list of all the speakers, click here. Look at this marvel. Fabián is also part of the organization, I mean, I think I've met Nacho too. Incredible talent. Oh, this, this guy, they welcomed him. Look, look who, [laughs] look who 's there. Yes, yes. They invite just about anyone now. How nice, Juana. [laughs] Okay, Juana's coming. I love it, I love it, Rafael. I mean, some great figures in technology. There are talks that are, well, because you're very inclusive, and there are talks given in English too, but most of them, I don't know, in terms of percentages, do you have a rule, how many in Spanish, how many in English? Yes, no, there's no rule, it's more what we receive, but besides that, what we have is simultaneous translation, I mean, and anyway, there's also Spanish-Spanish in case someone has a hearing difficulty, they can also see simultaneous translation on screen, Spanish- to-Spanish interpretation, and also those that are in English, it's English-to-Spanish. Spectacular, spectacular. The ones that are, sorry, the ones that are recorded, there are talks that are virtual, that are recorded a few days before, the ones that are in English are broadcast with subtitles. Great. And all with a The level of production I'm telling you about, folks, is incredible, even conferences here where you pay $1,000 to attend. Okay. When I say "here," I mean here in the United States. The level of production here is unbelievable. And even if you can't be there in person, but you're interested in these topics, look, here are the virtual workshops from Bible Kos Despertar Expect Driven. There are also workshops that will be offered; you register and you have access. And, of course, there are also the streams that will be broadcast, all the content is streamed and then uploaded to our YouTube channel. All the content from 2014 onward is there. Right now, we're in the process of reviewing the historical archive for something that's coming out next week, and all the content from the week is online from 2014 onward, so you can watch talks from 10 or 12 years ago. I love it, I love it, I love it. I mean, this year is going to be incredible. Every year, I think that, well, the opportunity I've had to go to the conference—I went to two different conferences in the same year , but I was more impressed with the second one than the first. I mean, it's an incredible level. What Argentina has going for it is that, well, there are many more editions. Chile is only on its third edition. Argentina is on its 13th, so we have 10 more editions in Argentina than in Chile, which makes the event much more massive. Last year in Argentina, 10,000 people came. In Chile this year, we expect to reach 2,000. So we always grow from less to more, always organically, because that's what it is. It's not a multimillion-dollar production event, but rather, well, it's the biggest event in the region, yes, but organized by a community. So we're growing organically little by little. The army of volunteers that you manage to organize the conference and also the execution of The conference is incredible. An army. An army. It's an army. Yes. Yes. And everyone does it with so much love, so much care, and with a level of professionalism that makes you think they're not getting paid, really. Optimal, for the moment, they get paid. Oh, please clarify. No, no, no. For several years now, we still call them volunteers because of a habit we picked up , but nobody does anything as part of the staff to nerd around for free, right? Nobody is asked to come and work for free. If someone moves a table, that person is being paid. Well, something symbolic, but we don't want to say we don't want to, because it didn't work for us, and we also don't want it to be fair to ask people to come and do things for free, right? What can be done is always paid, and that's how we also maintain a bit of quality. Uh, it happened to us in editions when we were just starting out that we were all 100% on our own, as we say in Argentina. Uh, and well, there It's also about commitment and all that. We professionalized ourselves a bit in that sense a couple of years ago. It's like, well, if someone moves a table, it's because someone got paid. There are always people who are willing to help out of the goodness of their hearts, and there are always people who don't accept being paid or who, instead of paying that person, prefer that we donate to a cause, no problem. But no, Nerdala's organization in that sense is quite structured so that they're sometimes called volunteers—or rather, misnamed volunteers—but they're temporary staff, as they're called here, which I saw. I love it. Very good. Great, great, great. Okay, what's coming next week? You're not going to tell us. Can you give us a hint or anything, not even a clue? Okay, okay, fine, but we already know where you'll tell us, where we'll find out, please. On our social media, right there on the nerdecomo page, you'll find a "if I want to" option. If you scroll all the way down, you'll find a "subscribe" box. And there you can subscribe to Our newsletter, down there is "subscribe to the newsletter," you can subscribe to the newsletter letter and you'll get an email next week. I'm a bit lost with the dates, but I think so. Next week, as well as something fun for next week M, very good. We're working on it against the clock. Very [clears throat] good, very good. I want to take a quick look up here that I saw. Look at this quality of posts. Wow. It's incredible, really, the fact that you can bring these people in and have them put so much love into it and wow, no, really, it's something incredible. It's a problem for us to order that list. It's a discussion we have, I'd almost say, how do you choose? How do you choose? Who are you going to put there? Uh, of course, it's not like who you put first, the father of the internet or the father of Unix or the father of the definition of a computing algorithm or the mother of the internet or the creator of the cell phone or the Creator of the laptop, or the almost-creator of the cloud, let's call him. Uh, it's really difficult, [laughs] it's a good problem to have, but it's very difficult. I love it, I love it, I love it. Well, Jolo, the people who have participated in living in the world of Sis Army have already had the advantage of having a sense of community, support with work-related things. You told me at the beginning that some have even gotten married. There must be a couple of Sis Army babies [laughs] out there somewhere. Not that I know of yet, but maybe. There, there, there. Now, in terms of the conference, you've seen testimonials from the community members who attended the conference—I mean, I know them personally, I was literally there—people were saying, "This is like my 'here'; being here is the best. This is the highlight of my year, right?" People who were looking for work, finishing their degrees, already very senior professionals in their roles, but who find themselves at a point, especially now that everything is... Changing so rapidly, we feel very alone. Yes, exactly. So, going to find your people and feeling in an environment where I'm okay, where we're going to talk about all these things that I'm passionate about, but [laughs] my husband just looks at me with his eyes like, "What the heck are you talking about?" [laughs] So, I know that from the community there's a sense of appreciation and love for this conference that's incredible. I don't know if you have any stories you can share from those you 've heard over the years. I know that jobs have come out of it, internships have come out of it, relationships have come out of it, networking has come out of it, but if there's anything in particular for those watching the broadcast who are saying, " How am I going to go?" "I'm not going, should I go, should n't I?" Yes, come. And look, I'm 15,000 km from home. Uh, I came to another huge conference like Cubecon without knowing a soul. Then, after so many years in the industry, you run into people, I ran into people from Sisarmi I hadn't seen in 6 years, well, they're living here. Imagine. Uh, sometimes it's hard to go to a conference alone. In fact, I'm writing a blog post now for when this is all over. I hope to finish it tomorrow, about how to network at big conferences, some tips and tricks I've learned. Obviously, they're not the definitive ones, they're not the only ones, there are tons of things, and every year and everything. Every event I go to I learn something new, and it's full of that too, but I find it super valuable because many times people don't dare to go to an in-person event. The pandemic has left many of us with some aftereffects, if you will, traumatized. Yes. No, Jolo is gone, can you hear me? There? Now I can hear you. Yes, you were gone for a moment, but you're back. Yes, yes. We 've been doing really well with the phone, I mean, that's asking a lot of the world. Hello, hello, hello, hello. Yes, I can hear you. Yes, perfect. Sorry, an alarm went off about something or other. Um, it's saying that during the pandemic, many people neglected their social life a bit . So, anyway, I'm writing this article for networking tips and tricks . I think there are some testimonials on the Nerdal website itself, and it's kind of how we, let's say, get noticed by people who stop us networkers, who are often running around all over the place, to thank us. It's like, thank you for this, thanks to Nerdal I got my first job, or I was able to change jobs, or I was able to learn about this company, this program, this internship, and so on. People who have gone to live in other countries thanks to contacts they made, thanks At the conference, in the community, as I said before, people have started relationships and even married people they met. There you have those testimonials from the speakers themselves, expressing their gratitude or praising the quality of the conference. It might sound presumptuous of me to say this, but there really are many people who improve a lot and who become multipliers, as we say, of the experience of working in technology, of belonging, of having a group to belong to. There are also people who have stayed in the community who didn't come from a purely tech background. There are many people who reinvented themselves during the pandemic, right? People who were studying, I don't know, law or psychology, and who are now working in technology because they were involved with the community. So, again, it might sound presumptuous of me to say this, but I think Sinarla and any open community event is a multiplier for your career and your personal life. I love it. And there's a point you just brought up that I want you all to take to heart, even if you 're thinking, "Maybe not." They're in this world, they stumbled across this broadcast by mistake, clicked on it, and don't know where they ended up, and they're thinking, "I have aspirations, I want to go see that." This conference is for you too. Go, go to the conference. It's a great opportunity to do something for your ambitions, and it's free. So, Jolo, thank you so much for stopping by and telling us about this great experience of Nerviella. Uh, since Jolo had to leave due to broadcast issues, I really wanted to give you a big hug and thank you for taking the time. I know that trying to make commitments like this when you're traveling is the worst, but thank you for stopping by because I wanted us to have a chance to chat. Jolo came back. Now I was saying goodbye before you left. Yes, I have one more question because I want us to talk about the companies, and I want us to show the sponsors they have this year as well, because I want you to talk about sponsorships, if there's still an opportunity. Let's see where I go with the From Chile, if you want to go to the top part, Chilean editions. Well, those are the ones from last year in Argentina. There, down below, are the sponsors. Very good. These are okay. Or these are the ones for all the events. Here it is. There it is, there's Chile, there we are. Very good. So this year you have AWS, Google Cloud, Grafana, Front Century. I mean, all those companies that, if you have any real ambition to work for them , they'll be there, they'll be represented. Uh, all the community partners, which I also think is something very nice that you do with the communities too, creating those relationships to bring... well, this is the Midu community. Yes, yes, you know, I'm seeing there are quite a few missing, I think I have to update. For example, Shf is missing, and some other communities are also there, Women Tech Makers and others. I have to update now that I'm looking at the community section. Very good, open issue, open [laughs] issue, sir. Yes, The same organizations. I think only the USA is listed down there, and a couple are missing, I think, on the website. Then we'll work with the webmaster. Okay, we're counting as organizations, I mean, I can speak selfishly about the experience I had when we went as sponsors. I think that as companies, those companies that truly understand the value of community mobilization, and not just, well, we all know what Google Cloud is in South America, but it's very different to know that than to go and have the experience of participating in an event that they support, where they have a presence. Often the engineers go, they might even have a speaker. It's a level of immersion that the companies have, an entry point with the community that they do n't have anywhere else, and with a quality of talent that they don't have anywhere else. I don't know if you have anything you can share with us about the advantages for these companies that have joined to support you, right? And you left us at the most crucial moment. No, there it is. You're back. [laughs] Yes, now I am. Yes, but now I can't hear you. Well, anyway, the advantages for organizations are precisely that: one-on-one contact with the community, as you were saying, being able to talk to someone who's just finished their degree, or who's studying, or who's been working in technology for 15 or 20 years. Many companies come looking for talent, to position themselves in front of that talent, because maybe, I don't know, now isn't the time to hire them, but maybe in six months or a year. Or many, like AWS or Google, come to try out their products, to get on board with the AWS cloud, the GCP cloud, and it's one-on-one contact with people who are on the ground. It's not Narla, it's not a trade show, it's not a place where people come to exchange business cards and are dressed in suits and ties. On the contrary, it's a place where they're going to meet... The person who's deploying, who's acting as the guardian of a small or medium-sized company in the Santiago metropolitan area. It's the real contact with the people who could easily be part of their companies. 100% the people who make the decisions when it's time to decide what to implement. And lastly, don't worry, but the part that Jolo just touched on—because, well, we go to these conferences and you see all the people in suits and ties, what's it like?—but at this conference, you'll find the people who are really the bearded ones [laughs] , the ones who can actually give their opinions to the CTO. You know what? This product is good, let's try it. So, there are many advantages, really. I can tell you, I'm sharing my personal experience, as a company, they do everything super organized, with a lot of professionalism, the team, the contacts they have for building their spaces, to make sure that all the SUA, that everything Being there, everything was so seamless. I never had a single stressful moment because they take care of everything, absolutely everything. So, if you're from a company and you know, maybe they're thinking about an entry point into Latin America or they're looking for a talent pool, it's truly phenomenal. I really met people, even from the open source world, but also from big companies, and I was blown away. That's where we met. We've been working together for years, admiring each other from afar, but only going to Nerdearla gave me the opportunity to have these kinds of interactions. So, I'm always a huge fan of this conference, a huge fan of Holo and Sis Army, the amazing team, everyone, Harvy, all the guys and girls, they put in so much effort and created this space for everyone, and I think it's wonderful that we have a point of reference. I love it when every couple of months I see a tweet from someone saying, "It's incredible that this is a free conference in our countries, in our language." And it's true. That's it. Here in the United States, they could do it for free. They couldn't. So, that's been nerdy. When we finish the broadcast, I'm going to leave you with the video I have of a compilation that Holo gave us , which is great. Are you going? Did you decide to go? Did you know about it? Did n't you know about it? Tell me in the comments. Let me know if you're going to go. If you're going to Chile, see you there . Roxy, that's great. I don't know if you're going to Chile too. I hope to see you there. I saw a "No," I literally hadn't seen the list of speakers. So, great. It's going to be a mini-meeting for me and some people I know. The talk I'm going to give is going to be really nice. I'm putting a lot, a lot of love into it. I refactored my extension almost from scratch, simply to bring it as part of the learning experience to show you some real-world examples, right? Things that are actually in production. If you've ever had the experience of being in one of my demos or even by Here at Cuaco Thursday, you know things fall through, you know, things happen. So, with that same energy and with curiosity and a desire to share knowledge, here we go. Jolo, I'm going to bring you here so we can say goodbye, but I already told you, I mean, you're going to get a list of sponsors, you don't know, [laughs] [suppressed scream] that Jolo personally takes them to buy things, to have a beer. Of course, yes. Libra, the culture of the events is spectacular, really. One is a great event, great. Thank you, Jolo, I appreciate your time. Uh, you too, Andre, thank you for the space. I'm going to share your links again here, and also your ex's so they can follow you because you dumped me. I'm going to have to set an alarm. So, when is this announcement due, please? So I'm on the lookout. Next week, if you subscribe to the newsletter, next week you'll get an email announcing something small we 're doing, but Fun. Okay, okay, okay. Very good. Thank you, Jol. Hugs. See you next month . Thank you very much. See you. Bye. So, you know, if you haven't subscribed to the newsletter, go over there and subscribe. It's over there at energiarla.com. You have to scroll to the bottom of the page. But really, again, what a beautiful, beautiful opportunity. Beautiful, beautiful opportunity. Let's wrap things up for today. I'm going to share the link to our project with you one more time. My lovely people, I learned to spell " project" correctly. That's why you come here and learn little things. Otherwise, I'd still be living in the world of ignorance where I was writing " project" with a [laughs] instead of a Y. Go over there to check out our project plan. We already have a comment from Sergio, I think. You know, this space has been a community space from the beginning. The name Quac Thursdays was a name you all suggested, and it stuck. So I want us all to take a moment to First of all, look at Sergio's proposal, and well, if we have a proposal or some other way we think we can do it, improve it, maybe we have another idea altogether, go for it, give it your all. Hmm. Before we go, I want to tell you about the news that I know is causing panic around the world. [laughs] News that's causing panic around the world. But I'm going to tell you why it's not panic news. Uh, I saw a couple of announcements yesterday too, obviously, today, this weekend I'm going to talk about it, I'm going to expand a bit on the topic in my newsletter. So, if you haven't subscribed, I also do it in Spanish, folks. I'll share the link, it's free. Also, since nerding is free, it's good, nice, and cheap. But I want to tell you about the news that came out about how interaction data will be used with Copilot. I mean, what is interaction data? How you interact with the tool, like prompts, code suggestions, Context. now, like literally every lab, there are initiatives to improve the quality of the output and make the tool as efficient as possible. One of the ways to achieve efficiency levels in these models—and the way, well, not so much the models themselves, but the way the tool, the tool's harness, is—is by training with the same experiences. Hey, and let's see if we can finally decide what we're going to call "Harness" in Spanish, because I'm still stumped. Let's continue with "Harness." One way to improve the performance and effectiveness of that is by training with the same experiences. Look, this doesn't mean that Copailo is going to break into your private repositories and steal your code, no. This doesn't mean that everything I do is now part of training an I system, right? First of all, if you're a business or an enterprise, it doesn't affect you in any way because from day one, that has been the company's commitment: that we will never train on your data. Now, as individuals like me, I have 1000 Projects on Ghub too. Oh, I have the option to choose whether I want to obtain them or not. So, if there's something you had disabled, you already said, "I don't want my copilot to give data." Perhaps that happened when you started using Ghub, copilot at first. Maybe, really, who reads the terms of service? I do sometimes, it depends on what it is. So, if you haven't had a chance to look at them, look at them. And if you don't want to participate in this, you have until April 24th to simply say, "I don't want to obtain them to show them to you." Uh, I'm looking for it because I'm currently on my work account, I think that's why I don't have the option. [laughs] I think that's why I haven't been able to see it, but I'll look for it and share it with you because I do n't want us to panic. Those are really the moments when people love, are fascinated by, creating fear that has no justification. So let's look for the link. I'm still looking for it around here. I'm going to log into another account. If you have any questions about that, please let me know. Ah, but give me 30 seconds while I find the link where you can do it. It's in the policy section within your GitHub settings, but I'll look for the link and I think there was a statement that I also want to share with you so that I can explain it to you in the way I understand it. It's simply a matter of either selecting that I want to participate or selecting that I don't want to participate. If I select that I do want to participate, then my interactions, my prompts, all of this will be fed into training the models or the NES. If I select no, then I'm on the same level as people who pay for enterprise and business. You don't use my private data, you don't use anything of mine that's private. Again, if you have a private repository, it won't work. We're talking about things that are public. Ah, but anyway I'm going to look for them again, you you. You know that when you have 30,000 tabs open you never find anything. While I'm looking for it around here. we'll ask her, but it's in the settings. Here I'm going to share the link to the blog post, so you can read it too, but we'll also share it here so we can all see it together, right? So you can see more or less what this topic is about. But I wanted to take a moment to tell you that I really have to finish on time today, folks, because I have a meeting coming up for some special things that are coming up in May. I'm like holo. The change in interaction, uh, this was literally announced yesterday. Then it says within settings under privacy. So, you go to settings, then to privacy, and there you'll find the option. If you had previously opted out, then it's already determined. But if you hadn't taken a moment, if you don't remember clicking and making that selection, well, you know you have to do it. Here is a bit of the explanation Mario gave about why he used this real data. Ah, again, this is something that is a personal decision. If you want to participate, if you don't want to participate, I simply want you to know that it's not a matter of panic, it's not a matter of my super secret being going to train now, no. You have the option until April 24th. Make sure you go to the settings within Copilot, under the privacy area, and there you have the option to set the policy you want whenever you want to do it. That's the whole idea, that we shouldn't panic because it's not a matter of panic, it's simply a matter of having to make a decision if you want to participate or not. And if, well, if you do n't want to, you have the option of telling us no, just take a moment to do it before April 24th. That has been my flag for today. Hugs to all. Thank you for being here on this somewhat special Thursday at COAC, but I wanted us to discuss a topic. I think it's really nice when there are communities that organize themselves, create organizations, companies and don't forget, don't forget where they started. Uh, and that's the thing with the Cis Army. They don't forget about Fridays with beers trying to fix a show in production, do they? And they created this lovely space to give you all the opportunity to have that same kind of encounter. If you're going to Chile, see you there. If you see me, say hi. [laughs] If my face looks very serious, it's because I'm very recently in the right frame of mind. It's not that it's anything unusual, but I really do give them a spectacular talk. The project is turning out really nice. I'm going to send you the link to my newsletter again so you can subscribe. I have it in Spanish again too . It's good, pretty, and cheap. And if you want, if you have any, if you see any tech news, whether it's related to Gijab or not, if it's a technology issue that impacts your daily life, please tell me, go there, leave it for me. And do n't forget about our project, our project. Next week we're going to look at the discussion together and get started. We're going to add a couple of agents to the job. We started scaffolding that. Let's decide what it's going to be, whether it's going to be a web app, an extension, or something else. I think that right now, given how nice it is, I'm not a designer and I don't have any experience, but given how nice some of the Fronen templates are, I feel confident that we can create a web app that looks good and gives us the opportunity to share not only open source projects, but also how wonderful that we have this network of Spanish speakers where we share these things. So, there you have it. Go that way . You have time, leave your comments, comment on what's already there. If you have any other new ideas, bring them. And later today, if you're without plans for the evening, I'll share the link to Yanina's event, where she'll teach us how to do code reviews. I'm actually writing a blog post about how to review code that has been generated by agents. If you have any experience with that, please send me a DM. If you don't want to share your secrets, your secrets here are handled anonymously. You can write to me and I'll just share the lesson, but I'll keep your name to myself. Uh, I'm trying to create something of value for all of you. So, if you have had any specific experiences, what you have done, what you haven't done, how you have improved your code review practices, or how they have changed now in this new agentive era, please tell me . A big hello to you, Pablo. Thank you so much for being here. I hope I can go and nerd in Buenos Aires too. I truly fell in love with Buenos Aires and Argentina, Chile, well, everywhere. What one feels here is sadness for not being there. Anyway, hugs to everyone. I hope you are all doing well, and have a nice Thursday. Don't forget to take the time to go through your settings and configure that privacy setting before April 24th. But again, no panic. Nothing is done here without your consent. Thank you all for being here. I'm going to leave you with the video compilation so you can get a little bit of an idea of ​​what nerding is all about. If I find it. Hey, it's disappeared. Mm. My little friends were here using the space. I think they lowered it for me. Well, if I don't find it in the next 5 seconds, whatever, take my word for it. It's a really nice event, well, nice and cheap, and a great opportunity for career growth. And I hope to see you there. Hugs to everyone, take care. See you next Thursday at Quack. Thank you, thank you. Bye. Since I don't have to make her nervous. Oh, how sad. Hey, what happened? What happened to me? I'm looking for one more second. Yes, it seems that someone suddenly deleted it by mistake. Jolo, if you're still watching this, please send me the video again. Thank you. And if not, here, however it may be, I'll leave you with a little duckling. See you next week. Thank you.