Unus Annus

Hey. Hey, hey, hey. hey, hey. Oh my god. What day is it? Did we make it? Oh, we got to go, Mark. I was just trying to time it. Did we make it though? I think we did. Yeah. 5 years. Are you sure? We don't have a clock. We just had ticking. I think so. Okay. 5 YEARS. OKAY. [screaming] COME ON, MARK. COME ON, MARK. Let's go. [screaming] Let's go. We got it. Okay. Hello. Hello. [laughter] If we're not muted, hopefully. Are we here? Are we here? Wow. Are we five years, gang? Five years. Five years. And boy howdy, do we have a plan for you. [laughter] Do we? Oh, do Oh, you know, we've been from the beginning. We had this all in store. Surprise, surprise. We've been watching your every move. Mhm. M we've been calculating the outcomes, the multiplicity of the all the choices of the universe. I can't believe people didn't see the hints. They didn't see the hints anywhere. Well, some people didn't. Yeah. There were a select few, a beautiful, intelligent, perfect few. Yes. That saw the path, what we intended, what we really meant. Everything about it. Welcome, gang. And only the ones who got it are here. Yep. That's right. So, you're part of a a select few. Beautiful bees. Yes. Yes. Exactly. Yeah. We've actually been building this entire uh skyscraper. We're in We're in the first floor of a skyscraper, of course. Um we've been building it all this time with our own hands. Uh we filmed the entire process, of course. Um we won't release it to you. No. Because you don't deserve it. Uh as perfect as you. Why would you think that you deserve Come on. [laughter] Oh man. And guess what? We don't even just have this. We've got this, too. [laughter] And we've got that. Wait, we have one more. Wait, cut back to the wine. [laughter] What if Amy was here? [screaming] [ __ ] Tech. In the years, technology has has advanced so far. [laughter] So far to be able to Are we We're not needed, right? We're here, right? Exactly. We're around. So, is it time to unleash all of the secrets that we've been in store? The five years of videos that we've been doing every day since for Quintis Honest. Mhm. Everybody's getting ready for Quintis Honest. 1,826 videos are dropping in three, [laughter] two, one. What? That would be so crazy if we could bring it back. Bring the channel back. You know, but we didn't. And it's that's not true. Yeah. And if you thought for a moment that it was, you're a fool. You cut to this one. You're a fool. Quick, quick, cut to this one. The other one. Yeah. You're a fool. [laughter] If you thought that we would be doing anything like that, you're a fool. Well, okay. Well, we are here doing an Ununice on stream. Literally, we are as But we don't have 1,000 whatever videos. No, we don't. And we didn't have 1,000 videos before. We had We had 367 videos. Huh. Yeah. 367. Oh, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There was like the intro videos and whatnot. Anyway, uh, so we have a lot to talk about. We do. Should we tell them what we're doing? I mean, it's not. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. Okay. Hey, stay on this one, though. Or do this one. The other one. [laughter] So, every year for the last five years, we have uh done a little video. The first one was us like finding the coffin again. Yeah. Putting down it's a rose. Second one was going back to it. Yeah. No, the second one was going first one we slow motion walked up, put down the rose, said some words. Second one we came back, said some words again, an update just straight up. And then the third one was like, "Hey, it's been a while." But filmed kind of off angle. And then the No, the the third one was when we had both of our thing. Or was that the second one? When did we have both of our angles? Oh, that's right. The second one was us both. And then the third one was going back being like, "Hey, it's been a while, but kind of off angle." Fourth one was we didn't show up at all. Yeah. And then there was a definitely didn't write ourselves into a corner. It's all part of the plan. It's all part OF THE PLAN. ALL PART OF THE PLAN. ALL PART OF THE incredible plan. all part of the incredible plan. Um, but today we thought because it's five five years since the death of Unison, we just sit, we'd talk about uh, you know, what it was like doing that, go over old memories and go over new memories and new life. Yeah. Yeah. And whatnot. Can I admit something about this as well? This all this came together really quickly from you and Amy just last like 24 [laughter] hours. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz we didn't think that Well, I mean, I think a week ago, we didn't really think we were going Amy. Amy. I think like a week ago, we didn't really think that we were going to be uh doing this or Well, we fig I figured it would come together because it always came together, right? Yeah. Yeah. you you had a plan, but uh given like things that were happening in the moment and how busy things were, it was it's kind of shocking that we were here, but as soon as it started moving, it felt like we were back at Unison days. We did like the last I was talking about this with my therapist this morning. I was like, "Is the Unos deathversary today?" I was like, "Yeah, it's been really nice." Like the last couple days we've been prepping for the stream. And I said that I was like, "It feels kind of like what it felt like when we were in it." And it was it's kind of nice. I don't know. It's like It's like when when someone uh is pregnant and they give birth and it's crazy pain and then later on they forget and they go, "I wasn't that bad." And you want to make a baby again. Yeah. It's kind of like that where I've forgotten the pain and so [laughter] I'm like, "I could do that again." Yeah. And let me tell you, I have not forgotten the pain. I I have, you know, I thought I would have so many more projects under my belt at this point. The past three years have been nothing but iron lung and let me tell you, three years is so much worse than one. I would love to go back and do honest again. And so that's why [laughter] we're not. No, no, no. It's it's not happening again. It's it's been especially the past few weeks, you know, it's been really refreshing to do this. I I I for many who like don't know like Henry passed away um a couple weeks ago and so it's been really really hard to do anything um especially as it's coming into the the last moments with the movie. Um you know it's it's just been really hard to get going in the morning and especially in the evening. But it's been uh every time we were doing something like this like I was I was in in my office like doing the work that I didn't want to do just kind of just sitting there really but as soon it was like it's time to do the prep for the stream. It's like I get this weird like surge of energy like suddenly this joy came out and I was just like man I I love the making of this huge endeavor but the the actual creativity was so long ago and then it's just all this business and fiddly. But this stuff is so fast-paced like We did we we set stuff up for this 15 minutes before it started and it was like that's funny. Let's do that you know. Yeah. [laughter] Yeah. Oh, did you do that with the movie? Did you like the intro video? We we filmed that yesterday. Uhhuh. Yeah, [laughter] we filmed it yesterday and in in such it was so nice in such unisonous fashion. We came in here and we were like, "All right, what are we doing?" Yeah, I guess we'll we'll get in the coffin and then we'll just like 3 2 1 and then we'll burst out and then we'll just kind of get up and then we'll go like, "Okay, time to go." And it's just like I don't know. It's so nice being uh like the three of us are just on the same page where it's like oh yeah no it'll it'll work. It was two takes and both would have been good. Yeah. It it it really you miss a lot. Uh too bad I hated you after it ended. I know. Isn't that crazy? Took you 5 years. I know. [laughter] To get back in the same room again. It's been so long. Stop punching you before the stream started, you know. But as soon as it started, you know, I don't want my reputation to be burned this close to the release. You know, I don't [laughter] want to lose this. You can't uh the drama dams that I've been plugging, you [laughter] know, have been just about to explode. And it it has been really nice like in the last Yeah. Well, in the last 24 hours, just seeing each other for the first time again since because of the deep hatred. That you had to resentment. Yeah. The resentment, the everything. I mean, I just couldn't even believe you would steal my spotlight for a single moment. And having to endure that for a year took me five years to recover emotionally. I did not see a therapist at all. Actually, no. You just saw yourself in the mirror to yourself. [ __ ] You were right. He was wrong. This is what I did. You can't just laugh and it cuts to a closeup of [laughter] them. That's not nice. No. Yeah. What's wrong with my face? So funny. What's wrong with my face? Nothing. There's nothing wrong. Look how much more bounce I get from my white shirt. And look how much knot I get from my shirt. I'm seeping into the dark and evil. Meanwhile, good good person. If you're wondering why they're not wearing their suits, it's obviously because the year's over and that's why they're not wearing them and not because Well, we weren't going to wear them anyway, were we? I don't know. I know. There was a debate about the jacket. Uh, and you know, couldn't The suit's gone. The work suit just walked off one [laughter] day. Disappeared. It didn't walk off. The bag it was in is empty. I just had it. You wore it at your wedding. [laughter] That was not the same suit, everybody. That was not the same suit. Clearly not. It was double breasted. Double breasted. Your unison suit. No. Yes. Your You wore your Unison suit and I officiated the wedding. Kingdom of Baba. That's how I remember it. Do you remember me officiating your wedding? So beautiful. [laughter] The words that I said when I wed you. Oh yeah, absolutely. Say them again. They were so beautiful. Yeah. Yeah. Please. I bring you guys on and here today. Go on. Kiss. [laughter] Oh man. Right now. Too bad it had to be a video call cuz we couldn't be in the same room obviously cuz hatred. Yeah. Yeah. When's glue two, man. Glue two could be soon. Once once iron once your once all your blood stuff is done, then we can bring back in the glue. Yeah. Oh, man. It's so close. I have so much to do before the fact that this stream is happening is crazy. Honestly, you guys got I mean, let me tell you, these these weeks are not the weeks like it's it's not. But here we are. Here we are. And I feel like none of you saying like none of you being like I'm so busy is ever like you looking for sympathy from anybody. I think it's it's just genuinely like like with losing Henry and everything and it's like okay and now we have to do like 14our days for the next god knows how long minimum you know next couple months but it's like I don't know it it feels like an interesting intersection to me of like grief and creativity and I don't know. Absolutely. I mean, if you think about it with Unison Honest, like going into CO and man, can't believe CO's still locked down, man. We've been locked down since the end. We've been in this room. Yes. In our skyscraper that we built. He he didn't he hasn't hated me for 5 years. We've been in this room for 5 years. Exactly. Uh but it was it was funny cuz when you know Well, not funny. It was actually opposite of funny, I guess. But when it was happening, you know, in a way we were sad cuz we had all these plans and all these ambitions. We touched on that and that became part of the art at the end. We did those uh like basically short films where we were talking about how it wasn't perfect, but it [clears throat] never is and you still move forward. And so, you know, even even I'm still trying to remember lessons that I thought I learned that were engraved in my bones from Unison. And it's so easy to to forget them. It's weird that it's already five years from the death day. Uh it both it both it's one of those things where it's like it feels like it was yesterday, but it also feels like it was 40 years ago. Like um I don't know. It's very It's very interesting to think back on that time and I always think back on that and I'm like, man, how did we do that? That was so much. And you guys were doing regular videos then too. At least to some regularity through that. I don't know how regular it was. I don't remember. But it was semi-regular as much as we could. More regular. No, [laughter] more regular than it was now for me for sure. And man, there's so many reasons that I could explain. And I think now I I can explain a little bit of of what's going on because I mean it wasn't all but there were occasions with uh we can talk about it more like when we're going to Amy and I I'm gesturing this way. [laughter] You're a little doll there. So I can be the streamy. You can Amy and I we're also going to talk about us getting married and and that and the movie and tons of stuff. We don't want to make that the main focus of this. Make Ethan our third wheel. Are you going to talk about our unison dance at the wedding? Obviously. We had our our thropppal dance. No, but you did you Ethan did screw up at our wedding. He did introduce Mark's [laughter] mom. Okay. Okay. So, I didn't officiate the wedding. I don't know where people got that from, but I did like MC kind of. So I was the person that like introduced them for the first time and they walked into their room for their thing and then I like announced like the dances and stuff. He's good on a mic. We thought lines I had fun which was you know for the first time then for the second time and then for the third time and then the the father we thought it was funny every time we came out if Ethan had to do for the third time. For the very [laughter] No, it wasn't for the third time. For the very third time. [laughter] Yeah, it was very good. Um, yeah. So, uh, but he messed up because he said, you know, the fatheraughter dance and then you said [laughter] father son dance, the father son dance. Very much like, [laughter] hey Siri, call me dad. The father son dance. And then I immediately was like, I mean, whatever, go. And [laughter] then later later later when like the when the normies got to dance I uh your mom walked by me and I was like are you going to save a dance for me later? And she went no you called me a man. [laughter] Very funny. That [snorts] was very funny. [laughter] Yeah. Uh but we'll we'll talk more in detail. Amy and I, again, this is not me being like, oh, we're so busy. But like, hand over heart, we intended, Mark and I, to do a live stream after we got engaged. And now, what, a year and a half or two, however long it's been, it's a long time. Engaged. We were going to cuz we we didn't tell anybody for a little bit and then we were like, okay, eventually we have to say something. And we're like, maybe cuz I was like, the idea of a main channel video like makes me want to vomit. It made me very very anxious. Not the vibe. But then [clears throat] it was like, well, I could I was going to jump on Powerwatch pals. That was the idea. But then all of a sudden, people are going to engage and go on a podcast and I don't know. I very cringe very quickly and I'm like, I don't know if I want to be. Yeah. Yeah. So, honestly, this is kind of a cathartic moment to be able to just talk casually. There's so few moments where there was like the occasion, the aligning of the stars or whatever. And so this being the 5-year, even though technically it's the worst time for work uh or personal life in general, it's weirdly the best time because of all the things that have happened. Um, I feel like happening doing stuff like this specifically with Unison, there's like a weird like I feel like you guys probably feel this where there's a weird like safety with it, you know, where if it was anything else, it would be way more stressful, but because it's unison, it's like, oh, there's a weird kind of like safety net. Also, like the like for me, the set decking and all of it and the setup is very familiar cuz it's it's not a movie, so it's not intimidating. It's like it's YouTube and aren't these the chairs? These are the These are the chairs that we uh did the uh honest the honest video, you know, where we were honest. We did a lot of honest videos in these chairs. Uh it was not the final chairs. We don't know where those are. Were there were there for the final? Yeah, there was [clears throat] like I think they rented chairs for that. Yeah. Yeah. You got We filmed doing this on his own. Yeah. I got I forgot about that. Let's Yeah. Let's recap everything that we've done since then. Since then? Yeah. cuz you started right away. Well, started right away, but you wanted to do something. Oh, yeah. God, I need to Someone needs to make a timeline, man. Uh, doing my show. Yeah. I went on tour. Uh, let's see. Okay, so Unison ended November of 2020. And I went on tour in March. of 2021. Um, and I can't remember. I guess it was Feb. No, it was I don't remember exactly when it was. It was probably December of Wait, no. When was that? You started it. It took you a while to get the idea together. Yeah, cuz it I'm trying to think now because November 21st, 2021 was when I did the tester show. And then I guess it was that was a year later. Yeah. So that's when I did the tester show and then March of 2022 is when I went 2022 Toronto. Yeah. Is when I went on tour and then I wrote the show for uh like 8 months to a yearish cuz after the tester show I like polished it and stuff like that. Um that feels like such a long time. I mean it was it does. Doesn't it feel further back though than Unison? Yeah it does. Yeah. That's like space feel space space was and it'll feel sooner. I have a funny story to talk about that that I haven't really talked about but I think I can because YouTube original doesn't exist anymore. So yeah I can I [laughter] can I can talk about this. Can I tell this? You mind if I interrupt? Okay. So during the last parts of Unison or like the the 6 months leading up to the end, I was supposed to have already started uh filming space, but co had happened and I was telling them constantly I don't think that's possible because of gestures to the world and the precedent hadn't been set for like you know after by the time that we filmed in space that all of those protocols had been set and there were people like people that we worked with who were in production who pivoted their jobs to like doing COVID testing. Basically, just had to adapt. Somebody had to do that job. Absolutely. And so, uh, but at the time, YouTube was pissed. [laughter] YouTube was livid that I was, not YouTube as a whole, you some certain people at YouTube was livid that I was slacking off and not doing the show. And I kept telling him, I'm doing something really important on YouTube with a YouTube channel that you're not paying [laughter] me to do. That you're not paying me to do, but it's I feel like this is an art piece that you should celebrate. I will tell you, YouTube was not supportive of Unis honest because [laughter] because they were so mad at me for not doing space at the time they wanted me to do it. I had producers from YouTube originals that were calling up my producers screaming at them saying, "You need to control Mark." And thank [ __ ] my producers were like, "Do you know Mark? [laughter] I I don't control him. What would they do?" Like, you can't go into production. That's the crazy thing. It's like and and it's like the script for Space was so far beyond what they could even understand. So when I actually handed over the script, they didn't read it. It was 380 something pages of just [ __ ] nonsense. 89 different videos with a bajillion branching paths because you get notes back that were nonsense and you're like, "Yeah, if you if you wrapped your head around this and you know that there was a stupid note." Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean I I don't remember even that cuz I didn't talk about it really because it's like it didn't matter. Um and that's why they when we deleted the channel that's why Should we talk about that? It's kind of funny. Let's get it all. This is not this is not like oh what was uh oh don't feel bad for us it's simply a funny story okay we don't know the number for church it was hard to tell because the last month of unison obviously all you guys everybody was trying to watch a video everyone was trying to cram it in views unbelievable views that month so we had we had I think 160ish million views maybe more probably more than that in the month in the month I think we got a billion. Probably more than it was a lot. No idea. Like everyone was trying to social blade isn't accurate. I have no idea. Um it was the kind of numbers that YouTube verifies on the back end. So it's like hard to say. This is all just to give context of what went down. Yeah. Again, this is not a wo is me. We were fine as soon as we heard that that's the way it was going to be. Well, the email was very abrupt, but we're like, okay, I guess that's what it is. I'm not going to and I don't know why we didn't go back to them being like, "Are you sure there's nothing?" So, the way that YouTube works, right? You watch a YouTube video and ad plays. YouTube gets the money first and then they take their cut of that and then they give it to you. So, the ads have already played on all of these videos throughout the month. We didn't get a check from YouTube on the last month of Unison because they said, "Well, you stopped midway through the month, so we can't pay you." Yeah, you deleted the channel. So, we on our back end, we can't do anything about it cuz they couldn't they don't own that. It's a big enough goddamn number. Yeah, that money is sitting somewhere. So, it it legitimately uh they were just like, "No, you're not getting that last month." And and of course, again, not wo is us. It's just It's funny because I have to assume that if we were in any kind of good graces with YouTube because of how mad they were at me, that they would have made an effort to do something about that. YouTube, you have that data in your back end. Mhm. You should go through and you should just say, "Hey, it's fine. I'd rather just be able to talk about this in the open [laughter] and be able to [ __ ] on them a little bit." Crazy that they did that. Yeah, it is. It is crazy. And I've always been the biggest YouTube defender. I still believe it's lesser now, but I still believe it's a it is a place where creativity can be out like put out there. I believe that Tik Tok is pushing ahead or is already ahead in terms of like the instantaneousness of being able to put it out there. But I still think YouTube is a great place if you can get a consistent solid core to be able to make a career out of it. It's very hard to make a career on Tik Tok. It is not easy to make a career on YouTube, but it's a more stable, developed, robust platform. That's not me defend. I usually am a very big YouTube defender. Still am, but less so. Um, and with this, I feel like they were mad. They I think they were they were [ __ ] pissed and then they stole from us. They didn't tweet. They did not tweet the day of our last live stream. No one no YouTube account. Nothing. YouTube didn't say a word. Yeah. And it was everywhere on the internet. Like every single This was back before Twitter is what it is now. Like every single thing was Unison related on that final stream. Yeah. Uh Yeah. and YouTube didn't didn't I remember I was talking to someone at YouTube. I forget who, but I I told them um like yeah, it was crazy. I I think we must have had one of the highest live stream viewers ever. Like we had 1.7 million, I think was the peak right before the end. Um and they I I remember it was so dismissive. Whoever I was talking was just like, "Yeah, well, the the the guy, he didn't say this, but the guy who jumped out of the the the way up high weather balloon or something and and the tallest fre." Yeah, the Red Bull thing. It was like technically that had like two something million. So, it's like your accomplishment meant dick. That's legitimately the way they put it out there. It's like I said, yeah, we had 1.7 million people concurrent on the stream. That must have been that must be up there. I didn't even say it was number one. I said it was like it must be an accomplishment, right? I feel like I was I was kind of like I was proud. It was nah other streams. Not number one. It was never number one. Ninja Drake. I don't know whatever was happening back then. Oh, we had way more than more like 600 I think. 600 700,000. In the waiting room before the stream started, we had 200,000. Yeah, it was crazy. And it's not to brag. This isn't bragging about the numbers. This is We look back on this not because we're like, "Wow, we were so successful." It's like, wow, it meant that much to that many people. It meant something that they wanted to witness the death of this channel. It meant something. The the thing that really blew me away with the end of Unison was like the insane support from everybody who watched it was that was incredible. But the thing that really put into perspective how big Unison was was all of my friends tweeting about it and being like, "Oh, I had no idea that like any of you guys would watch this stream or just like random peers being like, "Wow, watching the end of Unos blah blah blah blah." There was everybody was watching. It was crazy and it was so wild and it really put into perspective how how big of a deal it was and like this really cool thing that we made. Um it was very special. I was talking to my mom about that yesterday where I don't I have a hard time like acknowledging accomplishments that I've had and I'm like yeah like I went on tour and it was good fine. But Unison is one of the only things where I'm like, "Wow, we we really kind of like made history on YouTube a little bit." Like no one will ever be able to do what we did. Like there will only ever be one Unison uh and one thing like that. Like anything that happens that's similar to Unison in the future, I think will just kind of be compared to what we did. And I think that's pretty crazy that we that we made something so special. I think so. Yeah. I I and again I hesitate to say it in a purely bragging way but there's there's many times where I am just proud of what we have done and I think it is perfectly okay to say that I am proud of what we have done um and that is healthy in summers I'm known as an egotistical guy of course like but um I am extremely proud and the the problem with that pride is I went on to did space and let me tell you the production of space was nightmarishly difficult to It was so much to wrap my head around. The whole team had to wrap their head around it. The filming of it was so intense. More filming days than Iron Lung had. How many crew were on that? 140. It was huge. Which that Mark, you have to cut YouTube some slack. It It really makes sense to put 140 150 people into a production uh deep in CO. So, you should have listened to them. Well, they could have paid for all of it, you know, but they didn't do [laughter] that either, you know. No, we were sick on that shoot. We had one person test positive and they didn't make it in the door. Mhm. Yeah. No, we were very very good about that. Um, and so it was a very well-run production. It it it was nightmarish, not in terms of like it was hell on set. It was a great set. That's not what I meant. The actual putting it together was so much stress and so much work and so much effort. The crew did beautifully. like that that's not where the any of the issues was. Uh there were there was obviously some hiccups here and there, but I'd like to think a lot of people who came off that set could say like, "No, those are very fun." Or at least very least it had really good food. That's a big priority to me on sets is really good food. Good food. That's if you're going to have long days, you might you got to have great food. And you know, we're we're filming in Austin and Austin has great food. Uh but it was it was so much intense work because I was like, I got to go bigger, you know, I got to go better. And and I think space suffered because it was too big because I was reaching too hard. The uh the ending of it wasn't supposed to be part one, part two. It was supposed to be just one. Um the ending of part one. Was that a you thing or was that a YouTube thing a little bit? Was that was a compromise between me and the the former head of YouTube, who is not the person that I am talking [ __ ] about, by the way. I'm I'm so sorry. Names are terrible with me and I'm forgetting. the former head of YouTube Originals um while I was doing that is not the person I'm talking about here. Uh uh she's very lovely. Um and I I I took on too much. But part one, part two was a way to get more money from YouTube, even though it wasn't enough to do all of it. Even though I know some shows got [laughter] way more than and they weren't nominated for an Emmy, but that's fine. Whatever. Anyway, it's it's totally off the path. I'm getting off topic. [laughter] No, this is the topic. It's what's been going on the last five years. It's just what we've been what we've been doing. Yeah, true. It's just reflecting on all these projects and how you've grown. You know, Iron Lung was supposed to be smaller. Well, and that's when we started Iron Long. That was the most infuriating part out of the gate was the amount of people when you're like, "Oh, I'm doing a feature." They're like, "Wow, are you ready for that?" Like he like [laughter] the last thing you had done was just the most [ __ ] bat [ __ ] like [ __ ] crazy brain thing you've ever done. And not to say that Iron Lung didn't end up being an absolute goddamn bear, but Yeah. But for different reasons. And we'll talk. Not because it was a feature film. Yeah. Not because it was a feature film. That was the fine part. That was totally okay. Yeah. As far as amount shot, you shot way more for space than long. What was the total run time if you 9 hours or something? Space 6 hours and uh close to 7 hours. Not quite 7. How many How long was production? 45 days I think. And then how long was Iron Long production? 35. Mhm. And that got extended from the the original. Yeah. Oh god, I forgot. And then that first week we panicked and added days. I panicked and added 10 days cuz it was supposed to be a 25-day shoot because again it was supposed to be smaller. So that's the problem. I went too big with space and then we came in too small with Iron Lung and so it suffered because of that and then it suffered because of that you know um not that it wasn't a fairly ambitious idea. It was a you know I mean it was it hasn't come out yet [laughter] for you guys but you know approaching the end of it right now. Uh it it wasn't something that could be really small, but it was supposed to be contained where a space was so expansive and huge. I wanted to do something that was super focused, like laser focused in here. Um and and there's tons of challenges that were either part of my own fault, production fault. Uh egos get involved when it's like a serious feature film. Not blaming anyone on on set or anything like that, but people take it much more seriously than what seemed like a fun YouTube thing with space, which it was. It had a serious core, but at the Cardiff it's a fun YouTube channel. It could be scuffed at the end of the day and that could be the joke. Yeah, a movie can't. A feature film cannot Well, it could be, but I You're not You're not writing a comedy. Look, next time you're at a comedy, make it goofy and scuffed. I want to make a comedy. [laughter] Please. I'm so desperate. You want to make a comedy? Yeah, of course I do. [laughter] I like jokes, you know? I like jokes. I like a lot. And I feel like every once in a while, nothing makes me happier. I'll come across some random tweet or something and it'll somebody be somebody like in the last few months being like, "I finally got around to watching in space and holy [ __ ] this is dense with jokes." So dense. So dense. Oh, it's so dense with jokes. That's one thing that I think that you genuinely have a skill in is your density of jokes that you can pack in. How would I didn't really ever think about that cuz like when [snorts] I'm trying really hard to like not say anything cuz like with space it's and people have seen it obviously and it's like haha goofy blah blah blah blah blah but with something like Iron Lung it's not like that. Was that weird on set at all? Like did that kind of like for lack of a better term like bring down morale? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think it's a spoiler to say that Iron Long is not a happy [laughter] experience. Okay, so that's what I was going to say and I was like maybe not cuz a lot of people have been like, "Oh, have you seen Iron Long?" And I'm like, "Kind of." And they're like, "Is it fun?" And I'm like, "I wouldn't say it's fun. It's not really a fun movie in that sense. It's a ride. I'd [laughter] call it a ride." Yeah. Yeah. If you know about the coaster that does six loops and then and [laughter] then kills you. That's kind of a good analogy. Uh but uh uh I think I I think I know what you're good at. Uh with Wait, what were you getting at? [laughter] Oh. Uh did compared to like space where words hug wolfy goofy with iron lung did it like kind of bring down morale? Right. So that's where it was tricky because obviously the character that I'm playing is not having a good time. But as soon as a yell's cut, I like having fun on set with space because I would be in different costumes and get into a different character. So I would get into that character and I would be able to play that character and it's fun and everyone's having a good time. It's taking it less seriously. Um there's not as much pressure in terms of like delivering performance. So, so when I'm have to deliver a really tough performance on, you know, Iron Lung, it it's difficult to be happy before and it's really difficult to be happy after when I've done it so well that everyone is weeping in Video Village from the genius that was my acting. [laughter] It's true. It's hard. It's hard. Also, let alone like your actual physical exertion and like risk that you took on with this project. And again, this is not frankly a a flex, but like Iron Long, if I could give one non-spoiler, it would be that like it nobody else could make it. And that's not even necessarily a compliment. It's just like you just wouldn't put an actor through what you put yourself through. I wouldn't for sure. No, you couldn't. It wasn't not that you were doing things that were unsafe. I don't, you know. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, as safe as you could be. It [laughter] was like It was There was [ __ ] that you were doing that was brutal on you. It was this whole conversation of the clip in my brain that is playing from Spongebob is just careful Spongebob carefully. [laughter] I know. Yeah. I know people are chomping at the bit. Um but it really is super soon until you will have something actionable. Actionable. Keep your eyes out if you're here and you're interested in Iron Lung. just keep your eyes and ears open to all the channels that Mark is on and he'll tell you when there's something you can do. We'll probably talk more when we talk. But uh anyway, yeah, it's very exciting though. Very exciting. Yeah. Tell about the last three years that you've been under cuz you I know you Yeah, I know you've been extremely hard at work like you like before even like you're doing these huge like big production videos now and that's I guess what you're doing. trying to spoil it. Oh, no. Yeah, the last the last little bit there's been a lot of videos that have been in the works that have been kind of crazy which will which are being worked on and will come out when they come out. Uh, but there's a lot of really big videos coming down the line. A lot of things that take a take a long time. Um, the last the last few years weird. I mean, I think I definitely um the the thing that I worked the hardest on and that was the most personal from this last 5 years was definitely tour. Like I really put a lot into that and I had so much fun going on tour and that's something that I really want to do again because I really like I I like performing a lot. Um and that's something that I really missed. Uh cuz like when we went on tour, it was so much fun. Just being on stage every night and then doing that again for my tour was super super fun. Um and being being like really vulnerable for anybody who saw my show, it was a pretty vulnerable and like personal show. Um, and that's always something that that's difficult where it's like that's something that I want to do again, but I'm not really sure what how I want to do that or like what I would do, but I still have the itch of like, oh, I I know that I want to go on tour again, and I know that I'll figure out a way to do that again. I feel like there's a lot of opportunity. Not that you would want to do it that way, but I think of like what is it like Scribble Showdown or some of those shows that are more variety where it's not just you having to carry two hours, you know? I think you probably could cook up some kind of I don't know I didn't mind carrying two like it also it every show went by super fast. Um so I didn't mind Listen guys, I love being the center. I don't I don't have a problem with that. Um it's just like figuring out what that show would be if I were to tour again. And I will tour again at some point. Like it's something that I really really want to do. So, I just have to figure out what that would what that would be. You could get a standup routine. Get a tight 40. A tight [laughter] 40. 40. Yeah, you could do that. Well, you don't want people to pay a ticket price for a 10minute show. No, but I would also feel bad about 40. I think it everything's got to be at least an hour. Well, is he joining standup sets? No, I don't I don't have an hour of jokes. I don't want to do standup at all. M uh a very serious show. Very serious show. I want people to serious show. Yeah. Yeah. Weep and cry. Remember how you were like, "Oh, I can't wait to do a comedy." And we were talking about bringing the morale down with Iron Lung. That's kind of what I want to do. I want to go up on stage and make people really sad. They'd sit there and they go, I don't want to be here, [laughter] you know. Yeah. I got a taste of that with Who Killed, you know, when we did that. just bring in the mood way down at the end of that one. Just like, ah, you think it's going to be a happy ending? No, no, no, never. No, not at all. Not at all. Yeah. And I mean, even with Space, like it did a little bit of a depressing ending, but it had a good ending, you know, at the end. But yeah, um not this one. I I think the the last few years I uh I've been going through because I was thinking about this the other day actually. You went through a pretty similar thing. This was around 2018 2017 2018 when you had identity crisis is way more than what it was but you kind of like had a little freak out for a second. This was around like the barrel videos and the van videos where you were like, I don't really know what I want to be doing, but I want to be doing something bigger. That's kind of how I've been feeling the last couple of years where I'm like, I don't know what I want to be doing, but I know that I want to be doing something more, but I just don't know what that is yet. Um, and I think that I feel like a lot of people go through that in their late 20s where it's like, oh man, I'm not a child anymore and got to make your own fun. Yeah, I feel this pressure to be like, "Oh, okay. I need to enter my 30s with like a clear vision of like what I want to be doing." Um, yeah, I think with it, you know, I think naturally it just gravitates you towards positions of responsibility. I think that's what it that's at least for me what I realized is like over a long period of time the craving that I had to expand what I did was more to enable other people around me to be able to do what they wanted to do or at least as best as I could. Um and I think it's naturally happening because you have one of them's actually monitoring over there. One of them was watching. [laughter] Watching out for like two sec. Oh, I I thought you were pointing to me. I was no no sorry not not you. I'm so sorry. I was just like I wasn't paying attention. No, it's it's like your your circle starts to expand because like to do anything beyond what one person can physically do is like you have to start bringing in other creatives and that's a difficult thing to do. Um but it's also it's it's a natural progression. Like I'm getting older and I'm not going to be able to yell at video games forever. So I need [laughter] to be able to pass on my genius to the others around me and they can bask in my [clears throat] glory until I die and then they can make let's plays but never as good as me. Are you are you training people up to make let's plays since when? Well, whatever they want to do. You haven't seen the whole like conveyor belt thing and [laughter] coming through and they're just they're starting to get a little cramped in Yeah. But they they'll get some good FNAF videos up soon. Man, I miss making let's plays. I'm going to be honest. Didn't you do one recently again? Uh I recorded one recently and I had so much fun and I was like I have this weird thing currently where I have this like weird pressure it almost seems like that I put on myself that I like uploads now have to be a bigger thing and like a more special thing and I'm like why can't I just put out [ __ ] I miss it. That's what I do. No, legitimately when I was when I was just for that brief window of time where I was like, I'm getting back into it. I'm playing Silent Hill. I'm I'm recording these random videos. I'm like, "This feels great." When I got back into that rhythm, it felt like like an organ woke up in me that no one knows what that feels [laughter] like. What the [ __ ] does that even mean? You know, when an organ wakes up in you, you know what you're like, "Oh, I got that new organ that they were talking about, the mentary or whatever that is." Anyway, it's Is there a new organ? There's a new They Well, it's not a new organ for us. Organ [laughter] [gasps] But it's It felt like I grew my phantom limb back or something like that. It felt like I was me again. And that's what a lot of what I've had to deal with thus far is not like I'm working with a lot of constraints uh on the end of this project because doing a movie is a very big endeavor. And people say that I can't do it alone, but I know a lot of the pieces of it now. And I think that the next time I do this, I'm going to do a lot of the parts. Me, even though people the people on the team are looking at me like, "You already took on all the parts for yourself and you really shouldn't have done that." I'm like, "I know, but I'm really I'm really egotistical about it." Yeah. But there's something about that. And I think it's just like a to make a generalization, it's a little bit of a YouTuber thing where it's like, "No, I know how to do the stuff." And but there's a lot of YouTubers that don't. That's so true. That's true. You surp You You guys both surprise people when you actually know what you're talking about. That's what I see. Yeah, that is true. Actually, there Okay, listen. Listen. This isn't to [ __ ] on streamers at all. Streamers are so great. [laughter] Listen. Okay, I'm going to say something and you can put this wherever you want. I don't even [ __ ] care anymore. Okay, listen to me. You co happened, right? Everyone was at home. they were streaming and huge audiences were made. But guess what happens when you get successful and then you're like, "Oh, I have this big streaming platform. I should naturally go over to YouTube." And then it's like, "Well, who knows how to edit? I have to hire somebody and nobody knows how to do [ __ ] [ __ ] anymore. Nobody knows how to make their own thumbnails. Nobody knows how to edit anymore." And I'm talking to all of you streamers who blew UP DURING CO. WHY DON'T YOU [ __ ] learn how to edit for once? You don't have to hand everything off and then it's great because you have a thing that you need to do last minute or somebody does something and then it's shitty. Then you can just be like, "Well, I know how to fix this." But no one knows how to do anything anymore. Mark, I saw your video with Smosh and I know some of them might have been playing it up. I I think there was a lot of maybe maybe but it's uh even though I disavow everything he says and I'm good with you streamers, you can always rely on me to be on your side. Yes. Uh, but wait, don't cut away just yet. No, no, no. Please bring it back to me. Uh, I forgotten what I was going to say, but smash. Right. I do think that that is something that a lot of people need to recognize because what happens is just like what you say is not only are they not able to fix the problems, they don't recognize the problems because they don't know how the sauce was made and they can't communicate. They can't speak to the editors like an editor needs to know information because they don't know what they're asking for. And so that leads to inefficiencies. It's not even so much of like, oh, you should do this because you should be able to do it yourself. You should be proud of the art that you make or but not everyone can be multi-disiplinary. Um, but you should at least know the basics so that you can build those relationships and not have them constantly talk [ __ ] about you behind your back. And as a guy who no one has ever talked [ __ ] about me behind my back and I would never talk [ __ ] about you behind yours as that guy that I just said that I was the conclusion that I was going to say that I didn't forget. Yes. Yes. No. And I'm not I I do think that that is an important thing if you're specifically in a in a creative space. Like I think it's really important to know these other aspects at least a little bit. And I'm not [ __ ] on all the streamers. I'm just saying that everyone should know if they're in this space how to edit a little bit because then you can properly communicate and at the end of the day make better stuff. This is exactly why you were saying is true with Unison not being easily replicatable and people could but yes it would be compared to this is if we didn't both know how to edit and picked up videos and Amy picked up videos and was conjuring up the ideas for the videos while we were able to we took a bunch of improv classes before that we had the skills to be able to do all of this thumbnail metadata planning logistics camera all of it was done by us if this was a TV show doing daily content like these 15 to sometimes 40 minute why were some of those 40 minutes yeah some of them some of them were way too long yeah uh but I mean they were good but it it it's difficult it's extremely difficult to expect that many different skills coming in there and that's why I say that YouTube is a really good place because it forces you if you're starting off from nothing it forces you to meet the challenge that is put in front of you and Tik Tok makes the barrier to entry e easy and I'm not [ __ ] on Tik Tok like like Ethan shed on streamers I'm not going to do that to you. Absolutely not. [laughter] But with I love this because because it's just [laughter] [gasps] because obviously we're jokes and goofing and haha but it's just like no listen my friend here that I'm throwing under [laughter] the bus. [ __ ] that guy. I'd never do that to you. Never. I'm pure of heart. I got a thing. I got a thing happening that I got to get people into on and I need everyone to be happy with me. The drama can explode after after the thing that is I'm trying to wrote people into. I haven't guilted him yet. Which I will move on to that. Oh, I've got the dirt. I've got so much dirt. You do? So many people. Do you? No, not that much. We got a couple bangers. I [laughter] don't know. We got a couple of things that we sit on. We have a couple insect stories. Yeah. [clears throat] Just for a rainy day. When you get bored. [laughter] No, it's it's all like not all of it, but it's like most of it is harmless stuff. Like, you know, I know exactly. [laughter] It's really funny, but it's not worth the Bush. It's not worth Mark sticking his hand into the B. It's not worth the Bush. I know exactly what you're talking about. And you're never going to know unless the stars align. to outlive any everybody and then 80 years from now I'll get on a live 70 years from now get on a live [laughter] stream about it you know I remember but I I do think now cuz you get the question all the time of like how do you start to become a YouTuber or whatever blah blah blah blah blah because it used to be that you had to and now you don't necessarily if you want to make things on YouTube or you want to be in a creative face with video at all. Learn how to edit. That is my number one tip. Don't get a cool Don't spend all your money on a camera. Don't spend on blah blah blah. Learn how to edit like that. It is such a good skill because then you can do everything yourself if you have to. But you also can just communicate better. And the people that I have seen like younger, newer creators who have made the successful transition from like, "Oh, I had a couple viral Tik Toks into like a YouTube career or any kind of sustainable online career." Always edit their own stuff because people like the videos and they come back to them and all the comments will be like, "This editing is so unique, right?" Absolutely. You create this I think if you're using all the prefab stuff, you're never going to develop your own style. Yeah. You know, on like Tik Tok, I see it all the time now. Maybe it's just because of what I watch, but I see edits and then people talking about the edits being like, "This edit was the best. This edit was the best. No, this edit." And they're like, "This wasn't as good as this edit." And people literally respect the studios are paying for them now. The studios are hiring people off TikTok to make fan edits because that's where the marketing is now. Exactly. Yeah. Clip editors, like people do that's that is a whole secondary market to content creation that I have never talked about really and is like quietly not acknowledged by a lot of YouTubers. Uh, it's not something that I do. Uh, but man, clip editing. Clip clipping. I [ __ ] hate it. I hate [laughter] it. I hate it so much. But it's not going to make me make my own clips. It's just I'm not going to do it. Everybody's always like, "Oh, you got to put out shorts. You got to put out Tik Tok." I HATE IT. NO, IT'S NOT EVEN THAT. I DON'T WANT TO DO IT. It's not just about that. It is paying other like now it's companies, but it's like groups of editors to organically unofficial official clip your things and place them everywhere. if you didn't know, that is a extremely big business. So, if you still use Twitter, like I unfortunately do sometimes, and you get these this [ __ ] in your feed and you're like, why does the same goddamn streamer that I've never heard of keep coming up? It's like and I guess the viewbot stuff has come out now, so maybe that's all slightly different, but like that is the game is like getting into the mud of it. Yeah, it is. There's there's a lot of mud. There was a lot of mud when I first started. There was always going to be mud, but it's [laughter] what? Who knew it was so muddy? Listen, when I started, there was mud everywhere. The walls caked in mud. I didn't realize at first. I was I was climbing out of a silo filled [laughter] with mud. Sorry. [laughter] There was mud. There was mud, right? Mud. Uh, but I had a point before I started talking about the editing. Editing is an extremely valuable skill. Even if I'm saying like this is my that's a career. I don't fault anybody for hustling to make a living like and editing especially in today's age like uh AI video might you know take over all of this and it'll be irrelevant because you go like make me a movie with boobs and guns and World War II and you're going to you're going to watch that and be like that was great. I loved that. I felt a real human connection when I watched this. I feel like a more of a person, more of a well-rounded person because I experienced this. Really grinds my gears. What? Which part? All of it. [laughter] Which part? Well, so there was a thing recently. I don't know outside of LA how big it was. The like AI actress. Oh yeah, Mark doesn't know about this. I don't remember what what the name of it was, but it's stupid because it's What's the point? I agree. What's the point? I agree. You tell me. Yeah, you tell me. Anyway, um yeah, you're almost done though. With what? Wait, what? Wait, what? No, you're almost done with your big movie, Mark. Oh, yes, yes, yes. You can take a breath. I would love to take a breath. It has not been possible to take a breath for a while. I am not going to lie. It's not just because like I've been doing this a while. It is the amount of things that have piled up are pretty overwhelming. Like I mean the past couple weeks have been tough because it's hard not to wake up and cry uh from losing Henry. Um and going to bed is just hard because it's quiet. Uh and then on top of that, the work doesn't stop. It just doesn't. And I've I've taken some time. I mean, you know, obviously how how hard it's been for both of us. And it's been really really really hard. And all all I want to do though is to finish it. I I want to experience the relief of knowing that I overcame all of these obstacles and was able to conjure up something that was worthy of the time that was sacrificed to make it. that's kind of what Unison was all about. Make it worthy of the sacrifice. And I I think that something that I'm sure people in the comments are saying right now, and this is not a judgmental thing, but there is a very very very very big difference, one that I don't even know, between making something for YouTube and making a feature film because I'm sure that there are so many people that are right now being like, "Mark, the movie can wait. Just take a break." But like it the movie is so much bigger than yourself. It's like no like I have all of these deadlines that I have to hit. Like I don't there is not really a choice here. So it's like yes I will rest once this is done but I I have to finish this. And that isn't even like a unique and that's why it's interesting to talk about I think especially like with like what you're saying you know it's like that's why I was so excited to do this because it's so strange to to go through grief like that and it's like it's like this tight rope where you're like okay I have to stare at work because it's the only thing that feels familiar and sane and you know what I mean I you can only be physically sad for so long and your brain needs something else. So like it's like both I have we have to do this movie because it's the only thing holding us together and also I have when you lose like when you go through grief it's like there's no point to doing any of this right and it's like I don't it feels like every day we're holding both these things in our hand of like this is the most important pointless thing [laughter] in the whole world it's the most important pointless thing and and that would that would happen a lot like this just like a week ago it seems so strange now but I would I would be driving onto the Warner Brothers lot to do this final Don't get lose chat. We might have There were some Hold on. Hold on. uh There were some Fs, but I don't I don't know if Fs are just people spamming or they just doing Sorry, I might have gotten got. They might have pranked me. [snorts] I might have gotten pranked. It's back. Wait, somebody said it's back. Oh, it's back. Oh, back. I don't know. I didn't see any interruption. There's just as many E's as Fs, so it's sort of hard [laughter] to tell. Look. Uh, so I was I was, you know, I would I would wake up just be absolutely miserable and being get in the my big truck and just sitting tiny in my big seat. Have you even talked about your big truck? I haven't talked much about it. I have a truck. Mark has a truck. I have a truck. And he uses it. I love that truck. Who would have thought? It's got a big truck. It's an electric truck. Not a cyber [laughter] Not a cyber truck. I need to get rid of my dumbass car. Push it down. But you're in the [laughter] Elon Club. I am. I did buy that sticker. Listen. Listen, I did buy that [ __ ] I'm so lucky I sold [laughter] that. I wouldn't say lucky. I was still a big Oh, big loss. But the timing was great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Before a certain heart went out to certain people. [laughter] Wade made heart went out [laughter] to certain people. So funny. Wade made such good jokes. Okay, for those of you that are hunting for content and you have not been watching slash listening to Distractable, we have put out some in in the year where it's like no time some [ __ ] hilarious episodes. Oh my god. If you have like this is not a plug for Distractable, but it's like that has been so You can plug Distractable. Why not? Well, that's the one thing that you are keeping up with even when YouTube slept. It's like you do those Tuesdays. I've been doing that because I'm contractually obligated to [laughter] do it for one. the the love of the podcast, but it has been grounding. It feels kind of unison, but instead of us by our own sheer will, I have a corporation holding [laughter] a contract gun to my head. And so, uh, that I love. I feel [laughter] like it's not, okay, this is kind of morbid, but it's not even like a normal gun that they're holding to your head. It's like those gun that those guns that they kill cattle with. I [laughter] thought it was I thought it was going to be a money gun. I thought you say that. You know, it's way worse than [laughter] that. Yeah. But honestly, truly, it has been so grounding to be able to do that podcast regularly and and my friends have been so accommodating and it's not just like distractable. Go. My favorite sports team also has been continuing. Tyler has been such a sweetheart in terms of conjuring up those episodes. Bob and Wade have done okay. [laughter] No, I'm just kidding. The like, but all of the onus is on Tyler. I don't come up with [ __ ] for for go. He he he leads the charge with that. at least distractably shared responsibility. It's been so grounding and so heartwarming that like I've been able to do that and they have been so there for me in terms of the craziness of the schedule and adjusting it. Constant cancellations, last minute moves to things. They've just been so good about that and just oh man, not every episode's banker, but a vast majority are just like gut busting laugh. Like the one when you're in the tub. Oh, I saw a clip of that go around yesterday when the water Did you turn the water on? Okay, I'm going to say something really funny. Okay, I'm ready. Wait, I'm ready, Mark. [laughter] Okay, ready. You have and I just It's something that I love so much about you. So much. You have so much goddamn money. You have unathable [laughter] an unfathomable amount of money. And it's so great seeing you record a podcast [laughter] in a [ __ ] tub. It's so funny. It's so funny. You have so much money. You [laughter] record a podcast in a tub. You record a podcast with a [ __ ] like bicycles behind you in a weird garage. [laughter] I love your It's so funny. Are we going to be in a mansion recording? No, it's it's just the the contrast is so great. I love it [snorts] so much. It's so funny. It reminds me of like the thing that we talk about this sort of stuff sometimes. Because okay, in theory, sure, when you would go to Austin and we'd work on these projects and you need to do podcasts. Sure, we could have rented a studio somewhere hourly or, you know, you could have done that. It also it makes it No, it [laughter] No, no, no. It makes me think you could have thought. It makes me think of like when people talk about like uh oh, if I had a bunch of money, I would hire someone to cook for me every day. I'd have some I', you know, have some I'd outsource all of my all of my chores. Yeah. Yeah, but we talk about that sort of stuff sometimes and it's like, yeah, but would you actually want to live that way? That doesn't sound that sounds like a somebody coming to my house in the morning to cook me breakfast. That actually sounds horrible. Looking at my sink full of plates that I haven't put in the dishwasher. I don't want them to see that. [laughter] My plates. I made that mess. It kind of goes back to the thing about being self-sufficient with editing, though. It's like, okay, well, in the scenario, okay, maybe the tub is not a [laughter] good example, but you're like, you know enough about audio and enough about how this thing is made that you know [laughter] what is good enough. The audio is better. The top is probably not a great example cuz audio was Let me tell you, there was no other option in that Airbnb. They're legit. It was one of those hyper modern no carpets. It was one of those Austin flat walls echo for weirdly the bathroom had the most like curved and and also cornered surfaces so it broke up the sound the best out of the worst scenario. So funny. [laughter] That's so good. It's so funny. I'm glad that makes you laugh. It makes me giggle. Yeah. No, I just I can't imagine not at least cooking. I mean, I order a lot of food. We I go to restaurants on occasion, but I get they I was at Warner Brothers again and they were like, "Hey, maybe it's last day and we were like, "Hey, what if we Cuz they Warner Brothers has a really nice cafeteria on on on studio, not even on set on on campus." Uh that's like a long walk across [clears throat] it. Um but it it's nice. And then they asked me the only thing special for the last day and I said Chipotle' be great. [laughter] They just [ __ ] they laugh. I didn't see him. This is okay. All right. [laughter] That's fine. I guess you didn't ask for Cracker Barrel. Well, Cracker Barrel's too far away. I'm not going to ask. Well, that's a special request. They looked at me like you know what's funny though is it's Warner Brothers. So, if you were like, I'd love Cracker Barrel. They probably would send somebody to drive 5 hours to go get it. No. Yeah, it is. It is kind of that culture there. Like every morning I would get in there and there would this beautiful cut plate of fruit and there was these pickled vegetables that was great like carrots and and cauliflower and celery and it was just pickled in a way that was unbelievably sour. I loved it. Like punch you in the face kind of taste to it. And I was like, "Wow, did this come from a what? Where'd you buy this?" And like, "We made it." And I'm like, "Can I have the recipe?" And I was like, "Well, I didn't make [laughter] Hey, tell me. I want to make I want it. I want to." I don't think they could even fathom like someone just asking for [laughter] the recipe for these pickled vegetables. And I'm just like, "Did you get them?" No. I should follow up about that. You should [laughter] follow up warning about the pictures, Mr. Warren. Circling back to the pictures. Circle back on those pictures. Man, it's going to be so nice when you don't have to circle back about Iron Lunk stuff. It will be so nice to just be like, it's out and the people. Are you scared you're going to freak out? Are you scared you're gonna the freedom? I Okay, my If you're asking what's happened [laughter] over the last 5 years for everyone else, I've learned that I really struggle with absolute freedom. It's really bad for me. I need some guard rails in my life. I need some bumpers. But I feel like you've been on a track for long enough. I don't know. I'm so curious. Oh, the track feels like it's just doing all of this all the time. Um, and I'll I'm learning as I go and I am grateful for all the people that I'm working with that have been very gracious in terms of my failings of that. But sometimes I feel like they're holding things back from me that if they told me keep me secret. And if they told me a little sooner, I wouldn't have [ __ ] up so much stuff. I didn't realize how bad AFS were. This is going to mean nothing to anybody. Okay, I need to translate the Tabula Rasa, right? No, not that. What's the other one? Tabula Rosa is like a clean slate. Rosetta Stone. not Tabula Rasha, but Rosetta Stone, right? So, it's got translations, right? So AAF is like going from the top translation through the middle one to go to the bottom one, right? It starts here where it's nice and clean in my project. Tornado AF goes then it gets pulled in all squishy and wet into ProTools. [laughter] It's all wrong and things that I rettimed are off and it retimes things randomly for me. And it doesn't copy the raw files. It just makes new files because it feels like it names them this file F. Why does it got to go to ProTools? Cuz that's what Brad mixes in. Why doesn't Brad do it in Fairite? Cuz the [ __ ] ProTools [snorts] is the industry standard. And if you try but so is Avid still for some [ __ ] reason. Yeah, that that I don't get. But the same company that makes ProTools, so you know, they kind of get the run of the show, I guess, if you're going to build all your infrastructure. Cut to the wide. Look, it doesn't matter. Tired of looking at all this jumbling over there. I just keep it here for a bit. Keep it here for a bit. So tired, Amy. Huh? [laughter] Don't put it on me, though. All right. Anyway, it's exhausting seeing that flash. Look, none of that matters. It's It's difficult. I'm learning pieces of the process. They didn't tell me that it was messing up. They didn't tell me that if I disabled clips on the audio that it would still get to them. So, the way I edited, I had a lot of options that are disabled. So they would get things and it would be like six lines from different takes stacked in a row and they wouldn't say anything. [laughter] They would take it like must have been what he meant. All right. Like the music will be so wrong. It'll be all over the place. They'll be like, "All right, let's go, baby." Yeah. And do you not get offended because I [laughter] get offended because I know that I'm a [ __ ] idiot. It's like, "No, I didn't KNOW THAT IT WAS COMING THROUGH WRONG." SO I SAID, AND you were there for that, is like, I'll just get ProTools and I will put it into ProTools for you. And they were like, "Oh, that'd be great." How's that going? That's fine. Oh, okay. There you go. I mean, I don't really know it that well, but I'll figure it [laughter] out. Yeah. And that's what it's all about. You just got to figure it out. You just got to figure it out. I mean, what are what Tell me what Tell me about your years. Should I have to? [laughter] We've been going around in this circle talking about I don't know. I don't know the years both getting roped into and also roping myself into things. I don't know. I've always been sort of like fill the gaps that you see, you know, a little bit. And turns out there's just infinite making a movie takes infinite. When living with me, there's a lot of gaps that I don't see. And thankfully Amy sees a lot of them. And even if she doesn't want to jump in there and fill the app, it's like at least she'll let me know about the [laughter] like anyone has anyone thought about this thing? Has anyone considered that someone's going to set this thing up? And if there's if we don't know anybody to set it up, I either find the person who can do it or I learn to do it myself. I feel like and that's why I think like in the past, like for me, I've never had any kind of issue. I mean, especially now that we're married, like with people being like, "Oh, is it hard to be like known as like just like through my association with you and to me it's like no, because I wouldn't know those people to begin with if I didn't know you." [laughter] So, it's sort of a sort of a wash in that regard. And and it doesn't I don't know like I get so anxious in front of cameras anyway. It's never been my place to begin with. But, I do really enjoy the creative process and like working with our friends is like the coolest thing in the whole world. And I think there was a time where I was really like, okay, I need to like branch out and, you know, learn all my own own stuff and do something totally different, right? Like even like, oh, I'm just going to work at a coffee shop. Like, I'm just I got to get out. I got to do something totally different, right? [clears throat] Um, but then I'd find that, and you'll vouch for this because you know how it goes, is like I'd be like, "Okay, maybe I'll like learn this thing." you know, it'll be like 3D scanning or or all the interactive stuff I'm doing now, like whatever the topic is and I'll start learning about it and you'll see that I'm doing it. You're like, "That's really cool." And then you'll buy all this expensive equipment for it. And then it's immediately like, "Well, now we have all this equipment." It's like, "Well, how could we we could apply this to all these like workplier related [laughter] things, right?" And I think like, "Oh, but you could totally use this." Like, you know, the the short throw projector of mine that I'm doing this on is like stuff like that. It's I don't know. I just keep I keep having ideas for things so I can't [laughter] get away. You're talking like if you had just even one more day to plan this, you could have put your face wizard style here like swirling in the background and it would not have been that. Oh, and I could just doing a whole board. I'd turn red when I'm angry. And again, anybody out there like learn stuff. It's so fun learning [ __ ] It is. I don't know. It's so gratifying and when you can actually do something, when you start to figure things out on your own, it's so nice. I've been learning piano recently and it's been so nice and like oddly emotional for some reason. But like just sitting down and like learning something new has been so wonderful. It's been so so cool. That's sort of things what I tried to do. It was sort of my intention once we found out that Henry was sick because I was like, "Okay, I like we are all all three of us crazy dog people." Like, we just are. [laughter] And so I know that so much of my own identity is like poured into this dog, right? Like I just when I view myself, it was like I see myself reflected like back from him, But I knew once he got sick that, you know, it was like, "Oh god, how am I after I'm through all this? I'm going to have nothing." You know what I mean? I felt like, "Oh god, what am I going to hold on to?" And so I do think I spent the last year being like you got to find something you're you got to remember like what you were passionate about to begin with and learn some [ __ ] and [clears throat] push in some direction so that when it does get bad like you'll just have something to focus on. And I do think I think I feel like I've done a decent job of that because I do think like those things are kind of keeping me stable right now. Absolutely. I I don't know if this is true, so let me know if this isn't. But before I was like was talking about how, you know, you guys have so much going on and it's like, okay, the I can't stop right now cuz I have to finish this movie. But does it kind of some days feel like less of a and I'm talking broader spectrum here less of a half I have to do this and it's like no I need to do this thing. Uh man that is kind of a thing. Uh but the problem is when it goes to an I need there's a lot less motivation in an I need versus an I want. like I need to exercise more. I don't want to show [laughter] like if I always chase the feeling that I had when I first started YouTube where I was so so excited every morning, wake up, leap out of bed, ready to work at And let me tell you, I do not leap out of bed. Not these days. Uh even before Henry passed, like leaping out of bed was not really how I was vibing. occasionally, every once in a while. Um, but when you're three years into a project that probably should have been done a long time ago, if a million other things weren't all happening at the exact same time, then yeah, it's really it's really hard. It is. It is hard, but I do need to. And so, that still does push me. And I want to like I but I have to remind myself that I want to. Yeah. And I'm When I say need, I kind of It's kind of interchangeable with want. It's like I have to do this thing for myself and there's this this kind of drive inside to like okay yes I I do need to I have to hit these deadlines or whatever but I also need to do this to kind of keep myself going I guess. Yeah, I think so. I mean I put so much of myself into the the creative endeavors that I do that you know it's hard for me sometimes to separate who I am from what they are. Um and that could be extremely unhealthy. I'm I'm aware uh and to many many many you know credit goes to Amy in terms of pulling me back from throwing myself entirely to the meat mincer that is just content generation because it is I've always say it's like you you you squeeze some of yourself out to make content in or make art in any form. You you you bleed yourself to make it um and eventually you run out of blood. You need to live more experience to be able to do that. So, I've been trying to walk that balance and like Amy has always been such a great balance for that because being reminded of just the things that I take for granted in the things that I miss from not paying attention to them, you know, it's they they do weigh and they they eat up a lot and uh it just means, you know, it just means again there's not enough time to do everything. There never is going to be and there never will be and it's not going to be perfect, but you just still got to do your best, I suppose. Yeah. What are you guys What are you guys excited about other than the movie being done? No, I'm excited for people to see it. I'm I'm excited. I am really excited and the the the the kind of marketing ideas that we have for it are are coming together and I'm I'm super excited to uh actually do the thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The jumping from the plane like the Red Bull guy but higher. Some of the views are higher. That's how you should pitch to YouTube. You should see if you can get a meeting with YouTube and be like, "Guys, I got an idea." [laughter] I You like this guy? What about me? What about this guy? Huh? Hey, [laughter] no, it's going to be it's going to be really fun once it comes out. And I think that's important to people watching, too. not just with us, but with anybody that you watch. Like with YouTube, it's now becoming like a little bit more mainstream, I guess, or whatever. But in this case, it's still very much like independent art, you know, and that's very important. And that's why like you should support people like support artists who are making stuff and especially making stuff for the right reasons, you know. M um so once once the movie comes out, make sure you go and see the movie. Bring your friends. You're swinging with it. I mean, that's what I'm excited about because I feel like there's been a there's been I mean, back when you announced there's a lot of chatter like if it was even a concept that could be pulled off or anything. And it's funny cuz the concerns that people have are very much the opposite of the concerns that we had [laughter] making it. Things that people like, how are they going to do that? We're like, that is not the problem actually at all. Um I keep losing my focus. Sorry. No, no, [laughter] no, no. It's all good. We're just exhausted. I kind of want to read. You…

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