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and the world. A tale of dudes and souls eternally retold. We don't need to shine to see how far we come on our journey. How far to go? Searching for heart. spend the night in my heart for that special life to show me with love to shower me with power. Got to get the edge of car on the baby. Got to get the edge of to carry. Yo, what's up, dudes? All right, Chad, we're back. Hello. Uh, things happened this week. Yeah. Uh, Simmons, you getting a Neo Geo? A Neo Geo? Yeah, they they pretty much announced the Neo Geo pricing. Oh, the PS5 Pro. PS5 Pro. Oh my god. Oh my god, dude. I tweet. No, I said that. I'm like, we warned you and warned you. We warned people multiple times last year. Multiple times. Multiple times. We said, "Get it now. Get it now. Get it now. Get it now. Get it." Ste, you can still get it right now. Yeah. Like gone, gone. Oh, yeah. Everywhere that had it, it's gone. Gone. And then a lot of stores already just jacked the price up to the April 2nd prices any early. Just if a place does have it, apparently, it's already up to the new prices. That's crazy. I know. That's crazy. The PS5 Pros are selling right now. Well, because they're going to like like again, they're going to become worth even more later. Like, they're going to become even more valuable down the [ __ ] line. So, I mean, that's nuts, dude. Everything went up. Like, our PlayStation 5 is $600. Well, yeah. That's the [ __ ] one. The dick the dick drive is 650 now. Yeah. There's 150 more than when we bought it 5 years ago. And here, you know, I have a tweet. I think I'm like like I've been tweeting a bunch, but like I'm like I remember when [ __ ] consoles used to get cheaper as the time would go on. That's how it's always been. Yeah. You know, it's like, oh, a few years a console gets cheaper. Oh, you live in wacky land. The financial reality of the situations is that companies used to have to get people on their side, right? So what they would do was early adoption rates, they would lose a [ __ ] ton of money on the systems. And the idea was that they're going to make it up in software sales, which is, you know, nowadays they're making hand over fist more money in software sales than ever before because there's no distribution costs, right? It's literally just on PSN. Yeah. Anything digital is like 100% to them. Yeah. It's like digital, they just get nothing but the profit pretty much. So, it's weird how it's like they're making even more money than they ever have on the majority of this [ __ ] And it's still getting more expensive. It's still getting way way way way way more expensive, you know? Yesesh, man. Honestly, the best thing, my honest thing is, the best thing to do right now is dig in. If you if you've got a PS5 and a Switch 2, dig in. Just dig in. Just dig in. Don't buy more stuff. If you've got a reasonable PC right now, bro, I just dig in. I told somebody, don't give them the benefit of the doubt because here's what's gonna happen. RAM is like four times what it used to cost. It's about to be cheap. It's It's going cheaper now. Ram tanks. But here's my thing. Ram gets four times more expensive, right? Now they cut that four time in half so that it's now two times as expensive as it used to be. And then you think, "What a great deal. Rams gone down so much, but it's still two times what it was before all the BS started happening. So, they're winning still. Did you see what happened literally over the past 24 hours for Ram? I can't say that I did, but I said this two days ago there. The Ram as four times is going to massively drop in price to two times. And then you're going to think it's dropped so much. Let me grab some. I think it's about to be way less than two times because all the big AI companies as this technology has developed and evolved realize we don't need any RAM. M so they the RAM companies are likely about to go out of business like correct me if I'm wrong here chat as things have happened over the past like day or two. Um pretty much it seems like they don't actually need RAM they need SSDs. So they have been like effectively committing the world to absorbing all of the world's RAM for like the near future. So all RAM creation and distribution is going to go directly to AI. It was all bought for. However, it was bought for with funny money that didn't exist yet for a product that didn't exist yet. And now all of that distribution has already happened, but now they don't need it. So, they canceled all of it. There's been mass cancellation for RAM. They they just don't need it anymore. Because I remember there was one of the main RAM suppliers was like, we're just stopping consumer RAM. We're just only going to sell corporate RAM pretty much. And now those companies are likely going to have to shift to SSDs because now SSDs are what they're asking for. They need they need even more SSDs. So now hard drives are about to become insanely I thought they already spiked a little bit. A little bit not as less not nearly as much as RAM because RAM was the the hot commodity. Right, Chad? Is this Am I Am I summarizing what's kind of happened? Um OpenAI couldn't secure it $600 billion and they backed out. Well, I know they canled Sora and then Disney backed out of their billion dollar deal with it. Best news of the week. Yeah, that was nice. I remember that. But I don't know. I don't know about anything beyond that happening. Cuz to me, I was like, I hope this is the straw that breaks the camel's back, you know, and causes all the other mass, you know, you know what, maybe. So, we don't know where things are going right now, much less any of the entertainment industry, the hardware business. Like, nobody knows where anything's going. Um, it doesn't make any sense. It almost seemed like Sony was getting ahead of the curb to up the prices of the systems. Well, Sony upped their prices last year and then Microsoft was super crazy and they twice twice in the 2025 calendar the Xboxes went up. Yep. And people thought, "Wow, I'm like they're they're dunzo. They're done." I'm like, "They're probably going to have to go up again." Sony, this is now Sony's second PS5 increase now. Microsoft just did it faster, quicker. Sony's here's their second price. Well, and it's it's because the uh the PlayStations are like I guess they just made way more of them. So they they were like, "Okay, so we have like a a fort of PlayStations we've already made for distribution, right? So we do not need to increase the price on those." But as soon as we begin new hardware distribution, that's it. They're going up. So, I mean, I'm assuming honestly I think the only one who's in that position is Nintendo cuz they made a boatload of Switch Dudes and there's a boatload that haven't sold yet and they have they have not in curious and Nintendo's doing they did the same they did I don't know if you saw that digital thing that happened with them what they announced this week and that is thank you digital games will be $10 cheaper than physical going forward for Switch 2. So Nintendo's doing everything in its power to sort of mitigate not making the Switch 2 go up. Like they're they're trying really hard not to do, but I I they will get they might have to get into they might get bullied into it. It wasn't that physical got more expensive. Digital just got cheaper. Or is it that's the nice way of looking at it cuz here's to look at it in a broad scope of things. Mario Kart World is $8, right? And then they backed away from that. They didn't do anything after that. They was like, "Oh, 80. People really don't like that." The only thing that's 80 is like say Breath or Tears at 80 for the Switch 2 edition or whatever, So, they didn't really do an $80 game after Worlds things were 70, And they did these key cards which are just, you know, a line of code on on a piece of plastic, yada yada. And then now they're saying, well, starting with Yoshi in the Amazing Book, which is basically an edutainment title. I don't know if you've seen that. Uh, they're like, "That'll be 60 digital, 70 retail." Now, that sounds great. That Yoshi game looks like a $20 game. Like that. Like there are $20 Steam games use similar art style and cost way less. Close to Yoshi's Woolly Butthole. Yeah. Visuals. Yeah. Like something like that. Like re It does not look like a 60, let alone $70 game. Yeah. They're doing this on purpose because when you get to Fire Emblem and Dusk Bloods and, you know, an Ocarina remake and possibly a brand new Star Fox, all this jazz, when you get to those big games, it's going to be 70 digital 80 retail. They're doing this in my mind, they're doing this as a soft launch of normalizing $80 retail. So, are we saying that no other Switch games that were new Switch games like Donkey Kong wasn't 80? No, it was 70. Okay, it was 70. So, the only game that they got you was their their super greedy launch game Mario Kart, which they were offering for $50 if you bought a bundle, which was kind of like, cool, that game is worth not a cent more than 50 personally. Whatever. Scoot. So, so I think this is all just their sort of soft launch ploy. Steve, get you normalized to 80. How happy are you that you took our advice fourish months ago or some [ __ ] For what? buy a PS5 Pro. Um, I You're not feeling good. Oh, your voice is shot from last night. Shot. What? But that's fine. I I can still talk. Let's get him a microphone. What' you do with your old PS5? Uh, I still got it. So, yeah, I haven't even plugged it in yet. Yeah, I haven't even installed Well, no, you have your old Oh, you haven't installed in Are you going to going to just have two PS5s? Oh, yeah. I'm upgrading all my my streaming gathering stuff. So, you should take You should definitely take your PS5 now. If you in you install your Pro, take your PS5 to a GameStop because they're now giving like a way more money for PS5s. It's still not enough though. Like if I go to eBay, I probably get way more. I mean, but even on eBay, they're about to be worth even more. A lot. Even more. Yeah, that I mean, we knew this was happening. Everybody knew this was happening. And yet, the people that are waited are now in trouble. So, but no, they still got time. It's until April something. There's a couple days, but all the PS5 pros are sold out now. Yeah. If you can find it. If you can find it. Yeah. It's already happened. Like in in one way we were warning people about this. The system's going to sell out because of either price increase or GTA. Yeah. Like one of the two things is going to happen and you know one one happened. It happened. You grabbed the last pro at Target today. I mean if you're looking forward to Grand Theft Auto, dude, even though there's no direct confirmation of GTA having a PS5 Pro mode yet. I don't think there is, but it's almost guaranteed. It's the biggest game ever. Uh you made a pretty good decision. If you're looking forward to GTA 6, you made a pretty good decision. Hell, even crimson. Look at what I got from Evo chat. Crimson desert. Crimson. Is that Ryu and Akuma? Yeah, that's actually pretty cool. Evil evil or something like that. Turn around. Let me see something. Is that teasing some [ __ ] Maybe. I don't know. All right. No, that's Akuma. No, that's that's Rayu, dude. No, Ryu does not have that hair when he's evil Ryu, my dude. That's Akuma hair, bro. That's Akuma hair. Evil Ryu headband. This is the medium. Medium. I got the meteor. You got the medium. Shut up. Ryukuma, get the medium. Get the medium. Uh, so yeah, it's it's bad. Like I the craziest thing is that it's it's actually not as bad because I did a price comparison of a Neo Geo in like 19 Yeah. 91. 91. It was like a,000 bucks back then. Well, of what that costs to now. Yeah. And if we put it in today's money, it's $1,600. Yeah. $1,600 modern dollars was for a Neo Geo back in the 90s. Absolutely. So, the PS5 Pro is not the most expensive system ever. Well, the fact that the fact that it's that it's more than half of a Neo Geo in '90s money is Don't forget the PS4 craze when it first came out and everybody was paying way too much for it and everything and that's second that's a three that was a 3.99. They didn't charge for that. People did. People did. Um, you know what this is close to? It's not the exact same. This one's a little bit more. This is a PS3. This is a launch PS3. That was $5.99 in 2007 or six. Yeah. And uh that is about close to like $1,000. It's getting there, like a bit above 900. So if we compare it, this is actually comparable PS5 Pro to a PS3 launch, which was an astr [ __ ] nomical amount of money back in like, you know, the mid200. Yeah. What is what was what was 93? I believe the $700 Neo or C 3DIO. Oh, wow. 3Dio at 793. That was That's pretty bad. What's that? What What did that shake up? That must be somewhere close to $1,800 now. Solid stink. $1,800 for a [ __ ] 3dio and no games. Like, holy mother of God, dude. Your rich friend in the hills always got That's what Neo Geos were. It was like go to your rich friend's house who has a Neo Geo and they don't play it. Actually, Jaggard was not that expensive. It was like It was like $2.99. Yeah, it was like $300 and it didn't even last that long. It was a traditional price. Yeah, but the Neo Jail was just basically having an arcade cabinet. It was It was a [ __ ] arcade machine. Yeah, it was arcade. It was arcade machine with like portable, you know, big ass arcade board games. Um anyway, Avatar is coming out, dude. Yes. Simmons got Zahir. I can't believe I don't know how many dicks he had to suck. I JUST WILL NOT GO THERE. Um my my wrist is so sore, you know. I eat it, you know. But my throat is nice and moisturized, unlike his. Unlike his uh Simmons somehow got like his goated Avatar character in uh in Avatar LAUNCH LAUNCH. LIKE THEY COULD HAVE not DLC easily put Okay, the the two the two like shockers were Zahir and Koshi. Yeah, which Kyoshi's awesome, but I think this is bad news for Suki fans because they're similar. They're they do the same thing. Yeah, they're pretty similar. I was like the leader of the Koshi Warriors. So, I was like remind cuz it's been like the goddamn like 20 years since I've seen the show and I was like Suki and this character are pretty similar. They're like friends or some [ __ ] They do like the same thing. Well, like Kyoshi was the Avatar before Roku and the Kyoshi Warriors are all based off of her fan style. She's just a part of the crew, right? So, well, I mean, it's like Kyoshi died like hundreds of years before, you know, Suki. But the point is is that she is the the leader. She's the leader of the of the Koshi Warriors. So, it's like I don't know how you you you could you could is what fighting game developers do. Suki is going to end up being a Saka supporter. Probably because we haven't seen the support characters for those other characters yet. Probably Saka support, you know, him and you know, and who the hell will be Azula's support? Azulu will probably could be Tai Lee unfortunately which would be bad for the fandom but whatever you know thank you but it's probably going to be Tylee it's probably going to be Lower Lee one or the other and the other will go to Ozai Mai and Tyle okay I think I know who Mai is I'm trying to remember my Zuko support already so you know oh no she's already in it yeah she's the one girl with the the dark hair yeah the the the she throws knives but it's like Mai's already Zuko support Tyle is pretty could be likely you know, Azula's support. Lowly Azula should have no support fully solo. Yeah, fits her character. That would be that would be pretty hilarious. Uh but yeah, like I'm sure they'll figure it out. But yeah, like Zahir is obvious. It's just his three, you know, the other three of his gang are going to be his support. Duh. Like obvious I didn't see much of that. That was in season three. Three. Um I didn't see much of season two and three of Kora, but I do remember like he had like dudes. Yeah. Yeah, that was hanging out with like obviously they're going to be his At one point I'm like wait a minute is is is Zahir the guy that is like the Terminator Mr. X of of the season 1? No, this is from the Kora [ __ ] And I was like no no that was a different guy like the guy that covers themselves in rocks or some [ __ ] There's like a Terminator dude that comes after them in season in in season one, two or Oh, three of the original series there's Combustion Man. Combustion man. Yeah, this dude comes after Mr. put combustion like that guy never even got a name. HE NEVER EVEN HAD A NAME. Like I don't think he's going to be in the game, you know, beyond a support for someone cuz he's he doesn't even have a name. He doesn't even got that going for him. So I'm like he's probably not a playable. So but the other thing I'm like okay so this game is probably being made by fighting game fans who are probably [ __ ] Marvel heads. It is. So Zahir being a true air bender who can fly at will doesn't glide big flight. Okay, Magneto, he might have a try dash. There is no there's no way they didn't look at a character who can who can stand still in the air and fly naturally and go ah yes, let's not put the obvious Magneto Storm, you know, stand in there. Of course, that's to me that's as wise as Zahir is in the game because like I'm sure I'm sure the the NBC2 brain rot of fighting game devs is just too strong to be like we have a character who can do Magneto. We're not going to put a Magneto. YEAH, WE'RE PUT HIM IN. PUT HIM IN. WE GOT TO DO IT. IT'S too obvious. It's too Here is the one function of the game where it's like he functionally can do too much, you know? Yeah. I just hope well I hope they're able to go to go ham because so here's the character who murdered the Earth Queen by by bending the air out of her lungs. So I'm like oh please let that let that be his like level three or whatever his like full thing where he just like spooky he just chokes the life out of you. I'm like yes flag. Um so yeah like the fact that they dropped like all the characters and stuff like that it's just wow. Like I think putting the price point of 30 bucks for base game which is and cheaper cheaper in in other parts of the world regional pricing actual regional pricing which is super good and that is going to be I think that's a that is going to be a secret key to winning a huge player base for that game getting an international because okay if that game I've heard it I've heard it 20 in some markets 15 in some markets and I'm like this is how this is how you're going to win this how you're gonna win an international audience right yes full did it's crossplay play roll back net code and it's on [ __ ] everything. It's on Yeah. Switch one and switch. Switch one and switch two. Xbox X and S PC like play. The only oddball is the PS4 not being there. It's not on PS4. Yeah. Which is weird because there's a lot of PS4 people. Yeah, there are 90 million PS5s out there. But again, it's also on Steam. So any you got a Steam Deck, you got any of those portable PCs. Like I hate I hate to compare, but why the [ __ ] didn't 2X KO do this? Why the Cuz 2X KO wasn't ever going to be a full game. No. Yeah. Was it going to be a full release game ever? It was going to be a games as a service that like it was going to gradually become Yeah. gradually grow. Uh what was that though? Uh no, no. Multiverse. Multiveres. Well, yeah. But the only game that's done it successfully where it started off with six characters and became a super successful game was Killer Instinct. Multiverse. KI launched with six [ __ ] dude. No spinal, no foggore at launch. Okay. So, you're saying that Killer Instinct was never meant to be a full game either? Uh, no. The idea was that they were going to grow it. They created the season pass model. They created it. So, they were just going to keep adding characters as time went on. If it was successful, they would just keep adding characters. So, that again, that's the only time that [ __ ] like really went well, where it started off with a very small roster, like extremely small, but super cheap, like $20 game. It was a 20 buck game. And the 20 bucks guaranteed you the first two. You got the first two characters. Got the first two characters. You got spinal and full gore for free. You know, so the the problem is is that 2x KO follows the the same sort of idea of every other free-to-play games as a service game that has to engage the [ __ ] out of you constantly. And every other game they I mean we're seeing it happen with Fortnite right now, which is super sad that Fortnite had to lay off like a a thousand [ __ ] people because making the content for the game is too expensive, right? He's full of [ __ ] Granted, he's full of [ __ ] but that is that is expensive. Like how much [ __ ] they pump into that game and how much stuff comes out, it's not cheap. like they they they spend a lot of money to get a lot of people to show up, right? So you if you don't have a game that does that, what happens, you know, like it's tough. Um at least with like some of the other games, you had like uh you know, a full package even though it was like, oh, you know, it wasn't meant to be a full game. It had a story mode, it had an arcade mode, it had, you know, side quest modes and stuff like that. And it's it's just missing. And even avatar does Well, dude, I think we know. That's the thing as I was saying too cuz like when they showed that trailer, it has an arcade mode and a story mode and and I got I got the press release of it and they emphasized multiple times in the email it is a canon story mode. Oh wow. The story mode is canon to the franchise. Be approved by the devs obviously the creators. It is a canon story mode. I don't know HOW THE [ __ ] THAT HOW IS IT GOING TO [ __ ] COOL? BUT THAT'S GOING TO be real interesting. It is a canon story mode uh you know to to the franchise. Oh, it was approved by Mick Cannon. That's what they meant. Oh, no. What about the uh the core game? Is that Canon as well? Yes. The the the platinum one is it's a it's a between season. Yeah. Um and the reason I mean we know the answer with 2x like so why didn't that game launch with any like content, right? So they they approached it from a very fighting game enthusiast mindset where it's like the whole point of the game of a fighting game is for you to fight other people. Right. When you engage with a lot of people that play fighting games that are FGC adjacent, but not competitors, you understand that that isn't really the case. A lot of people play fighting games not just to I I I've used this term a lot. People buy these games not just to go online and beat ass, dude. Like people play these games because they like the characters. They want to do stuff. They want to eventually do things. And if there's enough cool [ __ ] in the game that gets you to bridge the gap to be like, I love this so much. I'm going to go into ranked or player matches or whatever or freak lobbies, then that's the the game did that, right? There was a there was a reason for you to make the jump. Um the problem is 2x just doesn't have anything. Like it is an online There's nothing to do in that game except get beat up by sweats. And that's from their perspective, that's where they put all their time, budget, effort, and money because it you have to give 2x a bit of credit. It was trying to do that almost like in an experimental way where it's like, "Okay, can we create a fighting game that's like, you know, War Zone? What do you do in War Zone outside of [ __ ] queuing up?" Not much, dude. What are you doing? What I mean, Fortnite has a bunch of things. That's not really a good example, but like what do you do in most of these multiplayer games? You quue. That's it. So, what do you do in Arc Raiders? You just Q. But but as I always say, when you play a fighting game, you queue up. You die in You die in 15 seconds. Yeah, that's it. You you land in a BR. You might be running around doing nothing, but you can pretend you're doing something for like 20 minutes before you get shot in the back. 2X KO is a funny game where even if you die quick, you're going to be fighting that person in like a first to three or something like that for a while. Yeah, those matches you get multiple breakers like almost a round and there's multiple rounds to win and then you have to a first a set. It's like dude, you're in there for 15 minutes already, even if you're losing. I was in a round where a guy did the breaker on me three times in one match. I couldn't [ __ ] believe it. It's crazy. I was watching 2x KO finals today and it just takes forever. It just takes forever, dude. I'm like, man, fun to watch. I I would say too and the and the problem is that like, you know, they had like the free to play but not that many characters, man. If they had like 20 odd characters, character coming out, I can't wait. You know, if they had a bunch, then at least that's more variety in the matches, the kind of matches you're playing. But with the small character roster, you're fighting Nekos and Yasuos and you know, you're just fighting the same kind of characters over and over again. If they had a 24 characters at launch, like [ __ ] at least you would see a little bit more variety, man. So, I think it was just at the point of the time like, hey guys, it's it's time. Like, give us what you got. Roster, presentation, content. 2XO had one. It was presentation and some people didn't even like it, which is great. Presentation, roster, content. They had presentation. They didn't have the roster. They didn't have the content. Do matches take forever? Hell no. They certainly No, in the previous beta, they took [ __ ] forever. I was I I would I would do a first to three with somebody in in the beta. My ass would be there for like 18 to 20 minutes. I'm like, I've been here for a long time, chat. I've been like fighting neutral with this guy forever. Like, and if you get people that are good and not just only mashing, like these matches last a long [ __ ] time. But the thing is, do you enjoy it? Like, do you enjoy you don't enjoy? Hell no. No, I was exhausted and I wasn't having much fun. That was that was the beta, dude. That was the beta. That was the beta. That was the beta for for me and took when I was winning. I am bored. Is this match over yet? So, the good news is that they got that feedback and yeah, me, Kenny, and Steve have all played it. We've all played like the latest build of the game. Um, and yeah, it's just way better. It's just way better. It's an actual like it feels like an actual game and not just something that's just trying to hold your hand everything. Um it's actually fun to engage with. There are really fun cool things with characters and stuff like however it has like a 30 to 60 minute like cuz it's a it controls differently now too. There's they added a they added a new button and there's no option like you have to have that button. So before it was a five button fighting game. It's now six. So the way you press things has changed and where your hand goes has changed. Um, it's way different. Like, it's way It's just way different. It's It's what it always should have been, you know, and it still needs refinement. It's not like done done, but it's what it always should have been. Yeah. Yeah. It's good. Good. I don't know if I care about the game anymore personally cuz Avatar was like the game I've wanted for decades at this point and it's here and it's great and I'm like, "Sure, the multi games good." I want it to be good. I want it to do well. Have you ever been interested in Marvel characters at all? Well, outside of X-Men. Yeah. I'll be real with you. Outside of X-Men, not not as much. Not so much. The demographic lens you you were you were a DC guy. Yeah. I'm I frankly because because of the '9s and because like the X-Men cartoon was fantastic. I remember the first season when it came on and everyone was into it and then it became hard to like keep up with the with the show and if you missed an episode and then the the quality kind of just like nose died and stuff, whatever. DC. I became a DC guy because of the DC AU. It's more consistent because of Batman atmosphere, Superman atmosphere, Batman Beyond, Justice League. I'm a I became kind of a DC guy. yeah, I'm more I would be more interested in that. And Marvel was like I like X-Men characters, but I didn't know as much with the other characters as much. None that the characters are bad or anything, but yeah, I just I don't have the I don't have the familiarity with them to be like, so when they announce you um who who I mean, who are some of the original? Maverick, the extremely popular X-Men character from the 90s. Maverick. Well, I Yeah, Maverick. Sure. You know who Maverick is? The most popular character and Danger. Don't get into Danger was to me was like who? But Danger's recent. So, Shatter Star. Shatter Star from the X. They put Shatter Star. He became a wild cat. If they put Shatter Star, DON'T PUT SOME BALLS. PUT SHATTER Star in the game. IF THEY PUT SHATTER STAR, where's Shatter Star? I put Wendigo. Anybody know? Dude, Chat Chatter Starstar is the guy that had like he was a weird puffy thing around his face. He had a huge [ __ ] like red-haired mullet and and ponytail. And he had a double sword. Like his sword. He was like dual wielding swords, but they had like two swords in the swords. [ __ ] 90s as [ __ ] is what he was, man. You know what, though? Um MCU made us fall in love with um Guardians of the Galaxy, so they could do it again. You don't have to be interest. We didn't know who the majority of Marvel characters were in. Yeah, it's it's fine. It's not so much that it's just like, man, I the the beta really burned a bridge for me with tokcon. And I'm like, I'm glad I wanted it to be good. I don't want to be bad. I don't want I don't want people who were looking forward to Tokcon to be disappointed. I want them to have their game. I want Toon to be the game that everyone wants. Like I want Venom. Like put And it looks like he's not probably not going to be there because the the webs slinging team has already been assembled. So yeah, not looking good for for Venom. Here here's the funny thing. I have a question for you guys because it's like fighting games have introduced us to a multitude of characters and franchises that we probably didn't know much about or knew were cool in any way. Uh, Marvel vs. Capcom. An interesting one. Like, as an example, I have never seen Blackheart ever in my life. I'm like, who the [ __ ] What is this guy? He looks like the like the devil. And it's like he's the brother of Mefisto or something, you know, like when the Johnny not Johnny Cage uh Nicholas Cage did the whole u you know, Ghost Rider movie and Blackheart was just like some guy [ __ ] everybody was losing it and I was like, "Yeah, okay." Cuz I didn't know anything about the character. I had no idea how cool he was before he became son of me. That's what it is. Mainstream or whatever. Yeah. But like Black did Black Card I remember Marvel. And I would argue like Magneto was always super popular. All the X-Men are always like super [ __ ] popular. Thanos. Um yeah, Thanos was like we knew who that was. You knew it was like you know like Yeah. But more of the gems and all that. Exactly. However, um I actually personally think that cuz this character was in a couple of episodes of the TV show, right? and not even that much of the comic at the time. Dude, I I think MVC2 helped Cable blow up into a bigger character than he ever really was, dude. Like like Cable never felt like he was that big of a deal before the year 2000. Like he was to me he looked kind of weird. Cable was like, "Oh yeah, that guy from the future." Cyclops. Yeah, the guy from the future. Like he's Cyclops kid from the future. the more the more popular um uh Cyclops son was uh quote unquote X-Men. I forgot. He was the more popular version and he was literally like Dragon Ball for um Marvel. Rob how how busted that character was, too. So um I forgot his name. Yeah, Nate Gray. Yeah, that character was nuts. And uh and to me like even as as a comparison like what characters in fighting games that you got introduced to that you didn't know about at all that you fell in love with or like their games or whatever. Dude, it's Strider. I didn't know who the [ __ ] Strider was. Like I'm like because the old games that he came from that wasn't they redesigned him completely. So I was like this is the coolest [ __ ] character ever. I'm doing whatever I can to play this guy. And when I went back and played the games I'm like why are the games nothing like it? Yeah. Like what the hell? Why are the games nothing like the way he looks? They completely revamped his ass. You know, that was for me. Jyn, the first time I ever saw Jyn, like I didn't really play some of the others. That game was like a Japanese only release mechan. I'm like, "Yo, this guy looks [ __ ] badass. He's cool." In Marvel one, I'm like, "Damn, who is this guy?" he's [ __ ] sick. Yeah, son. Not to me. Like, Sansson didn't blow up in popularity, but like a lot of these characters I still never knew. Like, where the [ __ ] did they come from? And then their references are so obscure. We knew who I was cuz Star Gladiator was a Capcom game that sucked. Cover boy that nobody likes. poster boy. I remember him on the post. I see he had a blockbuster just with a sword. I'm like, "Okay." So, yeah, it's like if if there was one from the X-Men side that I feel like even the game might have done a pretty good boost with their popularity, it was Cable because dude, who was the the popular guy that was extremely cableike, but wasn't cable? It was [ __ ] Bishop. Bishop was the guy that was around way more and like and prevalent in the show and prevalent in the comics. swapped uh uh Kitty for for Bishop as the time traveler. Oh, really? She's like in the show, Bishop goes back in time. I think I That's why we saw in the show so much. That's why you see so much more B there was so much more Bishop love. The comics it was it was Kitty and the cartoon it was Bishop and in the movie it was Wolverine because of course. So, but yeah, like Bishop got a huge glow up or a huge like just put in people's mind share because of the show. Dang. Instead of danger, they could have gave us Bishop. And so like instead of like Cable, they just gave us Bishop. Start. Don't even start, Kenny. Like it the whole everything about the X-Men team just is like I mean to to old X-Men fans, I I get it. I get it. They'll just give us an entire DLC of just X-Men characters. It'll just be X-Men 97. That's what they're going to do. It'll be like an X-Men 97 DLC season. Or it's just all the Fantastic 4. Honestly, this Yeah, this is this is no different than, you know, them like making Shima Gorath or, you know, who was a weird [ __ ] oddball ass character. Weird as [ __ ] Even Spiral was a weird kind of oddball as [ __ ] Like, you haven't seen this chick much at all. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, like, okay, so Oh, Cable became super popular because MVC, but nobody gave a [ __ ] about Spiral after. Well, it was she that cool, right? Not really. Cable was [ __ ] cool and he was easy to use. Spiral was anything but easy to use. And she she wasn't cool. She was [ __ ] weird. Like she was the female human equivalent of pretty much Schumagoras, right? Like weird limbs all over the place and [ __ ] you know? Was that the case with um God, I forget stupid big face man. Um Oh, Modok. Modok. Was that the case on? Yeah. No, I didn't on I never heard Modoc ever. Cuz literally for me before Marvel 3 never he was super like popular, right? He was Silver Age. Silver Age. Yeah. Way before our time. Yeah. He's like, "No, I'm saying 3." Like, well, was he popular? No. But like his in terms of like his overall popularity, people definitely like had never heard of him before. Marvel 3. You know, like for me it was just like I was excited for Marvel 3 and I'm like, man, maybe we'll get Blade. We'll get Blade. And they're like Shimo the [ __ ] Bobby Big Head [ __ ] Modok. And I'm like, oh that's it. I'm out, I got a question for all you guys. Had all any of you guys heard of Nova before Marvel 3? I'm like, "Wait a minute. Marvel has their own Green Lanterns." I've heard of the Nova Core. Yes. Not the Nova. Yeah. Not that there was a main dude. Yeah. I had before Marvel 3, I was like, "Who the [ __ ] is this guy?" Dick Ryder. And And then a bunch of people are like, "Oh, yeah. No, he's like like he's like a Green Lantern. He's like a space Green Lantern." And I'm like, "He's Space Cop Green Lantern." I'm like, "Oh, Dick Ryder. That makes sense." But man, never heard of that [ __ ] before before that game, dude. Heard care about a dick rider, but not Nova. Yeah, I've heard of a dick writer. Wait, so who was the Novaore in war with? Because I remember there was a war between Novacorn and something something else. I I Chat, this is this is this is your time to shine. This is the lore chat. Who were they at war with? The creed. That's what it was. It was the creed. Okay, that's what it was. And then that's what the scrolls. And I even even I knew who Super Scroll was. I didn't because of like the golden era ' 60s Marvel [ __ ] remember seeing that dude where it's like yeah he has like he had the powers of all the fantastic shifter or whatever like as a '90s kid who pretty much hovered only around X-Men and and things around that time frame and Jason I even knew that yeah that's the I know Thanos is I knew who Dormamba was kind of from like visual imag scroll I'm like is this a thing or is this just like they made a scroll like do all the fantastic no he took powers yeah so it made sense when he just was all the fantastic 4 on one character yeah Um, but I mean you you you make you make a great point of like there's a lot of times we get introduced to characters through the fighting game for sure. And that's that's totally fair. That's totally fine. Um, Danger did that already. Yeah. And I and that's not to take anything away from Tokon, but it's there is the reality of like does this character announcement get you excited? No. For roboexuals as well. No, it doesn't. people who want to like also way different. Frankly, when when these old Marvel games came out, we didn't have previews. We didn't have trailers. We didn't have buildup to it. It just the game is in the arcade one day. You ain't putting Liquid in the trash, are you? Thank you. Like, we just showed up one day to Tilt and there's an MVC2 machine and it's like, whoa. Yeah. Yeah, like for example this who in like Marvel Superheroes or X-Men Children of the Atom were were like I don't know who the [ __ ] this is. It was definitely Blackheart. We knew who Juggernaut was. We knew back everybody in X-Men we knew who that was. Even the one-off characters like Omega Red was actually Omega Red was [ __ ] popular. No, he was he was he was like he didn't show up all the time but he was like not a like a toss away. Schuma was definitely like who the [ __ ] is that? What the hell is this [ __ ] instead of of of Doc O. Like, are you serious? Yeah, exactly. Like, what the [ __ ] It was It was like It was like specifically the Japan pick, the weird [ __ ] squid. Of course, they picked a weird tentacle monster. But but yeah, like no, Silver Samurai was known. He was He was kind of Silver Samurai. THERE WAS COOL SILVER SAMURAI IN THE GAME. He was the Yeah, he was in the show all the time. Mr. Sinister was in the show all the time. He was the comparison character to uh like he's like he showed up as much as like Omega Red did, you know, like he they were they were kind of like allstar bad guys that sort of meandered around a bit in the first like I don't remember what game it was. It was MC2 or whatever he was in before and it was Silver Oh, cool. He was in it was like cool Silver Samurai's in the game. We knew who Silver Samurai. Why is he so slow? You should have made it though. Uh Silver Surfer. I think he should I still think it's [ __ ] crazy that Silver Surfer. He should have replaced um uh Iceman. I'm down. Well, I mean, I think they do different things, but they visually look similar. Big in like 1990. I remember this very specifically. Silver Surfer, I honestly think is one of the most recognizable [ __ ] Marvel characters next to like Spider-Man and Wolverine and [ __ ] He just sh surfs like it's because he's so simple. He's like a guy on a surfboard that's immediately dome dude surfing around the the universe. Yep. Yep. And like again, it's weird that that's character has never been. Anyway, what I'm trying to tell you is that all my prediction lists, it's super on every single one of them. I'm like, I cannot believe this [ __ ] has not been in a fighting game yet. I can't believe it. Marvel 1, 2, 3, all of these games. No, no [ __ ] Silver Surfer, dude. Galactus made it in, but you know, hey, even Marvel Rivals, he could surf throughout the entire match. He's not even Where the [ __ ] is Green Goblin? Yeah. So, that's a big point where it's like the nonspider associated Spider-Man uh villains really underrepresented, you know, like cuz Venom has been taking that spot for the longest time. Yeah, Venom and Carnage are your big Spider-Man, but there's no Carnage any of these games, right? That's what I'm saying. But Carnage is even like way bigger, you know? It it's I don't hear people asking for like Green Goblin or Hobgoblin or Scorpion. People ask for Doc. Yes, that's a big one. Absolutely. Do Yes. But it's like you most of the time people want Doc Hawk and maybe it's Venom Carnage. Maybe Doc Hawk. You sure? The rest of Spider-Man's rogue gallery. I don't really hear it. Scorpion. The Falcon. What? Scorpion, Tombstone, Hobogen, Green Goblin. Like we we love Yeah. Sure. We love William Defo as Green Goblin, but it's Rhino. Rhino. Yeah. Like Kenny might say Mysterio. Like dude, if we got, for example, if we got Rhino and Tokon over Juggernaut, I'll flip a table. [ __ ] LIKE, WHAT THE [ __ ] DUDE? If that's like if that's the Spider-Man villain that they chose, it's like, oh my god. Yeah, Shocker. Yeah. Like, chat, all of you need to spam Shocker right now in ALL CAPS. SHOCKER. GET BACK HERE. GET BACK HERE. You can't escape me. You know what would be a good idea? If they don't do Venom, they just do Carnage instead. Yeah, just Carnage. Yeah, just just do Carnage. That honestly be pretty. That'd be fine. I don't Weirdly enough, I don't know. I I feel like they're avoiding the whole symbio thing in in tokcon. It looks like looks like they just don't want symbiote stuff period. Maybe. Yeah. Well, Spider-Man has like a symbiote suit. Yeah, he probably I think he has like the an alt costume. It just seems like that's not their it's not their thing, you know, for for Toon. I don't know if there's any limitations. I don't think there are limitations. I just think it's like Well, it's just not something they're doing. Like they're just kind of necess Well, to be real, we haven't seen much. Like, we really haven't seen True. I'm just kind of going like we see like Savage Land and we seen like New York or whatever or Aven whatever. I'm just going I'm just kind of like going by like X-Men Mansion like just places and things they're going to like Marvel Rivals has like multiple maps unlike the symbiote home world, right? So it's just kind of like oh symbiot's kind like a part of Marvel Rivals, you know, it's like it feels like it's been it's it's in their background story or whatever. Toon it's like it just doesn't seem like it's a part of it. I see what you mean. I see what you mean. So, so yeah, to me I'm just like it just doesn't look like that's like a thing for them. I think it's interesting when you have like big fighting games or even Rivals. Like Rivals introduced a whole bunch of characters to people and [ __ ] too. Absolutely. There's a bunch of like weirdo picks in there that people have not really seen much or heard of before. Squirrel Girl. Uh, all people knew Squirrel Girl. No, no, she was she's been a meme. She was a heavily requested character from Marvel 3. I I didn't know who Squirrel Girl was until I found out about Squirrel Girl fans in Marvel 3 and I was like, who the [ __ ] [ __ ] What are you talking about? Yeah. No, that was a She beat That was a Marvel 3 deep cut. She beat Thanos. Okay. Yeah, sure. She beat Thanos. She beat Doom. She beat Doom. Sure. Whatever. [ __ ] you. Yeah. Jeff. Magic. They got very popular because of rivals just in general. Magic though. I think Magic's actually I think Magic is honestly the best. I like Magic more than Wolverine in in the latest Oaks. I like playing as her more. Calm down. Calm down. I actually did. I'll be real. Whoa. I like Wolver Wolverine is like one of the most fun characters in the game in my opinion. I think Magic is here. Wolverine look and is Wolverine. Wolverine he's Wolverine like he's not going to do that wild stuff like with Magic comparative comparatively you know let's be real M Wolverine will do cool things but like Magic she's got the portals and she could do an uppercut cancel into the portal come out of the other side and do kind of really cool stuff. Yeah. They gave her a lot of weird sauce. Yeah. Which is like, oh yeah. Like there people will play this character a multitude of different ways, which is neat. Like that's actually that feels really good. Wolverine is like he's Wolverine with an air dash. Like he's pretty he does feel different than Marvel 3 Wolverine because he does have different moves. But what do you want him to do, Max? It's Wolverine. Uh no, no, I'm good. All I'm saying is that I think magic was more fun. Oh, okay. Good. Yeah. And I'm not a magic guy. Like to me, Wolverine was was like rekindling a relationship after you've been lonely for 60 years with a lost ex or some [ __ ] Yeah. Like it was like I'm so lonely, baby. Like Wolverine coming back to a fighting game was like, "Oh, thank [ __ ] god. It's been there's been so much pain like like I was I was all about like no matter what happens, Wolverine's on every [ __ ] team." And I would put Magic ahead of him after playing. He's sitting over there like Rose, 84y old Rose or whatever. 90 something year old. Never forget. It's been 84 years. It was very long. Okay. I'm so lonely. Um, so anyway, I think Wolverine's great, but Wolverine and Magic are almost on any one of my teams. I was saying right now, Silver Surfer and Nightcrawler Need Redemption. Nightcrawler, I think, is those two characters from Marvel one in the '9s all the way up to what we have now. Nobody has put those in fighting. fullblade wielding Nightcrawler. How did we never get a Nightcrawler in a fighting game? I don't get it. I don't [ __ ] get it. The Well, don't forget the X-Men uh dimension. Sure. Okay, we're forgetting. We're forgetting. We are We are forgetting. We're forgetting. Don't forget. We're in the X-Men. And don't forget uh uh we're going to say something else that sucks. Uh Nemesis. Okay. Yeah, let's see. You see what happened there? All right. I said you was going to say something that sucks and it sucks. Being in Marvel Nemesis is worse than not being that game was badass. Okay. No, it wasn't. That game was [ __ ] sub. Stop gaslighting yourself, bro. Marvel Nemesis, chat. If you remember, you know, you know. Okay. Marvel Nemesis. That's Beast. Beast is a tough one for me because it's like his intellect is actually one of his his power. Okay. How does that work in the That's what I'm saying. That's why it's a tough one for me to to validate beast being in a fighting game because I get it. He's big punchy guy, but then we have like several other big punchy guys where that's directly their thing. You have to like give him like tools and tech and stuff and he pulls out he pulls out random things. You really got to start reaching, you know, and then and then you can start being like the thing but Hulk, you know, he throws like weird vials out of I liked them in the background with him and Wolverine. No, him and Blanca. Blanca, sorry. Him and that was cute. I thought that made me sad cuz I'm like, damn, those guys would have been pretty badass in a Mario versus Capcom game and they just got left out. No, Beast could be freaking cool, man. He can like hang out the the He pretty much is Blanca. Like, if you want to talk about like physical ability type [ __ ] he pretty much does Blanca [ __ ] Like he's But what I'm saying is that big strong guy is a thing that is definitely covered by other characters that probably would be much more preferable like Hulk or Thing or something like that, you know? I take beast over thing. Where do you think Sandman would fit in all of this? Cuz he he actually we have we have Garris. We're good. We already got our DC also. No, no, no. Freaking No, no. The Sandman Spider-Man villain. Spider-Man. I'm thinking Glacius. I think Neil G. But you know what's funny? You covered yourself because Sandman is like a prisoner, right? He's like always in jail type [ __ ] you know? Yeah, Simmons was covered. Dang, Simmons. He killed all those people to save his daughter, you know, like that that was his that was his whole plot. I I probably would, too. [ __ ] it. Murder all of them. But my daughter, the [ __ ] Uh, if you had to pick one, Steve, to be a Marvel toon, you have to pick one [ __ ] It doesn't that don't Who cares what has already been announced? Yeah, they'll put characters on the Guardians of the Galaxy team. It doesn't [ __ ] matter. There's a chance that weird X-Men could choose with the eight characters that are remaining, you had to pick one. Mhm. Who is it? Okay. So, you remember you go back, you talk about how cable became super popular because of Marvel. Yeah. I think a cable who is underutilized that could become extremely popular. if it makes it in the game, people will start to shine on to it and realize that holy [ __ ] this character is [ __ ] awesome. There's only one character that you can call that would be that epic, and that is Blue Marvel. People do not understand how insane this character [ __ ] is. They have overlooked him, and they um they he's completely underrated. The most underrated character in my personal opinion in Marvel's history is Blue Marvel. put him in the game and people will know how [ __ ] insane he is just as a character stat. Blue Marvel is insane. Superman I'm gonna judge this just based I'm gonna give you I don't know what this guy looks like. Yeah. Or girl, whatever guy. He's a guy. I'm going to give you my you know me. My straight shot raw spit ass like this is my immediate one to 10 reaction looking at the character design. Okay. And I'm going to let you pick up the uh you find the image to show me. Okay. All right. Yeah. So there you go. It's searching. You find the image to show it. You pick it and then I'm going to look at it. I'm just immediately going to give my raw ass reaction to this [ __ ] Okay. Here we go. Who Marvel is? All right. All right. And I'm going to give it a one to 10. One to 10. You're going to show the chat first. You can put up there. Don't show them my dick picss. Okay. I like I've always I've always liked this version of of him cuz this is like the most majestic variation. All right, Chad. You saw it. You saw it. No. Now, now tell Steve, is that a good image? Is that a good representation? You guys like this one? Here we go. I'm going to look at this. You seen him? Okay. Okay. Simmons, you know what the I've seen him for the first time. Okay. I'm like, "All right, I don't want to know what you said." All right. See, Steve, now 3, two, one. You're going to put this [ __ ] in front of my face. And here we go. He's like a seven. Seven. He really looks like that Magneto costume. Magneto, right? Which one? Let me see. The the the Magneto costume that's in the show where he's on trial. That one sucks. You know, it looks like that one. That looks much more, but it looks like it looks like a lowerase M down. I mean, I think I think the stripes going down need to go. Keep the keep the house of M. Thank you. I forgot the name. Yeah, the house of M. Now, he does have other variations. Yeah, give me give me go back. So, this one's actually That's fantastic. So, this one actually might have been better for you. I like that one more. You're But I love the cape. I'm a very big cape. No, I think this is even more generic. Very generic. No cape. I think the cape works with him. Uh I like Blue Marvel, but that looks good. And then that's definitely a character I've never seen before. I have never seen before. I don't like the lines going down the leg. I don't know. Something about it gets it too much like the House of M look. And he also usually wears a helmet. House of Mel. Now he just looks like [ __ ] Dr. Fate. Ah, okay. Dr. Fate is the character I was most excited about to be injustice, but it's injustice. So dry. I was like, Dr. Fate, that could be so cool. Like, WHAT DOES WHAT DOES FATE DO? [ __ ] off, [ __ ] Just throws and [ __ ] Throwing motherfer throws some gang. He just gangsides you to death. I hated Dr. Fade, dude. Yeah. This is This is kind of like Dr. Fade, right? But uh yeah, I was Dude, I thought Dr. Fate would be kind of like Herac and you know, like just doing crazy. Get my phone back. Fine. Yeah, he's very Dr. Fateish, but uh no, his powers are insane. Like and um he's Superman. He's posed like Superman, too. Superman. Like the way that they draw him is Superman. And I've always felt I mean you you have Thor and then you have um I forget this other guy. He's I will skip Thor. I'll just say if we can have a character we can drop, we don't need Thor. No, nobody did that. Yeah, we just did a Marvel. You know, who's the guy with the Mohawk? Sentry, right? So, Thor, Sentry, and then the guy who's all gold. Gladiator. That could be Gladiator. Gladiator is also has the mohawk. Uh, who is the guy in the latest um uh the latest Marvel movie with um the the misfits? Adam Warlock. Warlock. So, all those guys, they're all Superman characters. they're all of them are Superman characters, but there's no defining Superman character in the Marvel universe. In my opinion, I think Thor is a close I think that Superman's whack. Well, that's what he's the literal literally the the poster child for DC. So, I always wondered if Marvel was trying to avoid that alto together or if they just didn't really have an idea of how they wanted to present a Supermanlike character. And I think Blue Marvel is a perfect uh fit. Usually, I don't know if this is I mean I don't know what modern Marvel is, but usually Marvel had its most popularity with lower power scaled characters, The bad guys are the ones that were really overpowered. But they had some like Rogans, Rogue is situationally godlike, right? And then you get like powerful becomes a big [ __ ] problem which is which is where Marvel MCU got most of its popularity by street level normal people dealing with like super Captain Marvel is like the Superman. Exactly. And the thing is too is like they these characters had specific powers and they were they used them to be strong in like their that specific way as opposed to Superman. I have everything like he was in front of the line for all the superpowers. So that you know I love Superman but granted he's boring as [ __ ] but like Storm had to like be creative with her powers to be really strong and like all these other characters as opposed to just being like I I got everything. So Steve says uh Blue Marvel Doom already got Doom. So who do you want? It's going to be an X-Men, right? Yeah. If you had to pick one, you get one Yo video game pick. If all these characters end up being in the game, you can send us a check, chat. You know what? There's nothing. There is nothing. There's nothing. There's nothing creative for me. Someone I think someone said something once and I was like, "Yeah, that's a good pick." And I forgot what they even said. So, I'm just going back to Psylock. Okay. Fair. Psylock with pants. That's what You know what's funny? She has pants in the game already. You know what's funny? in Tokcon. All those characters, the background characters, Gambit, uh you know, Nightcrawler, Psylock, uh Iceman, they look [ __ ] cool in the background. They look they look [ __ ] awesome. Psylock has pants and Nightcrawler looks really generic. He's cuz Gambit looks normal. They look Gambit and like Rogue in some shots. They look completely like close to X-Men 97. Oh yeah. You know what? Cuz they don't look tokenized. They don't look tokconized. No. For some reason, Psylock got twisted a little bit and Nightcrawler got twisted a little bit and it was like, "Oh, that's interesting. Beast just looks like beast. Captain America's tokenized. Uh I want I'm trying to remember what someone suggested once when I was cuz I've had this question asked a lot and I'm almost like I don't know. Gambit and Psylock are just kind of like those two are just sitting in my brain. I'm like what? And Nightcrawler? Why isn't Nightcrawler playable? But um but yeah, I don't I don't Yeah, I just I think I know Kenny's. Oh yeah. So you don't even have to ask. It's played. Yeah. I mean fair it was deserved. That's It's been there since Marvel 2 where it's like I actually hate Gwenp those are the the three top what Blade is a big what the [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah. Um you know uh Silver Surfer, Blade, and Nightcrawler. Those are the three what the [ __ ] Yeah. To be real, those are Yeah. There's like how the hell like it's like almost like Mega Man not being in Marvel. Like no, like Blade came out. Shout him. Thank you. Thank you. Came out right beforeh what did you want to call it? Um Blade came out before Marvel 2. was around 989 when Blade came out. Oh, the movie. Yeah. 99. Yeah. 99. So like right or 2000 like it was. So I'm like [ __ ] you know? So maybe we can have Blade. Blade is [ __ ] boring. Somebody banned that guy. Blade is [ __ ] boring. Really? Are you okay? Vampire Hunter, bro. What the [ __ ] You sound like the studios who don't know how to make a [ __ ] story for the character. Blade one was a 98. Blade one was 98. Damn. Blade one predated the Matrix. Yeah. Holy. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. This is one of the movies that started like, "Hey, all black shit." It was It was one of the movies that also started like techno music and fighting. Like outside of Mortal [ __ ] Combat, like Mortal Kombat, dude. No. Yeah. Mortal Kombat predate all of that. Yeah, Mortal Kombat movie was 95. Yeah, that movie was a while before. 95, dude. That seems like a lot longer to us back then than it is now. Bishop is good, too. Yeah, Bishop. Bishop is also good. But yeah, and like Bishop's good. Like Steve said, like the I've always wanted in Marvel like versus Capcom. Yeah, it's easily was played Silver Surfer. Let's go with for a character who's never been in a fighting game. Let's go Bishop. For me, it' be like Bishop. I remember Bishop being the coolest [ __ ] because of the cartoon. I'm like, let's go Bishop. So, he wants Blue Marvel. I'll say Bishop or Psylock. Can I I want to say So, Bishop like absorbs your power and then sends it back to you. Yes. He he he uh it's similar to like I think it's similar to uh to to Tchala type stuff where he can like but he physically absorbs it instead of going into like the suit, right? He sends it back. That's always weird to me. I remember in the episode but he's also a tech guy, right? I remember in the episode um uh in the cartoon, right? Uh, no. Gambit and Wolverine were going at it and uh, no, no, Gambit and him were going at it and Wolverine was s was there to like, you know, babysit him and those two were about to fight and Wolverine said, "Bitch, I'm going to see you absorb these." And then he was like, "You know, never mind. I'm going chill." So, I was like, "This guy's a [ __ ] You can't do nothing." Like, Wolverine would [ __ ] your [ __ ] up and you your powers would be useless against him because it would scratch your Wolverine nowadays would have a podcast. You probably would. You probably would. Um the uh yeah, I think mine's just forever going to be Gambit, you know, but I have a lot of others that I hover around that I would be really excited, man. I would love to see a tokenized version of Omega Red. Omega Red. Yeah, dude. Tokenized Omega Red. That's what I'm saying, man. Like a token. A token. I hate the term tokenized is a good term. Tokeniz tokenized. You've already been in a Marvel game. You've already had it enough Marvel fighting game. You got to give us a character that has never been in a Marvel fighting game. That is technically Jubilee. Jubilee. I think Jubilee would be [ __ ] really cool. Just as long as she's not a [ __ ] vampire. No, no. She needs She needs to have She was an assist. She was an assist. She needs to have giant uh neon pink glasses and a huge [ __ ] yellow jumpsuit trench coat in X-Men 97 where she got her dues and she like she's you see like oh she becomes super badass. She's not even rivals either. I was really intrigued. No, dude. She's very popular. She's so [ __ ] 90s though. Yeah, that's the problem with Jubilee is that like what they would never be 90s. Change her into and [ __ ] Bread heart glasses. Yes. Yes. He was he was 90s as [ __ ] 90s bubble gum and all that [ __ ] like whatever. Yeah, whatever. Jubilee would be Jubilee would be fun. Jubilee is very fun. Especially if they really went really hard into making her arc system style. Ultron. I think I don't know, man. I think we're going to get that many robots. I like your raincoat. I think once once Danger took that spot, the cute anime girl robot. Ultron ain't coming. Dude, when I saw her win thing with like, you know, was it a danger? Face. Yeah. Feeling emotions. Is this correct? Like, so the big question we got to ask ourselves is uh who the hell is the promoter? Like what is going on there? That's a character in the comics apparently. Yeah. Like the person who doesn't do anything. The person who created her was like, "Oh, this is so awesome. They're using my creation, right?" Yeah. So, the big baddy is what now? Kind of. It's like it's like adjacent to what Mojo did in X-Men 97 where they're like there to like the Dawn King of Yeah. Yeah. Like they're a celestial level or like God level like um Okay. So, this is Champion. So, the champion is the bad guy boss, right? We've seen the I I had to look up the champion which is you're not missing much really. But yes, the the champion is referenced in the game quite a bit. I don't think he's gonna be in the roster. No. No. But like he's just a dude with like big hair and he looks early 80s as [ __ ] Oh no. Like he's very funny. He's very funny looking. Uh is that what they went with though? Like I I guess I mean when you have your your options of like I'm going to show Steve chat. Steve, if you think blue Marvel looks cool. Yeah. You'll love him. I mean there's so many options. There's Thanos, there's Null, there's Apocalypse, there's uh you know um it's all been done except for null, but maybe rival. Steve, here we go. They could have done um here Steve. Uh this I'm going to show the chat. I'm going to show the chat. You're going to see the character that you're about to fall in love with. I know you're going to love. I'm going to show the chat. Chat, you know who the champion is. All right. Simmons is going to watch this for the first time as well. Uh I'm going to show I'm going to block this. That's what I'm going to show them. I do not know what I don't know what I'm getting into. Ready? You guys are about to see who the champion is in 3 2 1. Oh no, he's a wrestler. What do you rate it, you [ __ ] Oh, this three out of 10, bro. A three or a four? Yeah. Not even a six or a seven. He look He looks like He looks like Destro from from G.I. Joe. Like dumb. I like it that he's bald with a bunch of hair. He's bald with hair. He looks like a He looks like a a dumb G.I. Joe reject. So chat, please let me know. Is he like a omega level threat? Like what? Like how is he? No, he's a giga level threat. He's more powerful than uh than Blue Yeah, he can DDT Blue Marvel. Oh, very good. Blue Marvel has a weakness. DDTs. Yeah, he's pretty a good chat. Give us give us give us a a bad guy that can be on the level of, you know, Doom and Thanos and and and uh you know, and Not Magneto. But then he got cancelled. What? What about Mag? What about Magneto? Magneto. Not Magneto. Cancel. Guy who got cancelled. Oh, you mean like you mean like a level? Yeah. Yeah. Give us like a a really badass [ __ ] that has never been in the champion. Uh, Apocalypse. Apocalypse. Yeah, that's pretty. Like Sim said, it's already been done. Has been done. You can do um You've done Apocalypse. They've done Onslaught. Crossbone. You hear that guy? You can do that. Are you just looking for like power level stuff? I don't know. I mean, that's that's what it is. I mean, you want a bad guy. It is a fighting game. You want a bad guy that is threatening in a in a fighting game? Yes. Oh, you mean who's the main bad guy going to be? Yeah, the Beyond. Yeah, cuz Magneto's already been it. Apocalypse has already been in. Cyber Akuma, Galactis. Uh, Ultron. Ultron technically was it with Ultron Sigma. Abyss, you know, original as an original character. Yeah. The Molecule Man. Thanos. Yeah. No, the Molecule Man. There you go. He's the He's the strongest character in all of Marvel. Are you going to make Molecule Man the main bad guy? [ __ ] a World Breaker Hulk. Make it a story where he just [ __ ] starts going crazy and everybody is getting into this tournament. Molecule Man. Was it something Reese? Something evil evil Hulk could The molecule man something Reese. The maker. Isn't that just the writer? The maker is literally the writer. Kang Stanley. What if it's Kang? The maker is not is the one above all is the the most powerful. One one above all is literally Stanley and um the other dude. Yeah, the one above all. But yeah, uh other than that is the molecule man. Loki's good. Maker's evil Reed Richards. Uh no. Uh his son. Make it the Franklin Richards. Yeah. Make it the sun. They're both busted as hell, but I think the sun was actually a good guy if I remember. He was a good guy. Yeah. Yeah, he was a good guy. So I don't know about that. Yeah, everyone's saying Kang. You like that's the one above all. Maybe we do. One above all. Maybe we do. Um Either way, it's fun having these conversations because you know what? Before I didn't give a [ __ ] like before, like if the game's not fun, I don't know if I really care. It's okay. But now the game's fun and I'm like, "Yeah, okay." What was the [ __ ] that merged uh uh Xavier and Onslaught? Onslaught. Xavier and Magneto. I would like to see a comeback of Onslaught cuz that character looked He's very 90sish. You see the spikes? He got [ __ ] spikes. [ __ ] spikes, dude. He looks like Shredder. So Steve loves it. He [ __ ] does. He [ __ ] loves it. Actually, that just Oh my god. I just got like I just got like a spikes, man. This lightning has just struck my brain because it's because of who owns it. because of who owns Paramount, you know, who owns Avatar. Oh, yeah. The one above Jackie. You You could You could throw Shredder as a guest character. Avatar. You could They own both. That would be smart. That that Okay, Shredder. That would be weird. But like cuz like what do you want as a guest character? I'm like, I don't want any guest characters. But it's like But if there was Shredder being just threw [ __ ] Shredder in there. Shredder being an Avatar like in season one or two as a guest character is on the same level of Spawn showing up in Invincible. And that's bad because I'm not saying it's bad. Well, actually, I'm not saying anything bad here. Actually, no. Spawn was in Invincible. So, there's there's there there's some logic behind it. But still, it's kind of like an out there sort of like pull, but it would be No, no, it would be. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying they should do it. I'm just saying like, oh, that just hit that just struck me because like people ask me, "What about a guest character?" I'm like, "Why don't you need a guest character?" I'm like, "Shredder could do it since they are both owned by the same people." So, hey, would you would you be that upset if Avatar devs if you guys get a season? I'm sure season one's already figured out, you know, and you got an extra character that people are voting on, but you get a season two. Okay. Can I just say though, I think it's kind of a weird genius thing to do a vote. Pre-order the game gives you the ability to vote on a thought it was um buy the $50 deluxe version, get a vote. I thought you had to like kickstart it or some [ __ ] They said it's just pre-order. Pre-order, right? So, and the thing is it's only on the Steam version cuz they're like wishlist PlayStation, Xbox also coming to Switch. They only say pre-order is only on Steam right now. So, I'm like, is it only for Steam pre-orders that you get a vote? Because who's going to be that crazy [ __ ] who's going to do a pre-order for every system to get five votes? They're going to pre-order it on literally everything to get Regina from Dino Crisis into Avatar. No, the question is they don't say is it multiple choice or is it anything goes? How are they going to present the vote? Dude, how many times how many how many Steam accounts could you make to manipulate that? Right. Right. Exactly. So, you have to pre-order however many times. How much do you care? Well, here's the thing, though. Uh I think they're doing it this way to avoid trolly meme, you know, uh uh uh surges, you know, a ground swell of like, you know, hey, everybody on on on my Reddit on my Instagram from Cory in the House, you know, everyone go vote for Corey in the house for for I mean, [ __ ] It was like when uh that thing happened with um Pitbull and they're like, "Hey, he's going to visit a Walmart and do a concert in one of the Walmarts and then some guy said, "Oh, let's do Walmart in Anchorage, Alaska or something like that." And he got the internet to vote for that Walmart. So, Pit Bull had to go. He went to an empty Walmart. Yeah. He basically went to like a town with like 500 people and he put the concert there and it was like it was [ __ ] dope. You cannot put things into the hands of the internet that much. Which is why I'm kind of thinking that I don't think it's going to be you just just write in a name like Smash Brothers did it. I think it's going to be we're going to give you four characters or five characters and you need to pick of these five who do you cuz we all know that would be smart. We all cuz games coming out July 2nd now. Now we know that, right? And we all know how fighting games go. That roster's chosen for for season one. The DLC is already picked. In fact, most fighting games the DLC for two years out is already picked before the game. if not 3 years out is already picked before the game comes out. Yeah. So people understand how this works. Like if a game's been in development for 3 years, um it takes three years to come out. Let's just theoretically say, two years, like you have two years left in development, you know what the entire main roster is and you know at least the first season of DLC. Within one year, you know the first season of DLC as well as possibly the second season of DLC. Like at least. And that so that you have like pretty much a year to two buffer to make that [ __ ] Like absolutely. So they they already know who all the characters are. It's just that the last one is going to get manipulated by the pre-order vote, which that character will come out maybe even over a year after the game's launch window. Yeah. So we're talking like late summer, possibly 2027, Is when that could like it's going to be okay. What character do we bump ahead from the season 2 roster to be at the end of season one instead of sure waiting till longer down the line or whatever? Sure. Because they already have the ones they they've picked, you know, like these we've already established. That's why I think it's going to be a multiple choice. They're going to give you ABC, you know, ABCD, baby E. Like here's here are five pickable characters. Phil, which one of these five? I don't think it's going to be pick anyone just anyone from doesn't make sense because some of them could already be in development and coming out first, right? Which that's that's a thing, too. So, it's interesting that way to handle, but I also think it's kind of a great way to get engagement. Yeah, I think it's a good idea and it's a great way to get pre-orders like, hey, get I read that and I was like, huh, huh. Imagine all like content creators like getting on the side of something and getting their audiences. Now, I already know where this is going and people going to be like cabbage man. I'm already kind of like he's an assist. HE'S LATE. CABBAGE MAN. I almost I almost guarantee you Cabbage Man is going to be an assist for Saka. Why not? Why not? Cuz Saka is a big goofball. He's probably He needs goofball assists, Yeah. Like for me right now, the biggest the biggest missing the the big why isn't this in the roster is Iro. And I know why that is. DLC because there's three fire benders. There's Ozai, there's Aula, there's a blue fire bender, though. Yeah, I know, right? And and she wasn't even doing lightning [ __ ] It was like mostly just blue fire, which I was like, "Okay, so they're not doing lightning." Maybe they'll do some cool thing that like that like even Invincible is doing right now where she has like a just frame on her specials. That'd be [ __ ] neat. If she does a fire move and if she presses like an attack button to add on top of it, it turns into electricity. Like she buffs it up. I would I would actually prefer a character that knows how to counter it cuz you remember in the show there were characters that actually instant redirected Yeah. that just slowly like Well, Iro was the one who learned how to redirect and he taught it to Zuko. So, I imagine that's going to be Iro like will be like a counterbased character, right? So, he could like stop that stuff. That'd be sick. If Iro does end up being like an assist of some kind. He's not one Well, Iro doesn't make I mean, he's not in Zuko's assist, so he's got to be Yeah, exactly. So, he makes no sense as an assist for uh the Fire Lord or or her. Yeah, he's got to be playable. He's coming to DLC. He has to be I already I already said it before. His level three is he sings leaves from the vine and you cry and the game turns off and both players cry and you know take a walk for unless you're Ozai and he just doesn't care cuz he's just that heartless from the vine and just start balling. Before we get started, we should go make some coffee. We're going to play Dong Dong Never Die. Um and also also uh I think we're going to make some sandwiches. Yes. So we're going to go concoct a couple of sandwiches. Just cut them into four pieces and [ __ ] and try some [ __ ] These guys have I know some of these guys have never eaten a peanut butter and pickle sandwich. Oh, thank God no. Oh, please God no. Well, okay. These guys, some of them have never eaten a peanut butter, jelly, and spicy hot Cheeto sandwich. That's good. And yeah, these have You guys hung You introduced me to that pizza like 20 or That was E3 food. Yeah. No, 20 years ago. We get TO EAT IT AGAIN, BROTHER. 20 YEARS AGO, MAX. We get to eat it again. We got some We got some things we got to go cook up. We got to get a We got to get a peanut butter and banana sandwich. I've never had that. No, I've never had it. I'm about TO KISS KENNY'S STOMACH. Don't tickle me, Max. Don't tickle ME. WE'LL BE BACK. I'M GOING TO PUT SOMETHING ON. Don't tickle me. It won't be back. Don't worry. Don't tickle me. I hope he doesn't tickle me. I turned left and I was like, this is stomach. DON'T TICKLE ME. WHAT IS THAT? You ever heard of a crop top? They're coming back. I'm bringing them back. It's just like being a tilt. I'm bringing them back. You remember tilt and kill? I sure don't. Chat, watch this. Hey chat, watch this. You pieces of [ __ ] This is This should take a while. Hold on a second. Dong Dong never doodle. No, I'm Oh, yeah. Maybe we can. I don't even know what the hell's in that video. God damn. Um, hold up. I'm gonna I'm gonna run this. This is going to be great because people are going to have no clue what the [ __ ] it is, but it'll be neat. I'm gonna and I'm going to run it from like halfway through. Yeah. Yeah. Chad, look at this [ __ ] Look at Look at Simmons conviction. Look at his conviction. Look at it. They're all children. They're all children. We'll be right back, Chad. Don't go anywhere. Hello. Hello. Hello. I need to cancel my Xbox Live. No. No. Not renew. Cancel. Hello. Hello. We didn't just speak in Spanish. Hello. Hello. Son of a squirrel. I just got service. You ghosted us, [ __ ] I don't care who you are in the world. You do that [ __ ] again, I'mma bleed you real quiet. Leave you here. Got that. Dude, are you still salty about those blindfold matches? Come on. Don't give me any of your [ __ ] Kenny. Dude, you're still salty about those blindfold matches, dude. Those matches are stupid, man. Nobody does blindfold matches. What is that crap? What's got Simmons so spooked? I don't know. Simmons ain't spooked a no man. There's something out there and it ain't no man. Blessed Rarity. over there. What the [ __ ] Is that Jason? Yo. Yo, Jason. DUDE, IT WAS JASON THE WHOLE TIME. JASON OVER HERE, BRO. THIS WE'RE COOL, MAN. YO, JASON. FIVE TIMES. Come on, dude. Come on. [ __ ] JASON. NO. RUN. YOU AIN'T GOT to tell me twice. ON YOUR FEET, SOLDIER. WE ARE…

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