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Asmongold TV| 00:44:30|May 24, 2026
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Discusses Destiny being unbanned and then immediately rebanned, with questions raised about who influenced the reversal.

Asmongold weighs in on Destiny’s Twitch ban saga, the accidental unban, the alleged influence of Hassan, and what it reveals about moderation at a giant platform.

Summary

Asmongold kicks off by recapping Destiny’s unban and rapid reban, noting how quickly Twitch’s moderation moved and how puzzling the sequence felt to fans. He then pivots to a broader discussion of who makes ban decisions at Twitch, the role of individuals like Dan Clancy, and how human error can slip into high-stakes moderation. Throughout, he and guests debate whether Destiny and Hassan have been treated consistently, pointing to past bans, appeals processes, and the perception of preferential treatment. The stream features a live breakdown of Destiny’s history on Twitch, including four-year bans, “indefinite” suspensions, and the possibility that a previous ban note affected outcomes. Asmongold also probes rumors about internal calls and whether personalities in the space influence moderation, all while acknowledging the chaotic nature of online platforms and the cruelty of online discourse. He finishes with a pragmatic takeaway: Twitch’s policy framework exists, but real-world application can appear arbitrary to creators and fans alike. Destiny’s case serves as a lens into how big platforms juggle public perception, safety policies, and high-profile personalities. These reflections are anchored by Asmongold’s own stance that Destiny likely shouldn’t have been treated as harshly in the first place, even as he concedes the complexity of the situation.

Key Takeaways

  • Destiny was unbanned on Twitch, then rebanned within minutes, highlighting the fragility and speed of moderation decisions on large platforms.
  • Twitch’s policy structure considers offense severity, repeat violations, and the presence of multiple strikes, yet real-world outcomes can still seem inconsistent.
  • Dan Clancy publicly acknowledged a human error in unbanning Destiny, emphasizing that moderation sometimes hinges on imperfect, human-driven processes.
  • Hassan’s perceived involvement in Destiny’s ban/reban narrative is a recurring talking point, illustrating how streamer rivalries color interpretations of platform governance.
  • Even proponents of Destiny acknowledge risks from past controversies, including allegations and legal matters, which complicate any consideration of a full return to Twitch.
  • New York City’s Moose (guest) and Asmongold explore the tension between wanting platform accountability and the practical limitations of internal decision-making.
  • Discussions circle back to the reality that platforms like Twitch balance safety, public relations, and creator autonomy, often in ways viewers perceive as arbitrary.

Who Is This For?

Essential viewing for Twitch creators, moderators, and fans who want insight into how ban decisions are made, why accidental unbans happen, and how platform governance interacts with major personalities in gaming and politics.

Notable Quotes

""Destiny got unbanned yesterday. And then after that, he was rebanned.""
Core event: the unban followed by an immediate rebann, which frames the rest of the discussion.
""The probability that he messaged somebody about it... it’s probably""
Speculation about Hassan or others influencing the ban decision.
""A human made an error in terms of the unbanning. It was quickly detected and corrected.""
Dan Clancy's public explanation of the unban incident.
""There are humans doing things. Humans sometimes make mistakes.""
Emphasizing the role of human error in moderation decisions.
""I don’t think he should be banned. I don’t think that there’s any reasoning that like I mean is there anything that Destiny says that’s worse than stuff that I or Hassan say?""
Asmongold discusses consistency and fairness in banning with regard to Destiny and Hassan.

Questions This Video Answers

  • Why was Destiny unbanned and then rebanned on Twitch in minutes?
  • How does Twitch determine the length of a suspension for a streamer?
  • Did Hassan influence Destiny's ban decision on Twitch, and how credible is that claim?
  • Can a platform like Twitch publicly explain specific moderation decisions for individual streamers?
  • What are the pros and cons of human moderators versus automated systems in live-stream platforms?
Twitch moderationDestiny (streamer)Dan ClancyHassanabi (Hassan)ban appealsindefinite suspensionplatform governanceonline controversystreamer ethicscontent policy
Full Transcript
So, Destiny got unbanned yesterday. Like, Destiny is a uh he's a Twitch streamer. He was a Twitch streamer. He streamed on Twitch. He was probably like I mean, let me see. Top 50 top 50 first Twitch partners. Like, I He's got to be in the top 50 first Twitch partners, right? And I know they were they released a list recently. He's got to be on the list. Well, he's not. Oh, looks like he's not. Wow. Okay. I I thought he was. Okay. Well, I guess never mind. He's on a list. Wrong list. Oh. Uhhuh. Right. And so anyway, um so Destiny got unbanned yesterday. And this kind of happened out of nowhere. I mean, it was a random like I was walking to the store and somebody messaged me. They said Destiny got unbanned. I was like, "What the [ __ ] Really?" And I I was thinking to myself like, I mean, it's about [ __ ] time, right? I mean, let's be honest, the guy's been banned for how long? And so anyway, this happened. Let me scroll all the way down and make sure I just kind of get everything caught up, right? Cuz there's been a bunch of else stuff going on. But, uh, yeah. Anyway, I was somewhere about right here. You see the Plantation Simulator game yesterday? We're going to look at Plantation Simulator. I saw like one tweet about it, but I didn't see the whole thing. Destiny ban. Let me go back and pull this up. Is Destiny like Asan Soldier Boy? If Hassan is like I mean I didn't really watch the boys so like I get that they're kind Yeah. Yeah, he is. Yeah. So anyway, uh, Destiny has been unbanned. And this is a very big surprise. I think it's a huge surprise to everybody, including Twitch, because right as soon as he got unbanned, he was rebanned. Like I was walking to the store and I was like almost at the store and somebody text me. They said, "Destiny got unbanned." I said, "Damn." All right. I said, "It's about time." And then after that afterwards what happened is that then I got back home by the time I was home and they said I checked again he was rebanned and so that's it looks like Hassan texted Goon Dan to get him rebanned. Well that's the big question right is that did Hassan make the call? Did Hassan go and like, you know, pull out his phone and just say, "Shut it down and just turn off Destiny's Twitch account to make sure that he has a monopoly over left-wing politics on the platform." Uh, I don't know. I mean, like I I the probability that he messaged somebody about it. I mean, like, I think it's probably So, so this is I mean, again, it's very odd, right? Hassan smiling moments after texting someone and Destiny being banned again. I mean, it doesn't look good. Okay. It doesn't look good that I've ever streamed or whatever it is that we would describe this as. So, I want to Let me It It's quiet. It's quiet. I apologize. Let me make sure I get it turned up. The We recognize how I can be seeing a very uh thin frame. Where is the uh Where's the [ __ ] Where's the extra one? Um, god damn it. Okay, we can't even hear it. I'm sorry. I I can't I guess I can just do this. Give me one second. Sorry. It's annoying to do, but I This is the only way I can turn it on. Than I've ever streamed or whatever it wanted to make sure that we actually brought somebody on who was a little bit more fluent in the language of streaming and Ah, you know, I mean, I mean, guys, Twitch and everything else that comes with it. So, please join me in welcoming New York City's very own Moose Di. How you doing, my man? Thank you for having me, man. Thank you for having me. chat. What's up? So that's chat right there. You know what I mean? So when you're talking to them, you got to refer them as chat, not like um ladies and gentlemen. All the politic stuff aside, you got to have that swag. So it's like chat, you know? So it's like what's going on chat? What's going on chat? You know what I mean? So that's step one. Step two. Okay. What's actually cool about you being a Twitch live streamer now is you can communicate with So, so I wanted to make sure that we actually brought somebody on who was a little bit more fluent in the language of streaming and Twitch and everything else that comes with it. Please join me in welcoming New York City's very own I mean like I I I don't I I I don't know, man. Like I don't know what h I mean like he could just be thinking about the the show he's watching, right? It could be something else. So we can't be sure about it, right? But like damn, that's kind of weird, right? I mean, what do you think the odds of that are? And so he was metagaming, I guess. So, uh it's even funnier if we assume. I know. And so anyway, uh this is banan length is is determined. Okay, so uh this is him finding out about So Destiny, just a little bit of context, how long Destiny's been banned, why Destiny was banned and everything. So Destiny got banned in 2022. And he got banned for um he had a conflict with a group of people that was trans. And also like this is like Destiny is the kind of guy that and I mean like I think he'd even probably agree with me with saying this. He he has pro he he's a very um coarse person. He he's an [ __ ] Destiny is an [ __ ] And in the process of being an [ __ ] he's made a lot of enemies on at Twitch. He is and and he's Yeah. He's abrasive. He he's confrontational. And in doing so, obviously a lot of people at Twitch don't like him. And so what happened is that I think that really what he did then I don't think Destiny should be banned. Like I will say that, you know, I've said this before many times. I don't think he should be banned. I don't think that there's any reasoning that like I mean is there anything that Destiny says that's worse than stuff that I or Hassan say? I mean not really, right? I mean like yeah, he said things that are probably bad. Maybe you should get like a, you know, like a a a 3-day suspension, a week suspension or something like that. But like really, I mean, like a 4year suspension. You think about the people that are permanently suspended. 4 years. That's a lot. And so yeah, and uh he missed his rage quit, too. Well, I'm not sure what that is. So, how'd he ever get unbanned? It seems like it was a mistake. Like, you know, somebody literally just clicked the wrong one. 2022 is peak language police. Ex. Exactly. So, Destiny got banned when woke was at its peak. When it was like you couldn't go against a group of trans people that were harassing you because if you did that, it could be reframed as you hating trans people. Like that's basically what happened to Destiny. So, uh, bro, you don't openly call for vigilante violence. And again, like I'm saying that anything that Destiny has done that's bad, Hassan has also done. So, there's no world in which like I don't want to bring it into myself, okay? Like I mean everybody's going to try and defend me. Like I I mean you know people that don't like me have negative clips of me. I I don't want to get into that. What what I'm saying is that there's nothing that Destiny has ever said or done that I think really crosses a Rubicon that Hassan hasn't already been over a dozen times. Like realistically it doesn't make sense that one of them is banned and the other one isn't banned. Either both of them should be banned or neither of them should be banned. There's never a world where one person gets banned and the other one doesn't. Right. Isn't this like releasing a person from prison? The law they no longer broke existing, but then putting him back in prison because you released the wrong guy. Well, yeah, they released the wrong guy. I think that's what it was. And so, should be banned. Hassan should also be banned. The only reason Hassan isn't banned cuz he's Mr. Clancy's favorite boy. Well, I'm not sure why Destiny or Hassan is or isn't banned, right? I'm not even really sure. But he was been he's been banned for 4 years. So him getting randomly unbanned out of nowhere is like shocking, right? Like I think a lot of people were like really surprised by this and especially with like how his problems were, right? And telegraph people into thinking that you don't want him on the platform to challenge your worldviews. Destiny does. Yeah, Destiny right now is trying to spread a false narrative that I don't want Destiny on the platform because I'm afraid that my viewpoints will be challenged. Destiny's on YouTube and I'm on YouTube. Destiny's on kick and I'm on kick. I'm doing great. So, this is a complete lie. I mean, I I don't even know why I I don't know why he even says that. It's so stupid, especially considering I've gone on record for literally years and said that he shouldn't be banned. He's like jousting with windmills making up something that didn't even happen. But at the end of the day, I I'm trying to be fair, right? I am trying to be fair. And to be fair, the reality is that yeah, I did uh you know, like uh you know, I I I I did say he was you shouldn't be banned, right? I mean, that's it. Chances Destiny was unbanned mistakenly. It seems like 100%. Right. And so, uh yeah, you're on Destiny Science Center watching you. Check this. Let me see if I can find it. Search Destiny band. Yeah. And and here's a here's an example, right? So, this is Destiny Band. Let me see if I can scroll down. Destiny. So this is me a year ago. Why did Destiny get banned from Twitch? And then to talk about this, I don't know exactly what this is. Chatter's unbanned. And so I've I've talked about him and all this twice, right? At least, right? I mean, these are two videos about Destiny. And so like the entire concept is uh is just simply not true. It's it's just a lie. And so anyway, someone lower down the mod team tried to unban, but biased higher-ups called it. I have no idea. And uh so Hassan like Destiny and Hassan are the real like Destiny and me like I I don't really have a lot against Destiny. I mean Destiny like I I dislike things that he says. I think he dislikes things that I say but like I don't have like any real personal hatred or resentment towards Destiny. Hassan and Destiny on the other hand this is a lot different because they have been at each other for like uh five years like four or five years. Like they've been against each other constantly. And so, yeah, there it is. So, let's watch this. Depressed base, which led to reduced turnout. They did. He doesn't know. Uh-oh. They did. Twitch did. That's insane. But, I mean, Twitch is in the [ __ ] pooper anyway, so who gives a [ __ ] Whatever. Let's get There's a lot more to say about this. There's a lot to say about inflation. There's a lot to say about Biden's age. There's a lot to say. Twitch was like, "We have to we have to get this uh we have to get this uh sex past who's written manifestos on being able to say the nword back on the platform, please." Hey, about doing this. I don't really see how an n-word manifesto is worse than reading a manifesto of somebody who literally killed people and your heart your your chat spamming hearts about it. Like in my opinion, I think an N-word manifesto is like magnitudes better than that because like calling somebody inward doesn't get two people killed randomly, right? And so like I don't even know why you're saying this. I mean, we want to talk about manifestos. Why is there a rule against reading manifestos? It's cuz Hassan's stream can't stop agreeing with the terrorists, right? So it's just very very odd perspective to have in my opinion. I think it's very silly, but uh yeah, four years for speech is crazy. I know that. And so uh yeah, he's a noob. Yeah, infinitely better. And so anyway, tell that to Chud. Well, I mean, again, like Chud got put in jail not for the he got put in jail for shooting somebody, right? But I don't know what the the whole, you know, like all that is. I'm not trying to get into that. But either way, I mean, like there's there's no there's no consistency with this at all. So Dan Clansancy obviously is talking about this as of no surprise. So let's hear what he has to say. Uh, hi Dan. Can you talk about how band length is determined for creators? It seems to be extremely arbitrary. Some content creators are banning. Let me turn it up a little bit. See, uh, content creators are banned indefinitely or for years, while others who engage in the same or worse behavior get a weekend vacation. That's true. Um the way in terms of how the general band length works, there are two factors. One is the severity of the offense and how often. The other factor is having repeat offenses. So in fact, sometimes if you have an offense, an offense, an offense, an offense, you eventually can lead to an indefinite suspension. Um we've adjusted a lot of the policies around that. Um uh strikes expire after a period of time. So, it takes pretty consistent um [ __ ] egregious action to lead to um uh an indefinite suspension either by a singular action or by consistently violating the community guidelines. Um and so often um the reason someone might be suspended for something longer Yeah. is because of repeated violations. We also increase the length of a suspension based upon repeat offense of the same violation. So that's why when you look at it, you might see different. All of this makes perfect sense, but that's not how it manifests. Like I mean, so his reasoning is perfect. Like he the logic with this is perfect, but the problem is that it's not applied this way. Like yes, obviously this is exactly how you should do things. This is absolutely how you should do things, but the problem you got a longer ban on your previous strike strike expired. Yeah. How do I get a week suspension over one thing that I said? Like I I don't even understand that. But then somebody else gets like, you know, I mean, how many how many one days has Hassan got, right? I mean, it's seems like [ __ ] to me, right? Seems like total [ __ ] And so I think this would immediately collapse the moment that uh you know, you ask anybody like, "Well, what about this versus this?" Right? And so I I don't really think that's it. Destiny discusses why Twitch keeps them banned. This is why Twitch is trying to keep him down. They don't want to see him shine that chain. And then they denied that appeal. So, they flushed it out, which was nice. And then I did another appeal. And my guess is that this time since that one employee isn't there, they probably when that person reset my ban appeal, they got rid of that special note on my account that it always has to go to the whatever the [ __ ] Destiny guy. And so probably the normal Twitch uh moderation like looked at the ban like, "Wow, this guy got banned four years ago. This is kind of crazy." And so they unbanned it. And then once Assan saw he started to lose his [ __ ] He texted Dan, Dan probably texted head of trust and safety and then they rebanned the account. We guess that's what happened. Yeah. So, so, so Destiny thinks that Hassan made the boss call. Hassan just basically just shut it down, you know? Like I I I don't know if I believe that, right? I I I mean that's I I mean I mean that's a lot, right? It is. It's a lot. But they did also sing Hassan Happy Birthday. He's received in my opinion obviously preferential treatment. So it's like ah you know I can see why you'd say that but then okay but so that I know my I think it would have gotten rebanned already he's gone basically assuming nobody else then I yeah because the ordinary ban process I I would survive I just don't right now because of Hassan and or Dan I guess more Hassan than Dan I don't think that it's either Hassan I I don't think that Dan is even making decisions on that level I really don't think though. Like I I think the reality is that it's probably somebody totally like it it's a person whose name we don't even know that's somewhere deep inside of the moderation or the product team. Why not? Honestly, the reason why is because Dan seems like he's disconnected and he's just off doing really big picture things and he probably doesn't give a [ __ ] about why somebody is or isn't banned. Like I like I just I don't think he really cares. Like he's the CEO of the company. Like whenever you're the CEO of the company, like you have to have this big of a perspective and like destiny is like this much, right? He's not even thinking about it probably. So that's the reality. I mean, like he's going out there. Well, I'm not even saying that, but like what I'm saying is that he's doing other stuff. Like I I think it's very fair to say that, you know, Twitch is a big company. There's a lot going on. So logically, it seems like, you know, him trying to have a personal vendetta against Destiny. I mean, I don't really see that happening, but who knows? I mean, I I really don't. So, uh, if Destiny is only that much, uh, then why would he address him? Why would he himself address the Destiny ban? Because people probably came into his chat and started spamming about it because it was an accidental unban on one of the most controversial bans on the platform that's ever happened. That at the same time was a mistake that he didn't mean to do, apparently. And that's the reason why. Like, I I think it makes a lot of sense why he would respond to it. I mean, if I was him, I would respond to it. I would be like, "Yeah, why did that happen?" Okay, well, it was an accident. That's the way it is. So, he 100% believes Dan's a bad act. I I 100% believe Dan is a bad actor. I don't know if he is or not. I have no idea. And so, oh, this is this is Dan talking about it. Here we go. Uh, I'm trying to find I wanted to find the the Yeah, there it is. Okay, please see some there have been a number of questions on um please see some there have been a number of questions on um uh the Destiny um uh yeah um a human made an error in terms of the unbanning. It was quickly detected and corrected. It's a highlight that many people don't realize there are humans doing things. Humans sometimes make mistakes should have had quickly detect. though this was not something that was intentional. We we detected it quickly and fixed it. Very sorry about any of the confusion that was driven by that. Let me just see. Um I mean I feel like that's as good of an answer as you could possibly have, right? And uh I kind of figured question point is someone does not like Destiny. Why is he still banned in a platform full of exactly what he got banned for? Did he address that at all? I think that so so here are the reasons why I think Destiny is By the way, this is the deep or about Hassan and Destiny. Let me see if I can pull this up and find it. What What does it say? I I just made my own choices and uh built my own business model, I guess, if I were to use a term like that. I paved it on my own because I thought like this is a concept that I think is cool, gaming. This is a concept that I think you can marry uh with gaming political commentary. I paved it on my own. Paved it on my own. I paved it on my own. Uh shout out shout out to Destiny, by the way. Oh. Oh, so he used to be normal. He just totally used to be normal. Wow. Damn. That's Damn. That Wow. Holy [ __ ] Okay. Um I I guess that's interesting. Oh, wow. Okay. Shout out to Destiny, by the way. Oh. Oh, yeah. I forgot to say. Yeah. Oh, you know you know of him. Okay, cool. But when I watched that video, I was like, "Oh, that's cool. So, we have like somebody in the gaming community who's actually pushing back." Hell yes. That's actually Destiny's a reason why I know about Trix as well. If Destiny was my roommate, I get him laid all the time. I uh I I was like, "All right, whatever. Well, I don't have anything." Like I I don't have anything. I have no This is the funny thing is that like they were such good friends, it seems, and then all of this like I it's it's almost like sad, you know, like they got along so well and it was just I don't even know what the hell happened. And I'm in the next 11 days. So much so that like Steven was uh DMing me on Discord and saying, "Hey, you know what? If you don't have a place to live, buddy, like, you can come stay with me. It's okay. What a good guy. Destiny is a great guy. Oh, yeah. Watch out. He gets real rowdy with that. Here for all of you guys' uh here. Fish and Destiny playing. Okay. Wait. Hey, listen. I love you. What? Um I told a friend that I would play a game with him and then I have to get ready for that SC podcast [ __ ] Listen, don't worry. You're going to get all my viewers want to watch who watch it are going to go to your stream of Okay. I mean, no, it's fine. I wanted to watch it with you, but it's cool, dude. Friendship is is just dead, I guess. Oh, Speedo McGee is your fan that gave me 200 subs so far. This is even gayer than I remember. This is gayer than I remember. Like I remember this is I thought they were just like friendly. This is like This is [ __ ] It's This is like a I thought this was like a convention. And I thought this is like the Young Turks like office Christmas party. Family party. I told you. And oh, why the I go to your family party? I don't know. What the are you going to do? Sit around and eat Chinese food by yourself while crying. People are people in the chat are like that sounds like destiny for sure. Dude, your fan base is wild, dude. All right. You want to go out tonight, dude? I kind of want to kill myself tonight. What's going on? What's What happened? Why are you going to just stiff him like that, dude? That was rude. Because they didn't want you to be. That's why. Oh, you're like standing up for me. Solidarity. It's not going to hurt my feeling, brother. No, it's fine. No. Why the would I help anyone else? You're the only person I've ever done that for. You better feel special. Oh, wow. I do, dude. I mean, I This is so gay. You're cuter. Don't worry. In a different way. Oh my god. I paved it on my own. It's act like I don't know about you guys. I think that's actually sad, isn't it? That's kind of sad to see something that they broke up. Yeah. Wow. That's This is I I don't even know. Like I mean, you probably could make a couple of videos like this with a few of my friends, but like damn, man. That's a lot. And so yeah, so all this happened. And so keep in mind, this is where we're coming from. Okay. And uh they broke back gaming. Is that what it is? And uh wow. So anyway, um after unbanned, after 4 years, 1 month, and 29 days, and then that obviously did not go as well as people thought. And um wow, that's just sad. They're clearly both much happier then. I know everybody was happier then. By the way, this is one thing people not might not realize. Everybody was happier then. Everything was better than. There were literally no problems then. Like people had disagreements if everybody could work it out. And then I'm telling you the point where everything changed was the gambling [ __ ] After the gambling [ __ ] everything turned to [ __ ] Everything started to get weird. People could not agree to disagree anymore. Everybody had to be on their soapbox. Communities began to separate. And it was a huge thing. It was it was co I think I I think too much money came into Twitch too fast and people saw how much opportunity and advantages that other people were getting and they were like well we have to go all in on this. I have to make as much money as I can. I have to be that guy. And I think the process of this is that really I mean I think people you know they alienated each other. That's that's what it was. Twitch was a bubble. Yeah, it was October 7th. Yeah, but I mean that was way later on to be fair. But anyway, so Destiny So then he got rebanned. So he has now been rebanned and and it is an indefinite suspension. Indefinite extreme extreme hateful conduct. Reason extreme hateful conduct. Now where the violation occurred, nobody knows where, but he did. And so anyway, let me go back and see if I can find this. And what is this here? Who lol? He was probably buried in his phone for 15 minutes, probably crying to his account manager. That's am uh that I was unbanned. Remember, most of the toxic ideologies online, Asmin Gold and Hassan, I guess I'm taking uh I'm taking some collateral damage here, only survive when they're allowed to exist without contact from any other challenger. There's a reason why both of them avoid each other on the same platform. and there's a reason why they don't want someone like me there. So, this is again Destiny inventing something to get mad about. Um, I've never been an advocate for Destiny to be banned. I've never said this. I've actually said the opposite multiple times over years. So, this is literally him just inventing a narrative to make himself mad. So, that being said though, um, obviously, I mean, Destiny is on YouTube. I'm on Destiny every other platform that I'm on, Destiny's on. I think I'm doing great. So, it's not even true, by the way. It's just it's just stupid. But anyway, uh you know, did somebody make the call? Why is it that he's still banned? Now, Destiny has done I've never written a manifesto defending the use of the nword, by the way. Hassan's just openly lying every single time he says this. My understanding of the n-word manifesto is that Destiny wrote a response to a lot of criticism he was getting and there was a drama between him and Triex. And this there was much more to it. I mean this is like I'm talking like this like 2018 2019. This is a really really long time ago, right? So only like five people remember this. But like Destiny did include inside of that manifesto, there was a handful of paragraphs dedicated to explaining why he said it was okay to use the n-word in private conversation. And this was a discussion point back then and people were upset about it. So the entire manifesto wasn't about the n-word. But if I remember correctly, part of the manifesto addressed him using the n-word. That was really it. Now, I'm I I think that's it. And by the way, I agree with him on this, right? I do. I think that, you know, using a word privately is not a big deal. And anybody who's mad about it is just an idiot. So, uh, wasn't there a bit of this on the podcast with you guys? Um, I don't remember actually. Yeah, I don't know. And First Amendment. Well, I mean, he's not defending whether it should be legal or not. He was defending himself doing it, right? Like whether it was a good or a bad thing. So yeah, and uh wasn't him getting banned because of the trans thing? It was. It was way later on it was something else. Why do you write a manifesto? That's so cringe. Well, it's because at the time he was receiving a lot of criticism from people and people attacked him for a number of things that he thought were unfair. And so he wrote something out at the time to address each of the different complaints. If I remember right, it was just adding fuel to the fire and it just made everything worse. But like in general, I think that's what happened, right? And manifestos were a big thing at the time. Maybe. Right. And so anyway, uh you seen new UFO files? No, I haven't. I'm just getting into all this. Right. Uh what about the Rose Underage thing? This is my opinion. I don't think Twitch is going to unban Destiny. And here's the reason why. Destiny has had so many clips there. There are people that think Destiny talked to like underage girls. There are people who think that he's like a sex pest. People who think that he has done things that are illegal of sexual nature. He's in a lawsuit with that right now. The amount of PR that Twitch would have to deal with if they unban Destiny, I think would be very high. He did. I don't know if he did. I don't want to make any accusations. I'm already in one defamation lawsuit right now. I don't need another one. So, I'm not trying to accuse anybody of anything. And fundamentally, even if I wasn't worried about being sued, I don't know what happened. Like, I have no idea. Like, I I really I I I have no idea what happened. Why am I going to try to draw a conclusion based off of something I wasn't even there for? Right? And so I I I don't know what happened, but a lot of people think that they do. A lot of people think they do. And it would be very problematic if Destiny got unbanned and then all of that stuff came forward and people are asking, well, why is Twitch allowing this person back on that said this, that, and the other thing? And ultimately, uh, you know, it would make Twitch look bad. And so I think that's the reason why they didn't do it. Uh, I think he would not come back to Twitch because of viewots. Why? I mean, he's on kick. There's plenty of viewots on kick. It doesn't even make sense. And, uh, why do those two hate each other now? I I don't even remember, honestly. Like, I I I really don't. So, uh, yeah, just more drama, etc. And, uh, did you go through with that called Violence on You? Which one? Yeah, you'd have to be more specific about that. He did debate for 16-year-olds to be legal. So 16 year olds to be look I don't want to get into all that but again like yeah that's going to look bad. I mean whether I mean the fact is like 16 years old is legal in most of the world, right? But like yeah I'm not trying to advocate for that either. It just it looks bad, right? Even if like you could say well I live in a country that lets you do that. It does look bad, right? And so anyway I don't I don't want to get into it but uh many states as well that's true. And so, uh, anyway, I had common sense when it was cancelable. Maybe you're right. So, uh, anyway, let's see here. Destiny attacks Asgold who opposes the ban. Yeah, I don't know why that's it, but you know, again, he's going to go and and mold out over it for whatever reason. Okay, so here it is. Little bit more fluent in the language of streaming. Wait, was that it? Wait, holy [ __ ] No shot. I thought this would be some subtle [ __ ] mind readading [ __ ] Wait, was that considering this city to actually be your home? Now, I've gone through a number of the things that we've been working through this week, and as you know, this is the first time that I've ever streamed or whatever it is that we would describe this as. So, I wanted to make sure that we actually brought somebody on who was a little bit more fluent in the language of streaming and with it. So, please join me, New York City's very own Moose. The next minute or two is him glowing. Glowing. How you doing, my man? for having me. Chat, what's up? So, that's chat right there. You know what I mean? So, when you're talking to them, you got to refer them as chat, not like um ladies and gent I need cocaine or something, bro. I need to go on my [ __ ] What is the opposite of humility? My ego arc. Okay, cuz I want to say I can't believe he's so [ __ ] pressed about me. What the [ __ ] How is he so like, oh my god, thank god. Thank god. The reason why is very simple. It's because Destiny poses an existential threat to Hassan's plat presence on the platform. See, Destiny and I are generally oppositional with most things, whereas Hassan and Destiny are a lot closer. And I think that the reason why is that Hassan doesn't want Destiny to come on the platform because then Destiny will cannibalize viewership from Hassan. That's I think that I mean like that would be the accusation. Like if I was going to try to make sense out of it, that's how I would try to make sense out of it. I'm not saying that's what's happening, but I mean if I was going to guess that would be the reason why still But I know why. It's because it's, bro, I don't know if [ __ ] I'm I'm psychotic. I know I'm experiencing psychosis. We're gonna go back to that World War II book, but that's something else. This is Poland right now. You understand that, right? That Twitch is Poland and we've got like the [ __ ] Molotov ribbon drop [ __ ] going on like right here where you've got Hassan on his side and as gold on the other side and America's about to enter the war like [ __ ] 5 years early. I don't know when we enter World War II. Oh, right. This is totally an ego. You're America. Okay. [ __ ] Poland being split up. But like that's like what I was like, "Oh god. Oh Jesus Christ." Uhhuh. Know man. All the politics stuff aside. There's no way it was 5 years. It's got to be shorter than that, right? You got to have that swag. Yeah. So it's like chat, you know? mean? So that's step one. Step two, what's actually cool about you being a Twitch live streamer now is you can communicate with the people and talk to the people oneon- one, which I love. So, it gives them that one-on-one connection with you and we can answer the people's questions straight off the uh bat. Well, I actually got a question for you first. When was the first time? So, is this it? Let me see if there's any more information about this, etc. Uh, the fan lost. Oh, this is this is Oh my god. Wait, so he's even he's residually mad. I mean, look, I don't give a [ __ ] Okay, whatever. Y'all are cornballs, okay? I hope you lock in in the moments that matter at the end of the day. I can I can take it. Who gives a [ __ ] But yeah, I don't I don't even need [ __ ] uh Sex Pestiny's community up my ass all the [ __ ] time. I got these guys who have like probably come out of my community. Not just AOC. They're claiming Chris Rab is pro Israel. Yeah, I know. Nothing pisses me off more and I shouldn't even be openly admitting this. We know. Go ahead. But nothing [ __ ] Let's reveal another insecurity. Pisses me off more than when people are just like, "Oh, dude, this guy's a [ __ ] libtard. Oh my god, he's just like, yeah." No, this is what it is. This is what it is. He He It's a bait. I eat the bait, hook, line, and sinker. And then immediately this guy's like, "See, I [ __ ] got you, dude. I'm sorry, but if you think this dude is is, you know, doing tireless advocacy, doing the work, Okay. Go listen to him try to [ __ ] defend his positions on a sex pest Zionist broadcast. Okay, I didn't want to bring this up, but buddy, let me tell you, okay, you didn't do a great job. You got [ __ ] owned by an Israel dick pedophile. How do you think that How do you think that'll look for the cause? Your desperation to [ __ ] clout chase caused you to get literally owned by a moronic Wikipedia article summarizing Petelic Zionist. Oh my god, he's so mad. What is going on? He's so mad. Yeah. Wow. That's crazy. Oh my god. Being liftard hurts him because he knows it's true. I don't know, man. Why is he calling him a pedto? I mean, I look, I I don't want to get involved in that, that, in my opinion, making accusations like that, that's really serious. That's like the worst thing you can say about somebody and it should be resolved in a court of law. Okay. I don't want to get involved with that. Uh, I don't know that calls everybody that. Well, I have no idea. Streamers cannot contact him directly. What is this? So, somebody says, "Is it true that certain streamers can contact you directly to request streamers that are and have been banned to stay banned despite the platform's current mindset on bans?" Absolutely not. I can confirm this. When I got banned before, this was like two years ago, I messaged Dan. I'm like, "Dan, can you get me unbanned?" He's like, "I don't know." He's like, "You got banned? That sucks." That was it. Ci um nobody can contact me to express their views on whether or not someone should remain banned or not. Um it is the fact that um at times people So you guys do a direct line with Dan? Of course I do. Yeah. I mean of of course. Yeah. I've I've spoken to Dan multiple times. Sure. I mean I'm in Discords or something like that that he's in. doesn't mean I like I I'm I'm talking to him regularly. But yeah, if I if I want to contact him, I I can contact him. Sure, because we've interacted with him. I've interacted with him whenever I was with OTK and everything. So, I have that contact, right? I do. But, I mean, I I wouldn't of course that that doesn't mean that I can use that and get myself unbanned. Yeah, sure. It's very me um through various channels if they feel they have been incorrect. And and by the way, just just for clarification, Dan has been nothing but positive towards me. I've never had any problems with Dan at all. There are things and issues that I think the website has that I wish he would fix, but I don't dislike I like Dan. I do actually. Like I just wish he would do a few things differently. Banned. And I always try to take the time to follow up to see if for some reason we made a mistake or to help them understand when they can apply to be um uh readmitted. We have a formal process of application to um uh for indefinite bands because they're indefinite and sometimes people don't understand the timeline and so I do try to help and these are almost always um they tell me their story and I work to with the team but the team in the end makes that decision. I do not make that decision. Um, it's just putting a spotlight to try and and then what I do is work on the team to make sure that our appeal system works so that if people are incorrectly banned, even if they banned you wrongfully. No, I I never messaged him recently. Um, cuz I I don't want to. Here's the reason why. It's because I know he probably gets people messaging him all the time, you know, trying to ask him for favors and [ __ ] And I think that's really annoying. Like I've been in a position where like you have authority on something and you constantly have people trying to get your ear and like get something out of you or something like that and I know how [ __ ] annoying it is. So I just I I didn't want I didn't want to contribute to that annoying behavior. I I didn't want to annoy him with it. It's what is it? A [ __ ] weak week gives a [ __ ] right? It's not a big deal. Let's see. So that's about it, right? And it's war in peace. You don't have so many favors you asked for. I mean, I don't really ask for favors ever really, but uh let me go back. I'll see if there's anything more about this. Oh, is this it? A human made an error in terms of the not have authority over the team. It's not that he doesn't have authority over the team. It's that he wants to delegate the responsibility and not have people like don't you understand that delegation or sorry that that authority is responsibility? like he doesn't want to be responsible for dealing with this. Like he can't he can't think about 50 different things. So if you have people messaging you constantly about every single in andout of the product, then you're going to have a lot of issues. It it's really simple. Literally, no one believes he does it on banned streamers. He does he likes I I don't know. The thing is that I don't know whether that's happening, right? I have no idea, but like I don't have any evidence of that happening. I'll saw the end. banning it was quickly detected and Detected by what? Somebody else. It's a highlight that many people realize are humans doing things. Humans sometimes make mistakes. Luckily, we were able to quickly detect this. So, this was not something that was intentional. We we detected it like Chernobyl, right? Fixed it. Yeah. I like how what they're talking about like I'm a [ __ ] virus. Like I'm Agent Smith. It's like we were able to detect the anomaly and just quashed it immediately. Very sorry about any of the confusion that was driven by that. Let me just see. Um Jesus, I'm like the [ __ ] most persecuted man on the planet. What the [ __ ] They have What do you do? A special Destiny sensor at least. Yeah, it's called Hassan [ __ ] DMing. what was this? But I'm not going to answer questions about individual streamers um and their status. Okay. In general, we do not talk about any specific streamers, any specific decisions whether it's a ban or not a ban or is that true? Am I making this up or I thought when Dan Clansancy came back, I thought one of the things that he did that was so new was he talked specifically about like Sneo and specifically about Aiden Ross and specifically about Did am I making that up? I thought he was like he probably did and it probably caused a bunch of problems. So, he learned why they didn't do it previously and he stopped doing it. That's probably what happened. But I mean, realistically specifically talking dude I can't believe even Hassanto you can't you can't mention Destiny. Don't bring up the name. Don't mention him. Don't mention him. Just don't bring his name up. I'm literally [ __ ] Voldemort to these people. Holy [ __ ] Let me see if there's any more about this. I think that's pretty much uh about it, right? I mean, I'll see if he said anything else on his uh on his stream, but I feel like that's been or on on his Twitter. That's about it. Why is he just trying to sue Twitch like Doc did? Because there's nothing he did that was again like there's nothing about that. Doesn't take a genius to figure out what happened here. Uh-oh. There the Destiny um that's me thing. Um a human made an moonlight. It was uhoh. Somebody getting fired. Oh, this is Oh my god. Do you know what we're watching right now? Pokemon. We filmed a P word with h word. Do you remember when they released that statement about how like they're not going to show the Hassan? Yeah. Hassan. IT IS TOO. YEAH. TRUE. TRUE. DO YOU THINK HASSAN TEXT TODAY HIGHER UP? The only two people Hassan would ever communicate with are Dan Clansancy directly or with his if he has an account manager. My guess is he either ran to Clancy or his account manager and cried is my guess. He was pretty distraught for for 10 or 15 minutes on his phone, but then he stopped and he looked up and he was fine and then he commanded him. I know the M team is super pro Hassan, but is Clancy personally? Well, h I don't know. You did wish him happy birthday. Happy birthday to you. What the happy birthday to you, bro. We're never beating the Hassan runs Twitch allegations after this. He was right. So, uh, yeah, there you go. And let me see if I can find it. And, uh, okay, we already looked at this one. I think that's about it. Was unbanned from Twitch. She was rebanned 15 minutes later. I mean, RIP 6 months. We'll try it again. I mean, who the [ __ ] knows? Uh yeah, I think that's pretty much minutes before he realized. So yeah, there it is. Um I I guess like I I thought that was interesting, right? I mean, as somebody who's always kept up with all this stuff and everything else. Uh you know, it's kind of funny, but uh yeah, we're never being accusations. I know. And uh reject the commie takeover. I don't think the destiny is a commie. I'm pretty sure he's not. But overall, I feel like this isn't that big of a surprise to anyone. I think people could have easily predicted this is what was going to happen, especially considering, you know, how many people dislike Destiny and hate him. So, uh, that's about it. I mean, I really think that's it's just that simple. What happened? I'm late. Destiny was unbanned and then rebanned immediately afterwards. And people think that it's because Hassan made the call to keep him banned. Uh, I don't know if that's really true, but you know, it seems like it it it sure seems like it makes sense,

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